Excellent video. I’m half way through the job but your video is making sure I don’t make any mistakes.

Excellent Video! Many thanks for taking time to record and share with us.

Many thanks your video is first class thank you for taking the time to show people how it's done thanks again Tony😊

i would not say that job was the hardest i ever seen and apart from getting the timing spot on the way you done it looks good if i do one i will take the water pump wheel of first thanks for the video great stuff

Great video and now subscribed. Keep up the good work. 👍

Interesting video, and I would have thought a great thing to show your clients so they can understand the amount of time, work and knowledge that are required to get their vehicle on the road.

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

It's not hard, if you know what you're doing, but it's crap. You can't charge what you should for doing it. No one wants to pay these days

Thoroughly enjoyed that Mel, used to rebuild diesel engines in Liverpool and go all over the country and Europe repairing and overhauling... I got out the game when I split up with the missus and now own a vivaro for my own little business now that I've seen how you did that I will have no questions now when I do mine... My van is a 57 plate 2.0 has covered 184000 currently... Same engine and box I bought from a family member wit 94000 on clock I service it every 4 to 5 months oil and filters wise and it never skips a beat... Still on original turbo too! Never gets abused daily commute from Liverpool into north Wales and back daily... Served me very well so far mate I can't complain. Keep up the content mate very helpful indeed. 👍

@Maarzehh

22 күн бұрын

Fancy doing mine on my 1.6 I’m in Liverpool 😅

Great video. Appreciate your input for us part time mechanics.

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting 😊👍

@relaxnheal8640

4 ай бұрын

Hi is this something that needs done or would you hear it I just bought a high mileage one and was told the chain was done but only have his word silly I know or is there a way I could check even thanks

Bravo , beau travail.👍 Merci pour la vidéo. 👍👍👍👍

great video thanks for sharing your hard work

great video excellent detail thank you for sharing your hard work

Remove the 2 13mm headed bolts on the slam panel piece where the washer bottle neck is held on and them pop the headlight out makes the access 100 times better much easier for setting the timing tools for locking the cam gears

Great video a little bit more info about checking it was fit correctly ,but probably will found out soon is enough or no. Also if you have chance to create video how to replace seams valve for the some model vivaro it will be great.

Great job 👏👏👏👏

Браво, чудесно свършена работа!

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Благодаря за гледането и коментара

Great video very informative, think my chain may be excessively worn as getting alot of noise from that area and oil just running out. 350,000 miles

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Wow 350k, this just shows that the more you drive a vehicle the longer they last, the van in this video was less than 70k! Thanks for watching and commenting.

Great Video !! Chains definitely stretch

The gold links on chain are for timing marks

Great video. Just done my m9t 2.3 Renault master which is a very similar job, my new chain sounds just as bad as my old one 😩

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and sorry to hear that you're still having issues, not a nice job to do twice 🥹😔

@iaino45

Жыл бұрын

Did you resolve your issue? I'm having similar troubles. Might it be oil pump chain or maybe dual mass flywheel?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

@@iaino45 sadly I can't confirm your issues from afar, speak to your local friendly mechanic. Thanks for watching 👍🙂

Nice video I have to say that the lack of timing marks on most engines these days is awful.

@barmotorworx

10 ай бұрын

There's a proper locking kit for these engines. Timing marks would be useless as the exhaust cam pulley is floating. Needs to be timed up with the correct tool.

@stephenpghopkin

3 ай бұрын

There was a timing mark on the top pulley but it was installed in the wrong position, a good quality chain kit will normally have marked links as well. As mentioned on other comments there is a locking pin for the crankshaft and a locking tool for the top pulleys!

I've done a couple of M9R chains Mel but always used cam locking tool obviously don't need to then

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, we always use timing tools but there wasn't a tool listing for this job, just showed how to line up the marks, very unusual but it worked and it's still driving without an issue 👍😊

Hi Mel what make is the impact wrench that removed the crank bolt thanks Tony

Can't believe its only 66k. Mine is on 160k with no issues. The timing chain is inherently noisy at times on start up. Mine has done it from 55 miles delivery mileage on the clock. It is intermittent, and goes after.4 or 5 seconds of starting. It seems to be a characteristic of this engine.

Hi, this is a great guide for the job. I'm doing a chain replacement on a 175k Nissan Xtrail that broke its chain at 70mph and would be interested in how the crank /cams can be re-timed if no marks are present on the sprockets and the chain is off. Fingers crossed no valves are damaged - the cams/valve springs are not easy to view on this engine without a load of extra top end strip down.

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Dave, sadly on this engine I didn't have any tech data for locking tools, hence the painted marks. At 70mph you would have almost certainly broke every cam rocker. I would be astonished it there was no engine damage, you may be lucky! I would remove the injectors and a carry out a cylinder leak test for bent valves. If they're bent, engine out, this is the easiest way to remove the head, not a driveway job! Good luck and fingers crossed. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂🤞

@statup2.0

6 ай бұрын

ive done an xtrail and was a nightmare, ended up taking the engine out

@user-bs9wd7cj8q

3 ай бұрын

Which engine is it ? Old 2.2 diesel or the 2.0 renault one ?

Is that the 1.6diesel engine that you did this video on?

مرحبا هل اذا كان خطأ في سنتر التايم كيس له دخل بكهرباء الانجكتر بمعنى هل تقوم لوحة التحكم الالكترونية بقطع الكهرباء عن الانجكتر ..❤

hi, thanks for sharing your wisdom, one question, what kind of silicone would you recommend for the timing cover gasket? any brand or reference to be preferred Thank you

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for the late reply, I use plumbaflue silicone, handles heat up to 300c never had an issue using it

Really good video, I liked the explanation of there not being a "stretched chain" and instead the links wear out giving the impression that it's stretched. The camshaft timing confused me though, on another video there seems to be markings on the sprockets, some even have one or more gold links on the chain which you then have to align up with the top and bottom sprockets. Whereas this relied on good old tipex, be fluffed if that rubbed off 😂 I'm glad you shown how to time both the top and bottom without the camshaft locking tool, unless you get one imported there's none in the UK I can find. Any reason you decided against the crankshaft/flywheel locking pin to keep the bottom in time? Also, with the gasket sealent I tend to find a lot of people stating you should tighten bolts just a tad and leave for around 24 hours for the sealent to fully dry and then Nip them upto torque specs, I was going to do that myself as the R9M is notorious for leaking on the front cover. Last but not least, was it not worth replacing the oil pump chain?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, unusually there were no timing tools recommended in my technical data for this engine, I do keep a lot of timing tools but I only needed one, Tipex! The pump chain didn't seem too bad, I guess only time will tell. I siliconed both faces saving me 24 hours, every mechanic will work in their own way and will have their own tricks and tips for repairing different jobs. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 👍😊

@gunnermike76

Жыл бұрын

unfortunateley on that engine in the Video it's one of the recent R9M engines which doesn't have an oil pump cover any more, it's the whole sump that needs taking off to remove the oil pump and therefore change the pump chain = means removing the fxxxxxg gearbox ! :o My R9M engine is quite old, maybe yours too, we have a small oil pan you can easily remove and take out pump and then the chain, the chain kit only costs around 30 quid too (~25 euros) so yes I strongly recommend to change both. Also gives the sump a good inspection :) I changed my oil pump at the same time which was a bit of a waste of time as the old one didn't have much wrong with it, I thought it was the cause of strange noise sometimes, it just seems when the oil is very hot and I start the engine the tensionner drains itself so makes a big chain rattle for 2 secs. This was happening all the time before changing the chain, but now just occasionnaly.

Great video! Any reason not to change the lower chain that goes into the sump? Does it not wear out at all? Cheers!

@melsmotors

20 күн бұрын

It can wear for sure but this van had done 66k and it wasn't part of the quote!

@gameguru3112

20 күн бұрын

@@melsmotors Ah, thought so! Shame you didn't get the service on that too as they may as well change it while that far in. Good educational video though once again!

Just finished watching.. great video..just wondering Mel, you said you do a few of these...how many kilometres until they need replacing? I have a 2017 Renault trafic just ticked over 90,000 klms .... cheers Simon from 🇦🇺

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Simon, this particular vehicle had around 60k miles on it, about 90000km, you'd only change it if it's noisy, you will usually hear a loud rattle from start up, now that noise may or may not quieten down. Your mechanic should be able to tell just by listening to it. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂👍

You need the locking tool for the cams.m to be perfect. The crank can be judged by eye if not but the kit it worth using. Can be done in 3 hours. I do loads. Good video though

@sara78130

3 ай бұрын

Mark on chain too

Really good, informative video. What was the mileage of the van, there seems to be so much conflicting information as to when the chains need replacement.?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Lawrence, the mileage on this van was around 65k miles. You replace the chain when it's noisy, there is no interval usually, some manufacturers have recommended intervals and there's further information within the dealer network as they have recommendations through their TSB (technical support bulletins) BMW's 125-150k miles, Ford 1.8D 125k miles. This isn't information you could readily get. Most of the info you find on Google and like are out of date and recommendations change frequently. Most reputable garages subscribe to up to date technical data, we have subscriptions inside and outside of the dealer network. We spend £1000's per year on tech data, diagnostic updates and diagnostic tools, also on technical training so that we don't get left behind. Thank for your comment and thanks for watching 😊👍

@lawrencecrowe1214

Жыл бұрын

@@melsmotors Thanks for the information. Mine has done 115k with no sign of a chain replacement from the previous company owner. I'll have to keep an ear on it!

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencecrowe1214 theres no recommendation, we've got vans on 180k with no issues and I've seen ones 3 months old go bang. Every vehicle is it's own story

@lawrencecrowe1214

Жыл бұрын

@@georgecroney6168 Thanks. I have had mine done now. At 115k the chain still had plenty of life in it but I'm glad I got it changed.

Any idea how much is cost to let chain replace?

Good vid, do you have a recommendation on mileage for changing these? Thanks

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Just when they get noisy, this one was about 60k miles. Thanks for watching

fantastic video, i guess its a two day job for a mechanic. really insightful video, thanks for uploading it.

@melsmotors

2 ай бұрын

It's around 6 to 8 hours work 👍🙂

Hello thank you for this video, can you give me the tightening torques for the camshaft pinion thank you

@melsmotors

8 ай бұрын

Hi thanks for watching but I don't give any torque settings in any of my videos as all vehicles are different, and all have different torque settings. You'll need to find out the correct settings for your car 👍

Great video thanks. I'm using it to check the timing on my Nissan X-Trail T31. Can I ask how you removed the waterpump pulley? I just had a look at mine and couldn't see a way to lock it to crack the bolts loose. Thanks.

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

You usually loosen the bolts with the alternator belt still on, this way you're working against the compression of the engine without having to hold the pulley! Hope this helps 🙂👍

@StevenSugref

3 ай бұрын

@melsmotors Thanks for the quick reply! I've already taken the belt off, I'll try holding it with an oil filter removal tool and see if that works :)

A timing tool should of been used for cams. Will find that it will be out slightly and will get worse

Great video and great explanations. I think it was a hard work spending probably 5 hours on it. Really nice video! Aldo it looks good I'm confused why you did not used a chain locking kit for installing the new chain ? Very complicated and handy job and there's a high chance of damaging the whole timing without it. I noticed that the new camshaft sprocket wasn't lined up with that mark (the little camshaft sprocket hole should be at 12 o'clock and also use a permanent liner paint for marking it, so that the guys that will change that in the future should have a pro and easier job). The new chain (if it's OEM) has two special links (coloured kinda brown) that should be on top (12'o clock) on that camshaft sprocket and one special link (also brownish) so that link goes under the crankshaft sprocket at 6 o'clock. Are you guys upset with the Torque wrench? Haven't seen one bolt tightened while using it. (or mention the torque for special bolts)

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your lengthy message. My videos are for entertainment only and not a guide for repair, I don't want to be liable for your mistakes, I never mention torque settings in my videos as they differ from vehicle to vehicle and I also don't waste time videoing me torquing up bolts as to appease people. There was also no data available for locking pins as shown in the video. Thanks again for watching and I look forward to watching some of your accurate videos. 🙂👍

@gatisgraustins

9 ай бұрын

Even if you use chain locking kit, which actually locks only crankshaft and camshafts, you will need to install the camshaft chain sprocket yourself anyway, as you said hole to 12 o'clock, but there is no way to make sure it is exactly there.

What sort of damage would a crank sprocket with a handful of teeth do? Broken rockers? Also how do a set the exhaust cam sprocket ? should the renault symbol on the exhaust sprocket be at 12 oclock when the inlet cam.mark is at 12 oclock?

@melsmotors

9 ай бұрын

Hi, if you have timing chain failure then there isn't much I can say in a paragraph that can help you buddy. You'll need a professional to look at it.

Timing tools for this are MOT 1969 and MOT 1970. They must be used. Cam timing is out on this engine. Slot in the exhaust cam should be horizontal.

@JJ-jc8yv

Жыл бұрын

What brand timing tool would you recommend? I have oil leak from timing cover and my traffic 2008 is on 130k miles without service history. Many mobile pros has rely long booking list and mine has quite bad oil leak so doing research on how to do chain replacement but finding timing tools are used even by mobile pros on these engines to time it then turn twice and see if the timing tool fits perfectly to confirm good timing. People feedback about lower mpg after timing done ( obviously right way ).

@richards4456

Жыл бұрын

@@JJ-jc8yv I used an eBay kit on my 2.3 master which is the same tools as the 2.0 dci in your van. Different tools to the 1.6 in this video that I’ve listed above. The Renault workshop manual doesn’t actually say to turn the engine over and recheck timing. It is a good practice, however. Can only see lower mpg being from not using tools. Using the tools correctly and following the correct procedure, the timing cannot be wrong.

@JJ-jc8yv

Жыл бұрын

@richards4456 I'm in same mind about mpg consumption, need timing tool to make sure it's 100% correct. I thought one tool does m9r, m9t and r9m engines but you have mentioned as 1.6 is different . I seen timing tools starting from as little as £35 quid on bebay but obviously not branded what's your thoughts on not branded tools. In past non branded tools served me well if taking care of. Sealey timing kit looks same but cost about £135 instead ;) Laser kit isn't cheap too.

Does it need to be done if you’re changing the oil every year or are these prone to stretching?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi, this engine was noisy, it was rattling, I couldn't get the noise on camera as diesel engine are so noisy by themselves. ONLY change the chain if it's noisy. Chains don't stretch as shown in the video, they wear out giving the illusion of stretching. Thanks for watching and commenting. 🙂👍

when you timed the engine up the top sprocket had a hole marked with tipex at almost 12oclock , when you fitted chain and checked marks the hole in sprocket was at 4oclock ish ?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Tam, did you hear the engine run at the end of the video? Then the timing was right. My videos are not tutorials but for entertainment, please don't copy what I do, it took me 32 years to get where I am, 20 minute videos won't make anyone an expert in timing chain replacement. Thanks for watching and commenting 😊😊

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

It's impossible to get wrong. The exhaust and intake cam sprockets are geared together and they can't be out because he never touched the gears. They don't even recommend a cam locking tool for this engine as it would be completely pointless, for this reason. I didn't see a single thing wrong with what he did and I work on a fleet of these horrible tin can vans. Brilliant for the price you pay for them but far from brilliant by any other metric.

I have 250 k with my Laguna 3 2.0 dci M9R engine without any noise, bought new and oil changes performed at 10-12k and only original filters, I want to specify that I have not changed anything on the engine, not even the accessory kit and the water pump.

@stevenmckinlay4478

2 ай бұрын

My engine sounds like shit. And I've just done head gasket and new chain, tensioner etc. Now sounds like garbage

@ane_8186

10 күн бұрын

i have same engine im my nissan qashqai from 2009., 150 hp, 280k, without any noise. never changed anything, only oil every 20k. should i change chain or wait for noise??

@stevenmckinlay4478

10 күн бұрын

Wait for noise. I would. Imagine but 200k + then don't you think thing may start to wear out. Preventative maintenence.

Evening great video. Would you know if this engine is fitted in the Merc Vito w447? I have read its the same engine?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Jaz, possibly the same engine as Mercedes seem to be using a lot of Renault engines in their A and B class cars including the small van that they make. Thanks for watching 👍🙂

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

Check what's written on the timing cover

@JJ-jc8yv

Жыл бұрын

Search, Google search says w447 uesd 1.6 diesels which are same as this.

Good job how long does it take for a mechanic to replace the timing chain as I’m getting mine done Monday week

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi Shane, the book time for this job is 6.7 hours, that doesn't take into account oil and filter change and cleaning the old silicone sealant. This job was charged out at 7.5 hours plus parts. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching 👍🙂

@shaneh5568

Жыл бұрын

@@melsmotors thanks for reply

Benefit of timing chains though is that they don't need replacing as often as timing belts and chains rarely snap unlike belts.

@melsmotors

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, but you are seriously misinformed!

good video. Just a extra bit of advice though. Always turn the engine a least 2 revolutions by hand before starting it. that way you will detect any valve to piston contact in case you've made a mistake. otherwise just using the key will bend valves.

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

He did

I have a 2015 renault master 2.3 dci 136. I need to change the timing chain. Please advice, is it the same design and work steps as in your video?

@melsmotors

11 ай бұрын

Hi, it will be different as it's a different engine all together. Check your tech data or speak to your local garage!

@vulpoiuraul6729

11 ай бұрын

@@melsmotors i repair my own vans. I have transit, crafter and this master, i did the timing and all on the other ones with no issues but till now i simply couldnt find any tech data/info on this engine model

Heya, I’ve got a 2018 vivaro and I think my van has the same issue. Nearly at 100k miles. Definitely a rattle on idle but goes when you pick the revs up. My question is how much does it cost to do that work? Vauxhall won’t do the work on my van as they say it’s not necessary as the chain lasts a life time!

@melsmotors

5 ай бұрын

Hi, chains don't last a lifetime! They just don't want to do it! This van was a late 2016 with around 70k miles. It's about 8 hours work, multiply that with a garages labour rate and about £300 or so in parts. Hope this helps 🙂

Can you change the crankshaft seal without removing the front cover?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

I believe you can

My Vauxhall main dealer told me they never need replacing 😮 i got vauxhall vivaro 2016 and 100k on clock

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

Did you watch the whole video? They definitely do wear out! After about 3 to 4 years of servicing the dealers don't see them again, most van drivers go elsewhere after the warranty period is over! 👍🙂

Hi great video. My timing chain was replaced. It is leaking a small bit if oil through the bolts on the engine mountain. Can you seal them without having to remove the timing chain cover?

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

You should be able to!

@colindouglas1354

3 ай бұрын

Would you take out bolts and seal round them?

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

@@colindouglas1354 yes and silicone the engine mount as well, this is what I would do 👍

@colindouglas1354

3 ай бұрын

Cheers. Thanks for the reply 👍

Hello, could you please send me a manual showing the necessary steps to change the timing chain on the 1.6 dCi engine? Thank you very much.

@melsmotors

10 ай бұрын

Sadly no, Our manuals are all on subscription with login details. Unfortunately I won't be sharing those! 👍

Did the engine run tidy after? The exhaust cam looked miles out?

@melsmotors

6 ай бұрын

Yes it did and it's been back since for regular servicing

All that Silicone ? Does it not squash inwards and bits eventually brake off and it blocks an oil hole and theres your crank or a cylinder gone? Im super careful with excess silicone and usually the outer Edge . Great video thank you

@melsmotors

4 ай бұрын

No different to factory silicone! You open up most engines and there's silicone over spill. Most sumps are now bonded on and when you remove them there's always silicone over spill. It usually stays where it sets. 👍

@208d

4 ай бұрын

Ok good to know ill take note of that stuff your using , thank you, im going to look at a vivaro tomorrow 180k, ive always had older Vw's im wondering am i mad and these are soft ?

@melsmotors

4 ай бұрын

@@208d TBF I wouldn't put my hand in my pocket and spend a penny on a German vehicle, I make a small fortune out of crappy German cars! Mercs, BM's Bentley's, Especially Audi's and VW's, the workshop's full of them. I have a 4 year old mercedes sprinter in the workshop for a failed driveshaft, I've had it in for almost 2 months, another month to go until I get one from Mercedes! 3 month back order for a poorly built drive shaft! No one else can get it either! 🤔

@208d

4 ай бұрын

@@melsmotors I know id hate to be working on the newer stuff , its such rubbish, people think buying new will solve any headaches its a joke really, my neighbor has a crafter 3 yr old 160 km,he bought it brand new, rear crank seal leaking , oil pressure sensor gone and now its using water, dealer doesn't know whats wrong hes putting half a litre of water into it after 200km. As for main dealers half of them haven't a clue .

Hi, great job,what was the mileage on this van ? Thanks

@melsmotors

10 ай бұрын

I think it was around 66k miles or so!

could a worn timing chain cause my RPM needle to slightly go up and down at idle, and car vibrates at higher speeds, what a cool video, thanks so much.

@melsmotors

4 ай бұрын

Not normally no! 👍

@janpalmer3025

3 ай бұрын

Thanks

I changed the timing chain on my 1.6 dci on Megane 2014 at 150k km because it was rattling during cold starts. However, the new chain also rattles, and at times, I even need to turn off the engine and restart it to eliminate the rattling sound. Have you encountered a similar case before? Should I consider changing the oil pump as well?

@melsmotors

5 ай бұрын

Hi, changing an oil pump is a bit drastic! You can't just change something as expensive and as reliable as an oil pump! Don't get me wrong, pumps can pack up. But have you done any kind of checks? at least an oil pressure test? You can't see what an oil pump does so you'll require a gauge.

@armandobasic1507

5 ай бұрын

@@melsmotors I will talk to my mechanic who changed the timing chain, I don't know what the problem is and what to do now... The noise lasts 10-15 seconds on start and sometimes doesn't even stop so I need to turn off the engine and start it again

@melsmotors

5 ай бұрын

@@armandobasic1507 sadly I don't know, if I could fix cars from afar I'd be a millionaire and work from home like these IT guys 😂 Are you sure it's not a chattering dual mass flywheel? These usually stop making the noise after the 2nd start! Get your mechanic to have another look at it👍

Good job. Roughly how long does it take to do?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

The job is around 7.5 hours. Thanks for watching 👍👍😊😊

@Richard-ps7ht

Жыл бұрын

@@melsmotors thank you. I got one to do. 👍

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

@@Richard-ps7ht good luck. 👍

great video, would never dare risking without the cam timing tool however, I recommend it to assure the camshafts are lined proberly ;) The OEM's recommend to take the engine out, they're wrong I've seen many do this job in the car haha. I changed mine with just 80 000kms on it, how many did this one ? I'm guessing about 100k miles by the look of it. Mine has now near 170 000 km, but sometimes starting to rattle again, I'd suggest every 200 000kms at most we should change this chain if we don't want noises, saying that some are noisy some aren't... (listened to loads of these R9M engines...)

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

This had around 60,000 miles, 100,000km. My tech data didn't show timing tools which was surprising, it just showed marks as I showed in the video! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍😊

Do you not do the oil pump chain at the same time ??

@melsmotors

Ай бұрын

Not always, this car has done just over 60k miles and the chain wasn't part of estimated repair!

@colinblythe3710

Ай бұрын

@@melsmotorsOk Thank you

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Is it me? The timing was obviously correct but you put the new large sprocket back with the timing (mark) hole in the wrong place, so the next person doing this will mark up the timing up wrong? Enjoyed it though and was helpful.

@melsmotors

Ай бұрын

I would say it was you! 😉 This isn't a tutorial but a video for entertainment and for my customers to see what we do on their car, if you choose to follow it and it goes wrong I bear no responsibility. Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂👍

Great video but it upset me you didn’t put the timing mark hole on the top pulley back in the correct spot. Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

Didn't mean to upset you!

Is the R9M completely different to the M9R on a 2.0 Vivaro/Renault??

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi, both engine are very similar, as always follow manufacturers instructions or get professional advice. My video is not a tutorial videos but purely for entertainment. I do these videos so my customers can see what we've done on their vehicles with interest. Thanks for watching 🙂👍

@roulettered56

Жыл бұрын

@@melsmotors Thank you!

Hi! М How many miles is necessary to get before replace the timing chain?

@melsmotors

6 ай бұрын

Hi, you don't replace the chain by time, they are replaced usually when they're noisy!

What was the milage on that van please? Great video

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi, from memory I think around 65,000 miles

@mindiawl

Жыл бұрын

@@melsmotors Seriously with teeth like that on the sprocket? Mines at 167k probably has no teeth left 😀

15:12 почему сразу и на маслонасос цепь не поменял?

maybe you should share the fact that you forgot to mention the bolt holding the timing cover in the center. would be much more helpful than editing out that part. Thanks anyway !

Do you recommend an aftermarket kit Or Genuine only ?

@melsmotors

16 күн бұрын

A genuine or good after market part, dealers don't make chains, they buy them in from chain and sprocket makers!

@208d

16 күн бұрын

​@@melsmotorsas with most parts they stick their names on them and triple the price , ive heard the chain is made by jwis but not sure on the sprocket's, surely an Ina kit would be ok ?

@melsmotors

16 күн бұрын

@@208d Ina, FAI, or similar would be fine

@208d

16 күн бұрын

@@melsmotors thank you! thats what i was thinking 😊 fairplay to you . These videos are so helpful!

Is it safe to rise a car when engine mounting is removed?

@melsmotors

3 ай бұрын

It can be as the lower mount is still attached 👍

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How long did this take you, seems a horrendous job.

@melsmotors

9 ай бұрын

Around 7.5 hours

@TheDrum2010

9 ай бұрын

@@melsmotors Thank you for the quick response and a quality video 👍

wear causes slack, which causes the chain to lengthen, so the chain stretches

@melsmotors

6 ай бұрын

The chain doesn't stretch my friend, it's made of steel, the links wear out giving the illusion of stretching! 👍

Interesting video. I would to change the crankshaft pulley but how tight should i need the bolt? Thank you

@georgecroney6168

Жыл бұрын

Depends what engine you've got. Really doesn't matter that much either way. Specs are something like 90 Nm +50° or 130Nm + 50° for a biturbo. Either way, as tight as you can by hand it's not critical. It's a 12pt 21mm bolt into a steel shaft so to break it you'd have to weigh a ton. Specs are from rough memory it's a dead easy job to swap a pulley

Great job where are you based

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

I'm based in Bracknell RG121RL

@omarsibaayie3551

10 ай бұрын

How much would you charge me?

Where are you located? I’m looking to do my one soon.

@melsmotors

10 ай бұрын

I'm in Bracknell, Berkshire

@omarsibaayie3551

10 ай бұрын

What’s your contact number brother please

Good job but I’m not happy with timing you need have tools for this job customer pay good money.

Why didn't you also change the oil pump chain and sprocket?

@kepmagu4ej863

7 ай бұрын

Usually the sproket drown in oil wears less;)

Chains do stretch. If i knew how would upload videos showing this

Incorrect way u must use timing tools exashust cam can move inside gear once the three bolts are slackened and u will have noisy engine afterwards plus new cover or it will leak

@JJ-jc8yv

Жыл бұрын

He's marked intake shaft so if exhaust would move then intake would move. As long as crank shaft is in right position and intake then no tools needed but not a bad thing to put a tool on and check if it's corect. By the way if you going to use a tool then it comes with crank shaft lock pin.

@jameskilboyle2997

Жыл бұрын

Not so look at the slot on exhaust cam it should be horizontal and is not moving when u turn inlet cam with the 3 bolts slack so there fore actual exhaust cam timing is off

Hoe many hours price does an average garage charge for a job like this mate?

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Every garage has different labour rate, it's around a 7 hour job plus parts

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How come when b3fore you tool top big sprocket off there was a small hole and this lined up but when new sprocket put in there's no hole line up and timing marks not there and your going off small sprocket marks? Why is top sprocket not lined up as old one was?

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There's like 5 mins of dead video at the end btw. Otherwise a good video

@melsmotors

Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the update, not sure how that happened! Thanks for watching 👍

great video shame about the bloody music why do people do this its so bloody loud

@melsmotors

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and putting up with it, thankfully most devices have a volume switch 😉👍

@Dia_dhuit

2 ай бұрын

@@melsmotors yes😅 and thank god my volume switches work perfectly😅 so anywayz I know the music is dialled down when u talk but when you stop talking and it go's crazy loud it ruins the viewing experience coz iv to keep turning the volume up and down 😮‍💨

It was going great until he installed the new timing chain kit and screwed it up. Incorrectly installed. Copper parts should be alligned on the timing marks.

@melsmotors

8 ай бұрын

Screwed what up? When you're a professional you don't need to line up the copper coloured links, that's what the timing marks are for! There's loads of timing chain engines without copper links, how are they done and timed? You use the timing marks or timing tools! You did hear the engine start and run in the end right? and it's been back for 2 services since without an issue. This isn't a tutorial on how to change your timing chain, it's for entertainment! If you need to watch a video on how to do a 7.5 hour job like this, then this job isn't for you, it's for a mechanic. Another keyboard warrior who needs to run down someone's video and add his useless 2 pence worth!!!!

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All this work and you didn't change oil pump and chain which is obviously worn on your video and probably making noise on start up. Why you don't invest money in timing tools and do the job properly?

@melsmotors

11 ай бұрын

Hi Tom, thanks for watching and commenting, the van had only only done 60k, and it wasn't as bad as you think so I left it. I showed you in the video that the tech data was showing timing marks and no timing tools for this engine. I have plenty of timing tools! 🙂👍

Your timing method is not satisfying. Basically you are timing a new chain in a worn chain position.

@melsmotors

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment, As shown in the video, the tech data only shows timing marks and not timing tools for this engine. This isn't a tutorial to replace your own timing chain, but a general interest video of what goes into replacing a chain and how chains wear out and not stretch. This van has been in since for servicing and without any issues. Thanks for watching & commenting 🙂👍