Variations of the .455 Webley Fosbery Automatic Revolver

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Today we are taking a look at the different variations in .455 caliber Webley-Fosbery automatic revolvers. The two main types are the Model 1901 and Model 1903 (the Model 1902 was the very rare .38 caliber version). The main change between the two is the change from a coil mainspring to a V mainspring, to improve reliability when dirty; done in response to British military testing. In addition the 1903 has an improved fire control mechanism, a lower hammer profile and a new cylinder removal system.
Within the Model 1903, there is also a change from a standard frame and cylinder to shortened versions of both. These changes occurred at about serial number 3350, in 1912. The shortened cylinder was made to fit the new Webley MkII ammunition, which was notably shorter than the MkI type - and a shorter cylinder reduced weight.
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews4 жыл бұрын

    All types of Webleys come with trench whistles and a generous, sweeping mustache. True story.

  • @B355Y

    @B355Y

    4 жыл бұрын

    And a cuppa tea

  • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228

    @axelpatrickb.pingol3228

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'll take the trench whistle, thank you...

  • @RockIslandAuctionCompany

    @RockIslandAuctionCompany

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can confirm sweeping mustache.

  • @earlwyss520

    @earlwyss520

    4 жыл бұрын

    Early ones came with either mutton chops or tusks and a Martini Henry rifle. I forgot, they also came with a used, blood coverd assegai, and blood stained Zulu sheild with .45 holes in it.

  • @DustyGamma

    @DustyGamma

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oddly, the swagger stick comes separately.

  • @DrBunnyMedicinal
    @DrBunnyMedicinal4 жыл бұрын

    Get tired of firing the same old .455 Webley Fosbery every day? Chin up, old chap! Drop by this month's offering from Rock Island Auctions and you can have one for each day of the week!

  • @Mildcat743
    @Mildcat7434 жыл бұрын

    This video gives me the possibly ill-fated hope of owning a Webley-Fosbery.

  • @RiderOftheNorth1968

    @RiderOftheNorth1968

    4 жыл бұрын

    That´s a bad sickness for the wallet, i feel for you. My decease is a Beaumont Adams in good shooting condition....

  • @parallel-knight

    @parallel-knight

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lucas Hagg i live in the uk surely I should have the right to own one of these really interesting pieces of British history.... but no it’s too dangerous:(

  • @polygondwanaland8390

    @polygondwanaland8390

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parallel-knight "I live in the UK" "surely I have rights" that's where you're wrong, subjecterino

  • @erikcrouch7881

    @erikcrouch7881

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@polygondwanaland8390 Well, to be fair, you DID leave out "should."

  • @seanseanston

    @seanseanston

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@polygondwanaland8390 "I live in the US" "surely my right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" that's where the NFA and many state gun laws say you're wrong, citizenerino

  • @toolthoughts
    @toolthoughts4 жыл бұрын

    Which one goes with the thigh high boots and red bandolier-mankini?

  • @robertozee5024

    @robertozee5024

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm really surprised one of the Halloween shoots hasn't been Ian in full Zardoz kit.

  • @AshleyPomeroy

    @AshleyPomeroy

    4 жыл бұрын

    If there's one thing I learned from that film, it's that Friend is renegade.

  • @wraithcadmus

    @wraithcadmus

    4 жыл бұрын

    THE GUN IS GOOD

  • @1timcat

    @1timcat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Looks like a final markwww.imfdb.org/wiki/Zardoz

  • @pappajudas9267

    @pappajudas9267

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everybody seems to forget he also wears a wedding gown in that film

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils4 жыл бұрын

    Webley-Fosbery seems like how the Citroen cars have been addressed sometimes - perfect solutions to non-existent problems. Don't get me wrong, it's an interesting concept, but it's also adding complexity and weight, and for a handgun that's in general not wanted, at least in military applications.

  • @wesleygay8918

    @wesleygay8918

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah but you cant help but love them, just like those silly French automobiles(or are they Italian? I cant recall)

  • @AshleyPomeroy

    @AshleyPomeroy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bear in mind that they were designed in 1901 - the semi-auto market was still in flux at the time. I've always thought of them as a period equivalent of the modern Chiappa and Mateba revolvers, e.g. a niche product for a small market. If WW1 had never highlighted the concept's flaws we would probably remember them more fondly today.

  • @jonasstrzyz2469

    @jonasstrzyz2469

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AshleyPomeroy I do not know if comparing them to the Chiappa revolver(s) is fair, unless you are only talking about self-cocking and self-aligning (of the cylinder) revolvers. Since the grip angle on the Chiappa Rhino does offer a significant benefit regarding muzzle clime and possibly felt recoil - at least in theory.

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jonasstrzyz2469 that's not a theory, a friend of mine has a rhino and there's almost zero muzzle flip, all the recoil comes straight back. Even with full power .357 +p.

  • @ZGryphon

    @ZGryphon

    4 жыл бұрын

    Webley made the Gabbett-Fairfax Mars. I think it's safe to say they weren't _that_ bothered about weight or complexity. :)

  • @ChaplainPhantasm
    @ChaplainPhantasm4 жыл бұрын

    Me before clicking on the video: Huh. Two unique Webley variations? Me after clicking the video and seeing the pile: *HOLY MOTHER OF ELIZABETH!*

  • @wesleygay8918

    @wesleygay8918

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Queen Mum approves!

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    4 жыл бұрын

    Her name, in case you were wondering, was Elizabeth.

  • @wesleygay8918

    @wesleygay8918

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronleverton4221 I've always thought that must have been somewhat confusing.

  • @DeliveryMcGee

    @DeliveryMcGee

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wesleygay8918 Nah, in practice their first names were Princess and Queen, and then after The king died, Queen and Queen Mother.

  • @SN1P3RPWN925
    @SN1P3RPWN9254 жыл бұрын

    I'm writing a dissertation on the authenticity of World War One in video games and am including a section on the weapons used in Battlefield 1 and Verdun, and this is exactly the type of video I need right now with all the archives closed to the public. Thanks a bunch Ian, I'll be sure to use this and many of your other videos in my research. Keep up the good work!

  • @misterthegeoff9767

    @misterthegeoff9767

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't already done so check out C&Rsenal's primer series, it's an ongoing project to cover every issue firearm used by any military in WW1

  • @clubtcb

    @clubtcb

    4 жыл бұрын

    You'll have your work cut out for you with battelfield 1, from what I've seen

  • @SN1P3RPWN925

    @SN1P3RPWN925

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@misterthegeoff9767 Don't worry I have, Othias and Mae are going to be invaluable too since I now can't get my hands on any collections' guns

  • @SN1P3RPWN925

    @SN1P3RPWN925

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@williamkeith8944 Yeah it's for an MA, I'm sure gun Jesus will help me get through writing 20K words in a breeze

  • @GinSoakedBoy
    @GinSoakedBoy4 жыл бұрын

    «Yes. Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver, thirty-eight, eight shot. They don't make them anymore.»

  • @gunsandblanks706

    @gunsandblanks706

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice Maltese Falcon reference

  • @johndonaldson3619

    @johndonaldson3619

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gunsandblanks706 Actually what he says is: Yes. Webley-Fosbery Automatic Revolver, FORTY-FIVE, eight shot. They don't make them anymore.» (yes, it's technically incorrect)

  • @CeltKnight

    @CeltKnight

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johndonaldson3619 - That's indeed what he says on the screen. But even in the script Sam Spade said "...thirty-eight, eight shot."

  • @CeltKnight

    @CeltKnight

    4 жыл бұрын

    Gin Soaked Boy -- Whoops, sorry, man, I didn't read ahead before I made my reference to the Maltese Falcon movie script. No copy-catting intended. ;) I should have known someone else watching this would beat me to it. ;)

  • @vtbmwbiker
    @vtbmwbiker4 жыл бұрын

    A fascinating exploration of what looks like a basic, mark one "revolver" but with so much more. I've read so many books where, at some point, a minor character has a "big old Webley revolver..." as if it were a lesser weapon. No such thing at all. I agree though-- should come issued with big mustache, lanyard and walking stick.

  • @Reikianolla

    @Reikianolla

    4 жыл бұрын

    What sort of books would those be?

  • @vtbmwbiker

    @vtbmwbiker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Reikianolla Oh, like an old Alistair MacLean book, or other thriller books written in the 60's and 70's. I remember "Webley" mentioned a couple of times. Harder to find those books as libraries around here have taken them off the shelves due to poor circulation.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vtbmwbiker In one of Len Deighton's books (Line, I think) the main character uses his father's wartime Webley and another character who doesn't know who it is or what gun it is thinks to himself "...a too damn professional someone with a a god-damn hand-cannon" or something similar when the bullets start flying.

  • @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    4 жыл бұрын

    A moustache is grown, not issued. Once a suitably magnificent moustache is grown, then the necessary paperwork can be submitted for the lanyard and walking stick. There is an argument that a Gentleman should already have a suitable walking stick, hence only the lanyard required.

  • @goetzliedtke

    @goetzliedtke

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not walking stick - riding crop.

  • @SherryPM72
    @SherryPM724 жыл бұрын

    "Got him right through the pump--with this." "Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver. That's it. Thirty-eight, eight shot. They don't make them any more. How many gone out of it?" ~The Maltese Falcon 1941

  • @johndonaldson3619

    @johndonaldson3619

    4 жыл бұрын

    Actually what he says is: FORTY-FIVE, eight shot. (yes, it's technically incorrect)

  • @vinnydaq13

    @vinnydaq13

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Donaldson It was a mistake on the screenwriters part - they didn’t know the .45 only held 6 rounds.

  • @TJH1
    @TJH14 жыл бұрын

    I shall continue to aspire to obtain one of these but I need a Lee Enfield No.4 T first.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    4 жыл бұрын

    My dad had a Lithgow Mk 2 1918 Lee Enfield. I'll jump straight to the Webley. When my bank manager agrees.

  • @nigelft

    @nigelft

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1 (T) is widely regarded, across all my books on snipers, sniping, and the rifles used, as being the best sniper rifle made, by Allied and Axis forces both, of WWII. Yes, by today's standards, it's a pretty heavy gun; and it isn't sub-MOA. That saying, in decent hands, a decent five shot group, of within -- iirc -- 1 MOA @ 300+ yrds, is definitely possible, and probable at 400+ yrds. In fact, if you do the Mad Minute with one, you'll be surprised how well you can do, given the famous short-throw bolt ... In fact, there is an apocryphal story, that is more than likely true, that when German troops attacked a BEF position, in the early stages of WWI, those that made it back swore that they were being hit by machine gun fire, such was the rapidity of the incoming shots ... But I digress. If you are serious looking for a No.4 Mk.1, do try and find one, not only with its transport case, but also with the metal tin for the scope itself (the No.23 Mk.3 is the go-to, as that was the best iteration of the telescopic sights for that rifle), plus the full equipment schedule, such as the collapsible spooting scope, and case; rifle bag; and much else besides. Very hard to find, and your bank manager will have an aneurysm, but given its historic value, it will be worth it ...

  • @Snootypriss
    @Snootypriss4 жыл бұрын

    Something about the bluing on webley revolvers is really attractive.

  • @roeng1368

    @roeng1368

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, i wonder how it was done. I have a webley target revolver and the bluing is really nice, like old colts.

  • @troy9477

    @troy9477

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I noticed that as well. Also, most of those guns were virtually pristine. They obviousky did nit see hard use and were well cared for.

  • @lepuuttelu
    @lepuuttelu4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple man: I see seven Webley-Fosberys, I zig-zag my cursor to the like button and pull the mouse trigger.

  • @movinmetal2596
    @movinmetal25964 жыл бұрын

    A .38 Fosbery?!! Eight shots!? This is my unicorn revolver. Thank you so much Ian :)

  • @jonasstrzyz2469

    @jonasstrzyz2469

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a modern reproduction chambered in .357 mag.

  • @andljoy
    @andljoy4 жыл бұрын

    Break open revolvers are so cool. Much more practical than other designs.

  • @elgringosupremo

    @elgringosupremo

    4 жыл бұрын

    More durable than swing out cylinder for sure

  • @charlesadams1721

    @charlesadams1721

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@elgringosupremo Swing ou cylinders are much more durable and are much stronger than the break open. The various Webleys and a few American made 22 LR revolvers were the last of the break-open designs and the 22s went the way of all the others in the 1980s. The break-open could be faster on the reload, (and probably was with the vast majority of humans) but even the relatively low-powered late-model Webleys were too weak to reliably hold up to such high-pressure cartridges as the 38 Special and the .44 Special. The advent of the .357 Magnum was the death knell of almost all of the less-than-robust revolver designs., it didn't matter that a specific maker had no intention to build .357 Magnum revolvers, it was that it showed that technology had made a significant change. As to the question of durability, for the most part, the revolver as a martial design was phased out by the British Empire, as the last wide-spread user of the design starting in the 1930sto be replaced by semi-autos. The last major hold-outs for revolvers for police and law-enforcement uses were the thousands of US law enforcement organizations, federal, state and local of which virtually none used the faster-to-reload break open designs. The reasons for the lack of break-open designs? Testing had found a lack of the robustness of the design, the fragility of the components and the comparative ease of access of dirt, sand, and dust into the actions. This was added to the fact that full-powered loads even with such low-pressure cartridges such as the British .38-200 could 'stretch' the frame under prolonged use. Oh, almost forgot, the Japanese police hung onto the double-action pistol design for some of their officers until well into the 1980s as well. But they had used swing-out cylinders, not the break open designs. BTW, for me, I really like shooting a break-open revolver and it is pretty nice to be able to fire the rounds, hit the release, let the barrel to pivot away, and lever the barrel open to eject the empties, then be able to quickly load new cartridges.

  • @KingHalbatorix

    @KingHalbatorix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @igor šajinović the design is fundimentally flawed in terms of how forces are distributed through the frame. With today's metallurgy it would be technically possible to make higher chamber pressure top-break revolvers, _but they would always be heavier and bulkier_ than the swing-out version of the same calibur. On a durability vs weight basis the swing-out is superior, and weight is an important factor in the practicality of a gun. I would say the third most important factor, after caliber and capacity.

  • @devincook2736

    @devincook2736

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@KingHalbatorix I forget the correct name of the revolvers that fire out the bottom of the cylinder vs the top of the cylinder, but if someone had to have it and wanted to spend the money it would seem that moving the hinge point as close to the barrel axis as possible would reduce strain on the locking latch.

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis97214 жыл бұрын

    I kid you not: Connecticut's original "adult weapons" ban included automatic revolvers, because gangsters be using rare firearms with obscure cartages.

  • @BatCaveOz
    @BatCaveOz4 жыл бұрын

    The 2 people that disliked this probably worked for Mateba. Also - Shoutout to LifeSizePotato 👍

  • @AGS363

    @AGS363

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I really miss the guy and his "Hippster gun collection".

  • @paulkelly7896
    @paulkelly78964 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant; love these latest videos, how your explaining the differences between different hand gun models, it’s great

  • @jonminer9891
    @jonminer98914 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on your site. The first day and over 15,000 views already. Well done.

  • @austincummins7712
    @austincummins77124 жыл бұрын

    When I see Ian with an array of very similar looking guns in a row on the table I get parallel thoughts about when I open an entire tube of tennis balls and dump them all out on the floor for my dog and watch the mayhem.

  • @wesleytownsend8214
    @wesleytownsend82144 жыл бұрын

    Automatic revolver... hmmm very unique and every time I see these (I have never seen one in person but Ian’s amazing content has shown these before I think...). I wish good health and all the best to you and yours!

  • @earlwyss520
    @earlwyss5204 жыл бұрын

    If you ever get the chance, watch "Zardoz" with Sean Connery. There is a scene in the movie where Sean picks up a pistol from a pile of weapons and it is one of these, you can clearly see the recoil groves in the cylinder.

  • @gtwannabe2

    @gtwannabe2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ian just needs a set of thigh-high boots and orange Mankini to complete his Halloween costume.

  • @lordsummerisle87

    @lordsummerisle87

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you watch really closely you can see him re-cock it between shots, since the blanks didn't cycle the action.

  • @MosoKaiser

    @MosoKaiser

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gtwannabe2 Feels like wearing nothing at all!

  • @AshleyPomeroy

    @AshleyPomeroy

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have the film on blu-ray - the director's commentary is priceless. It was shot in Ireland and John Boorman found it very difficult to get hold of huge quantities of blank-firing guns until some local outdoors enthusiasts helped him.

  • @wingracer1614

    @wingracer1614

    4 жыл бұрын

    For some reason I was thinking it was a regular Webley, not a Fosbery so I went looking for photos and at first I thought I was right since I found a good close up of Connery holding it and I couldn't see the slide part. Then I realized I couldn't see it because his grip was so high that if he actually fired it like that, he would lose half his hand.

  • @Gronicle1
    @Gronicle14 жыл бұрын

    I like the detail and am I'mpressed by the info you share. Thanks,

  • @user-gk5uy2fs2f
    @user-gk5uy2fs2f2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the review! Fosbury is a wonderful revolver!

  • @FishTheJim
    @FishTheJim4 жыл бұрын

    The first time I ever heard about the Webley Fosbery was watching the Maltese Falcon with my Dad and I wondered what type of firearm that was for years. Sam Spade says they were unique and that they don't make them anymore. I had no idea how unique they were until years later. Thanks for the video.

  • @lukapredanic7647
    @lukapredanic76474 жыл бұрын

    Fireplace guy will buy them all.

  • @leafgreensniper13
    @leafgreensniper134 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ian or whoever, I'm wondering how much you think Battlefield 1 influenced interest in WWI firearms and history. While I can't say the same for Battlefield V, you mentioned Bf 1 resurrected the Hellriegel and I can imagine it did the same for other weapons. Playing Bf 1 is a part of why I'm here, and maybe it is for other people too.

  • @sharkface129

    @sharkface129

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know that it sparked my interest in the M1912 pistol. Thankfully it's not the most expensive one to find examples of.

  • @blamb42
    @blamb424 жыл бұрын

    Now that you've introduced me to all the different variants I wouldn't know which one to bid on.

  • @stinsonsloch4874
    @stinsonsloch48744 жыл бұрын

    If only some of the Webley-Fosberys made it to my country, I'd love to own one of them.

  • @TactaGhoul
    @TactaGhoul4 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely beautiful! I wish you had put this video out before I modeled this thing, it would've been great for reference images. In my opinion the 1901 looks far more elegant than the later models.

  • @troy9477
    @troy94774 жыл бұрын

    I know my face lit up when i saw 7 of them on the table. All in great condition too, except for 1. I did not know there were so many variations. I always assumed they were a standard pattern. I should know better, given how many changes there were in Webleys over just a few years. British officer had to provide their own sidearms prior to WW1, so it is remotely possible that a few of them saw action in outposts of the Empire. The British were big believers in large bore revolvers for 'wog-smashing', and sometimes the locals took a lot of killing (see .577 Adams). Hamilton Bowen knows a few things about the .577, and has converted some Redhawks. Anyway, great video as always. Thank you

  • @SootHead
    @SootHead4 жыл бұрын

    An odd gun and fun to shoot. I don't think they went over all that well and probably wouldn't have been a player at all had the Webleys not had such a horrendously hard double action trigger pull. The wonderful trigger pull (all things are relative) was the biggest thing I noticed shooting the Fosbury versus a standard Webley (which I typically shoot single only). Would like to see the 4-inch barrel version, as those are my favorite Webleys generally speaking.

  • @paulkeys175
    @paulkeys1754 жыл бұрын

    If you ever get to Australia the War Memorial Canberra, Lithgow Factory Museum and Ron Owens museum in Gympie Queensland would be a must for you. There was also a fantastic museum in Illfracombe Queensland of a working specimen of nearly every small arm used in WW2.

  • @CeltKnight
    @CeltKnight4 жыл бұрын

    "A Webley. English, ain't it?" "Yes. A Webley-Fosbery automatic revolver, thirty-eight, eight shot. They don't make them anymore." And that is a sad, sad thing, indeed. I love early turn-of-the-Twentieth-Century designs when pretty much everything was some sort of wild idea or innovation, practical or not. Late Steam Punk, I suppose. Beautiful examples and I don't know if I'd be able to sit at a table with seven such fine examples and not feel that life could hold no more wonder. ;)

  • @davidlamppert9093

    @davidlamppert9093

    4 жыл бұрын

    "The Big Sleep", 1946

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis94494 жыл бұрын

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @KuruGDI
    @KuruGDI4 жыл бұрын

    You learn something new everyday. Until now I didn't know there are cycling automatic revolvers.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    4 жыл бұрын

    The first book I owned that detailed mentioned its usability along the lines of "...susceptible to mud, of which there was no shortage on the Western Front."

  • @DevinMoorhead
    @DevinMoorhead4 жыл бұрын

    I'm here for a Zardos reference.

  • @keithriggs4456
    @keithriggs44564 жыл бұрын

    In the film, The Maltese Falcon, Sam Spades' partner was shot with a Webley-Fosbery

  • @harryalpert8002
    @harryalpert80024 жыл бұрын

    awesome vid brother! thanks!

  • @johndonaldson3619
    @johndonaldson36194 жыл бұрын

    n the 'Maltese Falcon", when Spade is discussing the murder of Archer with Tom Polhaus, Polhaus says the murder weapon is a "Webley." Spade then goes on to describe the weapon as a "Webley-Forsby (sic), .45 Automatic, 8-shot.", In the book, the weapon is correctly referred to as a .38 caliber, 8-shot.

  • @FoxDren
    @FoxDren4 жыл бұрын

    today I learned that automatic revolvers exist

  • @stepsistertrap5992

    @stepsistertrap5992

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ascdren Some of the coolest and inutile guns ever, I love them

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    4 жыл бұрын

    The mateba is probably the best if the bunch. Basically a chiappa rhino autorevolver in .357.

  • @xzqzq

    @xzqzq

    4 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know there was such a thing.

  • @KingHalbatorix

    @KingHalbatorix

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ScottKenny1978 it has other caliber options as well, goes up to .454 casull, which would be a wrist-breaker if not for the recoil action

  • @jameschrobot8189
    @jameschrobot81894 жыл бұрын

    Briefly featured in The Maltese Falcon (1941)

  • @phildavis2943

    @phildavis2943

    4 жыл бұрын

    didnt spade get description wrong?

  • @phildavis2943

    @phildavis2943

    4 жыл бұрын

    gun that killed archer

  • @jameschrobot8189

    @jameschrobot8189

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’d have to watch the film again. I remember Spade (Bogey) pulling the gun off a dead body near the base of the Golden Gate Bridge. He looks at it and comments “Webley -Fosbury”. Just a clever film detail to let the audience know Spade knew his stuff.

  • @headwaves6986
    @headwaves69864 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always been fascinated with the Camelot Delvinge 1873. Is it possible for you to do a video on them?

  • @socialex
    @socialex4 жыл бұрын

    My great great grandfather designed and built this gun as well as the Holland and Holland paradox.

  • @diptastik5651
    @diptastik56514 жыл бұрын

    They are truly beautiful guns .

  • @repletereplete8002
    @repletereplete80024 жыл бұрын

    Our god declares this gun is good.

  • @SafetyProMalta
    @SafetyProMalta4 жыл бұрын

    Steampunk Allan Quartermain dual Webley-Fosbery's and a Thorneycroft searching for King Solomon's mines.

  • @joshsquatch7474
    @joshsquatch74744 жыл бұрын

    There is something just so uniquely British about the Fosbery.

  • @parallel-knight
    @parallel-knight4 жыл бұрын

    I’m British live in UK. Every time I see something about this auto-revolver It just makes me want one even more but nope anyone who wants gun in the UK is a crazy person or a terrorist :/ so unfair...

  • @misterthegeoff9767

    @misterthegeoff9767

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only handguns, A mate of mine has a collection of old military black powder rifles, martini-henrys and such like. So if you want to get into guns in the UK there's avenues you can follow.

  • @TuRmIx96

    @TuRmIx96

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know it's not the same but how about a deactivated one? I don't know much about british law tbh.

  • @giggles0051

    @giggles0051

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think you'll find firearms ownership in the UK is at it's highest since the 70's and is still on the up. Change only happens by campaigning and reasoning, not by acceptance of what is "the norm"

  • @parallel-knight

    @parallel-knight

    4 жыл бұрын

    giggles0051 mate the day we can own firearms like in America will be the happiest day of my entire life

  • @misterthegeoff9767

    @misterthegeoff9767

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@parallel-knight If you seriously want to get into it join a club and look into the law. Shotguns are relatively easy to get licences for but you can also get licences for things like old military bolt action rifles or even modern stuff as long as it's not semi-automatic

  • @Phos9
    @Phos94 жыл бұрын

    A bit of a minor advantage these have over a typical semi auto pistol, a double action trigger pull will still advance to the next chamber if the gun fails to cycle. That said, magazine fed pistols have achieved a level of reliability where there’s probably a better chance of this getting stuck between chambers than of a semi auto malfunctioning.

  • @jeffaguilar4790
    @jeffaguilar47904 жыл бұрын

    Fabulous video.

  • @duaneaubuchon9453
    @duaneaubuchon94534 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video!!!

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield4 жыл бұрын

    I wish some out fit in Turkey, Brazil or the Philippines would start making the short frame versions in .38 Special. I love the mechanism but will never be able to afford one. Probably can't afford a reissue either. Looks like a lot of machining and assembly work in one of those. A nickel plated Webley Fozbery, that must be a wondrous sight to behold.

  • @Axonteer
    @Axonteer4 жыл бұрын

    I am no gun-nut and not a weapons expert but... i was surprised that there was so much mechanicals (for the lack of a better word) to a simple thing like a revolver - i really thought of them to be something like in wild west without much improvement - i didnt knew about the automatic cocking action and sliding upper part and all the details... i sort of got a new respect now for it. (yes im a gun welp i only fired my dads stg90 at the range way back when he still was alive and the ammo manager for the shooting sports club)

  • @avanticurecanti9998
    @avanticurecanti99984 жыл бұрын

    "THE GUN IS GOOD!"

  • @guidogt9878
    @guidogt98783 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I've never seen this in a revolver. Thanks.

  • @tomalexander4327
    @tomalexander43274 жыл бұрын

    Nothing says empire to me more than these revolvers

  • @jabronimargaretti7315
    @jabronimargaretti7315 Жыл бұрын

    Also, what a huge safety lever with big "SAFE" word on it

  • @jeffhartman2983
    @jeffhartman29834 жыл бұрын

    5:31, Filthy dirty bore. I would have my smoke wagon shining like the Chrysler Building if I knew Gun Jesus was going to be handling it.

  • @paulmanson253
    @paulmanson2534 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Rube Goldberg was a consulting engineer on these monsters.

  • @darrenbrashaw8409

    @darrenbrashaw8409

    4 жыл бұрын

    No no on, it was Mr Heath Robinson!!!

  • @McCbobbish
    @McCbobbish4 жыл бұрын

    Gonna have to see the Mateba 6 Unica one of these dayse lol

  • @stuborn-complaining-german

    @stuborn-complaining-german

    4 жыл бұрын

    I also would love to see a video on the Mateba Sei Unica once...

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak55544 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. I hadn't realized they varied that much.

  • @nikkigarand7258
    @nikkigarand72584 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be able to stop myself from racking that pistol all day😆. It's just plain satisfying.

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr7714 жыл бұрын

    Very cool pistols. Will the early pistols fire the 2nd generation ammo?

  • @wingracer1614

    @wingracer1614

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think so but don't take my word for it.

  • @eyeamstrongest
    @eyeamstrongest4 жыл бұрын

    in my sleep deprived stupor i thought it was just another webley revolver video

  • @edllanfranco9078
    @edllanfranco90784 жыл бұрын

    Dear future owners. Just... Don't try to convert them to .45 due to "Unexpectable Consequences"

  • @DeliveryMcGee

    @DeliveryMcGee

    4 жыл бұрын

    I fired a couple cylinders of .45ACP ball from my non-reciprocating Webley, and God knows how many essentially proof loads had been fired in the 60 years before I got it, but it was still going strog when I got reloading dies and made up factory-pressure loads. Really need to get so .45 Auto Rim brass so I can have the proper shower of cases on ejection, the moonclips are kinda boring.

  • @markusmottus1686
    @markusmottus16864 жыл бұрын

    Man I love the idea of a automatic revolver just because it sound so contradicting and also because they're cool as hell

  • @wingracer1614

    @wingracer1614

    4 жыл бұрын

    Combine this with auto ejection and you have the ultimate steampunk revolver.

  • @Observer31
    @Observer314 жыл бұрын

    Such a cool gun.

  • @noabsolutelynot3660
    @noabsolutelynot3660 Жыл бұрын

    I almost want to design an aerna shooter game wherein every weapon is just a strange and niche gun from this channel. Best part is licensing would be a lot easier given how many are genuinely "Forgotten weapons"

  • @matusfekete6503
    @matusfekete65034 жыл бұрын

    I'm man of simple tastes. I see auto-revolver, I give like.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion784 жыл бұрын

    When you need to steal a Maltese Falcon in San Francisco

  • @41hijinx22
    @41hijinx224 жыл бұрын

    In The Maltese Falcon Humphrey Bogart mentions that his business partner was murdered with a Webley Fosbery. He says "They don't make 'em any more".

  • @bigDbigDbigD
    @bigDbigDbigD4 жыл бұрын

    Super cool. Wish I could afford one.

  • @billsummy2412
    @billsummy24124 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME !

  • @kingquesadilla7713
    @kingquesadilla77134 жыл бұрын

    I have a completely new respect for defense distributed and their shotgun design.

  • @danapatelzick594
    @danapatelzick5944 жыл бұрын

    These are very cool. When you shoot one are they startling because the cylinder moves back?

  • @markduckmanton4227
    @markduckmanton42274 жыл бұрын

    When my father was training in the British army around the mid 50s, his sargeant major told him in a real fight not use his revolver, it would make him stick out like a sore thumb, it was an excellent man stopper apparently though. These webleys seem overly complex.

  • @hikariyouk
    @hikariyouk4 жыл бұрын

    I really want a Webley-Fosbery. Alas I am geographically challenged, in the most ironic way.

  • @crazyfvck
    @crazyfvck4 жыл бұрын

    The earlier guns with long cylinders and long frames look so much better than the later guns.

  • @revolverDOOMGUY
    @revolverDOOMGUY4 жыл бұрын

    The problem with this revolver is that if the grooves get dirty the gun can't work proprely. If i remember correctly this is the same reason that doomed the Pancor Jackhammer shotgun, the cyliinder was to susceptible to dirt.

  • @QUIX2468
    @QUIX24684 жыл бұрын

    Did the extractor just yeet out of the gun at @5:49 ?

  • @Kaboomf

    @Kaboomf

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had to look twice, but it seems to work as intended. Extracts the empties then snaps back out of the way for reloading. Sure looked like it launched across the room though, it snaps forward again so fast the movement mostly happened between video frames.

  • @MStryker40
    @MStryker404 жыл бұрын

    I really hope Ian can do a video about the Mateba Unica 6.

  • @TroopperFoFo
    @TroopperFoFo4 жыл бұрын

    My dream pistol. Break action semi auto. Now only if I had the money.

  • @shadeshiest22
    @shadeshiest224 жыл бұрын

    Always wanted a .455 Webley being such a Sherlock Holmes fan

  • @roeng1368

    @roeng1368

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Always carry a revolver east of Aldgate Watson ! ". Very apt advice, even today.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    4 жыл бұрын

    Len Deighton taught me about Messrs Webley and Scott.

  • @troy9477

    @troy9477

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought Holmes used a 450 Bulldog? Or did it vary?

  • @shadeshiest22

    @shadeshiest22

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know Watson always carried a Webley, I’m not positive on Holmes can’t remember it’s been so long

  • @mikekemp9877
    @mikekemp98774 жыл бұрын

    try the property dept of the san francisco pd ian for an 02 .38.it was the gun mary astor shot sam spades partner with in the maltese falcon! lol!

  • @libertyprime9163
    @libertyprime91634 жыл бұрын

    Those look the size of a S&W mag 500, cool.

  • @davidegaleotti94
    @davidegaleotti944 жыл бұрын

    You had me at that 4.55 clickbaiting start

  • @edi9892
    @edi98924 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe that such a puny spring can handle the recoil.

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leverage.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson4 жыл бұрын

    The only one of these I ever saw up close belonged to a cowboy in South Dakota. He got drunk one night and shot his big toe off with the blasted gun. He was not a happy cowboy, the bartender at the bar where it happened was not all that happy either, you were not allowed to carry in bars back then, so the dude got a ticket as well as loosing his big toe. What a nimrod.

  • @colinmcgrath2392
    @colinmcgrath23924 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to know more. Perhaps someone should write a book? 🤔

  • @gavincross2902
    @gavincross29024 жыл бұрын

    Love my Webley but I never knew about the automatic version. Very cool. Do NOT like the low powered ammo and the difficulty finding it. Thanks.

  • @troy9477

    @troy9477

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you referring to the Fiocchi? I know it is a main source of the ammo.

  • @gavincross2902

    @gavincross2902

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@troy9477 no. The standard casing is so small and short. Does not make for a fast bullet imho

  • @roeng1368
    @roeng13684 жыл бұрын

    I want one of these wonderful revolvers, and an early savage 99, and a webley 1902 falling block big game rifle, and a cased pair of Holland and Holland royals, and a Swiss p210. You don't think i am being greedy do you ?

  • @WALTERBROADDUS

    @WALTERBROADDUS

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are man of great taste. Do you have any Grey Poupon? 🧐

  • @markfergerson2145

    @markfergerson2145

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ian is Gun Jesus, not Gun Santa Claus.

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    4 жыл бұрын

    I heard your bank account cry out in terror before suddenly being silenced.

  • @frankyg2384
    @frankyg23844 жыл бұрын

    Weird question here, since these are recoil operated revolvers, technically, could you make them full auto? I know that would be pointless, would be hilarious.

  • @ArcturusOTE

    @ArcturusOTE

    4 жыл бұрын

    In theory yes, tho I do wonder how the fire control group would be installed since it'll probably take a big space to fit it in Or we just skip the fire select part and make it safe/FA only lel

  • @DerekIcelord
    @DerekIcelord4 жыл бұрын

    The lot numbers in the description don't pull up any Webley-Fosbery pistols, nor are any listed on RIA's site.

  • @ForgottenWeapons

    @ForgottenWeapons

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are probably searching in their next online-only auction, not the premiere.

  • @georgebrown6540
    @georgebrown6540 Жыл бұрын

    As always Ian, very interesting video, presented in immaculate style. Sounds like I'm brown nosing a but I'm not, I just appreciate the information and the way it's presented, thanks for sharing.

  • @schana96
    @schana964 жыл бұрын

    Do you think anyone ever converted one of these to full auto? That would be quite the sight to see.

  • @zepetv589

    @zepetv589

    4 жыл бұрын

    It'd probably run a good bit over 1000RPM, with 6 shots and such a beefy round it'd be basically a single burst with some silly recoil/muzzle rise.

  • @gennaroita1690
    @gennaroita16904 жыл бұрын

    i know this from bf1 :D cool to see it here too !

  • @LikeUntoBuddha
    @LikeUntoBuddha4 жыл бұрын

    If you do not have an 1902 version, I'm only going to watch this for 12 minutes.

  • @Entiox
    @Entiox4 жыл бұрын

    I have a Mk.I, a Mk.4, and a Mk.6 in my collection, of course I want a Webley-Fosbery. I just can't afford one.

  • @kevinoliver3083

    @kevinoliver3083

    6 ай бұрын

    You mean a Mk.IV and a Mk.VI.

  • @shooter3083
    @shooter30834 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else see the cartridge extractor launch to the right when the revolver was opened at 5:50?

  • @Ni999

    @Ni999

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep.