Vanilla cloaking device in space engineers
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Hi!
In this video I'll show you a stealth ship that is hard to see and can't be targeted by Ai turrets. It's cloaked. And vanilla. Boom.
The LSG Video I mentioned: • INVISIBLE TO TURRETS !...
The Ship's blueprint:
steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Mod Io:
spaceengineers.mod.io/obsidia...
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To be fair, if you see a sudden sharp angle in the skybox it's gonna throw off some red flags.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
It's just a glitch don't worry, nothing to see here!
@riebeckhearthian4948
3 жыл бұрын
Another day in keen's game!
@combineconformist
3 жыл бұрын
@Creed Dennis shut up
@combineconformist
3 жыл бұрын
@Toby Cyrus you too
@layzey9340
2 жыл бұрын
@@combineconformist You're radiating with Daddy Issues energy
Imagine minding your buisness around your base, when all of the sudden a massive ship that you hadn't seen before starts unleashing hell from out of nowhere.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
That's EXACTLY the kind of fear I want to instill.
I like this because it is kind of overpowered, but takes a lot of work to maintain, and is expensive, and also you cant enter, leave or dock while cloaked, making it kind of balanced
It’s a pretty sophisticated system for scouting offline bases or having a cargo stash be protected against any AI enemies. There’s a lot of real potential with this and I think we should expect to see this technology more often once it’s potential is fully realized.
Dude this things BADASS. Amazing work.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
For PVP I wouldn't count on it too much, all weapons can be manually targeted. For PVE, it would absolutely work wonders. The black diamond ship format is pretty ominous in its own right though :D
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Well, if the enemy can see you, then yes. You're toast in minutes. Theres also probably better ways to utilize this tech. But: if you can surprise the enemy you might be able to do a lot of damage.
it looks like the thing from No mans sky!!! great work
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thunderblunder5994
3 жыл бұрын
nah man its from "MOONS HAUNTED"
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
@@thunderblunder5994 I'm unfamiliar with that, gotta check it out
@robertrietmeijer1249
3 жыл бұрын
If you make it green, you can stick it above a sims character
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertrietmeijer1249 😂
as a first real ship project i actually made a railgun sniper that is 2 blocks thin and 3 blocks tall so its hard to spot when aiming at someone lol
I always wondered how a design invisible to the AI would work and now I know it works great! And you've managed to make it look pretty cool looking too! Kudos man!
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it
I played Space Engineers at 2 separate points in my life. I'd be willing to return for a third and final time if I could get enough people on board to assist me in re-creating my most ambitious creation (only this time with zero mods.) I was working on a simply MASSIVE ship. Its stats were ridiculous honestly, albeit the fact that they were heavily boosted by mods. But I digress, what made it so special was all of the collaborated talent that contributed something to it. We had clang drives for maximum thrust. We were rocking rotor cannons the pilot could use while flying. Two people could operate piston guns (remotely) from inside the ship. Our vehicle depot was extremely large and could store a small army of drones at a players command and a wide assortment of vehicles all docked and ready for combat. The vehicle depot also had some of the largest opening blast doors we could rock! The landing gear was outrageous. We even had a method of nuking large enemy opposition. There's so much I want to do with this ship design idea, and its not just the creation of the ship, but also an entire server that revolves around this vessel and the crew exploring a massive hostile world. The server idea itself is extremely ambitious but none of that will ever matter if I don't return to the game. I just don't want to go it alone anymore.
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm thinking about starting a new role playing thing and the ship is still under construction. Could be somewhat in the lines you're talking about. Why did you step away from SE?
@MurakumoVance
2 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 I explain it in this video & show a bit of it off kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJ6Dz7VrmpfVhs4.html
Well, it looks like someone stole my idea. I already have designs for cloaked fighters and battle craft, I just haven't been able to build them yet. Excellent video, sir! I would note, to anyone reading this, that you do not have to make the cloak as complex as this for it to work. My designs involve a two grid system where the internals of the ship (all the functional parts) slide into a separate sheath grid, which is neutral. It is not mechanized, but also cannot malfunction. The weapons of these ships are positioned to fire out of small openings in the neutral grid, which makes them partially targetable, but only if they are in direct line with enemy weapons, which, if you are maneuvering quickly as I do with lighter vessels, means you are much less likely to take damage. Just some thoughts I've had, hopefully someone takes these ideas and runs with them.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for your input. I hope others will benefit from it!
Honestly looks like something out of an early 2000s or late 1990s sci fi film. Very good design indeed. There was a similar ship in looks only called Stealth something. It also used that same chrome sci fi look but it could still be targeted.
Love that you inform people where you saw it n dont just try to take the credit, and awesome work checking other ways to apply it. I know you just saved me quite a bit of experimentation time. New follower gained via the power of respect
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Neat! Welcome aboard!
I could see this benefitting PvPers. Use it on a mobile base and you'll never get griefed, use it on a torpedo you won't have to worry about turrets.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
I think for a turret it might be too bulky - you're probably better off just using inertia based projectiles. Another idea I had for those was putting decoys on them between the "functional" part and the armor-block-weights. That way the enemy turrets shoot off the terminal blocks while leaving the weights perfectly functional. But yes, regarding the mobile base: I'm thinking that in a realistic manner, this might be able to guide enemy fire away from positions you want to protect to others that you want attacked (through decoys even more so)
@carteradams43
3 жыл бұрын
a stealth torpedo? I wanna see that... actually I might try and make one
This is brilliant. I can't wait to make a station using this technique. Thank you for the inspiration!
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Makes me happy to have inspired so many!
you inspired me to build an invisible attack ship but cool part
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Neat! Comment your blueprint on this video, once it's done!
@spongex2002
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 with pleasure ^^
This is mind-blowing!! I was trying to build a cloaking ship with LCD's or something but I could never acuttly get it to work efficiently. This concept is amazing, I am going to try it right now.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that I was able to inspire you 😊
Burglar breaks in. “What are you doing here!?” “You cant see me.” “What?! Yes i ca-“ “Shhhhhhhhhhhh- arent i marvelous?”
Oh no...the Atlas has jumped from No Mans Sky to Space Engineers!
Dude. This is BRILLIANT. If I get a good computer one day I'm gonna buy this game and try it out. I've loved this game for years. Sinply lack funds. But honestly this is amazing. If you're trying to find it you can, but it's camouflage works if you're trying to trap someone. I would make it a more...battle resistant shape though.
The way to use this in pvp lies in using gravity drives inside and make the shell so it fits over a ship like a sock so its less likely to clang. Having the back open also allows u to ditch it fast if needed.
Instead of a regular ship, this design would be good to hide a nice station i think.
Beautiful. I've been screwing with this concept for a while and ALWAYS get shot up. I've been using landing gear to attach the grids and get blown away each time. I almost wondered if it were "fixed" in an update or something. You've got me excited to try again!
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I think it's important that there are no gaps. Did you leave gaps?
@brandonminer749
3 жыл бұрын
Just tried it again: literally built myself into a cube with a small grid ship inside attached via landing gear. They lit me up like a christmas tree. Doesn't work anymore?
Kudos to you for pretending its hard to spot. With the right skybox, it might very well be impossible to spot.
It works better if you make a hollo image that looks like an asteroid. I do it in servers and no one has ever found my base ship. Even within 4km.
This can be described in one word... NEAT! The possibilities with this tech are gonna be great!
dude this is game changing XD
This thing looks totally alien, it's awesome.
I do agree that It can change the pvp space engineers since you can build a very op ship in the game.
7:03 definitely me, mind is definitely blown Also looks really cool!
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@lizzard3699
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 I will definitely be trying this out later, very cool idea ... question tho do I credit you or (sorry I forgot the other person you mentioned) or both of you for the idea? :)
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
@@lizzard3699 the other one is Last Stand Gamers.
@lizzard3699
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 ok, thank you!
It's a good concept. Maybe if we mixed it with projectors we could make it even sneaky.
@Namelesswhirl
2 жыл бұрын
After the Warfare update, does it still work?
Trying this using glass instead of light armor Trying to make a stealth ship
It makes me think of the Mortis Monolith from the old Star wars cartoon... Beware the twins of the force and the father (and god help you if you free the "mother" Abeloth from the Maw) Imagine this thing as a spawnable NPC hostile... You have your ship and your base set up and all of a sudden, something black appears against the starry backdrop of space.. You exclaim "That is no moon" and Blamo,, a hundred missiles hit your base and tear you to tiny shreds...
@sgt_delta5565
3 жыл бұрын
abeloth.... ohhh noo
This is awesome, and especially hilarious to me because i'm currently working on building a faction of rogue AI themed grids that are designed around that kind of monolithic black diamond shape. I am totally going to borrow this idea. ;D
when I'll build a scout ship I'll probably build this as the front of the ship and have some sick weapony hidden in the back
@FrozenRat161
3 жыл бұрын
nvm, this is strong af on it's own
I love to see more of this design, and would be very cool to see that Calvert to a laser satilite.
Thanks much, you provided the information I needed for a build. I'd seen an older video on the same concept & it added so much to my "list" of builds. Now I know I've been doing it wrong but to be fair I'm working 3-5 projects at once every time... I can't leave comments from my Tv's controls but I had to say something about this so dug up the vid with phone.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Happy I could help 😉
This + carrier class ship = profit
Soooo, you build the Star Stealer ship from the Starlight Brigade music video. This is awesome work, the mechanism of the moving shielding alone is awesome. Let alone the workaround of finding such loophole in the SE mechanics.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Hah, didn't have that in mind. But yeah, kinda did build that hehe
I don't know if it's just me, but I could actually see it pretty well. Though I wonder, if disco blocks painted black would blend in with the Stars along with the Blackness of space better
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, many people have reported that. It probably has something to do with monitor settings
@mega6076
2 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 would that be bad?
i mean as far as visibility goes it was completely entirely visible the entire time but as far as ai visibility goes i give it an a+
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Well I should have filmed what it looks like 2km away... Yeah up close like that you'll see it easily.
I like the TETH shape. I have also a similar shield on one of my destroyers, following the same LSG video. Not movable like yours. But now using shield mod.
Welcome to the DEATH DIAMOND
You can add a merge block on the walls and have them turn on and off unless the merge has some kind of control panel on it.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that. I'll need to test that.
Thank you for the tech and ideas! I as well have some vanilla no scripts inventions that I can share if requested. For example a warning system that can trigger actions if one turret has fired at something. Can detect incoming enemies. Unless they use this cloaking shield.
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for something like that for a scout drone you could send out to chart a sector of space 😮
From afar it looks like a very wet invisible person texture. Its blackness contrasts against the galaxies and nebulae in the skybox.
BRO YOU HELPED ME SO MUCH I WAS SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR HOURS
@antiloompa8338
6 ай бұрын
Happy to help! 😊
@Mister-Toaster
6 ай бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 I don’t wanna sound annoying or weird you don’t have to answer it but why did you stop uploading? Your videos are great man
meet the gravity mass driver
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
F
Huh. I’m gonna have to try this concept with tank armor
you deserve way more views my guy amazing
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Aww thanks!
looks amazing and creepy
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
That's what I was going for
only missing the red eye for something straight out of NMS
Its a good idea and as you references LSG showed what an unpowered grid will do. Unfortunately this design would not work well in MP thanks to clang on a moving grid. It could be more possible on a ground base design. Really stealth is hard to do in SE. Various different elements cannot mix and the only way to use these features is by going with the one or another approach. In the case of the video that would be using this to block ground fire instead of space or to just make a dark hard to see ship. In mp we really cannot have both at the same time.
Sadly Warfare 2 broke this... Oh well... REALLY awesome ship though! The design aesthetic of it is just wonderful!
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Whaaaaaaaaat?
@robertwieczorek1193
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even unpowered grids can be locked onto now in the cockpit. Makes stealth useless. It's very sad.
This concept is nothing new, I've been working on a usable corvette concept for over a year now... I do like the use of the skin though, the sealed Diamond looked very menacing.
@Centrifuze
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't say it was new. In fact, he credited a Last Stand Gamers video at the very beginning.
Use this with nanobot build and repair system to grind down enemy ships without them ever reacting to your presence OR.. you can use shift G to build a hacking chip on their ship from the safety of your cockpit hidden behind a neutral grid OR.. build magnetic plates on the outside of this ship , set their ownership to neutral, stick to an enemy ship then grind your way inside.
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Well, any terminal block can be targeted by turrets set to target neutral. The armor blocks can't. Other than that - solid ideas 😎
@sebione3576
2 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 ah ok for some reason I was thinking a terminal block was a block with a terminal on it. I have 1700 hours in the game, but I haven't really experimented in creative much so videos like yours that teach me something are kind of cool. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to gameplay mechanics sometimes.
@theaveragepro1749
2 жыл бұрын
maybe peek a gravity cannon out between the cloaking plates, or just shoot straight through the plate actually, you could fire the cannon without needing to uncloak, gravity generators could affect rocks from within the cloak, and all you would need to do is make some kind of line of sight blocking corner to let rocks through without being targetted
This is awesome nice work
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Long time no see!
Yeah i use black paint for this reason too. That's fine also as someone doesn't make an viability mod were they change black to bright orange.
This is awesome!!
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
No Engineer’s Sky
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
True dat. Thanks for subscribing, Agent Bojack!
Very awesome!
Why this channel has only this much of subscribers? The quality of the video is very good, so I dont understand.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
I don't upload that often and I'm not that consistent with my content, either. But thanks for the praise!
@KordizLeono
3 жыл бұрын
Hunn understandable, but good work.
it reminds me of the cristal in the poster of no man's sky
@AssistantCoreAQI
3 жыл бұрын
That's ATLAS. Or God Himself. You Just Called God Himself A Crystal.
I have the exact same design and concept, it opens up all the same ways but it's rectangle.. I just classed it as my fully armored ship But what I didn't know is that it's can't be targeted when closed so thanks for that
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could tell you something new about your ship 🤓
So it turns out that great minds think alike because I've actually begun work on a station that uses that skin and has all of its systems, doors, and defenses hidden away inside using that very same skin. My seamless door even got pretty popular on the subreddit. It was there that people were asking if it uses vanilla cloaking, curious I looked it up and what do you know I found this video.
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
I think I saw your reddit post, funny that people mention it there. Will you upload it to the workshop? Curious to see what you come up with!
Put a tiny hole at the back to launch scripted guided missiles through and a tiny hole at the front for a camera to Lidar designate the enemy
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Genius!
Problem is, as soon as someone spots they can just take out one of the rotors and the shipmgets wrecked. And thats easy to do with a small ship because there are so many blinds spots where your ship cant defend itself, so as long as you are fighting sgainst actual players, i dont think its going to be effective
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
True. The uses are limited. But for a scout ship or something that would come in somewhere, hit hard and leave, this might work
Now if this thing would be also self-repairing and self-replicating i would think von Neuman would have had design inputs. (SotS)
Awesome 😎
I have already done this because of no man sky. More effective shape for visual is smooth ball. Did not notice cloaking ability.
ayyy i am your 500th sub
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Woooooo! Thanks! 😎😎😎
Cool design idea, however this design like some other simmilar ways of doing it aren't going to make it meta due to MAC's, Rotor cannons, lidar missiles or just dumb bombs will tear it apart for something as fragile as it is. It's a 'feature' which should be used in smaller forms to give ships extra protection with essential components such as power or life support that remain essential for a ship to be operational. If it's lost due to player made projectiles then it won't be as big of a deal as losing a panel of your cloaking device when you can't even intercept the player made projectiles with your own guns if they flank you. And for Hydrogen Men.. well, I think you get the idea what can go wrong with that lol. Don't let me discourage further R&D though! It be amazing if such systems were simple to install and make the ship retain its original aesthetic. Keep us informed! 😀
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah, this ship is highly impractical as it is. Even the thrusters damage the cloak. It's definitely nothing I'd do for a combat vessel, except as you said, to protect most important areas from Ai-Fire. But for scout-vessels, boarding-vessels or anything that needs to slip by undetected this could be vital.
Very Cool
Make a boarding torpedoe with this method and post it on the workshop
*screams geometrically*
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
M A T H E M A T I C A L
I used more simple version of that with glass even before laststand vid (i just sticked glass shield around my main ship), everyone just not trying to use it
...I’ll be borrowing this...
It's awesome
Would we be able to make a one of these except it’s a blue cube with a huge laser in the front? We could literally make Ramiel from evangelion
Lovely
This could be intresting to sneak up on npc's and safely infiltrate a ship
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I'm thinking!
@MightyAssa
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 There are still some questions. Does this still work with antenna set to on? How can i navigate a grindingdrone without third person? Some of lucas drones works with visual navigation if i remember correctly. This really add new possibilities. Thx, for that fellow space engineer 👍
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
@@MightyAssa Yeah, antennae are on in the video. That's how I'm de-activating the cloak. You technically could fly a grindingdrone without third person. It's just a bit more difficult, as you need cameras or view of the drone from the outside. You could potentially build a cloak screen out of glass planes, as well - since they are not terminal blocks. So in theory, you could have cameras looking through the cloak from the inside.
@MightyAssa
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 Pretty nifty! Time for some infiltrading missions :P
Well there's another one of the secret technology's I use exposed to the public 🤣
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
On... On the servers or in real life? 😳😳😳😳😳
@shadow6958
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 private projects and designs I've created for future use on servers with black carbon grid separated armor.
um dude, drop warheads with this in mind on a base and the turrets won't shoot it down
Dang now I really want to make a diamond shaped ship with no external features but I'm terrible at making things lmao😭
@antiloompa8338
Жыл бұрын
Just go for it bro, every creation you'll get better
@Slappy1q7
Жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 Thanks! I'll try it out tomorrow
You've gotta show us how to make this
@Antiloompa What if you made a version using one of those laser mods. And as soon as the seams open up, you see laser light being emitted along the seams, collecting in one lasercollector in the front where it shoots out?
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
That would be siiiiick!
I did this but never posted the blueprint. I also did stars wil lcd.. less vanilla friendly.
Is this also works in small grids? I've tried small grid but seems not working for me. I connected the armor block wall with only gear or rotor, and space pirates just shoot right through the armor.
The turrets tried to shoot the inner part but not the outer diamond? Sooo... I can cover vital areas in this armor to protect them from automatic targeting? :D
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
Why is there a black coloured Ethereum in the middle of space
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
I thought that's how you get rich
I would love to build this on the xbox severs
Maybe add some decoys, would probably help
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Well no, the point is that it's not supposed to be shot at 😉
@kons37flyingreaper41
3 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 yeah just in case when it opens :)
Set turrets to target neutrals.
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
They are. It's in the video.
@shufflergo1113
2 жыл бұрын
@@antiloompa8338 dude theres no way, then the turrets would start to shoot the black panels that cover the ship. Ive done some testing on my own and the ship is immediately targeted and shot at. Especially if the enemy craft or base is owned by a different faction. With neutral targeting enabled.
Holy shit thats huge
@bucketman7984
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a 4x4x2
@bucketman7984
2 жыл бұрын
This is ganna really help me make a working spacestatioan for my fleet
Does this still work? I’ve done testing with it and it doesn’t get locked, but I don’t know if manual locking stops that?
sims marker ship
@antiloompa8338
3 жыл бұрын
Should've made it green haha
add lasers make it ramiel
Wow
Does this still happen to work? I tried testing this on a small grid scale earlier by making a slap of glass and then light armor and then boxing the entire ship in armor like LSG but the turrets still seem to target me (set to target enemies but not neutral). Does it have to be large grid or did they patch it out?
@antiloompa8338
2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to test that