The cost of this failed firetruck should be deducted from the salaries of all the politicians who decided this was a good idea.

@R56TurboCharged

2 ай бұрын

Who do you think pays their salaries? 🤣🤣🤣

@gomahklawm4446

2 ай бұрын

@R56TurboCharged We do......hence why his comment make perfect sense.....

@user-oi1wi2sx5x

2 ай бұрын

3:07 of course in a perfect world we could vote out the fools who push this green nonsense

@petejohnson1724

2 ай бұрын

Its not the fault of politicians theyy are following the rules set by the world economic forum the un and these other non elected groups that governments sign up to

@R56TurboCharged

2 ай бұрын

@@gomahklawm4446 You realise they have their own financial income plus their salaries off the taxpayer? Usually own a lot of stocks too..... So why should their salaries pay for their mistakes? That is no punishment....taxpayer still pays for their mistake. They should RESIGN!

One assumes that it must have diesel engines to pump water no way will a battery one last. Who cares about emissions on a fire truck - the emissions from the toxic fires they attend make that irrelevant. What a joke.

@ladybug591

2 ай бұрын

The greater joke is that emissions are not a problem at all - the government's crony mates, making big money out of all this, are the problem.

@johngibson3837

2 ай бұрын

100 miles of range no way this will power the water pumps and like You've said the diesel used in a normal fire truck is nothing compared to pollution from a fire they put out. Not talking ov a BBQ gone wrong of course

@barrymills3156

2 ай бұрын

Just tow a diesel genny along.

@johngibson3837

2 ай бұрын

@@barrymills3156 I suppose they could just tow a trailer with a water tank and a diesel powered water pump, then again that's going to effect the range of fire truck, so maybe better to tow trailer with a diesel truck, hang on I've remembered there are companies that make these already thinking they call them fire engines

@jjrider6758

2 ай бұрын

Diesel fumes are the same whether they come from the road engine or some sort of diesel auxiliary power unit specifically for pumping.. As one of the claimed benefits of these EV Fire Appliances is that they supposedly stop the 'deadly' polluting Diesel fumes it can't have dedicated diesel-powered pump, rendering it absolutely useless for anything but the very smallest, short duration incidents.. As you quite rightly say, the fumes from a diesel powered Fire Appliance are going to have a negligible environmental impact at a large protracted fire.. Also, as a retired firefighter with over 20 years service I can confirm that water tank leaks are NOT common, especially not on NEW vehicles..

From a small town in upstate NY, the local school just received 2 EV school buses at $490k each with an expected range of 80 miles. We need to go back to one room school houses and bring back the Nuns as teachers and return their paddles

@Core-vu6mc

2 ай бұрын

I've got to imagine on a cold day that range won't be enough. I know I lived in a couple of places growing up where there were very long rural bus routes. I'm sure the range estimate doesn't consider a load of kids and the heat running at full blast.

@dashcamandy2242

2 ай бұрын

From a small town in southeastern CT, reading that has me scratching my head in disbelief! I can't help but wonder what that 80-mile range would be, once you factor in New England's hills - and our winters. With a busload of children. And some routes being down rural streets. It seems impractical; every time you start from a stop, a significant amount of current is needed, and I'm not sure there'd be enough regenerative braking happening to provide much assistance to the battery pack. At least, with a diesel bus, a half tank of gas, and two heater cores, if you get stuck somewhere, or if the vehicle suffers mechanical problems that don't disable the engine (flat tire, transmission failure, etc), you can keep the bus somewhat-warm. Electric bus? Might have to pray for a "battery event" to keep the kids warm while waiting for assistance, as electric heat takes additional power.

@bohunt8113

2 ай бұрын

80 miles? That barely covers the route for some small schools in Upstate NY, especially during winter when running a heater reduces the range.

@terrybaremor6361

2 ай бұрын

I would imagine that the EV’s would be used for the within 5 mile radius and parents would have to drive their kids outside of this range.

@smileychess

2 ай бұрын

@@terrybaremor6361- Or just use other buses for longer routes.

Thanks for providing news to us Canadians that our government doesnt want us to hear.

@TGGGlobalEmergencyResponses

2 ай бұрын

It’s a Canadian news article that was in the news in Canada… If you didn’t read it that’s your problem, isn’t it?

as a british columbian, we are constantly embarrassed by vancouver. bunch of clowns

@ECARTMANN

2 ай бұрын

Dont be - you have a great hockey team.

@user-it7lf7kk8m

2 ай бұрын

Bread and circuses , eh

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

and americans by Grandpa Biden...

@ExilSvensk

2 ай бұрын

State name should be changed to little china. Based on politics and demographics.

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

@@ExilSvensk Like the people's republic of California?

Trudeau has two roles in the EV circus - ringmaster and clown.

@user-vt5yd4od8m

2 ай бұрын

Flatterer 😊

@hoboonwheels9289

2 ай бұрын

Trudeau is a puppet not a master, as are all the clowns, UN is the master in most countries, since 1992.

@keegan773

2 ай бұрын

🤡 so he’s got the EV where the doors fall off in the ring.

@hlafrond965

2 ай бұрын

Leave off our Prime Minister. He does the work of three men. Curly, Larry and Moe.

@paulmyers7078

2 ай бұрын

@@hlafrond965 You forgot to mention Shemp!

Haha, what a surprise! My company's Ford lightning just had to have the battery replaced at 14k miles. How awesome to have a vehicle that is out of commission for 2 weeks that just over a year old!

@smileychess

2 ай бұрын

Did they say why? That’s not a common thing at such a low mileage.

@WebberAerialImaging

2 ай бұрын

@@smileychess failed control and a couple bad cells

@smileychess

2 ай бұрын

@@WebberAerialImaging - Weird and unusual, but thankfully it was under warranty. I can’t imagine wanting such a massive EV anyway. Why buy a pickup truck that can’t haul/tow for much distance? I guess around town it could work fine, but just seems like a bad use of company funds.

@WebberAerialImaging

2 ай бұрын

@@smileychess it was a demo that we got for a good price and we just use it to run around locally. To your point, it's kinda worthless as a truck.

@smileychess

2 ай бұрын

@@WebberAerialImaging - To be fair, at a good price, they can be a ton of fun. They have plenty of towing capacity, but it's just the range that suffers like crazy.

finally, getting the disrespect we deserve! i can't tell you just how delighted i am!

Call an emergency fire vehicle, there's an emergency fire vehicle on fire.

@garynew9637

2 ай бұрын

Haha

@Paulman50

2 ай бұрын

Or, sorry it's on charge.

@rogermoore8977

2 ай бұрын

That's funny. A fire truck on fire inside the firehouse and they can't put it out. Who can you call?

@arneminderman3770

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@luckyguy600

2 ай бұрын

Oh. We weren't banking on that scenario. Hmmm? We will get back to you on that.

“Phew, we made it to the fire, didn’t think we had enough charge left” “Turn on the pumps” “Bugger!”

@johnnieboy5381

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@robertmoffett3486

2 ай бұрын

Excellent point.

@mrradman2986

2 ай бұрын

They'll probably be looking for somewhere to plug it in. Presumably they can't use up too much of the battery charge as they then won't be able to get back to the fire station...

@mddell24

2 ай бұрын

Woke engineer user manual says: in this situation, simple deploy the 1000 sq meters of solar panel which should (hehehe) give you a half charge in 3 to 6 hours. You will need 3 backup trucks to carry the "solar panel pack". For this solution to be reliable we recommend diesel semi's

@jakefriesenjake

2 ай бұрын

​@@mddell24not 3 to 6 hours. I'll bet if the truck was plugged into a super charger, to get a half charge, would take 6 hours. On a solar panel, it would probably take 2 days to get a half charge! Solar panels are very slow

Bear in mind that driving to and from the scene is the SMALLEST task a fire pumper will be called upon to perform in an average run. Depending on configuration and intended role, a fire pumper may have to… *pump water (OF COURSE!). This is a VERY power hungry task to do all by itself, and you may be feeding MULTIPLE lines of varying diameter, from a 1 3/4″ attack line to a 2 1/2″ defensive line to a deck gun, and drawing all this water through a 6″ suction inlet that (again, depeding on the role) may be a HARD SUCTION that has to draw from a tank, resivour, or someone’s backyard pool and so doesn’t have any pressure pushing it IN. In a defensive posture, you may have MULTIPLE hand lines drawing several hundred GPM, and/or a deck gun drawing a couple THOUSAND GPM. If the fire is large, widespread, industrial, or has exposures on all sides, you may be there for HOURS just drawing water and throwing it on the adjacent buildings as well as into the fire that continues to burn in the involved structures. Those structures may or may not also contain a vehicle, maybe several vehicles, maybe BATTERY vehicles if it’s a factory with forklifts, maybe LPG vehicles, maybe a BIG tank of flammables somewhere inside or outside that is a CRITICAL exposure if you don’t want a catastropic BLEVE. And you want to trust a battery of unceratain and variable duration, epsecially in very hot or very cold weather and varying driving distances, with THAT?!? Good luck. *Run hydraulics for rescue tools (Rescue pumper configuration). The Jaws of Life, hydraulic shears, hydraulic rams, all are driven off a hydraulic pump. Hydraulic pumps pump at thousands of pounds of pressure. Thousands of pounds of pressure takes a lot of power. Power a battery that’s ALSO running a fire pump and other things may not have. Might make a car extracation interesting if they have to go to hand saws to cut you out. *Scene lighting. ANY fire truck is expected to provide SOME scene lighting, spotlights, floodlights, pole lights, etc., again for the ENTIRE duration of an incident. Granted that LEDs are not as energy hungry as the halogen bulbs of yore, but there’s STILL a SIGNIFICANT energy draw that you need THE WHOLE TIME, on TOP of the pump, the hydraulics, and the regular flashy revolvy lights and various and sundry noisemakers you use to get to the scene, AND the energy you lost GETTING to the scene, and you MIGHT want to be able to get back to charge your truck to be ready for the next emergency so you need some “Bingo Charge” number to assure you can get BACK from the scene, and given that this is a variable distance under variable conditions and variable loads, it’s pretty hard to put a number to this. *Auxilary power equipment. This is things like ventilation fans that can be the difference between saving a structure and saving a life or not because they can direct fire and smoke in the desired direction, hopefully away from unburned areas and/or dying people, as well as greatly improve the TRULY terrible visibility inside a building on fire. This sort of thing is often a corded appliance that plugs into a generator, but I’m not sure you would use your battery vehicle to drive a generator, but if your fans are 110 or 220, you would kinda HAVE to, on TOP of the pump, the hydraulics, and the regular flashy revolvy lights and various and sundry noisemakers you use to get to the scene, AND the energy you lost GETTING to the scene and the scene lighting and the need to be able to return to quarters for your special boy charger. …I’m leaving some things out, but also keep in mind you are dragging around tons of hose, tools, ladders, air tanks, guys, etc., ALL of which need to come BACK, as well as doing normal constant draw things like charging flashlights, powering radios, running AC or heat, keeping the dispatch computer and GPS live, and so forth, and maybe headlights would be nice? All of which has a CONSTANT power cost. And your job may not be done if your truck somehow keeps its charge through all THAT. Emergencies have this nasty tendency to be unscheduled, even inconvenient. So, your guys have got there, deployed, took everything off the truck, put wet on red, did the hot spots, helped in the investigation, walked the hoses, put them, the tools, the air tanks, and themselves back on the truck that by the grace of God still has enough power to get back to quarters…only to have the County call them out for a car fire that just started on the next block. Or they roll up on an unexpected flaming auto accident on the way back. It happens. This isn’t an issue with a diesel truck, but what do you do with your electric? Tell them “We can’t, not enough juice, wait for mutual aid”? Deploy your guys and hope their hose stream doesn’t die while they’re making an attack on something with an entrapped victim? Pray your lights don’t go out when your truck is blocking a highway? What to do, what to do… …and do you have enough time at quarters to recharge your truck before the child care center catches fire due to food on the stove? …guess we’ll find out… …Again, there’s a TON I’m leaving out here, but this should be enought to show how stupid an idea this is. Emergency vehicles are used for unscheduled emergencies under emergency conditions for however long the emergency lasts, and battery power just cannot be trusted for emeregencies. This is asinine and extremely dangerous, and should not be done. Full stop.

@evil17

2 ай бұрын

You didn’t mention water tanks at 1kg/litre capacity + tank weight, maybe this was a city based fires use case, but useless for rural bush fires where you dont have hydrants & bush fires can move faster than vehicles in the right conditions.

@mikeshaffer7673

2 ай бұрын

You are correct. I was spoiled by serving on a suburban department with easy access to hyrants and tanker shuttles, so we carried between 500 and 1500 gallons of water in the tank, depending on the apparatus. Thats at 8 pounds per gallon Imperial, 4000-12000 pounds or 2-6 short tons of water weight per unit. I talked to some rural FF though and they said they had what they carried unless there was a pond or swimming pooe, so they carried 5000 gallons per unit, 40,000 pounds, which is 20 short tons or 18 metric tons. Thats a lot of weight. On dinky propulsion you are gonna refill quick as you can so's your ready if you get called out on your way to quarters, but a chief with an EV unit may not want to until he gets back to extend the range. This means if the tones drop for a structure fire with entrapment while returning, the crew faces it with a depleted battery AND an empty water tank. Good luck with that. This WILL get someone killed, if it hasn't already, but Im not sure they'd tell us about if if it did. Here in the States our fake 'president' currently has a case before our Supreme Court where hes arguing that Government should be able to partner with social and other media to control what is said to we peasants, and the way the court is stacked he'll probably win. So if it DOES kill someone or a whole crew, well, its politically off-message so you cant know about it. My rural friends tell me they use ALL the water in a massive attack to try to blow the fire out like a birthday candle since they cant get more, but this isn't that subject so Ill leave it there. It takes a LOT of power to throw a LOT of water at once tho, so this tactic could be crippled by EV considerations as well, and thats a damn shame when FD tactics have to be shaped by pollitical virtue signalling instead of, you know, saving lives and surpressing fires the best way possible, but here we are...

Yes Simon this is a subject I have spoken about for a very long time and it not only involves fire trucks but also ambulances, police vehicles, SES vehicles and many other rescue service vehicles. It is simply madness when you think that they would even consider making electric bush fire trucks or any vehicles involved in any form of rescue in our remote rural areas for example when there would be no way of charging the wretched things when out in those remote locations. It cannot be too far into the future when some poor soul dies because of the capacity of a lithium ion battery.

The biggest problem we're up against is that people in government, both federal and local have absolutely no real life experience of anything, let alone anything technical or practical. These are the very people who can't find employment in the real world. They're the ones making bad decisions everyone else ends up paying for

@user-xq6me6pd7q

2 ай бұрын

Isn't that the truth and it is world wide too. They all sign up for the woke, brain dead, stupid, LGBTQ and moronic stuff on the first day but have to meet the dim criteria before they get to sign. Then with the green agenda they are frightened of dead polar bears and all the rest.

@derekbevan7145

2 ай бұрын

Most cannot find their own arse hole to wipe it either

@user-vt5yd4od8m

2 ай бұрын

The problem with modern governments with university educated politicians THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE INTELLIGENT 😂😂😂😂😂

@VHKDK

2 ай бұрын

Oh yes they do Paul. They are experienced at cheating, lying and stealing.

@garreysellars5525

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely nailed it 3000 percent 😅

" My house is on fire " " We're charging the truck , it will be an hour and a half 'til it's finished " "My house will be burned down by then " " Can you try to keep it alight 'til we get there . this thing cost fortune "

@58fins

2 ай бұрын

Maybe they will get to the scene, and borrow an extension cord?

@samueldavis5895

2 ай бұрын

You mean: “the truck broke down before making it to a single fire”

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

@@samueldavis5895 "No the battery died." OR even better "No the truck caught fire and we had to call in another EV Truck it's battery died which then we had to call in an EV Tow truck and then and then and then adn then, and so that's how we blocked the road with a bunch of EV's with dead batteries, BY the way we're offering a job to anyone who has an illegal diesel tow truck, and we will umm... delay your arrest for 24 hours.. But you'll still be fined the amount of the payment which means you'll earn nothing. Thanks you, Wait did I say all that i mean you'll be compensated..

@mikedavison3400

2 ай бұрын

😂

@leonardpoindexter5289

2 ай бұрын

That's funny😂

A diesel truck can sit on scene and function nonstop for days, being periodically fueled from 5 gallon cans. Having done this several times over my career, I'd love to know how the elec -trick version will pull this off.

@ronprice3112

2 ай бұрын

Maybe a very long extension cord to charge 😂

@solarissv777

26 күн бұрын

You know it has an onboard diesel generator?

@squiggymcsquig6170

26 күн бұрын

@@solarissv777 Yes, many (but not all) fire apparatus do have generators, and I have been curious as to whether or not a typical one would be capable of running a pump adequately for fireground operations (especially industrial or multi-story structures requiring multiple, longer lines and higher discharge pressures) while also providing for lights, communications, etc; keeping in mind that space on these vehicles is always at a premium, and the physical size of a truck-mounted generator has limitations. Could one feed multiple lines, be able to push enough water up an aerial ladder, provide water to a deluge gun all at the same time? I have been on scenes listening to my Detroit Diesels whine while the gauges on my pump panel tell me the hydrant has no more water to give and the pump is still not giving the hoses what they really should have. Never a good feeling when you start drawing a vacuum on the inlet gauge and have to cut back on discharge pressure to keep from collapsing the line from your hydrant while still getting enough water out of nozzles. Fire suppression takes a lot of energy, and that will never change as long as there are fires. Also, fully electric fire apparatus would not have the luxury of being able to wait any significant amount of time to be recharged if its batteries are flat after use, and I can only assume that batteries large enough for a fire engine would take significantly longer to charge than your average car. Getting a truck "back in service" as soon as possible after use is vital. Anyway, these are my thoughts, and I try to keep my mind open; but I have very serious doubts as to the real-world effectiveness/efficiency/safety of electric fire trucks.

@solarissv777

26 күн бұрын

@@squiggymcsquig6170 I has a built in generator based on a bmw diesel engine, it kicks in if batteries have less then 20% charge remaining. Moreover, AFAIK in case if electronics failure it can drive the pump directly (through the clutch), and the valves for different intakes/discharges can be also operated manually. This thing is in fact a series hybrid, and not a true electric vehicle, but politicians for some reason do not want to admit it.

Good morning. Always great videos and thank you. I did not even know they made a EV fire/emergency vehicles. I call that deadly.

Never mind if Labour get into office they are going to change all our diesel ambulances to EV’s, hugely expensive and with a range of 100 miles before needing charging. The stupidity of this policy is totally crazy

@theolderigetthewrongbitget4746

2 ай бұрын

Already happening, saw a NHS Scotland Paramedic Response car that was an EV.

@DavidJohnson-yg8qm

2 ай бұрын

And the cost, one thousand million pounds x 1000. I thought it would be better to put it that way instead of writing one trillion pounds. That is just for the UK. With inflation and the likes that figure is likely to be X 1000 too small in the end. Government estimates never seem to be accurate.

@ukusanz

2 ай бұрын

It’s actually 100 kilometres, that’s only 62.5 miles. Too bad if the fire was 65 miles away 😂

@peetsnort

2 ай бұрын

Ambulances are already crazy heavy vehicles. So additional 1000kg will need much bigger tyres

@MGUYTV

2 ай бұрын

Stay tuned for a video on that madness…

I wonder if an EV fire truck will be able to extinguish itself in the case of a thermal runaway

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

I bet 100 C-bills and 100 republic credits *NOPE*

@toddjohnson6809

2 ай бұрын

That's what the leaky tank was for. It can piss on itself.

@MGUYTV

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely - that’s the only benefit 😜

@aeroearth

2 ай бұрын

Not unless it has a 1,000 ton water tank...............

@omar15964

2 ай бұрын

The answer to that is NO..........the battery fire also burns underwater

If this fire truck is meant for downtown core then it will probably never drive more than 2km from the station. Most of the calls will be for responding to overdoses and other medical emergencies, which are the majority of their calls these days.

@bobcaygeon4533

2 ай бұрын

What’s your point. If they go to a fire, how long will that truck be able to pump water for? 10 minutes, 1/2 hour, 1 hour? A truck can be pumping water for hours on end at a major fire. I guess they can tow the truck out of the way when the batteries die and bring in another one. Do you see a problem?

@chip9177

2 ай бұрын

It is still very stupid.

Hello from Connecticut, USA! Always enjoy your common sense videos!

If a diesel fire truck sits in a garage waiting to be repaired, there will be no tailpipe emissions either

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile if a EV fire truck sits in a garage waiting to be repaired and the battery decides it's Hell day.... yeah I shouldn't need to explain that one.

First we had Monty Python, then Bottom, Father Ted and now we have...CANADA.

@rustykilt

2 ай бұрын

Hey, its happening everywhere.

@affintlewoodlewix

2 ай бұрын

I hasten to add Canadian government, not the Canadian people.

@melthebelgian.5837

2 ай бұрын

Never "yes minister" or yes "prime minister"

@markseehawer3762

2 ай бұрын

@@affintlewoodlewix i'm a western Canadian, I can tell you who voted these idiots in. It was eastern Canadian idiots. This is why the west should seperate, minus BC of course.

@luckyguy600

2 ай бұрын

Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread

Fire truck story: Detroit, Mi authorities decided to hold a "yard sale". All departments were to bring out stuff they never used. The Detroit Fire Department brought out a fire truck designed to be drawn by horses. Leat one bought before switch to engines. In perfect condition, never used. A collector bought it for $400,000 I think. Yes, changing technologies can create blooper purchases.

Thank you so much for these videos.

1.8 million? Really... Who the F ordered this? Keep the things that work.

@dwavenminer

2 ай бұрын

I wonder if that 1.8 mill includes the onboard equipment. (Those ladders aren't cheap)

@GreggWalken-xd3qv

2 ай бұрын

1.8 million. Most likely included is a few brown envelopes to be distributed proper

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

"If it ain't broke don't fix it." has become "If it works break it ,we'll worry about the reality of it later. the peasants don't matter"

@murmaider2

2 ай бұрын

firetrucks are expensive. A diesel powered firetruck can easily cost a million dollars.

@mikedavison3400

2 ай бұрын

@@murmaider2 Yeah but they work. Like even when it’s cold. Sheesh.

Honestly, Canada makes Australians look smart by comparison. And that is an incredibly low standard.

@gazzafloss

2 ай бұрын

😂 true....

@HaigEngineering

2 ай бұрын

Steady on you guys, at least half of us are smart, the other half vote Labor.😜😜

@TheZodiacz

2 ай бұрын

@@HaigEngineering and the really thick ones think there is any difference

@HaigEngineering

2 ай бұрын

@@TheZodiacz You are almost right, but come on, be serious, the idiots we have in charge at the moment are even making most of our usual party faithful Labor voter friends change to another party in the next election, and I don't necessarily mean LNP either. I'm not a lover of any them. I am sorry if I upset you.

@masterchiefburgess

2 ай бұрын

Particularly when you consider our country is even BIGGER, and our winter weather is much COLDER!

People don't realize how complicated EVs are. They're just told the motors have very few parts, but they don't know about all the other electronic and cooling systems to make it all work.

The term Firetruck always meant a truck that puts out fire's, now the Firetruck is the fire.

Funny you bring up a Canadian story. Today I was at Banff, and for some odd reason outside the gondola, I was having a conversation with Bus Driver who shuttles skiers & tourists from Edmonton to various places through Jasper and Banff. He told me his employer had one Electric bus in its fleet for under a month and returned it. And that was the end of the company’s experiment of electric buses. Something interesting I learned from him was that the luggage storage was greatly reduced to make way for the batteries.

@davewatson2124

2 ай бұрын

They could get even bigger batteries for more range if they dispensed with the passengers.

@gazzafloss

2 ай бұрын

It'll be fine all of the EV buses can be re-purposed into mobile Crematoriums, be able to do 60 at a time.

@hoboonwheels9289

2 ай бұрын

I did my research in 2018 and not being a city dweller determined EV wouldn't work for me.

@markseehawer3762

2 ай бұрын

@@hoboonwheels9289 EV's don't work for anybody.

@susanstewart1402

2 ай бұрын

@@davewatson2124 Classic environmental zealot "logic".

On Joe Bidens first day as POTUS I remember a bunch of EV contracts and stocks being signed by the upper echelon of Democrats. I always say, follow the money as to why certain agendas are forced upon the respective societies

@gxyperiagxyperia7244

2 ай бұрын

Perhaps you could look at electric utilities, PG&E in particular, which is owned by .. rot shield . By the way search for "newsom pg&e" .

@bobmitchell8012

2 ай бұрын

They will be ABSOLUTELY On the Take.....Remember the Biden Family Motto “Quid Pro Quo”.

@vendomnu

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, Paul Pelosi made a killing on Tesla stocks - I remember that.

@user-vj9qh7qg3l

2 ай бұрын

Same with Blackout Bowen

@BradKwfc

2 ай бұрын

At this point it almost resembles a form of money laundering.

Your content rocks bro! keep going

As a former firefighter 297 ACT FIRE BRIGADE, water, fire, electricity and huge lithium batteries can, NOT A GOOD MIX

A range of about 100km !!! Does that include the running of the pumps and ancillary systems that a fire truck would need I wonder ??

@adambased7928

2 ай бұрын

Good point

@tonysheerness2427

2 ай бұрын

The 100 km range was achieve with empty water tanks, the rescue ladder removed and only the driver when they were measuring the range.

@TheRealDrJoey

2 ай бұрын

It's absurd.

@davidclemens1578

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully the pumps are diesel.

@willrobbinson

2 ай бұрын

VERY good point

Water and high voltage electricity, I remember having seen somewhere that this combination is not a good one.

@davidwilhelm7466

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget it's DC (direct current), which is even deadlier with water.

@tedmoss

2 ай бұрын

@@davidwilhelm7466 Why would DC be more deadly than AC? Edison said it was the other way around (and he was wrong also).

@mikedavison3400

2 ай бұрын

@@tedmoss Tesla (Nikola and not the car) was right and Edison was flat out wrong.

@johnbednarcik9359

2 ай бұрын

lol yeah you could have a real shocking experience.

@pfyearwood1

Ай бұрын

It's not the electricity, it's the LI Ion battery that will burn when wet or overheated.

To be fair, Rosenbauer probably make the world's best fire appliances. Their electric appliances, which have now been manufactured for a few years and are used in many European countries as well as the USA and now Canberra, are very reliable. The problems have been mainly with the pumping and water systems, not the electric motors or components. It is wrong to call out problems where they do not exist.

Oh you have no idea how delighted we are!

Where are the councils and local governments getting all the money to buy all this stuff? Wasn't long ago they could not afford to keep and maintain their ancient fleet of vehicles. How can you have a fire truck made with a fire bomb that can explode if the battery gets wet or too hot?

@robg521

2 ай бұрын

Many years ago there was a documentary about an English council who brought in a private consultant to resolve problems over their failing rubbish bin collection service. He looked at how they ran the service and interviewed the staff, and the problem was their fleet of trucks were old and failing ‘which the staff had been complaining to their managers about for many years’, [every week 1 or 2 truck would be off the road in the repair shop so the staff were working extra hrs and overtime and putting extra strain on the other remaining trucks to take on the extra work loads] At the end of the programme It then turned out that the consultant’s salary was the same costs as purchasing 2 brand new bin lorries. So the staff had warned them that the lorries were so old they were repeatedly breaking down and needed replacing. Instead of buying new lorries they spent the money to employ someone to look at the problem, [who diagnosed exactly what the staff had been saying, “you need new trucks”] So now where is the money to buy the trucks going to come from to resolve the problem ?

@hoboonwheels9289

2 ай бұрын

They printed the money, we used to have laws preventing that, before UN was installed as the unelected head of government worldwide.

@StofStuiver

2 ай бұрын

Theres been an awfull lot of 'money' (its not actually money, but fiat currency) created in the last ~20 years. For the US for instance, more than 12 times what previously existed totalled. Hence, inflation. Its basically theft and its crashing the financial systems all over the west (and beyond, as a number of other countries were forced to go along)

@masterchiefburgess

2 ай бұрын

I'm sure they would have received some federal funding from our woke virtual signalling government.

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 ай бұрын

spoiler: They don't they just print more money to further devalue their currency.

When one thinks about a Firetruck or any emergency service vehicle, it doesn't take very long to realize that driving to the scene of something like a fire, is not the only thing a vehicle has to do. It has to have flashing emergency lights and a siren during the trip. It has to have lights on at the scene. It has to operate water pumps and it could easily be required to do this for many hours or even days for a single event. In the recent past, Canada had huge brush fires that went on for months. How would an EV firetruck cope with demands like that using only lithium battery packs regardless of weather and rate of demand for power? An EV firetruck would also have to monitor how much power it has remaining so it has enough to get back to the charging station. Does anyone know how these EV firetrucks work? Do they also have fossil fuel powered generators and pumps? If they do, then having them use batteries for mobility makes even less sense.

@grahamejohn6847

2 ай бұрын

They will probably have to tow a portable diesel generator

@Shiplap4

2 ай бұрын

Common sense isn’t so common these days .

@darkwood777

2 ай бұрын

It will be solar powered. LOL

@WolfGamerBohumin

2 ай бұрын

@@darkwood777 Nah, they will use a thermopile and convert heat of the fire to electricity.

@antilogism

2 ай бұрын

Likely attened by moble fuel truck. Now they'll need a fleet of trucks with Carterpillar gennies----and that fuel truck.

The battery on electric fire trucks here is “window dressing”. A good size diesel generator “range extender” dies most of the heavy work long term. Most fire trucks are hand assembled from pre made subassemblies like axles, engines, pumps, transfer cases, transmissions. Thus they often fail in the first months. I was a paid on call fire fighter first 12 years. In the two departments I was a part of new deliveries were “trialed”, trained with and tested heavily before entering service. Typical example of early failures, on a new delivery truck the parking brake release air line was wrongly routed through a suspension pinch point. Going down the road that air line was severed, parking brakes came on and system air pressure dropped. We halted on the side of the road and called the department’s mobile mechanic. It was about a 15 minute fix.

"It can go 100 miles on a single charge" BUT How long can it PUMP WATER?

@teolynx3805

2 ай бұрын

I think there are hand pumps available otherwise it's useless 😂

@waltercoslovi6404

2 ай бұрын

Well it will get to the fire and fire up its diesel generator to run the pump and maybe charge the battery while doing it.

@robertmoffett3486

2 ай бұрын

100k, not miles. 60 miles. They claim. Has ANY EV producer or seller not exaggerated their true range? So it's less. If not, it will be soon. They'd better carry buckets on it

@suecharnock9369

2 ай бұрын

Not 100 miles, a100km! Less than 100 miles!

@gomahklawm4446

2 ай бұрын

100 with empty tanks, nonladder/equipment, and 1 driver, not a full crew....

The UK government are trying to force an all EV Ambulance service , what could possibly go wrong with that idea ?!

@naphackDT

2 ай бұрын

Ambulance is not nearly as bad as firetruck. Since you are gonna have to clean out the vehicle after most trips anyway, you can just charge it while you are doing that. Also, it's mostly driving and while the vehicle does have quite some weight to it, it's not that heavy. If you really wanted to do it, you could, it's just that there isn't much reason as it would be way more economical to stick to diesel. Now, firetrucks, on the other hand, are a complete nonstarter. You have to haul around way more mass, like at least a cubic meter of water, for starters, and once you are on site, you have to power all the pumps with your batteries, which will quickly run out if it's a longer operation. Also, the additional mass of the batteries might push your vehicle against certain mass limits, making it impossible to cross certain bridges. Vehicles are usually optimized to meet certain thresholds and since they can't really reduce the equipment carried by the vehicle, they are definitely gonna have a heavier vehicle.

@dashcamandy2242

2 ай бұрын

"Sir, we're gonna need you to plug your pacemaker into the charging port..." 🤣

@victormontes7007

2 ай бұрын

They are going to have IEDs with random timers remember hover board batteries and EV vehicle fires

@jeffolley2712

2 ай бұрын

@@dashcamandy2242 Or maybe oops just plugged the patient into charge station by mistake do not know why his pacemaker stopped 🤔🤔

@John-kr7iz

2 ай бұрын

Probably the same thing as Scotland when they spent millions on EV police cars and forgot to order the chargers to go with them, they soon figured out that running a extension cord out the window wasn't going to cut it

I wonder what the council persons got as a kick back . A nice little Christmas bonus I bet

Most have no idea how Fire Trucks operate. Pumpers rely on the deisel engines to power the water pumps at fire, and they have to run at high rpm for long periods of time in order to keep the pressure up. EVs simply cannot do this.

They called 911, and when the operator asked which do you need, police, ambulance or fire department, the caller realized that he would be calling himself and hung up.

what sort of fire truck will they use when the EV fire truck self immolates in the fire station whilst on charge?

@evil17

2 ай бұрын

And wipes out the whole fleet & the fire station with it, how much is one of these 1.8 million dollar fire balls cost the tax payer then?

We now have EV ambulances just rolled out in the UK !

@evil17

2 ай бұрын

Oh yay, MGUY’s next topic of political stupidity.

Great video

In my city the local police is using the renault zoe ev version as a patroling car (like you are gonna be able to chase someone in that thing), problem is after 10 months some started to have problems, every single one of them costed as much as 3 of the prevoius cars they had and every broken one had a battery replacement service for 10k+ each. Those things can't even put the siren at full volume cause it depleates the battery too quickly, we live in a joke right now. Oh yeah, they also went for ev busses and they decided to reduce the number of loops around the city cause they can't make more then a few before they have to charge them, so instead of finding a decent solution (cause it would have meant to buy way more busses then normal), they reduced the number of runs. GG govs, that's why people love you

@tedmoss

2 ай бұрын

You really should'a bought a Tesla.

@kathyyoung1774

2 ай бұрын

Quit voting for leftist politicians who do this nonsense.

@user-wm3bf7pi3u

2 ай бұрын

On the upside the Edsel is no longer the biggest joke in automotive history.

@kathyyoung1774

2 ай бұрын

@@user-wm3bf7pi3u TRUE! TRUE! TRUE!

"Help! My house is on fire!" "Sorry sir, currently putting out the fireEV, which is on fire. The second unit is currently charging"

I hear comments help do... Well done mate keep the content coming

As a Canadian I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said. Our federal goverment has no basis in reality

Fire engines used to drive out to a fire and be used to put them out. Now we have become so much more efficient that the fire truck can be the source of the fire and it can do it at the fire station so the fire fighters dont have to even travel anywhere to attend the fire.

@laurieparker-stuart868

2 ай бұрын

Very good point!

@chasleask8533

2 ай бұрын

Now that's progress .

@vilemerchant

2 ай бұрын

love it LMAO

@markusgorelli5278

2 ай бұрын

A different take on work-from-home. lol.

A range of a whole 100kms. Once on site at a fire,does the vehicles main battery power all the pumping equipment and spotlights,ladders ? The whole thing might give up the ghost while actually fighting the fire. Then it has to get u home as well

@gomahklawm4446

2 ай бұрын

That range was with empty tanks.....and one driver, not a full crew. What a WASTE of money.....

@davewatson2124

2 ай бұрын

Perhaps they could send a Diesel Tow Truck that doubles as a fire truck.

@roschanvargonay9820

2 ай бұрын

@@davewatson2124Yes! And with every EV fire truck you should get such a „range extender truck“ on top.

@stevengriffin7873

2 ай бұрын

@@gomahklawm4446That's what I hate MOST about the ev circus is the absolute DISHONESTY that goes with them.

I recently saw a comment comparing EVs to cheap appliances. It's sometimes cheaper to just buy a new one when it breaks

I can’t imagine the water truck having an electrical fire problem itself, causing things around it to burst into flames and the inability to use the water in the vehicle to douse the resulting inferno. For six hours. Never mind the poisonous black smoke.

Absolutely ridiculous, they should be held accountable, vote them out!

@kaptainwarp

2 ай бұрын

They should be held a LOT more accountable than that!

It could become an interesting experiment in fighting fire with fire with a fire truck on fire.

A fire truck uses the big diesel to pump the water at an increased pressure. The trucks also often carry water, maxing out the weight of the truck. So a huge battery would negate the water with is often needed when water isn't available. Think rural areas.

Totally AGREE about ! Not only about emergency vehicles being EV'd, but EV's in general. Imagine an ambulance racing to a hospital with a patient suffering possible heart attack and THEN? "Sorry Mate! We need to charge the battery! We're running out of juice!"

The Rosenbauer electric fire truck has a 300 bhp "auxiliary" diesel engine to drive the fire pump or the truck when the batteries are flat.

@geoffhodgson2201

2 ай бұрын

So it's not an ev after all

@davidt3705

2 ай бұрын

Yes it is for the green loons but no it is not for the realists@@geoffhodgson2201

@58fins

2 ай бұрын

LOL!!

@rogerlishman2532

2 ай бұрын

Just spotted that on the manufacturer's website. Whew, what a relief! So all is well after all.

@happyrecluse2849

2 ай бұрын

Ahh so it's a hybrid....That's misleading I sense. What the heck is the point. Batteries to hit the coffee shop on way back to station i suspect

Ev emergency vehicles OMG what next

@alexstrellner8386

2 ай бұрын

Cant say, they already made EV Tanks.

@LKDesign

2 ай бұрын

Planes? I hear Boeing is quite willing to experiment these days.

@PorscheRacer14

2 ай бұрын

Electric tour helicopters.

@aeroearth

2 ай бұрын

How about rubber band back up power in case the battery goes flat..........

@TheZodiacz

2 ай бұрын

According to Donovan: Electrical banana Is gonna be a sudden craze Electrical banana Is bound to be the very next phase😂🍌

I'm a Canadian, and I'm sad to say, I live 105 kms. from Vancouver. I was sooo looking forward to see that new truck put out the fires in our homeless camps.

As a veteran firefighter I can say I have never heard of water tank issues on a new fire engine. The ev cannot sustain extended pump times like a diesel. I heard it does 2 hrs max. Maybe the companion truck will be a Hugh diesel generator that follows the event around .

100 KLM on a single charge, just don't burn on a cold Canadian winters day or night! This purchase was idiot blessed from behind a golden desk, not a hose, a ladder, or a fire pole in sight. Just the group of folks that know so much more than the rest of us!

@markadler8968

2 ай бұрын

It it says it has a 100KM range you can believe it is half of that in real world conditions.

"It can go 100kms on a single charge!" but then needs 6 hours to charge itself somewhere in order to get back to the station. One it gets back to the station it will need another 6 hours to get ready for another call out.

@abpsd73

2 ай бұрын

That 100km quoted range is probably for "normal" driving too, no consideration that in an emergency it will be driven balls out, no regenerative braking as the air brakes slam at every stop sign or red light, and back onto hard acceleration.

ty

Not to mention a leaking water tank and Lithium batteries are a great combination.

The new Soviet styled Canada is constantly finding new depressing ways to help you shuffle off this mortal coil. What a time to be alive, oops I mean dead, I can't keep up!

@JB-yb4wn

2 ай бұрын

Despite your idiotic comment, Canada is still one of the most desirable places to live on the planet. Vancouver, in particular, ranks in the top 5 cities to live in. Canadians have a tendency to not shoot up our school children, nor do we allow every brain dead idiot some god-given right to own a semi automatic assault rifle. We are funny that way.

@MrOnemanop

2 ай бұрын

Soviet style Canada? Sure buddy.

@JB-yb4wn

2 ай бұрын

Yes comrade. The Great, Glorious Peoples Republic of Canada is higher on the freedom index than the US. Go figure.

@NoobTamer

2 ай бұрын

@@MrOnemanop What type of boot is your favorite to lick?

@MrOnemanop

2 ай бұрын

@@NoobTamer your mom’s. She seems to like my company.

In the uk they have a “back up “ V6 petrol engine which in reality will be essential to keep pumping water over extended periods.

Recently I read an article here in Alberta, Canada concerning electric transit buses. Several years ago when I was living in Edmonton , the city was piloting some BYD electric transit buses. They were satisfied with their shorter route performance, so they purchased several more. Since then, which I am quite sure that there was a lot of political pressure from the US government, it was decided to purchase a much larger number of US made electric buses. These buses turned out to be nothing but junk and within a very short period of time more than half of the busses have broken down and are out of service with availability of replacement parts being a big concern. The city recently filed an $82 M claim against the manufacturer, Proterra, which is going bankrupt and facing a list of nearly 1300 claims against them. It is hard to fathom the level of incompetence.

Right up there with Edmonton purchasing a bunch of EV transit buses, half of the 60 that were delivered are down for repairs, and the bus manufacture has gone bankrupt.

911, what is your emergency? my house is on fire. okay sir, you'll have to be patient, our firetruck is currently charging

The building is burning and blasting fumes while firefigters just watch as their electric fire truck ran out of power.

@leeroberts1192

2 ай бұрын

Or does the fire truck battery go into thermal runaway and set alight one or more other buildings in addition to the one that was already on fire?

@picobyte

2 ай бұрын

@@leeroberts1192 The flammable fire truck arrived.. Juhh add it to the rest of the fire..

I think you could probably run ALL firetrucks in Canada for a year, with the amount of fuel trudeau goes through on his numerous annual holidays!

Well….’delighted’ isn’t exactly the word that I’d use. Perish the thought of having two(2) house fires/car accidents/grass fires to respond to while the truck was getting recharged. Question…how long will the pumps, emergency lights and sirens survive when actually travelling to and fighting a fire? Do they have a back-up (gas operated) generator to plug the truck into when the battery croaks? Lots of different scenarios to think about.

I'm a volunteer in an emergency service (rural area) and we've had to go to an emergency about 100km from our base. In an electric truck weighing over 8 tonnes and climbing a mountain I don't think we would've got there in the first place and if we had we certainly wouldn't be able to get back without having to charge. Oh did I mention that it was snowing.

@BinkyTheElf1

2 ай бұрын

Range dropping.. dropping.. dropping… 34 kilometres on one charge!

@emilcost8613

2 ай бұрын

Now there you go again... over exaggerating the range. We all know the real numbers are in single digits. Usually an origin and destination are not both down hill with a tail wind. @@BinkyTheElf1

@guillaumepare9651

2 ай бұрын

Then an EV firetruck is not for you as of now. It's not because it doesn't fit your needs that is fits zero fire stations.

@sammyjimsmith6100

2 ай бұрын

For 110 mile trip they would send out two ambulances. One would go pick up the patient and return 20 miles, then the patient would be transferred to the second for the remainder of the trip to the hospital. Then they would send out a diesel tow truck to bring back the first ambulance. I'm not even a government employee and I thought this up by myself.

The problem is not the leak. Or perhaps even the delay in it being off the road. That's seemingly unrelated to it being an EV. The problem is the cost, and the apparent deficiencies in performing its core role.

@58fins

2 ай бұрын

Leave it to politicians to spend the taxpayer dollar and not really give a damn if it is a wise move!

@happyrecluse2849

2 ай бұрын

Just the beginning of the end...

BTW, it’s a lot less expensive than they stated for the cost of a diesel fire engine. They are less than half of the quoted price of the electrified heap. As a retired firefighter, I can tell you that fire engines typically set on scene for extended periods of time pumping water, flashing light and generators running, etc., sometimes for hours. No way that EV pumper is a good idea.

Car rentals companies have discovered the same thing including extremely low resale prices , Just ask Hurt’s.

We all know that water and electricity get on together like a house on fire!😂😅

100km range! I can just imagine how great that would be for Rural and Country Fire Brigades and SES units in Australia where units often travel long distances, including at times interstate. "Sorry need to stop and recharge for 20-40 minutes". Meanwhile the Diesel and Petrol units go another 500km before stopping to spend 10 minutes refueling.

@kathyyoung1774

2 ай бұрын

Figure an actual 50km range since it has to get back to the station.

@sammyjimsmith6100

2 ай бұрын

They could carry generators with them. Even better generators powered by the batteries, or solar panels. Something bad is in the drinking water, I think.

@kathyyoung1774

2 ай бұрын

@@sammyjimsmith6100 Solar panels aren't any use at night, and it would take a HUGE array of them to be useful in the daytime. The generators powered by batteries would run down fast. That means more batteries, more strip mining of lithium by children in Asia. This is putting layer upon layer of "rescues" on top of a system that doesn't work well. Diesel fire engines run really, really well and efficiently. They do not need to be replaced.

You summed it up with the Fire Chief being a "Karen" Fry!

How long can the batteries last while fighting fire big difference from just running down the road

And i bet they have massive diesel generators charging them when not in service.

Some of the Green Godess auxilliary vehicles are still in service in some countries 70 years after they were made.

@terencejay8845

2 ай бұрын

Many years ago in the UK we had the Green Goddess fire engines on the street a few times during the firemen's strikes.

Saving the environment is apparently a higher priority than saving the citizens of Vancouver. I would think the smoke from the fires they fail to extinguish, because the trucks can't get there, is worse than the exhaust the older trucks would have produced.

I'm in Canada, I got a bonus for being an extremely hard worker for my company. The federal gov took 44% of it in tax because bonuses somehow grant them more. They take so much tax they can just be irresponsible with how they spent. That fire truck is a great example.

It's been a while since I read any headline referencing Canada, in which a good or sensible process or decision took place. They have fallen off a cliff.

Considering it was a leak in the water tank, the same fault would have sidelined a diesel fire truck so in this one instance I'm not sure it's fair to point the finger at it being an electric fire engine.

@stephenw2992

2 ай бұрын

If they cant even get old tech like a tank manufactured correctly then what is the rest of it like? Also leaking water is not good where high voltages are present.

@evil17

2 ай бұрын

@@stephenw2992I would disagree with your second statement, but I can’t because of ur first statement.

The electric bit is just for fun. The real deal is the BMW, 300 bhp, six cylinder diesel unit providing auxiliary power. Read primary for auxiliary.

Is the pump electric, how long does it run on a charge.

A water tank in a fire truck? Who would have expected that?

@ukusanz

2 ай бұрын

Water and electricity don’t mix 🔥 ⚡️

That water leak was a design feature and was there to keep the battery cool, or to help control the inevitable battery meltdown.. When people think if a Fire Truck they normally think of a truck that puts fires out, not to actually start the fires..

I’m glad they are saving all those diesel fumes from the truck even though it’s letting all the smoke from the fires it can’t respond to into the atmosphere.

Fire service is paid for by residents of the city of Vancouver via property taxes. Vancouver city has a history of weird stuff like bike lanes no one uses in the downtown and planting a grass roof on the convention center. Fortunately, metro Vancouver doesn't share a lot of stuff, the main exception being transit.

You watching this Chris Bowen?

@grahamejohn6847

2 ай бұрын

Don't be silly there's nothing between his ears to retain the memory

@aeroearth

2 ай бұрын

Nope. As the No. 1 Saleperson for the Chinese solar cells,, wind turbines and giant self immolating lithium batteries, he's on the phone to China............

In the uk the NHS plan is to implement electric ambulances 🚑

@gordy4459

2 ай бұрын

Saw an article on that last night...the EV ambulance has an average range of 77 miles between charges at a top speed of 56mph....Great!!....

@zitzong

2 ай бұрын

@@gordy4459 the electric vechicle madness continues…

@gordy4459

2 ай бұрын

@@zitzong It sure does....

So it can go 100 km to a fire. Can it still pump water from the leaky tank to put the fire? Or from a pond or hydrant after it gets there? So who is going to tow it home? Will it be able to raise or lower its ladder without power when it runs out? Or will the guy get stuck holding an empty hose on a fully extended ladder surrounded by flames? There better be some manual controls and gears for safety for the firefighters.

Craigslist love how they keep saying their environmentally friendly is there a strip mining everything and then when one catches fire it burns for days and the water that they use approximately 100,000 gallons or more is all toxic waste now

Imagine it catches on fire and they can not put it out or God forbid they dye in their sleeps.

@robotnoir5299

2 ай бұрын

I know it's trivial, but I think you mean "die". "Dye" is how you change your hair color.

@patrickbuick5459

2 ай бұрын

​@@robotnoir5299Green from envy to red with anger?

@JB-yb4wn

2 ай бұрын

Well that's why it's called a fire engine.