Yes, I know Eddie has played bass on other songs.

@vernonhill7438

4 жыл бұрын

I gotta say bro, I did like "A Year To The Day", probably the ONLY track I liked.

@sykora4417

3 жыл бұрын

(Sorry if anyone has said this below) I thought he played bass on Hagar's "I Never Said Goodbye" CD

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@sykora4417 Literally what I just said above, bruh...

@sykora4417

3 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews Sorry, I thought you were referencing other VH albums - Great review, sir!

@RememberTheGreatsSports

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I listened to a great interview Eddie did with the Smithsonian of all places and he actually mentions he started out playing bass with his Father (and brother) on a cruise ship, so the legendary EVH actually was a bass player before anything else. Check out the interview it is worth listening to : kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5ZmmKZxkqXAcps.html

David Lee Roth's lyricism is criminally underrated. Dude knows how to spin a yarn in verse.

@zzDarkwingDuck

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of times he does, but sometimes, you get "40 below"

@drlarrymitchell

3 жыл бұрын

A peroxided Mark Twain.

@shapeloomis9975

3 жыл бұрын

With Roth...Van Halen just seemed like they were having fun and they were hungry to make great music. With Hagar...it turned into a lot of love songs. I cannot listen to "Can't Stop Loving You." ugh...I was like, "No! NO! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" The Roth era was just bad ass..."Somebody Get Me A Doctor," "Ain't Talking About Love," "Mean Streets," and I could go on and on. Roth era is PURE GOLD!!!

@TeleCarlitos

3 жыл бұрын

DLR's capabilities as a singer and writer were very limiting to VH's sound and range. I love the albums but I am certain VH were capable of much more. They proved it later. I loved DLR back then. Now I just see we all ate the charisma and bravado and thought it was talent. He is entertaining, but a one trick pony. He was what every dude back then wished they were.

@Vichedges

3 жыл бұрын

What I like about DLR era VH is how funny a lot of the songs are. Little lines like "look I'll pay you for it" or "I don't feel tardy" or "one break coming up" etc.

R.I.P. to the legendary Eddie Van Halen, 1955-2020.

@Flamestar320

3 жыл бұрын

Very sad day in the history of music.

@adammusa982

3 жыл бұрын

Just, heard about it now...

@BusinessZeus

3 жыл бұрын

Was talking about this album yesterday, knew about what Van Halen was yesterday and he died that day. I feel like I killed him with spiritual garbage! I knew about "Jump" since I was six but never knew who made it. And no I won't say VH3 killed Eddy. Also this is a better review than Todds

@berniefunk3840

3 жыл бұрын

@@BusinessZeus probably because Todd only really reviewed one song instead of the whole album. But at least he actually knew where the album cover came from.

@trevor-johnsen

Жыл бұрын

​@@BusinessZeus interesting comment that VH3 killed Eddie through, metaphorically it's failure probably killed Eddie's hopes of staying relevant as a (popular) musician. The "best of both worlds" tunes and "a different kind of truth" don't have the fire an artist burns with to top their previous acclaimed works.

"You know you're semi good looking."-Most epic rock-n-roll lyric in rock history. I will always be partial to the Roth era.

@atlasking6110

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Right up there with "We got no class, and we got no principles - we can't even think of a word that rhymes!"

The answer is "Yes" but the live performances of the classics with Gary are proof enough that he wasn't the problem.

@enockopolot3928

Жыл бұрын

very true

@davidnissim589

Жыл бұрын

True. Gary really can sing

@the.communist

Жыл бұрын

I love van halen lll

@asnark7115

Жыл бұрын

@@davidnissim589 Not on his VH album, though. He did nothing but screech like an owl on most of the songs.

@robjgolde3221

2 ай бұрын

@@asnark7115yeah, thank god they had the sense to play songs like Without You in a different key so they could preserve Gary’s voice.

Fair warning is definitely one of the van Halen‘s best albums.

@tomsawyer5736

3 жыл бұрын

THE Best

@bodhisattva3774

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you. Much better than 1984 IMO and their heaviest.

@Star_Sn1per

3 жыл бұрын

3rd best album imo

@evhfan5150

3 жыл бұрын

I still think VH1 is their best but Fair Warning is a very close second as a guitar players album.

@sizzlechest69

3 жыл бұрын

@@Star_Sn1per What are your top two?

Eddie played bass on Hagar’s “I Never Said Goodbye” album in the late 80’s.

@ciadella1971

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I thought the same thing when he said Eddie had no bass playing credits.

@THSReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I literally addressed this already in the pinned comment and _two_ of my other videos. You do not need to keep telling me. I already know.

Gary Cherone was NOT the problem with this bland album. And he wasn’t trying to sound like VH predecessors, he just sounds like Gary

@vincentsimon4037

3 жыл бұрын

Totally disagree with Gary's voice not mimicking Dave and Sammy's. It was too obvious! The ultimate problem was and has always been Eddie!

@pru5929

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentsimon4037 he sounds exactly the same as did on any Extreme album

@Mikkall

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentsimon4037 Noting Van Halen never would have gotten off the ground if it weren't for Eddie, of course.

@rockervolt9177

3 жыл бұрын

Was not the problem for YOU. As always in Music, it's more a matter of taste for the listener than a evidence for everyone. For you it worked, for me it was a big meh

@dexta32084

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with this comment 100%. But his vocals were mixed differently on VHIII-they’re dry. At least Pornograffitti has some reverb to make the production sound full an bombastic, and not like a band from the 80’s sound relevant in the 90’s with a new clean sound.

Extreme is one of the most underrated bands ever. They get pigeon holded due to More Than Words. They serious rock. III Sides to Every Story is one of the greatest albums of all time.

@evanoglesby9504

10 ай бұрын

Something that is milquetoast can never be labeled “underrated”. Just stop.

@danielpatternson6149

4 ай бұрын

@@evanoglesby9504you really should listen to III Sides bud, that's a great album

Again: A vocalist in a wrong band despite good potential.

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there are other good examples for this. I feel like some might argue that Hagar is one of these, though I would disagree.

@TheDrumlineguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews Motley Crue during that year with John Corabi.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDrumlineguy Now _there's_ a possible future review...

@TraceeRae

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDrumlineguy actually In my opinion, I never listen to the MC with Corabi, but over the years I kept hearing from MC fans and some not so fans, that the MC/Corabi wasnt a bad album, Me being a MC/Neil fan, I did not want to hear anything from MC without Neil, Well I got older and more open minded and I decided to give it listen, and too my surprise it was'nt a bad album. Another bad that came out with a great album without the original singer, was Skid Row without Bach. The Skid Row album with Johnny Solinger, was a great album, Most fans didnt want to hear Skid Row without Bach and didnt give Johnny Solinger a chance, Skid Row, should of maybe changed their name and maybe they would of gotten better reception, But if you havent listened to this album, and not listen to it expecting old school Skid Row, you will be pleasantly surprised.

It was Roth that wanted to do all the covers on Diver Down. From a guitarist perspective, which I am, Fair Warning is their best album with DLR. It’s the heaviest guitar sound and Eddie’s riffs and solos were just furiously sick!

@shapeloomis9975

3 жыл бұрын

I think Diver Down gets a lot of hate, but I love it. Little Guitars alone is worth a listen. Fair Warning is incredible!!! It was definitely the most different album they did with Roth. The opening to Mean Streets is still one of the best riff and intros I've ever heard in a song.

@ryankibler7973

3 жыл бұрын

A different kind of truth is harder. Some very unique riffs (Honeybabysweetiedoll and As is are insane tracks) Fair Warning has a lot of funk if you ask me. Great album though.

@austindolan7182

3 жыл бұрын

diver down to me sounds like a bunch of mini albums (or EPs) that's supposed to make up an entire album. still a good listen. where have all the good times gone, full bug, little guitars, dancing in the street, and pretty woman make the album worth it for me.

@voodoochild1975az

3 жыл бұрын

Diver Down and Fair Warning are the real root causes of the split with Roth. Ed hated Diver Down. Label wanted a record ASAP and Dave and Templeman pushed for all the covers pissing Ed off and prompting him to build his own studio, 5150. 1984 was recorded there. This was Ed wanting more control. For the Fair Warning sessions, he was laying down the guitar parts Dave and Ted wanted during the day... then sneaking back into the studio and rerecording all of the guitar parts the way he wanted at night with Don Landee, the engineer. Fair Warning and Diver Down opened the fissures that then split wide open after 1984.

@shelster9967

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree

I remember going to Tower records the day it was released and buying this. Putting it in my CD player in my bronco in the parking lot. Listened to first couple tracks. Pulled it out went back in to return it. The employee walked up to me. I said I want to return it. He asked was something wrong. I said yeah this is the worst SH*T I ever heard!!! Apparently I wasn’t the first customer that did the same thing that night

1998 was the year that taught me the true nature of disappointment - Star Wars: The Phantom Menace and Van Halen III. The whole year was really an artistic punch in the balls.

@MagnusVonBlack

7 жыл бұрын

I actually saw Van Halen live when they were touring to support this album, and although the album was a hot squirt of goat poo, the tour was pretty fun. They played a lot of old, classic VH tunes, sort of like they knew that the album sucked. hehe.

@caseycorbin

7 жыл бұрын

I saw 4 dates on the tour and loved it. The most diverse set list celebrating all era of VH. Gary was great singing 9 Roth tracks, 4 of Sammy's and 4 off of VH3. Highlight of the tour was Mikey singing Somebody Get Me A Doctor. Oh on a side note Josephina is an ode to his mother. Like he's looking through a photo album of her growing up and he's asking questions about her past when he did not know her. But ya worst VH album ever.

@ThierryRocksTV

7 жыл бұрын

Episode 1 came out in 1999

@MagnusVonBlack

7 жыл бұрын

oops, you're right!

@MagnusVonBlack

7 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of it in terms of "the school year that started in 1998".

I love love love Gary Cherone. He belongs in Extreme. That's his home, and I am glad of it!

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

I need to listen to more Extreme. They're legit. :)

@MrJoeythebabykangaro

7 жыл бұрын

TheHappySpaceman Reviews Three Sides is their best imo

@saltpeter7429

3 жыл бұрын

Extreme is badass. They were in the Van Halen "mold". Could see Wolf and Alex playing with Nuno under a different name. I would listen to it.

I’m a huge VH fan but this album did blow. Fire in the Hole was one of few good tunes on there.

With all due respect, 1984 saw the release of "Powerslave".

@saltpeter7429

3 жыл бұрын

UP THE IRONS!.

@bucknasty69

3 жыл бұрын

1984 had a ton of good metal records come out...Defenders of the Faith by Judas Priest, Don't Break The Oath by Mercyful Fate, March of the Saint by Armored Saint, Out of the Cellar by Ratt, Ride The Lightning by Metallica, Tooth and Nail by Dokken, The Warning by Queensryche, WASP's self titled debut...the list goes on and on

@SuperBoomshack

3 жыл бұрын

Best Maiden album

I loved the guitar tone in this album 🔥

No love for “Women and Children First”? They were on that tour when I saw them, and the album rocks! Their opening act BTW was Talas, with bassist Billy Sheehan, who played later with DLR and then Mr. Big.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Everybody Wants Some!! Gotta admit that album has significantly grown on me.

@cs292

3 жыл бұрын

Romeo Delight is so good and unique.

I think Cherone did a good job but the mixing was terrible and the guitars are lackluster.

@britgilbert8736

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you but the die hard V.H fans would never accept nothing but Roth or Hagar period

@Squintintaratino

3 жыл бұрын

The album sounds flat!! No fire and Ed's behavior was strange at the time. Watch him on Howard Stern. Glad he outlived that sad time in his life!-

@anonymousdumbfuk

3 жыл бұрын

@@britgilbert8736 They should check out their live shows with Gary I thought he handled both the Roth and Hagar material well. Honestly I'd take Cherone over Hagar any day, way better fit for VH. VanHalen III suffered from lack luster song writing although Josephina and Year to the Day were decent.

@Vichedges

3 жыл бұрын

Cherone just sounds like a KMart Hagar. If he had done his own thing maybe it could have worked but the songs aren't very good and the production is awful. It just sounds weak. And Cherone looks like a fucking waiter in that all black metrosexual getup.

@ckatheman

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, the production (particularly the vocal mixing) was criminally bad.

personally I loved vh3. and I'm 58. and I've seen vh, van hagar, Sam & Dave's contour. and took my kids to van halen 17 yrs ago. I LOVE "a year to the day" on vh3. it was just a chance for the guys to try something completely different.

It sounds like it was sang by a drunk person. (Sigh) Mainly because, IT WAS SANG BY A DRUNK PERSON! That made me laugh so hard lol!!! 😂

@BusinessZeus

3 жыл бұрын

"SANG"

This was the deepest this band had ever gone and it was shocking at first but now it sounds great.

@unoriginal4294

Жыл бұрын

Why? Cuz now Eddie is dead every piece of work Van Halen put out is good?

@trevor-johnsen

Жыл бұрын

Eddie having died - and the perspective that he'll never release new music again - very likely allows this album to shine in a different light. Nobody claims it's perfect, plenty of weaknesses to point out, but it has some great moments.

For any engineer/producer types out there, I don't wanna use any names, but someone who worked on this record told me that they had accidentally erased the drum overhead tracks on some of the tunes, which explains the lack of punch/clarity/whatever on the drums. They wind up having to fake an overhead track by using the bleed from the tom mics, and I'd guess probably whatever other mics happened to be nearby the drumkit while they were recording.

Hey, I never noticed the album titles were actually back and forth jabs at the other band/person. That's interesting. I'm giving a thumbs up for pointing that out. haha

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Some of them may have been unintentional coincidences, but I've always found this pretty funny.

@cs292

3 жыл бұрын

Which titles o. VH3 or 5150?

@andresflores1500

3 жыл бұрын

McCartney & Lennon's lp titles, &/or lp covers were back & forth jabs at each other too.

@rhgamecock1

3 жыл бұрын

Me too on that. I had never picked up on it.

Too bad Eddie and Mike had a falling-out. Personally, I love Michael Anthony's bass playing. Just watch him in Chickenfoot for proof.

@natemahony493

3 жыл бұрын

And the Circle

@jonacheson

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Anthony's backing vocals were a big part of Van Halen's sound also. The band just wasn't the same without him.

@jasonmagel2069

3 жыл бұрын

Chicken Foot ?

@dalisman

3 жыл бұрын

they didn't have a falling out. Ed just cut him out

@559043

3 жыл бұрын

wasn't only ed... they were all assholes to him.. especially during 1984

HappySpaceman- A very informative and entertaining video. You not only know your music, but you know how to deliver info in a way that engages the listener. You also saved me the trouble of having to listen to this album! Look forward to watching your other stuff.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! Yeah, I feel as though video essays and more serious review channels are lacking an engaging way of delivering the info, so I've always wanted to entertain people _as_ I educate them. I hope to make more like this (well, with better production value, being four years later and all) in the future!

Good review. Anyone ever tell you you sound like McLovin?

I've always been in the minority since a year after III released in that this was my favorite VH album.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

That's totally fine, yeah. I will agree that it has good points, and at the end of the day, music taste is subjective and people are totally free to like any album that I dislike.

I like Cherone's vocals on From Afar. It creates a theatrical feel to it. I think Year to the Day is the best track on the album by far though. Overall, this album could have been much better and I agree with most of this analysis.

Watched the whole thing! Very well edited and produced, good job man!

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It was a hard album to get through, but I hope I made the best of it. Any particular parts that you enjoyed?

@jellomantv

7 жыл бұрын

Produced better than Van Halen III lol

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

LOL, true. At least I wasn't drunk during this. XD

Balance was a great great album.... Amsterdam and Dejavu are insanely good

album medicore, but the setlist for the tour though, wow

I can't really tell if the lyrics are bad since I can't understand most of the words. It's not just an impression of Sammy, it's an impression of Sammy mumbling.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Yeahhhh... There's a reason I started including subtitles for the song lyrics in my reviews that followed this one.

@adamjg4

3 жыл бұрын

it's an impression of Sammy mumbling... and with a few marbles in mouth.

This may be a slightly unpopular opinion and I know you're not reviewing the album, but _Van Halen II_ is my favorite album from this band. My favorite aspect of Van Halen is Michael Anthony's backing vocals and bass work, and _VHII_ has more of a focus on them. I mean, you've got "Dance The Night Away", "Somebody Get Me A Doctor", "Women In Love..." and "Beautiful Girls". All of these songs have some of Mike's best background vocals in the band's discography in my opinion.

@Diggerdog2nd

11 ай бұрын

Right on,Thats been my favorite VH album since it came out.

"Once" was actually Eddie's version of Peter Gabriel's "Red Rain." He has said so, because "So" is is favorite album, and I believe him. EVH has also said that "So" is the only music he has listened to since it came out. In 1986. I do not believe him.

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Also, TBH I do believe that he's only ever listened to his own stuff since 1986. A lot of songwriters who get really big do that in order to avoid lawsuits. There are a number of smaller artists who get sue-happy and figure that songwriters like Eddie are a quick way of making money.

@dalisman

3 жыл бұрын

well, at least So is incredible

@BusinessZeus

3 жыл бұрын

"is is"

'From Afar' is one of my favorite VH songs... 🤙

Its funny you should mention Extreme's funk-rock roots. I always think what Roth brought to the band was his R&B and dance influences, which he has always preferred to the Van Halen's Deep Purple and Led Zep influences. Early VH bootlegs have them playing the likes of Ohio Players. That's what makes the band interesting for me, and why I think I'm not keen on Sammy era. So, with that, if they would have gone back to the earlier sound with Cherone, it might have worked out a bit better. Ironically, Roth's album from the same year sounds more like a Van Halen album than this Van Halen album!

@bettyrose959

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt it would have worked out any better than it did. Not with everything going on at the time. Eddie was sober for the first time with a new song writer. They had never played together. That's almost impossible to do. I don't care how good the musicians are, if they haven't played together, certainly rare to write great songs together. Gary said it himself, "If I was to do the whole experience over again, I wish I would have gone out and toured with the guys before we made the record," he said. "Because when I came in at the beginning, you had to get acquainted. You know, I was the new kid in there. That in and of itself was a little uncomfortable.." They went right into the studio after a few jam sessions. There was a lot of things that shouldn't have been done making failure almost certain.

@orion681

Жыл бұрын

@@bettyrose959 Eddie was most definitely not sober during VH III

Great video and rebuttal from an underrated channel. I hope this picks up as you made a solid argument.

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! This video has surprisingly been increasing in views. I think I'll probably make more "Was It Really That Bad?" videos in the future; they seem to be the most popular ones on this channel.

I was a huge Extreme fan, even and in many ways especially their most-panned Waiting for the Punchline album. So, I was excited when they announced that Gary was stepping in. I thought he’d breathe new life into the band. Well, I’ve tried... and tried... and tried to listen to VHIII over the years and just have to endure it each time. You did a great job telling their musical story. There was no trying and enduring with a Van Halen album. Even their lesser albums to date grabbed hold and didn’t let go. The last time I tried to listen to this one again with fresh ears, I thought: I’m older now. Maybe being in a different place in my life will bring newfound apprecia - no, nope, nothing. You pointed out the best bits, but the sum of the parts is nearly unplayable. I always thought it must’ve been sad for Gary, too. You get this great gig and get trapped in what must’ve been a surreal production experience. Then you’re forever known as the worst lead for VH. That had to have been heartbreaking. Ah, well. I really appreciated this insightful breakdown. Awesome work.

@terryguire1321

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, bad fit. He was great in Extreme, not in VH. But, I've seen live video with Gary and he actually gave a great concert because he could sing both of the Roth and Hagar stuff well. I'm not sure that Gary's trying to do Roth and/or Sammy impersonations on VHIII as Happy Spaceman thinks. To me, "Without You" vocal and groove sounds very similar to Extreme.

@markdovers5150

Жыл бұрын

It is a struggle to get through this record. I was embarrassed for the band. Cherone is a good singer but, the vocals did not mesh with the instruments. This was the first album I wanted to return

@trevor-johnsen

Жыл бұрын

"Trapped in the surreal production experience" i.e. Ed's ego and substance issues - Gary likely did what he was told. It's a creative effort on Eddie's part but would have benefited from a true producer giving advice to van halen (the band) on how to to continue to "be van halen".

This came up in my recommended viewing options. I actually shared some content last week on my channel reviewing my collection of Van Halen items. I love your review of this, as I personally think this is a good album, I wouldn't say great.... but good. Honestly, I like this album with Gary more than the most recent album Van Halen released in 2012 with Lee Roth back on vocals. I just joined your channel and hope you get more viewers as I can really tell you enjoy doing videos for non commercial reasons.... Keep up the great work and I am going to check out some more of your content.

About 10 years ago I was living in Boston and saw Gary Cherone singing in a Who cover band called Slip Kid. He did an excellent job replicating Roger Daltry.

@mattkaustickomments

3 жыл бұрын

He can also do a dead-on Paul Stanley.

It was an absolute Blast seeing Dave back with VH. That's what everybody wanted!!. RIP to the greatest guitar player ever. Long live VH!!

@Waydisturbed

3 ай бұрын

Not everybody

I agree with the final assessment. There was potential in the project, but it never really came into focus or materialized as it should've. Once is a glorious moment though, a piece of experimentation that actually worked.

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe if it had had better production and lyrics, and hadn't been released under the Van Halen name, it could have been better. There are some shining moments on the album, too, "Once" being one of them. Thanks for watching!

The album cover was a picture of the punishment for Mike Post for producing this album. "Believe it or Not!"

Great video Happy Spaceman! I am not a huge Van Halen fan, but I do like some of their songs(“Why Can’t This Be Love” from 5150 is my personal favorite). But upon watching your review on Van Halen III, I listened to the entire album myself, and I do agree with you that while the album missed the mark, it wasn’t a completely terrible album. Some things that would have made it better in my opinion included: 1) Cutting down the longer tracks to 4-5 minutes. 2) Making some of the instruments and vocals sound more clearly in some of the tracks(Ex: Fire In The Hole and Without You) 3) Gary Cherone singing in his own voice in From Afar and Year To The Day(And having him sing vocals in How Many Say I instead of Eddie) 4) Move Newworld to the middle of the album and make Without You the first track instead. 5) Make the lyrics to some of the songs more creative, and in some songs, less creepy(Like Josephina).

24:11 Gary sounds like one of the voice filters that Roger Waters used on The Wall! (I think the one he used for the teacher) So that's 2 Pink Floyd inspirations on this album, along with Once

@THSReviews

6 жыл бұрын

Not surprised. They seemed to take a lot of influence from Floyd for this album.

Hey mate once again a great video! 1978 for Queen wasn't too flash (HAHAHA) as 'Jazz' didn't go down as well in the united states, and Pink Floyd almost broke up during the Animals tour :(

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

LOL, puns! I remember a few people telling me that _Jazz_ might have been their second worst received album behind _Hot Space_, despite the boosting of the singles "Bicycle Race," "Don't Stop Me Now," and "Fat Bottomed Girls." As for Pink Floyd, I was aware of that, and, well, we all know how that ended. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gZaCqpRxgcLckaw.html

Dude, where did you get Steve Vai's couch?! That's the same material that was wrapped around my 88 Ibanez Jem.

Great job. My first time seeing one of your videos. I like that you start with song one. Albums used to be put together with a cohesive “story”. Reading Sammy’s book, EVH became very messed up from drinking. Probably did some permanent damage (good name for an album). Ted Templeman’s book explains a lot in the early days. I believe I read Eddie played bass on Jump.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I already addressed the bass thing in the pinned comment--I received many other comments letting me know about that when I first uploaded this, to the point where I made an annotation in the video about it (but then KZread removed annotations, so... yeah). Apart from that, thanks for watching! I figure albums should be a cohesive thing, and _good_ albums still are these days. Poor Eddie. R.I.P.

AWESOME INFO

I'd love to hear this album stripped of vocals .

great job on this video. well done!! one of the best "review" type vids i've seen. kudos!

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I'll admit, it's not my best work--the video is four years old now, and I feel I have narrowed down my craft better with my most recent ones--but it is still nice to see that people enjoy this one.

You're commentary kills man!😂 New Sub🎼🎸

I liked this album. EVH's playing on 'From Afar' is the heavy sound I wish he would do more of

@THSReviews

6 жыл бұрын

The instrumentals in "From Afar" were alright, even if they were produced horribly. (I still can't stand the drum and guitar sound on this album.) This album definitely had a lot of potential, that's for sure.

Cherone has said himself they should've toured first before making the record ..... But even, I've been a van halen fan most of my life. And I don't care who was lead singer as long as ed and Alex were there I got my money's worth. Rest in peace Ed

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. If they had toured before the album, I feel like they would have been able to gel a lot better, know each other's strengths and weaknesses before rushing into the studio, and the end product could have been a lot stronger.

Eddie did previously play bass on Sammy's last solo album before "officially" joining VH....he had a contractual obligation to give his record company one more album before getting released from his contract. So...he asked Ed to play bass on it.

Album would’ve been great if it didn’t sound like it was recorded in a tin can. If the production was better, perhaps a remaster to make it warmer and less like a tin can would bring it some justice.

@dalisman

3 жыл бұрын

maybe even beyond just a remaster

@MRB16th

3 жыл бұрын

I did some audio work, along with swapping out the pointless solos and How Many Say I for That's Why I Love You (how this was left off I don't know) and trimming down the remaining tracks (except for Dirty Water Dog and Fire In The Hole, which are the best two on this) before they ran out of steam. My 48 minute version is pretty solid.

@THSReviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'd be down to hear your version some time if you still have it, MRB!

@chaddrumm6809

12 күн бұрын

Agreed. Likewise I loved 5150, but production of that album SUCKED as well!

i seen van halen on this tour and i got too say gary was excellent on stage but the album was not good

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

I imagine that between the recording of the album and the live performances, they were able to brush up on the songs from this album and improve how they sounded.

I'm glad they did the album with DLR in 2012, so they at least ended on a high note.

I think Gary stated he only really clicked with VH when they went on the Van Halen III tour, or something like that. Just thought I'd say that

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps things would have been better if they had toured first to better gel with each other instead of trying to crank out an album immediately.

@bigmanjones2553

4 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews Absolutely. You can hear how they gel together during the tour, so I can only agree.

@Romax-pg2is

3 жыл бұрын

Pudmunky You can see a huge leap in quality between VHIII's live renditions and their album counterparts.

I remember when this album came out - VH had been so quiet and I was excited when I heard about its release. I purchased the CD at the closest place I could think of after leaving work - Barnes & Noble. Back in the car, I rip the cellophane off and push it into the CD player. First track comes on... what the?... hit the track advance... ???... then another... ???... and another. By the time I get to the intersection to get out of the mall - all the tracks we "sampled." I pushed the eject button and threw it out the window. I littered and I'm not proud of that for that but man what a let down. Perhaps they could rerelease the album without any vocals and make it an instrumental.

Ride the Lightning came out in 1984...so 1984 is the third best album that year in my humble opinion.

@yourlocalklansman2916

2 жыл бұрын

There was also Power Slave, Defenders of the Faith, Last in Line, Tooth and Nail, Out of the Cellar, Pyromania, Perfect Strangers, Hell Awaits, and Stay Hungry. Let's just say 1984 had some pretty good albums

@stepladder3257

2 жыл бұрын

Born in the USA??

@freeparking301

6 ай бұрын

Defenders of the Faith was 1984 wasn’t it?! Well the A side of that record owns just about any year!

Usually its the first 3 albums of any band, 4 if they're exceptional. By then they are well into their career, and their life doesn't resemble average people anymore, plus your priorities change with age. They loose that hunger, the edge, and stop connecting with fans through they're writing anymore. But that first Van Halen album was unbelievable! Seriously, play the rock charts top 10 for 1977, then put on Van Halen 1(February 10th, 1978). It was a new era, and the King played a guitar!

This was a SOLID video. Well produced, witty, and funny as hell. Keep churning out stuff like this and you'll make it big someday!

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm working on a regular schedule of uploading more these coming months. I'll have to work around my college schedule, though. My next album review will probably be either _The 2nd Law_ by Muse or _Cut the Crap_ by The Clash.

“Without you” and “fire in the hole” are really really strong songs

I remember when I first listened to this album and when I heard, "How Many Say I", I literally wanted to throw up

@jamesnoble3502

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

I like Extreme, but yeah this wasn't Van Halen quality material

I was most curious about what you'd say about "Once". Glad you like it.It's one of my favorite VH songs. The two solos (especially the outro) are some of of his most soulful playing.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I do rather enjoy "Once," yeah. The bright spot on the album IMO.

I was at a show in '91 with David Lee Roth, Extreme, and Cinderella at Great Woods in Mansfield, MA where Extreme got issued a platinum record in the middle of the show. I think it was a step back for Cherone at around that time to join Van Halen.

@SoxPopuli

3 жыл бұрын

Extreme's 1992 album bombed, their 1995 album was purchased by about 18 people and by 1996 they were essentially broken up. Not entirely sure, then, how this would have been a step back for Cherone when his previous band hadn't been culturally relevant in at least half a decade and was not active at the time.

Fire In The Hole is probably the most Van Halen sounding track on the album.

@ryankibler7973

3 жыл бұрын

Only memorable song on the album and it still sucks

@armyguy872008

3 жыл бұрын

My fav is Dirty Water Dog

@mdwayne741

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is....a pretty good song!

As I am apparently one of the three people on the planet who actually like this album I found your video to be equally 1) offensive, 2) entertaining, and 3) informational! Bravo! Great job! LOL I very much enjoyed your perspective and humor - my response being to subscribe to your channel even before checking out what else you have to offer.

@techdeathhippie6319

3 жыл бұрын

The album is great if you enjoy it fir what it is

@shurbret9923

3 жыл бұрын

I loved it when it came out. It sounded super cool in 1998. 💯 more interesting than Balance.

@Me4-gc8qs

3 жыл бұрын

Guess that makes me 4?

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing, Eric! I'm glad you like my video. And nothing against people who do like _Van Halen III,_ by the way; to each his own, I say.

@brunogallichand2444

3 жыл бұрын

@@tristanreagann I fully agree. I thought I would react like 99.9% of other people, but funnily i just love it!!! yes the last song reminds me of Roger Waters and... I like it!

16:35 What are we actually doing here?

This album's major problem was being 65½ minutes long. I did some audio work, along with swapping out the pointless solos, One I Want, Ballot Or The Ballot and How Many Say I for That's Why I Love You (how that was left off I don't know) and trimming down the remaining tracks (except for Dirty Water Dog and Fire In The Hole, which are both belters) before they ran out of steam. My 41 minute version is pretty solid.

@THSReviews

2 жыл бұрын

Is there anywhere I can listen to it?

@MRB16th

2 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews I did this for the version on my phone, sorry to say.

I think ppl forget, so much of the early VH stuff benifits hugely from Michael Anthony's backup vocals

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Mike's backing harmonies added so much to the band's sound.

@realcrunchy6572

2 жыл бұрын

Nah MA cultists brings it up all the time

Dude, you have this Weird Al Yankovic vibe, partly from looks and part from your mannerisms...although I don't know which of his albums killed his career.

@THSReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Weird Al's career? Last I checked, it was still alive and kicking. But thanks! I've gotten a lot of those Weird Al comparisons (perhaps not helped by the fact that I've grown out my hair twice as long since I filmed this video, haha). Hey, at least you aren't comparing me to Tommy Wiseau like some people do...

@Nephilim2038

3 жыл бұрын

Weird Al’s last album a few years ago was his highest charting ever, Not quite a “killed career.”

I loved Van Halen growing up, but I totally missed that Van Halen had a 3rd lead singer till I heard today while watching a EDdie VH interview, that grunge scene must have really got me.....RIP Eddie

Great vid man, attention to detail is spot on! Your views are .. balanced and fair!

And now you know why people blank out that there was a third lead singer for VH.

The fact is, hair metal only really counted from the end of the seventies to the end of the eighties. After that it was sort of a matter of enticing people with music the audience knew was going to be suburban, slick and professional, and just sort of outdated in a macho, 80's, douch-ey kind of way. Not so for Tom Waits though !! But he never seemed to think the 80's existed, even in 1985. The reason this album "III" exists is because Alex the drummer from Han Valen was married, and his brother in law was a music manager (who managed Gary Cherone), and when Sammy the singer left/was fired, his management (and the management of Han Valen) left - SO they got Alex's brother in law to manage, who thought much money $$$$$$$$$ would come to their smiling, Los Angeles faces if they just put two commercial 80's rock acts together. It didn't work, but mostly because the music is so bland - its like Van Hagar but even blander, he had bluster but "III" sounds blander than a demo by a Christian Rock artist. Which is another thing, Alex the drummer is an ordained Catholic priest and Gary the singer is a Christian Rocker, so maybe total blandness is the key to their collective hearts and capitalist irrelevance. In the 90's piles of loud rocker bands like Pantera, Alice in Chains and even NIN had a past with commercial 80's pop - it's just no-one knew of them then. In that decade, you needed edgier music or disturbing videos or a new image or anything, anything to avoid being a bland hair metal artist. G&R were actually perceived as a hair metal backlash with their authentic guitar tones, retro clothes and the fact that there's NO synthpop elements on any of their four albums. God, the 80s sucked really. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nad2p5dsc6y6aKg.html

Great job!! Subscribed!

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks for this analysis, sometimes funny I admit. It has taught me to keep my expectations low though... but an open mind too. See I had been a fan of Van Halen, no matter what era it was... however, in 1998 I had started having my kids and I had backed away from buying music and had ignored the band by then. Now today, with the passing away of Eddie, I'm kind of discovering this album. As you put it, it was not played much on radio so I did not know of it's existence. Today, my musical taste has evolved into more progressive rock (Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Radiohead, etc) HOWEVER I did listen to the "III" album and I find it refreshing to see Eddie go in those musical directions. Yes very different but still having it's own musical colors and more melodic riffs. And yes, the signer is trying to keep the "tone" of its predecessors, but hey that's the Van Halen tone. People hating a band because it's going in directions they themselves don't like is a selfish pretense, in my opinion. I liked discovering this album whatever people will say, and I will play it often to appreciate Eddie's new tones (Ballot Or The Bullet sounds nice, irrelevant of lyrics). Eddie's gone and like so many people, it saddened me quite a lot. So discovering this album is a way for me to listen to him with a fresh musical shade. He did compose the music of the sensual movie "Sacred Sin" and the song Josephine is in line with it. Interesting stuff... Thanks Eddie... I liked rediscovering you again in this album! RIP man!

Ive been listening to this album the last couple days. It isnt that bad. Its actually pretty interesting musically. The major issue i think is that the songs run long and the production isnt great. But i think 'Year to the Day' is an amazing song.

@Wannagobackto1980

3 жыл бұрын

The music wasnt bad. The lyrics (for the most part) COMPLETELY SUCK!!! I cant really understand what Gary is saying because he is yelling his lyrics.

👍 I've always liked this album 👍 Like every second of it! It came out when I was go 8th grade and I got It during it's first week of release-on cassette tape-from Wal-Mart back when they still had those huge red plastic cages attached to the cassette case lol. And since it was on cassette I had to/was able to listen to it all from beginning to end and take it all in. (Instead of listening to a minute then skip to next track like CD) Stuff to remember . . . Ed and Alex have creative control of this band so all complaints need to be forwarded to them. Not Gary or producers etc. Also I loved all the DIFFERENT guitar sounds Ed shows up on this one. Also from a guitarist stand point I think this album is the answer to the question "WHAT DOES A PEAVEY 5150 SOUND LIKE" 😉 Also I REALLY don't think Gary was trying to sound like Dave or Sammy - I think Ed and Alex knew that Gary's tone was somewhat similar and that's why they hired him to start with.

11:43 ... Okay hold on, I can’t be the only one who listens to that song and hears the guitar intro to Love Song by Tesla....

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Now that I think of it, it _does_ sound kind of similar...

There is a huge difference between reading about the history of this band and living through each record release. Completely different perspectives. To each their own I guess. RIP Eddie.

I’ve heard worst album closers than “how many say I”, for example, the spongebob theme sung by Corey Taylor on “Nostalgia Critic’s The Wall”

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

I try to ignore that...

@DrZuluGaming

3 жыл бұрын

This is such a waste of Corey Taylor. This entire "album/parody/review" was nothing but a waste of time.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@DrZuluGaming Ironic, back when I was a fan of the NC (this was 2015 or so), I made my review of Roger Waters' _The Wall: Live in Berlin_ and had my own parody of "The Trial" that was similar to how I would have imagined Doug making it. Years later, Doug _did_ make one... but at what cost? Completely lost my respect for Doug. And I'm not sure what Corey Taylor or Rob Scallon were doing there either.

At this point I'd actually love an EVH solo album with a bunch of different singers like slash. Great vid man!

@THSReviews

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yeah, that would be interesting. I enjoyed Slash's solo offerings.

@briancarr4607

3 жыл бұрын

That should have happened

Cool review...

I was listening to a tune off this album the other day on Sirius XM. I had to look 3 times to confirm it was really VH

I don't think I've ever heard of Van Halen described as "hair metal." Most rock fans from the olden days would take offense at that. Ah, well, does such a thing really matter four decades later? Probably not. Anyway, I've got to give a thumbs up to the Van Halen the 3rd album. Nobody liked it at the time, and that reputation has probably worsened since '98, but whose fault is that? I loved the '90s for the music diversity and anything-goes attitude. Mind you, I was never a fan of most '80s hard rock and heavy metal--heck, I loved Seattle precisely because they kicked all the LA rocker-dude bands to the curb. So I end up enjoying the '90s Van Halen albums more than most. Again, ah, well.

@THSReviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! As I said, there are some things I appreciate about the album, even if I wasn't a fan of the overall product. As for their status as a hair metal band, I think they basically _created_ the scene with their influence, as every hair metal band started off trying to be Van Halen. So in my books, they have earned the honorary title of being the first hair band--YMMV, though.

@Nephilim2038

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they were the first hair metal band merely because all the glam metal bands to come tried to be them, with makeup.

I know I'm going to get roasted here. But to this day, I still believe that "VAN HALEN III" is one of the band's BEST records. My only "issue" with it is that the production being handed over to Mike Post. Ted Templeman has always been one of my favorite Music Producers since the 70s. And I felt that with a new singer in Cherone, Templeman's history with VH would have helped a bit more. I still love the album. And accepted Eddie's wanting to "go somewhere else" for a bit. Since his death, it's one of the VH CDs I've gone back to playing often.

Nice vid. So I heard rumors that you'll be making a return as the Red Mist. Any comments?

You are young but knowledgeable I didn't have my hopes up but i must say you are informed and intelligent you have my subscription good day sir. Greetings from Buffalo New York

From what I've been told by people who know Gary personally, most of his vocals and lyrics were just demos, for instance Without You was done only 3 days of him joining the band...Gary is a great singer and equally inventive lyricist, and he suffered what Michael Anthony suffered on this album, and unfortunately takes all the blame as if HE was in charge....funny video though! Btw, Cherone is pronounced like 'Sherone'

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't surprise me if they were demos, honestly. The entire album has that demo sort of quality. And maybe Gary should have toured with the band before they immediately recorded an album, so he could gel better with the other members. Whoops! Thanks for letting me know. I'll fix my pronunciation of his name in future videos.

@toddclancy4442

4 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews they actually did start a 2nd album and have 7 songs that Gary said sound light years better...

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

@@toddclancy4442 I mentioned that in my vid. Wonder if those songs will ever be released.

This album was originally called Ed's Ego Trip. He not only payed guitar, but played bass, produced the album, mixed the album, and even sang lead on a song. Next album Ed planned to sing everything and the next one even take over drums from his brother. Sammy meanwhile went on to make multiple very good solo albums that were both coherent and not cringing. Sammy's solo albums were the best VH albums in the last 20 years lol

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

I could see it. If he really did produce the album instead of Mike Post, who is credited, then he did a poor job on it and really needed to get a second opinion with some of those choices.

@cheapseats12

4 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews Mike Post did whatever Ed wanted, so Ed produced it. It's like if a movie has a Director but the leading man is actually directing the whole thing. Who's film is it then?

@THSReviews

4 жыл бұрын

@@cheapseats12 Yikes. And Mike Post didn't have any experience producing rock albums before that--he just did work on country stuff and TV themes. Did Eddie Van Halen produce anything before _VHIII?_ I know now that he had played bass before it--I got that wrong in my review.

@cheapseats12

3 жыл бұрын

@@THSReviews I don't think he produced anything prior to this. VH albums always had a legit producer and Dave and Sam were the ones that ran the band, not Ed. So this is result of Ed in control of the band and album. Not surprising he would have issues after this and only 1 disastrous tour until 2007. He made a bed, took ball and fumbled. Was a sad end to VH outside of slight revival with DLR in 2000s.

Love the spinal tap behind you,that's the best album ever made because theres none more blacker and the volume goes to 11 that kicks ass😂

A little over a year ago, I started to play this cd again to see if it really did suck, or that I didnt give it enough of a chance. I like it quite a lot now, they should have at least done another album with Cherone.

Im a DLR fanboy, David cant sing now breaks my heart to say. But I rather see Gray than DLR or Sammy its different

@BusinessZeus

3 жыл бұрын

You're the second person that I've seen writing "Gray Chorone"

@neillp3827

3 жыл бұрын

I like gary the bones always wiggling on stage

I dig your style. Really thoughtful and fair-minded. I went on a Van Halen kick a few months back and listened to all of their albums in a row and "Without You" and "Dirty Water Dog" were the only two I really enjoyed from this one (the latter of which became a little less enjoyable when I started to listen to the lyrics).

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! In the future, I will need to do some better research, but it's nice to hear what people are saying about my stuff. :) Same thing happened to me a little before I made this video. I had previously heard of _Van Halen III_ called one of the worst albums of all time, and since I have this series, well, it was worth covering it.

Do you have a Twitter

@THSReviews

7 жыл бұрын

I don't, actually. I do have a Tumblr, though: thehappyspaceman.tumblr.com

@THSReviews

6 жыл бұрын

Update: Now I do! @Happy_Spaceman