Vader's Thoughts on Anakin's Betrayal of Mace Windu and More...
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In today's excerpt from Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno (2005) we see Vader's thoughts about Anakin and how he never cared for being a sith..or a jedi...for that matter...
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Anakin's selfishness is what blinded him to the fact that Sidious could never follow through on his promises to save Pademe. Once Anakin slaughtered the younglings, he crossed the line and did not see a way back. Once Padame refused to join him, his entire vision collapsed and he was Palapatine's slave. Only his son could bring him back because his redemption showed him how letting go was the only way to keep those whom you love close.
@chpet1655
Жыл бұрын
Perfectly said ! Also we need to understand Vaders dilemma regarding ruling the empire. How can Vader claim the title of emperor when he had no position no legitimacy. He would require all of the empires civil servants and military commanders to “anoint” Vader emperor. But that wasn’t going to happen easily because Vader had so many enemy’s. His position as number 2 only existed because of Palatines will. Vader only had a position because the boss said so and with Sidious dead nobody would obey Vaders commands. Threatening to kill people would prove futile since the empire was so huge how can you kill so many civil servants and make them all knuckle down to your will. No Vader was stuck right where he was forever
Your thoughts on Anakin are always so compelling bro, you really explain his character well
His mothers death was very hard hitting for him in that he wasn’t able to save her from dying, but Yaddle’s Legend death was what started his downfall to the Dark when she sacrificed her life for Anakin.
@donnellebarfield3964
Жыл бұрын
Much better reason to go dark considering yadle was the heart of the Jedi and mother figure
@InfiniteNaos
Жыл бұрын
@@donnellebarfield3964 She truly was.
Breh, anyone else get chills hearing Vader scream “OBI-WANNNNNN” In the finale? The distortion mix of anakins voice intertwined with Vaders was too good. Really brings home the connection of the two characters.
@DrewShiiesty
Жыл бұрын
No 😅
@anakinskyogre1037
Жыл бұрын
yea that was one part disney did a good job of
@vanguardian2864
Жыл бұрын
Still sucked.
@luciandeveer8652
Жыл бұрын
Yeah bro i think that it was the best moment in the Kenobi series
@ericgreen2884
Жыл бұрын
By far the best moment. They did a good job connecting the two characters
I love Darth Vader and Anakin, and I agree with you about him being my favorite. If Disney focused more on Darth, because there's so much to cover, they'd be more popular. Thankful that there are channels such as yours that allows us to still stay in touch with the true Star Wars as it should be.
loving the fact that you are covering my favourite star wars book
I really love how much of Vader we get from these books in the comics. It’s awesome to be able to see his characters struggle. Thank you so much for all that you do for our community. This is the way brother, that the force be with you.
Yoda & Mace Windu are my favorite characters and I can never really choose between them lol. I also agree with you about wanting to be like Qui-Gon.
Really loving these excerpt videos, can't wait for more!
Yeah aggressively agreed. Anakin is by far my favorite for all the reasons. But I'd strive to be like qui Gon. Tho that Darkside has cookies. And that's a bit enticing
@tandavawalsh0777
Жыл бұрын
And capes.... dont forget capes
I really like how Vader specifically says that he took out the Jedi because he saw them as standing in the way of what he wanted. It makes the scene where he kills Mace even more powerful because that is the literal representation of the Jedi standing in the way, and him having to make the choice between the Jedi represented by Mace, and the only way he sees of accomplishing his goals and saving his wife, which is unfortunately Palpatine. I like that he points out that he never had a loyalty to the Sith that extended beyond his loyalty to Padme. I'd love to read this book sometime, it sounds like Luceno really has a good understanding of the character of Darth Vader.
@D3__
Жыл бұрын
His wife was unfortunately Palpatine?
@PsychoEmerald
Жыл бұрын
@@D3__ No lol Palpatine is the only way of accomplishing his goals🤣
@masterexploder9668
Жыл бұрын
@@D3__ You would need a big home to fit the whole Senate inside.
Thanks for these rise and fall of Darth Vader vids really enjoy them my favorite character is Vader, May the force be with you
Loving these old style videos 🔥
I'm so glad your back to doing the Legends videos. These are awesome for someone who's never read the books. Thanks homie!!
The irony of it all was that in trying to “save Padame”, he ended up killing her
@PhantomCookie87
Жыл бұрын
Actually, it was Sideous. He drained her life force in order to keep Vader alive.
@ruochenliu414
Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomCookie87 Is that canon? That is so pure evil
@QuayNemSorr
Жыл бұрын
@@PhantomCookie87 I regard this as canon. But if I recall correctly it hasn't been confirmed and is still "just" a fan theory
@PhantomCookie87
Жыл бұрын
@@QuayNemSorr it's a better theory than "she died of heartbreak". Nobody just drops dead that quick from heartache.
@PhantomCookie87
Жыл бұрын
@@ruochenliu414 it makes sense since Anakin was that messed up.
I love Dark lord: The Rise of Darth Vader! I think it's so cool you're doing videos on it now, Theory. In fact, watching your videos has been one of the things that's helped me better understand Anakin's character so much more. The animation your doing looks awesome too!
At first glance at the title, I thought this was going to be Darth Vader breaking the fourth wall and listening to the Revenge of the Sith only to start bawling in his helmet when listening to Anakin's Betrayal.
Ayeee! This is an awesome insight!
so glad ur uploading again i missed ur vids :)
Yo the content has been real fire the last couple of days 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for always making these AMAZING videos Star Wars Theory 🙌😀! May the Force be with you ALWAYS.
Loving these videos theory reminds me of the old days thank you keep it up man
Never knew about this man. Very cool video 🔥
Thanks for bringing those books to attention! I will definitely check them out!
My favorite character is Mace Windu. He’s such a unique character! If you read the legends books that feature his POV you find that he’s one of the most introspective, intuitive, passionate and compassionate Jedi. I love that his invention of Vaapad was to ultimately stop himself from turning to the dark side and through that effort became one of the light side’s greatest champions. Plus his self control and determination I think are admirable. The books also humanize him. Under the stony exterior he struggles with self doubt and regrets but learns to overcome them and become a greater person. Plus the writers always go out of their way to show off how bad ass he really is.
@magicfeliuri2681
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
James Luceno is my favorite Star Wars author. Also Drew Karpyshyn and Timothy Zahn are notable mentions.
@valadier3348
Жыл бұрын
Luceno and Zahn are peak EU. Karpyshyn was also pretty good
Great video. This was a great book. I loved getting into Vader’s thoughts in this. Mg favorite characters have changed over the years. In the 80s it was Luke. But many years later, when the Republic Commando game came out, I read the Karen Traviss book and the ones that followed. It’s now my favorite storyline in the Star Wars universe. So Omega and Delta squads are my favorite group of characters now.
once more I learn more from you Theory. well done.
I heard you say "OF COURSE" in the past few videos more than I have heard it in my entire life. I would be happy never to hear that phrase again in my life
I think you said it perfectly, that being: people seeing the excitement and drama of star wars sometimes over look the sheer beauty and detail of this world George Lucas made. especially Vader the ultimate tragedy.
Loved this!!
That animation is on point 👍👍👍
My favorite character is thrown, there is so more to him than people think. He is one of the best strategic minds the galaxy has known. He did serve the empire but he wasn't evil in the way most imperials were, he first got into the service of the empire because he believed the empire was the best chance to help defend his people the chiss people from a threat in the unknown regions. He treated the people under his command with respect and many under his command was immensely loyal to him because of that. He was a good hand to hand fighter as well. He rarely lost battles with his superior strategic intellect, he understood his adversies in ways that went over most people's heads. He's one of the best characters that has so much more depth to him most people don't realize he has
@magicfeliuri2681
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
More videos like these please!
Anakin biggest problem was he always thought about himself first. That’s what made him a slave to his reality. Once he decided to place his son first by saving his life, then anakin achieved freedom.
@calibur3239
Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?? This literally all happened because he was only thinking about Padme💀
@joshuadesautels
Жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan got him to think about what PADME would want, while Palpatine got him to think about what HE wanted.
@joshuadesautels
Жыл бұрын
"Come to your senses! What would Padme do were she in your position?" "She would do her duty."
@Hardunkenchud
Жыл бұрын
Tbh placing is son before himself is what he thought he was doing with padme to begin with but in the end doing this technically is still selfish. He still killed children before he was a slave to the Emperor truly and murdered mand jedi. However I'm willing to concede what he did as a slave to the Emperor after that point of Mustafar, the truly just thing to do would be to kill himself, but if he did the Emperor would just find a new apprentice. So vader continued until he could find any kind of influence that could turn the tide between himself and the Emperor, and luke was it. So does giving luke what he wants even though that is good in his eyes actually redeem him. That may be the point in most people's eyes for return of the jedi but for me it's the attempt that luke makes that's the point. If you get down to brass taxes a sith could be a force ghost if that information was divulged to another sith or former jedi.
@Hardunkenchud
Жыл бұрын
@Calibur but if he had asked padme before the mace windu fight she wouldn't agree with intervening, I don't think. Especially if he told her of the dreams in full. So what theory is saying is that he selfishly chose for padme what was best for her. His thoughts of what was best for her was delusional and forced him to make very poor decisions in what he believed to be her favor.
A lot of what we find in our favorite characters in Star Wars we can mirror in ourselves. Like with Anakin/Vader, it shows it’s never too late to change for the better and with obi want it shows even at your lowest point you can always find a reason to keep going and better yourself. Star Wars is amazing
Great video 🤙
How come Theory you don’t reference the comics more? The first Disney/Marvel Vader campaign is Vader playing both sides as Palpatine literally puts him in death gauntlets having lost his trust after the destruction of the first Death Star.
Really great video!!! I agree that the ROTS novel is excellent. My favorite character is Luke, with second place going to Padmé.
your videos are really making me like the prequels more and more good job
Ok that animation at the end was great, but for a moment there i thought you were trolling there and playing that sequel animation Star Wars Resistance!
Nice animation man that was funny
I loved this!
I love all the Star Wars lore. Would love to see old republic tales and Exar-kun on the big screen and his crazy looking spaceship!
Darth Sidious, Darth Vader (With and without the suit), Luke, Yoda, Dooku and Mace Window jejeje. All faves.
That AI Mace in the thumb nail is a crime against humanity.
That animation though 😂😍
Great video.. Anakin and Luke is my favorites
This is a perfect video Theory. Really great job, love your insight here
"The last bit of Padme which still exists, which is his son."... Uh, I'm pretty sure "there is another..."
that animated sneak peek was fucking hilarious!
Before his injuries on Mustafar, I think Anakin had a decent chance of defeating Mace Windu in battle. But Mace Windu would wipe the floor with Darth Vader
@mebraturowland7574
Жыл бұрын
100% if he didn’t get his injuries i would probably say that he would have a fair chance against any jedi
@macwelch8599
Жыл бұрын
@@mebraturowland7574 yep
@SheevPalps868
Жыл бұрын
Mace would not wipe the floor with Vader. It would be a close fight due to Vader having most of the advantages.
@taps8781
Жыл бұрын
@@SheevPalps868 Mace has Vaapad, using Vader's anger against him. Shatterpoint though.....Vader loses before the fight begins.
@SheevPalps868
Жыл бұрын
@@taps8781 You’re acting like he’s some low level inquisitor. It’s Darth Vader, one of the most powerful and skilled Sith Lords ever. It’s a close fight come on now.
Mace Windu you're on this Council we give you the rank of dark lord.
You and Dave Filoni always make such beautiful analysis about the prequels of facts that are often overlooked. It's easy to get distracted with the prequel's "sometimes" sketchy dialogue, over-use of CGI etc. But at the same time there's this amazing harmony in the details of its story. Once you see this, it does make the prequels a lot better than on first sight. Also part of why I started to appreciate the prequels so much more after Disney's sequels came out, realized that Star Wars has become a shallow, meaningless fastfood franchise.
@masterexploder9668
Жыл бұрын
Prequels have a strong story underneath the clunky meme dialogue and amazing worldbuilding. They also actually had plenty of practical effects, not just CGI spam as it appears to be. When you are a kid, you are mainly interested in ships, blasters and lightsabers, but later on you can actually appreciate some more nuances themes.
Your new tag line should be, "Did I ever tell you about the tragedy of Darth Vader the Slave?".
2:58 one time he tried to kill palpatine
Today is the 18th anniversary of Revenge of the Sith. May 19th, 2005. A day i'll never forget.
Keep up the amawork. My favorite Sta Wars character is awakin Skywalker
Hey theory First of all love the video you did a great job Second I went to go listen to one of your Spotify podcasts and the channel isn’t coming up, I’m just wondering if anything has happened to it?
very good video, really enjoyed it, ever do any what ifs? say Padme and obiwan join Anakin, you know calmer talking no choking people
my favourite Character is Obi Wan, not just in Star Wars, but out of any show or movie ive seen. ever since i was a young child he was my favourite. something about how selfless, caring, skillful and indeed became powerful yet stayed fully humble, etc. for most things, he seems like not only the perfect jedi and how all jedi shouldve been like, but also in real life his characteristics always seemed to be how a man should be. Kenobis my favourite without competition.
A What If version of Star Wars, with this theory, would be exciting.
This was nice theory.
the in depth story line is why i love star wars so much and it’s also why i argue that Attack of the Clones is the most important movie in the series based on what occurs and that is why it’s my second favorite out of the 6 (disney doesn’t count for me lol) if you really think about it.. i’d anakin never falls in love with padme in that movie that plot line could never develop and then you add in the death of his mother as well that movie is criminally underrated and hated when it’s a pivotal piece of the story if you appreciate what happens
Good work as always my favorite character is also Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
legends material is so OP!! Love it!
no way, first??? yes!! lol BTW, I LOVE these videos deep diving into characters' thoughts and nostalgia. Keep it up!!!
One thing people forget about, in legends Padme was a big part, he also had a fear of losing Obi-Wan and R2-D2. That’s why he didn’t want to leave him after killing Dukoo or why he tried to get Obi-Wan to join him too. He has a fear of losing the ones he loved and that were close to him.
Remember when Yoda said “there is another” this to me is why I think it was Anakin he was talking about... how could it have been princess Leya anyway...? It makes that part so much cooler when u realise he’s talking about Anakin. Well that’s jst how I like to see it...
Ironically Darth Vader and Qui-Gon Jinn are my two faves in Star Wars as well.
Yeah I didn't really understand that until this video
I love the Darth Vader suit he's the greatest villain ever to me. But man I wish there was a movie or show based on anakin if he didn't get chopped up and lost a good chunk of his force power level
I loved reading this book.
Brilliant
You know what hat would a cool fan fiction - Padme survived child birth and - anakin assisted mace windu to kill palps and plot twist obi wan turns to the dark side after getting defeated by anakin on mustifar
beautiful
Another banger
Oh great, another Mace Windu Hate Parade video.
SW theory hearing you talk about the novels by Matthew Stover is interesting makes me want to go read them my favorite character is also Darth Vader but what character I want to be like Luke Skywalker may the force be with u
What software did you use to create the animation at the end of this video?
my favorite character is mace windu because he has mastered his emotions and infused the darkness and light within him in service of what he believed to be the ultimate good: the jedi order's code. thats why he is always so stoic and absolute in his decisions in battles or in jedi order's council meetings. he is very elven and logical which has always been my cornerstone when choosing sides in fantasy settings. however the character that i connect with the most is obi wan. he has to work way harder to achieve what others have as their innate power and in the end he is never tempted to use that power for evil but rather in defense of what he perceives as good. that is why he is a defensive fighter. a true champion of the light forged from the most humble beginnings with no special powers, and yet in the end he is the last man standing in defense of it !
Is theory no longer uploading on spotify
Awesome Vid! Jedi: Qui-gon Other: Rex/Cody
It honestly goes to show that anakin was always a slave since birth he was always a slave to something and it’s honestly sad first he was a slave on tatooine, then a slave to the Jedi (say what you want but the Jedi was also corrupt), then his emotions, then palpatine, and finally after all that he gained his freedom through his son.
Making him relatable af! 👍
My favorite Star Wars character is probably Echo. Fives, Tech, and Wrecker are all tied for close second though.
I was showing my students ROTS as an end of the year treat...... and it suddenly occurred to me... Anakin's fear of losing Padme in childbirth is what made him fall to the dark side.... So.... Anakin's fall....the Emperor's rise....the death stars...... all could have been prevented.... .... with a C-section ....
Favorite character? Hard to say..characters I'd like to see more of and know more about are Maul, Young Palpatine, Obi-Wan's brother and Luke leading up to the jedi rebuilding.
I’m reading this book now, what chapter is this recollection in? Also, I ordered my Order 66 hat and I can not wait to rock it. May the Force be with you.
My favorite is grand admiral trawn
Where do you get these artworks?
I like to think when Luke walked with Vader. Vader told him he has nothing left. And Luke could have said something like ' you have me' or us.
Last time I was this late, the SW hotel was actually open.
Hello There Everyone!! I absolutely love these lore videos, Revenge Of The Sith is in my opinion the best Starwars film, especially the novel.
I agree with you, Anakin was a slave his entire life but now he gets to choose his own way. He gets to be his own master at the end. 👏👏👏👏
You are the GOAT.
In the alternative ending for the ROTS game, he does kill Sidious.
Vader to Luke in episode 6 "the nightmares are finally over" as his eyes fade
Absolute W upload
How long after Anakin told mace did they go to confront him. And after his Death how long was it when they storm the jedi temple