Sidious: "Now that we've finished this comic arc, restore him to how he always looks and we'll never mention Exegol, or the plans, or anything..."

@grayski3324

3 жыл бұрын

@TheLordofLightAndTime7077 Another opportunity would be right after the party on Endor.

@grayski3324

3 жыл бұрын

@TheLordofLightAndTime7077 I agree that the Sequels are a mess but they did show that Kylo isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. The man can't keep his shit together during interrogations, loses his shit when he failed consistently, lost against a complete newbie, and is just plain inconsistent with his motives. As for Luke, he should've sent the young Ben to the force ghosts to speak about darkness. It would've been great to see Ben speak with Qui-gon about it since he was one of the truest Jedi of his time and always followed the will of the force.

@everettjohnson9374

3 жыл бұрын

@TheLordofLightAndTime7077 like how obiwan told Luke that Leia was his sister so they didn't make out? Force ghosts suuuuck

@whatthe574

3 жыл бұрын

@TheLordofLightAndTime7077 I guess Ben was tempted by the Dark Side? And Luke went to find Exegol because he found out about it, TROS tells you this.

@Ruylopez778

3 жыл бұрын

@@whatthe574 It's all stupid. Why did Palpatine build the DS2 as a trap to catch the rebels and hopefully Luke, if he had another massive fleet - or more importantly - why do you need a secret massive fleet when you're already constructing a devious plan to kill all the rebels?

Vader Capeless is the type of thing you’d put into the “therapist: *blank* isn’t real he can’t hurt you” meme lmao

@patrickbateman4258

3 жыл бұрын

@Cael Berglund how come you’re not complaining he put Vader in the title for clicks? You seemed to have a problem with him putting the mandolorian in the title for clicks

@turkeysandwich1998

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing lmao

@patrickbateman4258

3 жыл бұрын

@Cael Berglund I clicked on your name and it said “other comments on this channel” and showed you saying that 5 months ago on one of theories videos lmao

@StarWarsTheory

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@death735

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickbateman4258 u checked his profile to insult him😭😭💀

And a cape? Yeah, a cape would be pretty wizard!

@liammatthews1701

3 жыл бұрын

Tf does wizards have to do with vader

@evanazbell

3 жыл бұрын

@@liammatthews1701 do you not know?

@jcpp117

3 жыл бұрын

@@evanazbell Nobody says Wizard anymore ☹️

@dzeeffislive2557

3 жыл бұрын

Robot Chickem

@evanazbell

3 жыл бұрын

@@jcpp117 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqWho5RtqauXZNY.html

I remember seeing Vader capeless during TESB in that meditation chamber. It was uncanny because he still looks giant without the cape.

@wazowski2469

3 жыл бұрын

@Darth Vader big ooooooioof

@MrSmithers

3 жыл бұрын

@Darth Vader it's just as a guy with so few limbs you're pretty dang big.

@landononisko8853

3 жыл бұрын

Lo

@MrSmithers

3 жыл бұрын

@@landononisko8853 and behold?

@hunterkiller1440

3 жыл бұрын

@Darth Vader With all the calories burnt off on Mustafar, I doubt you're a Fat Lord.

Remember that the only thing capable of killing the emperor is crossing two sabers. If only Vader knew .

@francoisregis2155

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but Egon you said we can’t cross the flux 😂 Peter Venkman

@sayfskillz5779

3 жыл бұрын

Look how fucking overpowered sidious is, like windu sort of failed, yoda failed, Vader failed, Luke failed but oh Rey who has unfathomable power can defeat him by crossing lightsabers, i have no problem with her saving the galaxy but why was sidious the villain and why did she win in such a dumb way

@medalgear654

3 жыл бұрын

nah it was his overconfidence, He believed Vader could never betray him and when he realized that it was too late. Like any ordinary man, he was thrown down like cannon fodder. A fitting end for one who caused so much chaos.

@medalgear654

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayfskillz5779 Windu beat Palpatine. Rey saving the galaxy ruins Star Wars and doing it in such a dumb way makes everything look worse.e

@5stargrim

2 жыл бұрын

@@medalgear654 I'd say it's not the act of Rey or anyone else saving saving the galaxy that's the issue.. it's the enemy she saved it from. The sith, sidious of all people. I think the reason people hate it is because it really cheapens the entire arcs of Luke and anakin respectively. Rey was essentially just made to have all the powers, prestige, and skills of the chosen one with no effort or training; to defeat an enemy that's already been killed. The entirety of star wars was building up to that climactic victory on the second death star - Vader destroying sidious to protect his son and finally achieving balance. Then Disney pops up and is like "no, actually, none of that means anything anymore, Rey is the chosen one, sidious is alive, the death star was actually a small side project and no big deal" etc.. they are constantly trivializing and disregarding canon just to make "new" threats, irregardless of whether it actually makes sense or not. Their star wars feels like a fan fiction someone wrote overnight half the time.

He looks good thou but the capes an iconic part of his look like Han’s vest and chewie’s bandolier

@themandalorian2616

3 жыл бұрын

I've always liked Han in the jacket more

@unkownquantity4949

3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic comparison

@thestarkknightreturns

3 жыл бұрын

@@themandalorian2616 yup, blue Bespin jacket my favorite look for him as well, but it's not his most recurring uniform in most representations of the character. He's usually shown in white shirt and black sleeveless vest

It’s ironic how Darth Vader is looking for Han to find Luke, because in legends around the time after Ep.4 Jabba hires Bossk to hunt Luke to lure Han to Jabba.

Palpatine's reliance on machines is like Dr. Doom carrying that gun on his belt. It's to intimate people who don't understand his power enough to be afraid.

@RexxZProductions

3 жыл бұрын

It’s like Disney thinks the fans won’t raid the Jedi temple to delete the last two sequel movies😂

@RexxZProductions

3 жыл бұрын

@The Winter Soldier ya

Something's happening. I'm not the Sith Lord I should be. I want a cape! But I know I shouldn't.

@gabrielberrios1306

3 жыл бұрын

Haha

@grayski3324

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin, take the cape and then email Luke about Exegol.

@chosen-wan2188

3 жыл бұрын

Not all Villain wear capes

@Ruylopez778

3 жыл бұрын

This will be a cape long remembered

@benjaminmandeville4430

3 жыл бұрын

I'd look pretty dope without a cape

Vader looks swole without his cape

@damaxion5129

3 жыл бұрын

he is swole

@michaelkean5969

3 жыл бұрын

i mean he might just be a torso and stumps now he's still a buff torso and stumps but his cybernetic limbs where modeled of his real limbs and Anakin was built like a brick shithouse.

@joaodala549

3 жыл бұрын

​@@michaelkean5969 he's actually even bigger than when he was Anakin, somehow that failing body of his keeps getting more jacked with all the weight of the suit

@michaelkean5969

3 жыл бұрын

@@joaodala549 it's because just because he was now a cripple that didn't stop Vader from basically doing everything he did as Anakin once Vader was put into the armor he pretty much spent the first 5-6 months completely rebuilding and retraining himself to fight both in and out the suit Vader would occasionally take the armor off in his castle and due battle mediation and saber training without the armor on because the constant agony of near suffocation and exposure to unfiltered air would only grant him more power within the darkside. Vader is in essence very similar to Guts from Berserk. is damn near crippled yet is still built like hugh jack-man.

@sharp7079

3 жыл бұрын

He's a big boi, 6'8 and 265 lbs

this is why Vader was miles above Maul when it came to just out right raw power on top of being the chosen one his darkside power source and well of power to pull from was practically limitless. because Maul's hatred was mostly projected onto others mostly Sidious and Obi-wan and Hated for others tends to burn out and fade from time to time due to life's other distractions but Vader's Anger and hatred was towards himself he didn't hate Sidious he hated that he was fooled by him and played by him and he hates that that HE is the reason why he's in this state. no hatred is more potent than hatred at one's self. Anakin's Psyche is what tortured him more than the Suit did.

Legends Vader: *force chokes canon Vader* You don't know the power of Fashion Side. I must wear a cape.

That’s like Yoda but not being green...

@trysten9198

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that's in kotor

@RexxZProductions

3 жыл бұрын

@@trysten9198 😂😂😂

@jor1456

3 жыл бұрын

omg how to unimagine

@bigwsly

3 жыл бұрын

Blue yoda

If I remember correctly his cape is blaster resistant and has Beskar threads to give some protection from lightsaber slashes to his back.

Capeless Vader isn’t new, he was capeless in his meditation chamber in The Empire Strikes Back.

@zaab-yaoh9302

3 жыл бұрын

Ok

@StarWarsTheory

3 жыл бұрын

it's a joke mate

@jimmysavile8391

3 жыл бұрын

The dark side of Jim is a pathway to many abilities some considered to be unnatural

When i had the action figures as a kid…. Those 70’s/80’s figures had those cheap plastic capes that would wear off…… i remember having the vader figure lose his cape and it looked f-ing stupid !

@StarWarsTheory

3 жыл бұрын

ah man I remember those! The capes could pop off on some of mine from the 80's/90's

He was only capeless for that one scene when he was being rebuilt, by the end of the comic he had a cape again.

The only canon that matters is head canon. Vader wears a cape. End of story.

@connor_phillipz5689

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@blazefa.

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck Disney canon

@nicko1641

3 жыл бұрын

@@blazefa. cry

@rubbersoul9462

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t like Disney either but, he doesn’t wear a cape in empire when choking admiral ozzel

@EvanHBogle

3 жыл бұрын

And you wear pants, but I doubt you wear pants 24/7

"No capes" - Edna from The Incredibles

Fighting a capeless Vader would intimidate me more because it looks like he can move fast and he just looks like he's gonna beat the crap outta you instead of using a saber or the force

One other thing, the Emperor doesn’t have control of the crystal. He’s showing Vader that it doesn’t bother him where it’s causing Vader considerable pain.

Thank you for all of your hard work in bringing forth this form of media.

I am so glad I found this video. That last Channel I was watching this story from had the videos all mixed and it was really hard to tell which order to go with...

23 years ago after duel on Mustafar and after Darth Vader got burn: Darth Vader: Wait. You want to make me a new suit? Darth Sidious: You push too hard, my young apprentice. But I accept. It will be Darkest. Scariest! Villainy! Darth Vader: Yeah, something that Sith wear back old days of The Old Republic, like Darth Malgus! Oh! He had a great look! Oh, the cape and the boots... Darth Sidious: No capes!

Respect for the true loyal fans who got here early enough to see this

@dancho0012

3 жыл бұрын

Yay

@barozzi_

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you too

@kadensharpin2156

3 жыл бұрын

@Andre 2x facts

@adriel.510

3 жыл бұрын

@Madfront Stfu rude

Your videos help me get through school, ngl. Currently watching this while doing homework, this keeps me going haha

Usually when fighting most saber weilders drop the cape or robe. It restrict movement and provides unnecessary air drag

@fersho450

3 жыл бұрын

Yet Vader keeps it until he loses it by circumstances

@enzoamore8971

3 жыл бұрын

@@fersho450 I guess its because his arms can't go all the way back there like that to pull the cape off lol

Star Wars saying Vader wasn’t powerful enough to betray Palpatine by himself and that’s why he needed Luke is more than enough for an explanation. We don’t need all the Exogol stuff, it makes no sense

@yggunshot8402

3 жыл бұрын

Thats so bland and boring, I think its much more interesting when it is more complex and there is something preventing him from doing it. Although, it definitely didn't need to be the exegol plot because of the inconsistencies it may create.

@botchedoperations3485

3 жыл бұрын

Well it was poor writing😂😂. It they wouldnt had try to force rey into the skywalker family and give her a better story line I think it would of worked

@marco002

3 жыл бұрын

don't accept everything sw theory says.. he is confusing legends and canon soo many times.. like at the beginning of this vid he says Vader's power was reduced because of Mustafar.. which is not true in canon.. in canon Vader didn't lose midichlorian like in legends so he was not weaker at all.. he was just limited by his suit, even if Sidious let him modify his suit as he sees fit (in 1 of theory's vid he again confused canon and legends and he said Vader's suit was outdated which is legends, the canon Vader comics starts with that Sidious let Vader do anything he wants with his suit as he and the suit are one) Sidious is 10/10 and Vader is 10/9, so yes, Sidious is more powerful but not because Vader is weaker because of Mustafar but because he is limited by his suit (+ just think about that Vader is the master of Djem-So, while Sidious is the master of all the 7 ligthsaber form.. not like he needs any lightsaber against Vader)

@Ruylopez778

3 жыл бұрын

@@yggunshot8402 "I think its much more interesting when it is more complex" The saga 1-6 shows you that Palpatine manipulated Vader psychologically, and Vader is full of fear because of his attachment to his mother and lack of a real father figure. That's more complex than the unnecessary bullshit from comic trying to insert a retcon into a saga where it doesn't belong. Complicated doesn't necessarily mean sophisticated.

@bigwsly

3 жыл бұрын

@@yggunshot8402 it would be far more interesting if vader never lost his potential it was jjst his mind keeping him from UNLIMATED POWAH

A cool issue and awesome to be early love your content man! May the force be with you. From Australia

*“I feel naked, my master”*

I really love your videos! Please keep up the great work!

I love these vader comic videos, Keep it up!

Love these Theory! Thanks man. Keep up the great work.

3:19 got to wonder what type of pain Palpatine uses to fuel his power!

Vader: *removes cape* Kylo Ren: I’ll finish what you started, grandfather

Everyone is talking about capeless Vader, but I’m more interested in Jacked Jabba at 5:11

@seanthat0126

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I was looking for this comment 😂

@captaincrunch784

3 жыл бұрын

He hit the gym

I Have Been Looking Forward To This

Thanks for covering this series :)

Binge watching at work man . Good content

Love you and your content bro

gave me those _searching the basement for the cape i lost for my vader figurine when i was 8_ vibe

kid cutting himself His mom: “OH MY GOD! TIMMY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?! STOP PLEASE!” “Relax mom, I’m just tapping into my dark side”

@zaab-yaoh9302

3 жыл бұрын

Lame

Dude I applaud your raw honesty. I think your feelings reflect a large portion of the fan base. Although I’m just grateful Disney are just trying to make sense of the unnecessary mess they created, I share your disappointment with the handling of the IP. This and nerd theory are real, honest and objective and I look forward to your video posts each day! Please keep it coming! May the force be with you guys !

Love your vids man love you bro

5:14 And, I thought things couldn't get any hotter.

@Daniel-jq7xu

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah since when was Jabba a swol guy lmao

I'm glad you added #11 at the end... I saw the original vid but bc of the name some people might not have clicked on it bc they didn't know it was #11

I really enjoy it slot when you read from the comic books you give them more feeling and it makes it like you are involved in the comics also so keep it up and keep them coming and I can't wait until the next one and just a quick question when will we get to see the second part of your fan movie I can't wait to see it so keep everything it's really great your friend Jon daniels

Your explanation of how to “respectfully disagree” is priceless. A good lesson in all of life’s negotiations.

Great content! 🙏🏼

Agree with Theory, I love the look of Vader in this! He looks boss! I can’t stand them trying to force into this a way to make sense of the sequels. It just feels like it was written to try and fix all the issues with the sequels.

Didn't Darth Vader removed his cape in his meditation chamber in TESB though?

@fersho450

3 жыл бұрын

And in the fangirl comic also Lost it (because she took it XD)

@dereklopez9060

3 жыл бұрын

@@fersho450 Oh god, I completely forgot about that comic, he straight up murdered her when she saw his face.

You are being honest , that's why I'm still subscribed . Thanks Star Wars Theory.

All I want to see is Vader with a cape AND a hood over his helmet.

That's how my vader action figure looked after I had it about 2 days as a kid. We didn't get to watch it whenever we wanted yet, so by the time RoTJ came out, I had forgotten he had a cape.

Edna Mold approves

At 2:33 Palpatine looks like Freddy Krueger. He must use a clawed glove to conduct all that lightning he's been shooting at people and we've missed it after all this time! I wonder if Vader has a hockey mask and machete in his meditation chamber. You know, I bet his name's not even really Vader, his mother probably called him Jason or something cool like that... :D

On my way to work, but that wont stop me from listening

yeah even edna from incredibles would be like NO CAPE but ...for him i make an exception happy vader giggle

Linear order was preserved. I think the bit about Han and the Corellian Repair place was Vader reminiscing further back to some point between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.

I’m so freaking excited!!!

Capeless Vader just sounds like my Vader action figure I had when I was a kid

He looks better without the cape! I love it!

I saw the previous issue, but here, have some sweet sweet watchtime man ;)

Lmao Jabba with abs 🤣

I love videos like this, old school SWT.

Hi theory your one of my favorite KZreadrs

You should do this for the War of the Bounty Hunters comics issues. The prelude was pretty good and the first issue was great

Hey theory, you probably won’t see this, but in regards to the last bad batch episode, I was confused on how they would have removed echo’s chip without damaging the technology in his brain. Would really appreciate a video theorizing how they did it.

Sick video as per usual! But wtf is that music beginning at around 1:40? I need to know😂

The Into the Fire arc could've been so much better if they just left Exegol out of it. Like they could've done so much more and yet they didn't and that upsets me.

Your Emperor voice is on point!

War Of The Bounty Hunters is a huge crossover event going on in the comics right now between all the different Star Wars titles (SW, Vader, Bounty Hunters, Aphra) and the main title simply called War Of The Bounty Hunters. The premise takes place when Han Solo is frozen in Carbonite and everyone in the galaxy is trying to get to Han while Boba Fett tries to keep his prize he got in Empire.They actually reintroduced Qira from the Solo film in the first issue, I'm pretty exited too see where that heads (cat fight with her & Leia 👀)

Is that you doing all the voices for Vader in the Emperor? They’re really good!

He was literally capeless in empire strikes back, in the meditation chamber

I LOVE the prequels. Yup, I just said that. 😀

@inarencommander4663

3 жыл бұрын

No shame. Lots of people love the Prequels.

@davidordaz5251

3 жыл бұрын

Me too the prequels are awesome and always will be

@juansanchez209

3 жыл бұрын

As much as some oldheads don't want to hear this, we've reached a point where the majority of the fandom loves the prequels. Not only did some (obviously not all) older fans always love the prequels all along, but the generation that grew up on them not only loves them, but it is this "prequel generation" that is now the most active on social media and drives the conversations surrounding Star Wars online.

@radstaz2029

3 жыл бұрын

thats not controversial anywhere

@michaelkean5969

3 жыл бұрын

@@juansanchez209 it just took the sequels to realize that the prequels could have been worse. the prequels stumbled but they stumbled uphill because they added to the lore the story and gave us some of the best star wars content in the games,both clone wars shows and the best era of the universe. the ST on the other hand stumbled and tumbled right back down the hill and it wasn't even a quarter of the way up.

Amazing voice acting !

It's been a thing since I forgot to put the cape on my lego vader.

He shows up capeless sometimes omg Battlefront 2 and he looks like some kind of badass assassin

honestly, i always kind of wondered about this. because the rest of the suit is essential to survival but there is no in-universe reason why he needs a cape.

@captaincrunch784

3 жыл бұрын

He just wanted to be stylin'

Yup Genaral Theory like I said before I Will Always support you and like these 👍 But anything that goes into sequel's is Not for Me if it works with Others Good on Ya but that's what I think You Rock Brother

Your palpatine is actually amazing

it seems vader is taking fashion advice from edna mode

Just a fun tid bit. If you pay really close attention in the empire strikes back (when vader is sitting in his chair), he actually is not wearing his cape.

Just look on the Armor of Anakin which he had used as a General in The Clone Wars. It has a lot of similarities to the later Darth Vader Armor.

Gud job this was a banger

Reminds me of the vader capeless variant in soul calibur 4🤔

Vader without his badass cape just isn’t right. It’s like Qui-Gon without his beard… it ain’t right.

@jonathanm4738

3 жыл бұрын

That will be cursed

Theory, the comic does take place after ESB, the thing is that they showed a little flashback where Vader is hunting down Solo after his little stunt at the Battle of Yavin, they tied that to the monologue where he claims Luke's friends make him weak, so now that Han's body was stolen from Boba Fett (this happened in the Alpha issue of War of the Bounty Hunters) he wants to claim Solo AGAIN, but this time, in order to well, kill him i guess. To get rid of Luke's attachments. The "Corellia: Some time later" text box in the comic was probably an editorial mistake, which tends to happen. It happened recently in the main SW comic, as Luke says that he got his new yellow lightsaber in Elphrona, when he actually got it in another planet. I don't blame you for the confusion, the structure of this particular issue is all over the place. Not to mention the fact that is now part of a bigger storyline, a promising one by the way, sort of a canon version of Shadows of the Empire. With heavy ties to "Solo: A Star Wars Story".

Love ur videos Theory, can u also give us more legends content please?

I'm pretty sure the 80% thing is not canon.

@yggunshot8402

3 жыл бұрын

It isn't anymore. Even in the exegol comic, he wasn't necessarily weaker than Palpatine (he may have been but we wouldn't know) and their fight was very inconclusive.

@NandNproductions1

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not. It one of the things I love about the new canon. It’s all psychological/emotional for why Vader didn’t kill Palpatine. Although the 80% power was George Lucas’ original vision so I understand why others would prefer that.

@StarWarsTheory

3 жыл бұрын

GL said it. It's canon to me.

@blakebrannon1604

3 жыл бұрын

@@StarWarsTheorywhy do you worship at the altar of George Lucas. He isn't the arbiter of star wars anymore.

@NandNproductions1

3 жыл бұрын

@@blakebrannon1604 He is the original creator with his own vision of the series, he prefers that version himself, which is respectable. That being said on the topic of Vader I don’t think he should bring up the 80% thing if it’s not canon to this version (Disney) of Vader.

I can't believe I lived in the Era of Starwars. I love you guys! 😭

Vader ended up where he was because of some really bad life choices and a lack of ted talks in the star wars universe

The cape looks badass tho

I love how the second installment shows Anakin’s rise to the light, slowly, kinda how the prequels slowly showed his fall to the dark. Very interesting comic and I love so many interesting stuff that is happening that is ACTUALLY CANON

I just can’t get over how much they’ve jacked up the OT

This is so cool and awesome

I don't think pain is his connection to the Dark Side. I think it's how he keeps the remnants of Anakin at Bay. His self loathing at becoming a slave again, while betraying everyone who loved him. That's his anchor to the Dark Side. Though he does hate Obi-Wan for leaving him for dead.

@Tabth3778

3 жыл бұрын

It's Pain and hate. Palpatine purposely designed the suit to cause Vader pain because it filled him with rage which is fuel to the dark side.

Vader's cape has a fancy satin edge in the films.

THIS IS ALL CONFUSING TO ME TOO MAN

“Not all villains wear capes”