Uthman’s Writings are a Lie!?! - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 41

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Last episode, Al Fadi and Dr. Jay discussed how inconsistent and unreliable carbon dating really is. Besides the inconsistencies, the dating itself can only pertain to the animal skin the script was written on - not the ink itself, so the animal skin could be far older than what the writings themselves were. Not only that, today they disclose how these parchments circulated in the ancient world. Animal skins were very expensive and usually housed in Christian monasteries, but these were all found in the north - geographically and linguistically distant from Medina where Uthman is claimed to have written. Tune in again to watch this stimulating argument!
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  • @tommyrotton9468
    @tommyrotton94684 ай бұрын

    If the Uthman edition was real then there would be a copy held. Fact there isn't even one they can produce says something

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    القران موجود من زمن النبي المصحف اللذي نسميه مصحف عثمان هو مصحف النبي انتقل لعثمان من ابنه النبي فاطمه وهو نفس المصحف الموجود في كل العالم الان المصحف عند كل المسلمين ليس فيه تغير هو نفس القران مصحف مكتشف في صنعاء هو نفس القران لاتغير فيه عن مصحف النبي مصحف في برمنجهام نفس مصحف النبي توجد مصاحف اخري في تركيا وفي مصر وكزاخستان نفس مصحف النبي ايضا مصحف مكتشف حديثا في دمشق بسوريا من زمن النبي عليه تاريخ للسنه 11من الهجره اي من زمن النبي وعلي كل صفحه خاتم النبي تم فحص المصحف بالتحليل الطيفي وبالكربون وثبت انه من زمن النبي المصحف من جلد البقر المعالج بالكيماءيات المسلمين يحتفظون بالمصاحف في بيوتهم لو ذهبت لاي منزل لمسلم ستجد مصحف يحتفظ به المسلمين يحفظون القران في قلوبهم ستجد ملاين المسلمين يحفظون القران كله ستجد اكثر من مليار مسلم يحفظ بعض من سور القران الكريم

  • @Dom66

    @Dom66

    4 ай бұрын

    ​The Quran that you are using now was canonized in Egypt in 1924😅

  • @tommyrotton9468

    @tommyrotton9468

    4 ай бұрын

    @@user-wc7ku7ud3e the 1924 hufs was picked because the Cairo university was fed up with different Qurans having different answers in exams roflol at Islams unchanged Quran claim

  • @tommyrotton9468

    @tommyrotton9468

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Dom66 Muhammad Hijab has now left the building via the bridge 🤣

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Dom66 ............... Is using the 796 Qur'an in 1924 means the canonization of the QUr'an in the later date? Why don't you consider the former date (796)? -02-13-24

  • @sheikhboyardee556
    @sheikhboyardee5564 ай бұрын

    After years of watching videos & reading articles of the research into Islam it is clear to me & to any honest person that Islam is just a copy of other religions, mainly Judaism & Christianity. No doubt about it.

  • @leechrec

    @leechrec

    4 ай бұрын

    True. Basically a corruption of Judaism and Christianity, modified to justify a political agenda.

  • @internetfairy1

    @internetfairy1

    4 ай бұрын

    You're right. The Quran is a compilation of the Christian/Judeo and Zoroastrian liturgies with Arab paganism as well.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    @@internetfairy1 ....................... 41:43. Nothing is said to you, [O Muhammad], except what was already said to the messengers before you. Indeed, your Lord is a possessor of forgiveness and a possessor of painful penalty. Nothing is also said to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) that was not said to the other messengers before him. Hence, Allah SWT said in the Qur'an that the book He sent to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) which is the Aramaic Gospel confirms what is written in the Torah. In other words, the Gospelic theology is also Ebionite, Nestorian, and pieces of other heresies that were common to Arabia/Syria. Unfortunately, you cannot find them in the 4 make-believe gospels, because they are not the original Aramaic Gospel which Allah SWT sent to Prophet jESUs (pbuh). -02-10-24

  • @alexandernorman5337

    @alexandernorman5337

    4 ай бұрын

    @@internetfairy1 And sexual fetishes.

  • @AffableCounselorNumber1

    @AffableCounselorNumber1

    4 ай бұрын

    Do you want to say that there are no differences of other religions from Islam?

  • @thejohnwhiteproject5202
    @thejohnwhiteproject52024 ай бұрын

    This is a fantastic series. Thank you so much for sharing

  • @Martin-lv1xw
    @Martin-lv1xw4 ай бұрын

    Such a wonderful job you are doing. Many blessings to you guys. Praise to the one and only Jesus Christ.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -02-21-24

  • @skydivingcomrade1648
    @skydivingcomrade16484 ай бұрын

    Please keep up the good work

  • @rockzalt
    @rockzalt4 ай бұрын

    At the beginning of the twentieth century, you could find yourself in trouble for wasting just one piece of paper.

  • @inkyfingers3447
    @inkyfingers34474 ай бұрын

    I understand a little more each time. A channel which makes people smarter.

  • @saloanyousif3308
    @saloanyousif33084 ай бұрын

    Thanks for those a great series

  • @Stratiotis_tou_Christou
    @Stratiotis_tou_Christou4 ай бұрын

    God bless you Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith ❤✝️. Christ will always rule 👑

  • @pervaizsharif2005
    @pervaizsharif20054 ай бұрын

    You are the blessing from God 🙏

  • @royramirez8626
    @royramirez86264 ай бұрын

    Excellent scholarship. Very informative.

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    القران (المصحف) موجود من زمن النبي النبي كتب القران بيده الشريفه وجمع الايات في سور وجمعها في المصحف ونسخ عدد من المصاحف ارسلها لمدن وبلاد بعيده القرأن نتلوه في صلواتنا كل يوم نردده كل يوم المصحف اللذي نسميه مصحف عثمان هو مصحف النبي انتقل من النبي بعد وفاته الي ابنته فاطمه واخذه عثمان عثمان وهو نفس المصحف الموجود في كل العالم الان المصحف عند كل المسلمين ليس فيه تغير هو نفس القران مصحف مكتشف في صنعاء هو نفس القران لاتغير فيه عن مصحف النبي مصحف في برمنجهام نفس مصحف النبي توجد مصاحف اخري في تركيا وفي مصر وكزاخستان نفس مصحف النبي ايضا مصحف مكتشف حديثا في دمشق بسوريا من زمن النبي عليه تاريخ للسنه 11من الهجره اي من زمن النبي وعلي كل صفحه خاتم النبي تم فحص المصحف بالتحليل الطيفي وبالكربون وثبت انه من زمن النبي المصحف من جلد البقر المعالج بالكيماءيات المسلمين يحتفظون بالمصاحف في بيوتهم لو ذهبت لاي منزل لمسلم ستجد مصحف يحتفظ به المسلمين يحفظون القران في قلوبهم ستجد ملاين المسلمين يحفظون القران كله ستجد اكثر من مليار مسلم يحفظ بعض من سور القران الكريم عندنا كمسلمين نحفظ القران ونتلوا القران كعباده ستجد ملاين المسلمين يوميا يقرؤن القران

  • @christopherlockwood1857

    @christopherlockwood1857

    4 ай бұрын

    Bla bla bla. His noble Hand ? Noble hands don’t try to take your money and sleep w your wife , that is a cult leader

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@christopherlockwood1857 تحياتي سيدي للاسف لم افهم كلامك

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    3 ай бұрын

    @@christopherlockwood1857 .............. Who slept with your wife and took your money? You must be dead-sleeping! -03-01-24

  • @anderslvolljohansen1556
    @anderslvolljohansen15564 ай бұрын

    Ink is not radiocarbon dated because you would need to scrape off pages of ink to get enough, whithout also scraping any of the parchment off with it.

  • @Hardworkingisway
    @Hardworkingisway4 ай бұрын

    Dr.Jay Very thanks you❤

  • @bapu8984
    @bapu89844 ай бұрын

    Keep up the good work 👍💪👍❤

  • @deltadom33
    @deltadom334 ай бұрын

    My problems is why did they want to put these sources together as you need a libary in which to put apochraphal Jewish, Christian, hellanistic sources With the birmingham folios we get partial manuscripts Why do we not get individual manuscripts of surahs Who compiled them and who were they trying to convince as the Qur'an uses apochraphal sources If it was Abdul melech if he was in Jerusalem he would have access to the actual gospels rather than apochraphal sources There is a book called the sources of the Qur'an by bill warner which he says that if you take out all the plaguarised sources you have nothing left I know with abdul melech if he compiled thr quran he would have to have access to all these sources The problem is that he had three palaces , one in damscus , Tiberius and one in the desert I know he standardized Arabiac but not many documents are left from the ummayid period as the abbasids would have to promote a book from ummayids period The abbasid didnt like the ummayids As someone would look through what he has written and tell him haman and the pharaoah didnt live together at the same time period I know for the book of jude it would have cost 1000 pounds with Randolph r richards book paul and first century letter writing Codexes are mainly a Christian thing Who decided what surahs and what order they The house of wisdom is where i think that they compiled the quran as i dont think abdul melech compiled under the ummayids, more under the abbasid With mels theory in iraq makes sense

  • @andywong9847

    @andywong9847

    4 ай бұрын

    The standard Islamic narrative have holes in it. This is according to Dr. Yasir Qadhi.

  • @AlonzoHarris235

    @AlonzoHarris235

    4 ай бұрын

    Mel believes in three gods.

  • @deltadom33

    @deltadom33

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AlonzoHarris235 Muslims believe that the trinity is three gods , Christians like me and Mel believe in one god in three persons In the Qur'an Mary is in the trinity

  • @AlonzoHarris235

    @AlonzoHarris235

    4 ай бұрын

    @@deltadom33 Is the trinity one self or three selves?

  • @deltadom33

    @deltadom33

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AlonzoHarris235 one god in three persons why do Muslims never get anything of Christianity actually right , they never bother to do the research As it is called a straw man fallacy

  • @abacaxiveer
    @abacaxiveer4 ай бұрын

    'van Putten' would be a Dutch name (meaning 'from Putten' which is a village on the Veluwe with a remarkable history). If you go for the Dutch pronounciation, Dr Jay got it right first time.

  • @xavierbesnard9201
    @xavierbesnard92014 ай бұрын

    Excellent !

  • @elijahsanders3547
    @elijahsanders35474 ай бұрын

    Jay, as a side note, you may want to check out what David W. Daniels of Chick Publications has to say on Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus.

  • @channakajananath8340
    @channakajananath83404 ай бұрын

    God bless you all

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    One verse in the Bible that made Bishop Kleopas of the Philippines convert to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. -02-19-24

  • @Kefas697
    @Kefas6974 ай бұрын

    Apakah 4 Khulafaur Rasyidin sungguhan exis di abad 7 M ?? Jika ada materi yang valid,harap CIRA Internasional bisa tayangkan,namun bukan berdasarkan dari standard Islam naratif atau dari sumber Islam lainnya tetapi berdasarkan fakta sejarah dan fakta arkeologi...terimakasih🙏

  • @RocXiety585
    @RocXiety5854 ай бұрын

    So within 100 years of the prophets death is no good. But 300 years and secondhand anonymous accounts are good? Interesting

  • @gordonbarranger4087

    @gordonbarranger4087

    4 ай бұрын

    Your talking about Haddiths right?all written 200 to 250 yrs>after muhammads death all by Ibn According to.

  • @RocXiety585

    @RocXiety585

    4 ай бұрын

    @@gordonbarranger4087 I’m talking the fact that the Quran is older than the Bible today

  • @gordonbarranger4087

    @gordonbarranger4087

    4 ай бұрын

    Your quran wasn"t canonized until 1924 brah.by the way,which Quran?you have 37 plus to choose from,Without Lies Islam Dies.@@RocXiety585

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    @@RocXiety585 ....................... You are correct because the manuscripts of the Bible are carbon-dated to the 9th century. So, the Qur'an is older than the Bible by 2 centuries. -02-14-24

  • @I.Kat.

    @I.Kat.

    3 ай бұрын

    The Quran got written after Mohammed's death. Christianity was already born. The whole thing proves that Islam is built on lies. Muslims claim it is written by Allah, but it is with him. Nobody ever witnessed that Quran. Written by humans and changed (corrupted) over time.

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch42834 ай бұрын

    Why were early Caliphs assassinated or killed in battle?

  • @mikejohnson5059
    @mikejohnson50594 ай бұрын

    The evolution and additions of suras happened over two hundred years

  • @MuslimStudy-iz2ph
    @MuslimStudy-iz2ph4 ай бұрын

    Can you do something on the book of Barnabas. It said that it talks a out Muhammad coming after Jesus, even though its known as lost books AD135 how would it know about Prophet Muhammad

  • @I.Kat.

    @I.Kat.

    3 ай бұрын

    It is pseudopigraphic, written in the late middle ages (by coincidence by a muslim). Long after Jesus AND Mohammed. Barnabas lived in the first century and the gospel of B is dated back to the 14th to 17th century. In that version they tried hard to degredate Jesus, make Paul look bad and to elevate Mohammed straight next to god. When you read Quran it always about "Allah AND his messenger". No human being is on the same level as god. It is blasphemy. The real barnabas was the teacher of Paul and appears in several epistles of Paul. Why would Christians see him as a saint if the book of barnabas would be true? We see him as saint because the book was just propaganda. He was dead and couldn't be the writer.

  • @Wise007Man
    @Wise007Man4 ай бұрын

    the style of writing shows very clearly that is not from the style of writing of Medina and the so called Mecca

  • @lukasbudiman9116
    @lukasbudiman91164 ай бұрын

    They can lie in 3 things , even oaths ,, can be redeemed ,,, if they are not kept 😢😢😢

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    ايات القران تطلب من المسلم ان يقول الصدق القران قول ان الكذب غير حسن

  • @drstevej2527
    @drstevej25274 ай бұрын

    There are all sorts of dating methods including the dating of ink as it’s almost always made by organic materials. Mind you they cite no actual peer reviewed research.

  • @KenadoCC
    @KenadoCC4 ай бұрын

    3 gods.... that's not Christianity. Allah thought Christianity has 3 gods, among them a human woman.

  • @adrudds

    @adrudds

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly🙄😂

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    الله يقول ان الاله واحد ليس ثلاثه الايه اشارت ان هناك من النصاري من امن بان مريم هي الهه وبالفعل كانت هناك طواءف تعتبر مريم الهه ابحثي وستجدي ذلك

  • @bernardmarsh4133
    @bernardmarsh41332 ай бұрын

    With you, I just say the date on the shroud?

  • @managersamuel
    @managersamuel4 ай бұрын

    Radio carbon guessing

  • @anderslvolljohansen1556
    @anderslvolljohansen15564 ай бұрын

    Could CO2 from volcanic activity skew the radiocarbon date of the Sana'a manuscript? Sana'a is surrounded by volcanic hills. There'a also a black lava field to the northwest. If so, the same animal could have eaten plants with different 14C/12C ratios as it moved between different grazing grounds. I wonder whether it could end up with different 14C/12C in the inner versus outer part of the skin as a result, explaining some of the variation between the labs.

  • @qwazse4

    @qwazse4

    4 ай бұрын

    The animals were probably far from Sana. The most likely supply chain would be a large northern city with troves of skin prepared in bulk and delivered as an item for trade.

  • @williamgarayua5878

    @williamgarayua5878

    4 ай бұрын

    📜🐐. ..Aisha's goat ate a whole chapter that was hidden under Aisha's pillow, far away from her goat's grazing grounds; This can explain something somehow, somewhere... 🤔 Maybe Aisha or her goat disliked that Revelation about Adult Breast Feeding; 😘🍼 * How many chapters where lost forever thanks to smart & compassive people?

  • @jma7600

    @jma7600

    4 ай бұрын

    @@williamgarayua5878 A very clever goat indeed who could conveniently pick and choose the right chapters

  • @anderslvolljohansen1556

    @anderslvolljohansen1556

    4 ай бұрын

    @@qwazse4 Any good reason to believe that to be probable? What did they do with the skins of the livestock that must have grazed near Sana'a and provided meat and milk for Sana'a's inhabitants?

  • @AlonzoHarris235

    @AlonzoHarris235

    4 ай бұрын

    @@anderslvolljohansen1556 You want to invent a conspiracy theory.🥴🤣

  • @flurianbacus8190
    @flurianbacus81904 ай бұрын

    "Without lies Islam dies"!

  • @kawseralam5969
    @kawseralam59694 ай бұрын

    In the Google Although born in Bethlehem, according to Matthew and Luke, Jesus was a Galilean from Nazareth, a village near Sepphoris, one of the two major cities of Galilee (Tiberias was the other). He was born to Joseph and Mary sometime between 6 bce and shortly before the death of Herod the Great (Matthew 2; Luke 1:5) in 4 bce. Why they mentioned that Jesus Christ have human father.

  • @I.Kat.

    @I.Kat.

    3 ай бұрын

    Adopted by Joseph. In Judaism a adopted child is a legal child. That child inherits even the lineage of the parents. Many prophets were even adopted.

  • @davidabramovichkosciuszko4216
    @davidabramovichkosciuszko42164 ай бұрын

    🦾

  • @leechrec
    @leechrec4 ай бұрын

    Everything about Islam is shady.

  • @sheikhboyardee556

    @sheikhboyardee556

    4 ай бұрын

    Isn't "Slim Shady" another name for Mohammad?

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    *Jesus was a Muslim. Jesus greeted people by saying "Shlama 'ahlaykhu" in Aramaic language with translated means of “Peace be upon you” (Luke 24:36). This is the same as Muslim greeting of "Assalamualaikum" which means "Peace be with you". Jesus also prayed by bowing face down to the ground like Muslim. So, Muslims or Christians are very close to the Jesus religion?* .

  • @elKarlo

    @elKarlo

    4 ай бұрын

    So a few things are similar? Your reasoning for similarity is ridiculous. So many actual theology and practices are night and day different. Jesus didn’t change the law to marry his adopted son’a wife. He also didn’t say it was ok to rape captured women

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@elKarlo *Jesus also fasted like Muslim* Jesus commanded prayer and fasting and he himself prayed and fasted (Matthew 17:21). To attain salvation in heaven is necessary to obey laws (Mark 12:29)

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@elKarlo Jesus didn't eat pork (Leviticus 11:7) and Muslims also don’t eat pork. Don’t Christians eat pork like Jesus? NO

  • @7o7-zoz97
    @7o7-zoz974 ай бұрын

    Since you guys are so interested in the truth, i suggest looking into the disappearance of Tartarian Empire because history was changed in a major way after that and may include all the scriptures and even some fake 'ancient' buildings. Edit - Hint: They are NOT destroyed by God as scripture imply but rather a competing empire.

  • @commentwell3870
    @commentwell38704 ай бұрын

    Roses are reddish, violets are blueish. If it weren't for Christ, we would all be Jewish!

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    اليهود مسلمين يتجهون للاله الحقيقي خالق الكون اله ابراهيم وموسي ويعقوب واله المسيح لكنكم للاسف مخطيئين تشبهون الوثنيات القديمه فتجعلوا من انسان اله كما فعل السابقين كرشنا ومثرا وادوناي وتموز وو وو وو كلها الهه وتحولوا لبشر كما فعلتم مع المسيح

  • @commentwell3870

    @commentwell3870

    4 ай бұрын

    @@user-wc7ku7ud3e kyk, jy wou nou seker as 'n grap in Arabies antwoord, maar Jesus Christus is on Redder en Verlosser. Die hele Islametiese geloof is gebasseer op leuens. Jesus het julle so baie life. In die Duisend-Jaar konignkryk van vrede, wanneer Satan gebind sal word, sas JULLE die reine waarheid ook hoor! Lees Openbaring 20.

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@commentwell3870 تحياتي سيدي شكرا لردك عليا

  • @chakib7318
    @chakib73184 ай бұрын

    😮

  • @abdullahakhun4316
    @abdullahakhun43164 ай бұрын

    NOT COPY BUT CONTINUM

  • @watch-Dominion-2018
    @watch-Dominion-20184 ай бұрын

    hey Al Fadi & Dr Jay, can you do a video or stream on how Hitler loved Islam and wanted to spread it across Europe?

  • @defenderoftruth3212
    @defenderoftruth32123 ай бұрын

    This issue on the carbon-dating of the manuscripts of the Qur'an is just a smokescreen to cover up the carbon-dating of the manuscripts of the Bible which are carbon-dated to the 9th century. This would mean that the Bible was written two centuries after the Qur'an. This would mean that the Bible writers copied the stories in the Bible from the Qur'an. -03-02-24

  • @mhamedkhattabi5863

    @mhamedkhattabi5863

    3 ай бұрын

    most of NT manuscripts were written on papyras and not skins

  • @IslamicOrigins
    @IslamicOrigins4 ай бұрын

    Who was Uthman? The Byzantine-Arab refers to an Etheman, not Uthman. The nearest person to that was (Et)Heman I, but he was a Jewish Exilarch. And that creates a whole host of questions as to why Islam has a Jewish leader amongst their founders. 😁😄😂

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    عثمان هو خليفه المسلمين الثالث بعد النبي حسب المرويات فالنبي الكريم مات واتي بعده منظم وحاكم ابو بكر ثم عمر بن الخطاب ثم عثمان وهو حكم تقريبا 15سنه ووجدنا شاهد قبر في شرق جزيره ايبريا (اسبانيا)) مكتوب عليه ايات من القران الكريم واسم الخليفه عثمان ابن عفان ومكتوب سنه الوفاه 27للهجره وهو نقش محير جدا لانه يناقض المرويات فحسب الروايات العرب دخلوا الاندلس في تاريخ لاحق عن هذا التاريخ مما يشكك فيمن كتبوا تاريخ دخول العرب للاندلس عثمان ابن عفان مسلم ولم يكن يهودي هو مسلم ولايوجد يهودي كتب عن الاسلام الا يهود اسلموا وكتبوا خرافات كثيره متأثرين بالقصص اللتي يعرفوها من دينهم الاول كاليهودي اللذي اسلم كعب الاحبار حاخام يهودي وابن منبه وغيرهم كثيرين أسلموا وكتبوا عن الاسلام متأثرين بخلفيتهم السابقه مكه كانت تحت حكم اماره حمير اليمنيه قبل مجيئ النبي محمد ب800سنه واليمن هي ارض التوراه فيها عاش ابراهيم وموسي ويعقوب وسليمان وداوود والمسيح كلهم عاشوا وماتوا في اليمن الا ابراهيم طرد من اليمن ومات في مكه

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    الاسلام دين واضح لم يؤسه احد هو كتاب واحد نزل علي قلب محمد فكتبه في مصحف اختبرنا مافيه فوجدناه صادق فامنا به الله قال هذا كتابي ادرسه وبعد ذلك اقلا أو ارفض تحياتي

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    Imran and Amran are two different persons. It doesn't mean that just because their names have a bit a similarity is already one person and the same. One thing I observed in you that when you came across in your reading a name or names that has similarity, or even not, to the characters in the Qur'an or Islamic history, you would jump immediately into conclusion and steal the identity. -02-13-24

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@defenderoftruth3212 عزيزي للاسف انت تظن انك تعرف الاسلام وتقوم بالقاء احكامك وتتصور انها حقيقه ياسيدي انت تخطيء في كثير وكثير من الفهم للاسلام فتقول اني اقفز عن اشياء وانتقل لاخري ليس صحيح سيدي المحترم انا عربي اعرف القران الكريم جيدا ولأجل ذلك انا مسلم عمران كلمه اتت في القران الكريم باسم شخص واحد هو رجل صالح مسلم تقي جاء ذكره في قصه مريم أم المسيح وتوجد سوره في القران ثاني اكبر سوره تقريبا ان لم تخني الذاكره سوره أل عمران تمجيدا لهذه الاسره مريم ابنه عمران فالقصه وارجو الا تتفاجأ او تنعقد لسانك المسيح ابن مريم كان في اليمن وليس في فلسطين فانتم زورتم التاريخ زورتم الجغرافيا بولس يقول انه ذهب الي العربيه فهناك بولس عرف قصه المسيح وكتب عنه واضاف وحزف وصاغ قصه اخري تلقفتها روما وصنعت اناجيل نسبتها لمرقس ومتي ولوقا ويوحنا وتم خداع الناس بقصه منقوله من قصه اخري فمخطوطات قمران تكلمت عن جماعه مؤمنه وهي تتبع المسيح قبل قرن من وجود يسوع حسب روايه اناجيلكم جماعه قمران ما اسمهم؟ انتم تطلقون عليهم اسم الأسينين نعم هم كذلك لكن مامعني الاسم الأسينين؟ الاسينين =العيسوين اتباع المسيح ابن مريم عيسي بالاسم العربي بالنطق العربي فاليونان ترجموا عيسي الي ايسو وعندما نطلق الاسم علي جماعه تتبعه نقول الايسينين باليونانيه = العيسوين بالعربيه الاقدم ياعزيزي النقوش اصدق من اي روايه او كتابه معنا اثر مكتشف في اليمن كنيسه المسيح من القرن الثامن قبل مولد يسوع بولس بثمانيه قرون ومعنا نقوش باسم المسيح في اليمن هذه الكنيسه تم الكشف عنها من بعثه امريكيه سنه 1986 وتم نشر تقريران لعالمين امريكيان اما التقرير الثالث للعالمه الامريكيه من اصل فلسطيني د فلم يسمحوا بنشر تقريرها عن اكتشاف الكنيسه ووجود الصليب وشخص يمسك في يده بالصليب وعلي رأسه عقد من الورود وخلف راسه هاله النور للشمس في رواياتنا العربيه هناك مسيحين منذ 2400سنه جنوب غرب السعوديه الحاليه أو شمال ملكه حمير اليمنيه في نجران في القران شخص واحد حمل اسم عمران هو والد مريم ح

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    @@7qiraatequals1book ................ The Qur'an is revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). So, it is not surprising that Allah SWT would specifically addressed the verse or verses to him by mentioning his name. You should expect that. Maybe if you have the original Gospel which Allah SWT sent to Prophet jESUs (pbuh), you'll also find his name being mentioned in it. And just like Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qur'an, Prophet jESUs (pbuh) name would have been also the least being mentioned it, since the original Gospel is also revealed to him. So, there is no need for mentioning the name of the recipient of the book of Allah SWT many times. After all the book is already addressed to him. -02-14-24

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e
    @user-wc7ku7ud3e4 ай бұрын

    القران (المصحف) موجود من زمن النبي النبي كتب القران بيده الشريفه وجمع الايات في سور وجمعها في المصحف ونسخ عدد من المصاحف ارسلها لمدن وبلاد بعيده القرأن نتلوه في صلواتنا كل يوم نردده كل يوم المصحف اللذي نسميه مصحف عثمان هو مصحف النبي انتقل من النبي بعد وفاته الي ابنته فاطمه واخذه عثمان عثمان وهو نفس المصحف الموجود في كل العالم الان المصحف عند كل المسلمين ليس فيه تغير هو نفس القران مصحف مكتشف في صنعاء هو نفس القران لاتغير فيه عن مصحف النبي مصحف في برمنجهام نفس مصحف النبي توجد مصاحف اخري في تركيا وفي مصر وكزاخستان نفس مصحف النبي ايضا مصحف مكتشف حديثا في دمشق بسوريا من زمن النبي عليه تاريخ للسنه 11من الهجره اي من زمن النبي وعلي كل صفحه خاتم النبي تم فحص المصحف بالتحليل الطيفي وبالكربون وثبت انه من زمن النبي المصحف من جلد البقر المعالج بالكيماءيات المسلمين يحتفظون بالمصاحف في بيوتهم لو ذهبت لاي منزل لمسلم ستجد مصحف يحتفظ به المسلمين يحفظون القران في قلوبهم ستجد ملاين المسلمين يحفظون القران كله ستجد اكثر من مليار مسلم يحفظ بعض من سور القران الكريم عندنا كمسلمين نحفظ القران ونتلوا القران كعباده ستجد ملاين المسلمين يوميا يقرؤن القران

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 تحياتي سيدي شرف لي ان انال تعليق منك لكن للاسف لم افهم المثل اللذي قلته لي

  • @shihabshihabi375
    @shihabshihabi3754 ай бұрын

    And those who argue concerning Allah after He has been responded to - their argument is invalid with their Lord, and upon them is [His] wrath, and for them is a severe punishment. Islam has been overtaking all other religions and leaves the dogs bark.

  • @leechrec
    @leechrec4 ай бұрын

    Allah is being beaten by the Internet 😂

  • @mikejohnson5059
    @mikejohnson50594 ай бұрын

    Moe and the Quran compilers never mention the Quran in the Quran

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    حبيبي القران لم يجمعه أحد من الناس القران الكريم كتب اياته النبي بيده الشريفه وجمع السور وجمع المصحف و عمل مصاحف وزع بعضها علي بعض صحابته وارسل بعض المصاحف لمدن اخري

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    The Qur'an has been mentioned several times. How could you know when you have not read it? This shows you have not read it. -02-14-24

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    حبيبي انا اقرأ القرأن كثيرا هل تعرف من أكون؟ انا مسلم لايؤمن الا بالقران الكريم فقط انا لا أؤمن بالتراث الاسلامي احاديث نسبوها للنبي بعد موته بقرون لا نؤمن بها سيره قالوا انها حياه النبي لا نؤمن بها ونعتبرها أكاذيب انا مسلم لايؤمن الا بالقرأن فكيف تقول أني لا أعرف القرأن؟ @@defenderoftruth3212

  • @AffableCounselorNumber1
    @AffableCounselorNumber14 ай бұрын

    You are mistaken; Uthman wrote nothing.

  • @Kumarapwmss1989

    @Kumarapwmss1989

    4 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @AffableCounselorNumber1

    @AffableCounselorNumber1

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@garybowings1538 He only copied from what was already in recorded form. The prophet recited the Quran before his nine Katibs (clerks) and they recorded it to have the whole Quran in written form. That copy was preserved with one his wives and Thabit R copied from it. It does not help you in any way.

  • @AffableCounselorNumber1

    @AffableCounselorNumber1

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 1. No games are here. It is your foolishness to search for games in everything of Islam. It is because, you weigh everything on the scale of Christianity, a religion of falsehood. 2. Intact Quran was with Hafsa R. The copyists tried to accumulate all other scattered ayats if there were any. It does not mean that everything was in disarray as the liars among you feign to discover. 3. No Quran was ever burnt by any Muslim. The third caliph sent the copies of the Quran to different provinces and ordered to follow those copies, and to burn the scattered fragments if there were any in any place of those provinces. That was all. It was done to safeguard the purity of the copies of the Quran. Bad people may interpret this in bad ways, but be sure, no Muslim cares for such bad views of people. .

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 عزيزي للاسف انت تقول ماكتبه بعض المسلمين هم قالوا ذلك بالفعل لكن هل كانوا صادقين ؟لا هم كذبوا لانهم ارادوا ان يعطوا مجد الي عثمان انه حفظ القرأن من الضياع وان هناك نقل للحدث عن طريق الروايات الشفاهه هم ارادوا صنع حادثه سابقه ليصنعوا اسلام اخر اسلام مخالف لتعاليم النبي هذه الروايه اللتي تقول ان عثمان جمع المصحف تم كتابتها بعد وفاه النبي ووفاه عثمان بماءتي سنه 300سنه او 400سنه فهل نثق في روايه أو قصه كتبها أحدهم بعد الحدث بقرون وهو لم يشاهد او يعاصر الاحداث؟ لو حضرتك عربي وقرأت اي مصحف ستجد مستحيل ان يكون هناك كاتب للمصحف غير النبي الكريم محمد فالكذبه قالوا ان محمد لايعرف القراءه والكتابه لكن الحقيقه النبي يكتب ويقرأ في رسم الكلمات تأتي كلمه مثل نعمه نجدها في ايات نعمه وايات نعمت وايضا نجد كلمه رحمه بالتاء المقفوله واخري بالتاء النفتوحه وفي كل رسم للكلمه معني مختلف هذا ليس في قواعد اللغه العربيه لكن في القران فقط هناك عشرات الأدله اللتي تثبت ان الروايات كاذبه صنعها اعداء لمحمد اعداء للاسلام ياسيدي الكريم ستجد عشرات القصص عن العبيد تمتلك انسان تبيعه او تشتريه تتاجر في جسده تتاجر في احلامه وامانيه هل هذا عمل جيد؟ عشرات الاحاديث نسبوها للنبي عشرات القصص تقول ان النبي اقر العبوديه كل هذه الاكاذيب تم صنعها بعد وفاه محمد بقرون 200سنه او 300سنه او 400سنه ياسيدي لو فتحت المصحف لن تجد اي ايه تعلم بالعبوديه لن تجد تعليم ابدا يسمح ببيع وشراء انسان لاخر القران ليس فيه ذلك المسلمين كذبوا واتوا بالعبوديه من ديانات سابقه ونسبوا اقوال للنبي بعد موته لم يستطيعوا ادخالها في المصحف لان المصحف تم نشره بين الناس فامكانيه اقحام ايه تعلم بالعبوديه ليس ممكن ايضا تجد المسلمين عشرات القصص عن زواج النبي بسيدات 9 او 13 او وتجد اقوال نسبوها للنبي تدل انه يسمح بزواج الرجل باكثر من زوجه روايات كثيره تقول ذلك لكن لو حضرتك فتحت المصحف لن تجد ابدا ايه تقول ان الرجل يتزوج باكثر من زوجه هم سيفهمون خطأ ايه واحده لان عقولهم مليئه بفهم سابق من الاحاديث والروايات ان الرجل من حقه يتزوج بامثر من زوجه فيسقطون فهمهم ويحرفون المعني الحقيقي للايه لتحقق رغباتهم وشهواتهم انا مسلم واعرف كيف حرف المسلمين الاسلام لكنهم ابدا لم يقدروا ان يحرفوا القران او يغيروا اياته لالشيء الا لان محمد اغلق عليهم الطريق جمع الايات والسور وعمل مصاحف وزعها علي الناس تحياتي د

  • @juanfl3
    @juanfl34 ай бұрын

    Copy paste

  • @muhammadlatiff
    @muhammadlatiff4 ай бұрын

    !! What come correct in koran and Hadith?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ethercruiser1537
    @ethercruiser15374 ай бұрын

    So you are dating the skin of the manuscript and not the ink when it was written in radiocarbon dating! VERY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE!

  • @pervaizsharif2005
    @pervaizsharif20054 ай бұрын

    Only one way, Jesus Christ is the way of heaven 🙏🙏🙏

  • @PerpetualPreponderer
    @PerpetualPreponderer4 ай бұрын

    Please please consider doubling the length and content of each episode. It’s too short at the moment. The people watching this type of stuff aren’t your typical low attention span drama seeking folk looking for mind numbing content. We prefer long form.

  • @touficalameddine6282
    @touficalameddine62824 ай бұрын

    As for these two people....WITH RESPECT 🙏 They know nothing about Islam.

  • @mozi4305
    @mozi43054 ай бұрын

    In the Quran surah no 2 , Iaaat no 133 and Surah no 114 , Iaaat no 3 , says that ~ ilaaaha or El ~allah Meaning The God and Al~allah meaning same as The God , then Why Laaa ilaaaha ( Not The God ) But Except Allah ( The God ) ???

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    القران كل اياته تدعوا الي اله واحد الله الايات تقول ليس هناك اله الا الله فقط حضرتك فهمت خطأ تحياتي

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    لا اله الا الله الجزء الاول (لا اله = ليس اله ) ويأتي مكمل الجمله (الا الله = الله فقط) فيكون المعني لايوجد اله غير الله فقط 💐

  • @mozi4305

    @mozi4305

    4 ай бұрын

    @@user-wc7ku7ud3e See Quran Surah No--2 , Iaaat No--133 and Surah No- 114 , Iaaat No--3 , Says That -- ilaaaha or El-allah = Ellaha meaning The God , and Al-allah = Allah Meaning The God , Then Why Laaa ilaaaha ( Not the God ) But illaa Allah ( Except The God ) ,

  • @mozi4305

    @mozi4305

    4 ай бұрын

    @@user-wc7ku7ud3e See Quran - 2 : 133 and 114 : 3 , says That -- ilaaaha meaning The God ,

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    حبيبي للاسف لم أفهم ماتقصده لكن حسب مافهمت من كلامك الله ليس الرب بالفعل كلمه الله في القران لاتعني طول الوقت الرب فالله هو اسم الاله لكن الرب (the God) تأتي حسب سياق الايات فتأتي بمعني الاله =الله واحيانا تأتي بمعني الملاءكه أو أحد الملاءكه (ملك) وتأتي أحيانا بمعني مالك او صاحب بمعني الملكيه احيانا فنقول رب العمل بمعني صاحب العمل أو نقول ربه المنزل بمعني صاحبه ومديره المنزل وهكذا هذا مافهمته من كلامك

  • @user-rj8py9ld3j
    @user-rj8py9ld3j4 ай бұрын

    Why is Our God a jealous God? God knew us before Adam and Eve and the foundations of the world; we were always in His foreknowledge, where there is no beginning or ending. We originated from God; therefore, all things are eternal. However, sin entered the hearts of man through Adam and we became separated from God. But God has a way of getting us back; he sent his only begotten Son to seek and save that which was lost (John 3:16, Luke 19:10). God's jealousy burns for us because we belonged to him first. But all who reject him and his Son for Satan will know the Father’s furious passion and wrath. And they will never return to God again.

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    عزيزي من اين فهمت ماتقول؟ممكن اثبات علي ذلك؟

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    No one will not return to Allah SWT. To Him is our return. And by Him, we will be judged. Prophets which include Jesus and Muhammad will serve as our guide on how to gain Allah's mercy and forgiveness so that when we return to Him, we will not be thrown into the raging fire of Hell. -02-14-24

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    No one will not return to Allah SWT. To Him is our return. And by Him, we will be judged. Prophets which include Jesus and Muhammad will serve as our guide on how to gain Allah's mercy and forgiveness so that when we return to Him, we will not be thrown into the raging fire of Hell. -02-14-24

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@defenderoftruth3212 حبيبي 🌹 بالفعل الانبياء كلهم جاؤوا ليهدوا البشر الي طريق الله وسنقف جميعا امام الله ليحاسبنا علي عملنا أرجو ان تجيب سؤال انت تري المسيح نبي أم اله🪴؟

  • @user-rj8py9ld3j

    @user-rj8py9ld3j

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@defenderoftruth3212 Allah is a false god. And the one true God is a jealous God. To have ANY other God above the one true God, the Father, is blasphemy. "But to us there is but *one God, the Father,* of whom are all things, and we in him; and *one Lord Jesus Christ,* by whom are all things, and we by him." The only way to God is by Jesus. Confess Jesus and God the Father will forgive (1 John 4:12-15). Amen.

  • @michael18811981
    @michael188119814 ай бұрын

    Without lies Islam dies

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    ليس في الاسلام اكاذيب ارجو ان تقرأ لتعرف ان الحقيقه هي الاسلام من فضلك افتح جوجول واقرأ ترجمه للقران تعرف عليه بدلا ان تبني موقفك علي ماتسمعه من الناس تحياتي

  • @Nigel-wu5lj

    @Nigel-wu5lj

    4 ай бұрын

    Give Sam Shamoun a call...

  • @michael18811981

    @michael18811981

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Nigel-wu5lj what for ?

  • @aln2790
    @aln27903 ай бұрын

    THE NEW TESTAMENT DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE CALLED A CHRISTIAN HOLY BOOK, BECAUSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THERE IS NO STORIES ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. THE NEW TESTAMENT ONLY CONTAINS CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN JESUS AND THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL OR JEWS, THERE IS NO CONVERSATION AT ALL BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. THE NEW TESTAMENT IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE CALLED THE HOLY BOOK OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

  • @sidauf7894
    @sidauf78942 ай бұрын

    We have the Quran produced by Imam Ali in the order the verses were revealed moments after our Prophets transitioned from this world. You have been lied too We know that the Prophet attempted to perform umrah and was stopped at Hudaybiyah which is in the direction and close to Mecca and not Petra you have been deceived We know the Prophet and Abu Bakr left Mecca to go to Medina they sort cover in a cave called Thawr which is close to Mecca and Hudaybiyah and are no way near Petra your been munipilated We know Abraham made other kaba’s for Allah Allah tells us in the Quran Both East and West belong to Allah, so wherever you turn, the Face of Allah is there. So our direction we turn is to Mecca We know Umar made an extension to the Mecca mosque and all the extension made to the kaba and mosque from the prophet Muhammad tell today both the kaba and Mosque have their history and it’s not Petra The Rocks you say we worship is false it’s the same as were you have been made by the earth from rocks building all over the earth have been made from the earth rocks cement don’t people love their houses We have our religion from Allah the Lord of All the Worlds we believe in Him we accept Him and follow Prophet Muhammad and His Family and Companions we have our guidance and Laws From Prophet Muhammad, who did exist and history confirms it, from the Roman Empire, the Egyptian empire, to the Persian empire, to the African empires, to the Arabian empires. We are happy with Allah as our Lord Muhammad peace be on Him as our Prophet We accept the Quran and Al-Islam as our way of life We can only convey and warn There is no compulsion in religion You have the chose to disbelieve or believe Weather you want Hell or Paradise it’s your choice Please stop attacking other peoples religions Peace and Love to All

  • @azem9338
    @azem93384 ай бұрын

    This is a lie, what this two guy said. Allah will punish this two individuals

  • @leechrec

    @leechrec

    4 ай бұрын

    Allah = Muhammad. And Muhammad is dead. 😂

  • @touficalameddine6282
    @touficalameddine62824 ай бұрын

    Don't want to confuse you....With respect your all ready confused with your concept of God...When God says he is ONE!!!!!!!THIS MY CHRISTIAN FRIEND IS STANDARD....SO HOW DO WE BELIEVE GOD THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE UNIVERSE AND ALL THE PROPHETS AND JESUS? OR MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS ? WITH RESPECT 🙏

  • @leechrec
    @leechrec4 ай бұрын

    The muslims in the comment section got triggered. It is quite funny.

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    حبيبي لا نثار نحن فقط نوضح الحقيقه لاخوتنا المسيحين انتم للاسف يتم تقديم معلومات غير دقيقه معلومات تخالف الحقيقه ومعلومات متحيزه ومنتقاه

  • @tfernandes8786
    @tfernandes87864 ай бұрын

    Jesus Christianity cross ✝️ is the only Living God in the whole universe Amen ✝️ 🙏

  • @leechrec
    @leechrec4 ай бұрын

    People, pray for muslims. It's very very difficult for them to leave their religion even if they know it is problematic.

  • @ogabie2612

    @ogabie2612

    4 ай бұрын

    They knew, if they leave their blood is halal to take..

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    @@ogabie2612 في الكتاب المقدس تعليم بقتل بباك وامك ان ارتدا عن يهوه لكن في القران ان حاول والديك اخراجك عن الاسلام لاتطعهم لاتحقق طلبهم لكن احسن لهم لانهم والديك فهنا الفرق بين تعليم راقي ونبيل وبين تعاليم يهوه المتعطشه للدم والقتل لكنك قلبت الامور

  • @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    @user-wc7ku7ud3e

    4 ай бұрын

    حبيبي 🌹شكرا لك أنت انسان نبيل 🌻🌺 نحن مسلمين ونؤمن بالاسلام 🌱عن قناعه وبعد دراسه وبحث طويل 🪴 الله في القران الكريم 🌻 طلب من الناس ان تدرس وتفكر لتختار الايمان 🌳 الله طلب من المسلم 🌿 ان يفكر في الكون ومافيه ان يقرأ ويعلم ويعرف ليصل الي الحقيقه الي الاسلام دين الله لكل البشر للاسف انتم لاتفكرون الا فيما تربيتم عليه سيدي هل قرأت القران ؟ ارجو ان تفتح جوجول وتقرأ ترجمه للقران فكر فيما ستقرأه ان لم تراه جديز بالتصديق ارفضه هذا حقك الله طلب من كل انسان ذلك تعرف علي القران وبعدها اقبل أو أرفض تحياتي لك سيدي لو تريدمعرفه شيء عن الاسلام انا موجود لخدمتك لو تريد طرح سؤال عن الاسلام انا سأجيبك بما اعرف 💐🌷🪴

  • @touficalameddine6282
    @touficalameddine62824 ай бұрын

    Jesus didn't die yet...

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 ....................... Prophet jESUs (pbuh) will die in his second coming after 40 years. -02-27-24

  • @AzizMeshal
    @AzizMeshal4 ай бұрын

    Better to go and figure out bible manuscripts and why Jesus becomes bigger or smaller depending on the version of bible. And the reasons behind the ignorance of Bernaba bible and early Christian writings.

  • @RafikKhan-ol4zk
    @RafikKhan-ol4zk4 ай бұрын

    Its surprising to me these christians Missionares talk a lot from behind Screen the ones that come to debate Face to face they loose badly Jay smith Apuss wood spencer They come out to debate and loose Badly

  • @adrudds

    @adrudds

    4 ай бұрын

    Other way round, Uthman has been embarrassed multiple times by Godlogic who’s probably almost half his age

  • @AzizMeshal
    @AzizMeshal4 ай бұрын

    Switch to bible research is better for you.

  • @AzizMeshal

    @AzizMeshal

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 We believe a lot efforts been made to write the text which revealed to the prophet, and they claim other manuscripts used different words, however the other manuscripts turned out 99% the same except some “synonyms” used. Which delivered same meaning not as they claim to be “different words”.

  • @kawseralam5969

    @kawseralam5969

    4 ай бұрын

    Problem is Bible have lot of version.

  • @AlonzoHarris235
    @AlonzoHarris2354 ай бұрын

    These Christians believe in three gods.

  • @almazchati4178
    @almazchati41784 ай бұрын

    Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus. It is the religion of Peter, who was Herodian Jew, or an Arab related to Herod more precisely, and was kicked out from his Sinagog because he was gay. He hated Jewish religion. He wanted to take over Jesus's church lead by brother of Jesus. When he failed, first he tried to prosecute them, and then he hijacked Jesus. Read Bart Ehrman.

  • @almazchati4178

    @almazchati4178

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 You are reading the wrong opinion. I don't need to deal with anything. There is no consensus on these matters. There is the writings of Ignatius of Tarsus from ~100 CE. Some early Christians did not believe in crucifixion. These people must be from the church of James, the brother of Jesus. It is a weird concept for God to die. There was no reason to delay his return, which was supposed to happen during the lifetime of Peter.

  • @almazchati4178

    @almazchati4178

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538If God dies, all those things you list become reasonable. Mary had a husband, Zachariyya, she had another boy with him named John the Baptist, and another boy named Jesus. Jesus apparently returned from dead for a short period, and died again. There were apparently lots of people named Jesus. His story is not essential to Muslims, and Muslims narrate his story from the accounts of former Christians. Quran's narrative is different. You keep chaning the topic. Stick to what I said instead of making Yeah arguments. That is called babbling.

  • @almazchati4178

    @almazchati4178

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 Whatever fruit you call it, it is the fruit of your Bible. You are acknowledging that what I said is true. All the things I said is enough to throw it into the garbage bin.

  • @almazchati4178

    @almazchati4178

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 This is irrelevant to what I said. Quran says nothing in your Gospels said about Jesus is true. Injeel means sickle. It is given to Jesus for him to chop off the false assertions in Torah or whatever it is called. According to your Bible, the tablets received by Moses were destroyed by him. He was raised at Pharaoh's palace, and could not possibly speak Hebrew, a language of slaves. Thus, OT has nothing to do with him. Actually Oxford Commentary on Bible states that oral tradition is the source of this material which lasted possibly until 1000CE, and changed and evolved over the years. It is folklore. Jesus was somehow given the information about the teachings of Moses. Probably there was a sect practicing Moses's original teachings there, and he was related to them.

  • @almazchati4178

    @almazchati4178

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 This is irrelevant to what I was saying. Don't try to change the subject now. You make up a lot of stories about Mohammad, like the fellows you seem to be working for.

  • @islamicthinkingtv9985
    @islamicthinkingtv99854 ай бұрын

    The Quran is not dependent on manuscripts. God has preserved the Quran through memorization. No devil can change it. This cannot be said about the books revealed to previous Prophets. All the discussion about the manuscripts in the case of the Quran is a waste of time.

  • @islamicthinkingtv9985

    @islamicthinkingtv9985

    4 ай бұрын

    @@summerhouse8205 Please read the book “The Bible, The Quran and Science” by a French physician, Dr. Maurice Bucaille. It examines both the scriptures from the point of science.

  • @islamicthinkingtv9985

    @islamicthinkingtv9985

    4 ай бұрын

    @@summerhouse8205 The Quran gives the history of nations destroyed by God for committing sins. God’s law for all times is when the sins of the people reach a certain level then God destroys them. The Quran states that God created the human being for His worship. Worship means to do what God tells him to do and stay away from what God tells him not to do. Those people who follow this plan are successful in this life as well as the eternal life after death. These are the people who have a personal relationship with God.

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m
    @user-vp8pg3zq3m4 ай бұрын

    *Jesus was a Muslim. Jesus greeted people by saying "Shlama 'ahlaykhu" in Aramaic language with translated meaning of “Peace be upon you” (Luke 24:36). This is the same as Islamic greeting of "Assalamualaikum" which means "Peace be with you". Jesus also prayed by bowing face down to the ground like Muslim. So, Muslims or Christians are very close to the Jesus religion?* .

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@jooo7011 *Anything is possible for God. Look at how big our universe is. If God can make the carpet flying, God also can make your bed flying as well. In bible, unicorns are mentioned 8 times. Also in the bible there are an ass talking, four footed fowls, seven headed leopard , etc*

  • @adrudds

    @adrudds

    4 ай бұрын

    If Jesus was a Muslim, why did He call Himself God’s Son and God His Father?

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@adrudds In original Hebrew, "Son of God" literally means "SERVANT OF GOD". Christians say that Jesus was the son of God. Proof is there in the bible. If you compare within the context of Psalm 82:6, Luke 3:38 and John 8:41 then everybody are sons of God and God the son. The phrase God the Son (of trinity) does not even exists in the entire bible so from where does Christians got this theory or term from? In bible Exodus 4:22, God declares, “Israel is my first-born son 😆

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 Allah is smarter. He just sent messenger (Prophet Muhammad) and mission accomplished. Islam is the fastest growing religion today. Jesus loves Islam very much 😄

  • @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    @user-vp8pg3zq3m

    4 ай бұрын

    @@garybowings1538 I did not delete anything. Maybe there are words blocking in here. Also, few of my replies cannot be seen by public and only I can see all my replies

  • @aaronharun1394H
    @aaronharun1394H4 ай бұрын

    The claim that Jesus is son of God is a lie. The claim that Jesus is God is a lie. Jesus prayed TO God. Jesus is NOT God.

  • @jerryczarski5991

    @jerryczarski5991

    4 ай бұрын

    God is one in three persons, or in other words three representations of the same one GOD. Jesus humbled himself to become a man yet was still GOD. He was flesh and bone and took up a physical material place in time. God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit were not and are not bound to this material state. When Jesus "prayed" he was giving us an example of what we should do. Be with God in your mind, heart, and spirit. As you see, we use language to identify thought. In one way we can say we are three persons in one body. We are a mind, a heart, and a spirit. Take it a bit further, God is the mind, Jesus the heart, and the Holy Spirit the will of action in creation all working as one unified being to bring beauty, goodness, and truth to our wounded nature. If you doubt words, think of nature. Water can be ice, liquid, and steam, but it is still only H20 not changed in essence but only in appearance and form.

  • @bocahtuanakal6009

    @bocahtuanakal6009

    4 ай бұрын

    GOD PRAYED TO THE PROPHET QS AL AHZAB 33:56 Verily God AND the angels PRAY for the prophet, O you who believe PRAY for the prophet and greet him respectfully SHOLAWAT HAS THE ROOT OF THE WORD SOLAT MEANS TO PRAY OK✌🏿👍 Innallah wa mala'ikatahu YASALUNNA 'alan-nabiyy, ya ayulyuhalazina amanu slalu 'alahi wa sallimu taslima ✌🏿😁 THE ROOT OF THE WORD YUSALLUNA (VERB) IS SALLA MEANS TO PRAY OR WORSHIP THE WORD FOR BLESSING IN ARABIC IS BARAKA SAME AS IN HEBREW

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    4 ай бұрын

    Chosen messengers of God were sent by God throughout history to warn their communities of their errors. Noah and Abraham were messengers of God who were sent to warn their communities of their errors of idolatry and the consequences of Hellfire. Idolatry is a grave error and an unforgivable sin. The only way is to repent and leave that believe and practise. Muhammad was also sent to warn the arab pagans at the time of their errors of idolatry. As an ensuing messenger who is also the final messenger chosen after Jesus, Muhammad was also sent to warn the Christians of their error of believing Jesus is God and the consequences of Hellfire. In the gospels, it is mentioned that Jesus was sent. Jesus was a human messenger of God among many human messengers of God that were sent throughout history. The human messengers of God were chosen from humans and were sent to convey message to other humans. The one God who sent Jesus is the same one God who sent Noah is the same one God who sent Abraham is the same one God who sent Moses. Jesus did not send Jesus. The one God sent Jesus. The one God is not Jesus. The one God is the most High and the one who sends, not someone who is sent.

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    4 ай бұрын

    The one God is only one. The one God is not one group of three. The one God sent messengers. The one God is not a messenger. Jesus was a messenger from a long line of messengers that includes Noah, Abraham and Moses. Messengers are chosen from men to convey message to men. And We have already SENT Noah and Abraham and placed in their descendants prophethood and scripture; and among them is he who is guided, but many of them are defiantly disobedient. Then We SENT following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Injil (Gospel). (Al-Quran 57: 26-27) Then We SENT after them Moses with Our signs to Pharaoh and his establishment, but they were unjust toward them. So see how was the end of the corrupters. And Moses said, O Pharaoh, I am a messenger from the Lord of the worlds Obligated not to say about Allah except the truth. I have come to you with clear evidence from your Lord, so send with me the Children of Israel. (Al-Quran 7: 103-105) And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. (Al-Quran 2: 87) The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. (Al-Quran 5: 75) Their messengers said to them, "We are only men like you, but Allah confers favor upon whom He wills of His servants. It has never been for us to bring you evidence except by permission of Allah . And upon Allah let the believers rely. (Al-Quran 14: 11) God sent Jesus. God is not Jesus. Allah chooses from the angels, messengers and from men. Surely, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. (Al-Quran 22: 75) There are angel messengers He sends down the angels, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that there is no ilah (deity/god) except Me; so fear Me." (Al-Quran 16: 2) Angel Gabriel is referred to as The Spirit. And mention, in AlKitab (the Book), Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place toward the east. And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Spirit (Angel Gabriel), and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man. She said, "Indeed, I seek refuge in the Most Merciful from you, [so leave me], if you should be fearing of Allah ." He said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.' (Al-Quran Translation/interpretation Chapter Mary/Maryam(19) : 16-21) Gabriel identified himself to Mary as "the messenger of your Lord". The story of Gabriel appearing before Mary(Maryam) to inform her about her future son (Jesus/Isa) is also mentioned in the gospels. *Angels informing the coming of a newborn child is consistent with angels visiting Abraham and his wife informing them about their future son, Isaac and Jacob and an angel informing Zachariah about his future son, John (Yahya), both incidents mentioned in the current gospels and in the Quran. Angel Gabriel (Jibril) is mentioned by name as the one who brought down the Quran to Prophet Muhammad: Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Jibril (Gabriel) - it is he who has brought it (the Qur'an) down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah, confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers." Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Jibril and Mikal (Michael) - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. (Al-Quran translation 2: 97-98) The one who brought it down is also referred to as below: And indeed, it (the Qur'an) is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. Has brought it down by Arruhul-amin (The Trustworthy Spirit) (Al-Quran translation 26: 192- 193) Say, [O Muhammad], "ruhulQudus (spirit of the Holy) has brought it down from your rabb (Lord) in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims." (Al-Quran translations 16: 102) Ruh Al-Quddus is mentioned in the arabic Quran. Ruh meaning spirit, Al-Quddus is one of the names of God, meaning The Holy/ All-Holy/ All-Pure. Angels have wings. [All] praise is [due] to Allah, Creator of the heavens and the earth, [who] made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent. (Al-Quran 35: 1) Who did Jesus actually see descending that is mentioned in the gospels. [Gabriel said], "And we [angels] descend not except by the order of your Lord. To Him belongs that before us and that behind us and what is in between. And never is your Lord forgetful - (Al-Quran 19: 64) God sent angels. God is not an angel. It is not for a human [prophet] that Allah should give him the Scripture and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allah," rather, "be rabbaniyyun, because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it." Nor could he order you to take the angels and prophets as arbaban (lords). Would he order you to disbelief after you had been Muslims? (Al-Quran 3: 79-80) There are angel messengers There are human messengers. God is not an angel. God is not a human. God is only one. God have no son. God is not one third of three. God is not a messenger. God sent messengers. Indeed, Allah is but one ilah (deity/god). Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. (Al-Quran 4: 171) فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ (Allah) السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْضَ According to arabic translations of the bible that you can find online, Allah (الله ) is the Creator of the heavens and the earth in Genesis 1: 1 Indeed, your rabb (Lord) is Allah, who created the heavens and earth ... (Al-Quran translation 7: 54) Alaha refers to God in aramaic. Aramaic is a semitic language believed to be spoken by Jesus. Semitic languages include hebrew and arabic and have similarities.

  • @aaronharun1394H

    @aaronharun1394H

    4 ай бұрын

    Christians should follow Jesus and solely pray to the one God who Jesus prayed to. In the Gospels is mentioned that Jesus prays to. Jesus praying to God is clear evidence that Jesus is not and should not be regarded as the one God. There is only one God. Jesus prays to the one God means that Jesus needs and relies on the one God. The one God is the most High and is Free of Need. The one God does not rely on anyone. On the contrary everyone and everything needs and relies on the one God who created and has Power over everything. The one God is the most High and is the one who should be prayed to, not someone who prays to. Jesus prayed to the same one God who Mary prayed to. Mary did not pray to baby Jesus in her womb. Jesus did not pray to Jesus. Jesus prayed to the one God. Jesus is NOT the one God.

  • @hollyaldahir5116
    @hollyaldahir51164 ай бұрын

    EARLIEST COPIES OF THE QURAN: According to Wiki: The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript are written. In 2015 the manuscript, which is held by the University of Birmingham,[1] was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE (in the Islamic calendar, between 56 BH and 25 AH).[2][3] It is part of the Mingana Collection of Middle Eastern manuscripts, held by the university's Cadbury Research Library.[2] The manuscript is written in ink on parchment, using an Arabic Hijazi script and is still clearly legible.[3] The leaves preserve parts of Surahs 18 (Al-Kahf) to 20 (Taha).[4] It was on display at the University of Birmingham in 2015 and then at Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery until 5 August 2016.[5] The Cadbury Research Library has carried out multispectral analysis of the manuscript and XRF analysis of the inks.[6]....The codex Parisino-petropolitanus is one of the oldest extant manuscripts of the Quran, attributed to the 7th century.The largest part of the fragmentary manuscript are held at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris, as BnF Arabe 328(ab), with 70 folia. Another 46 folia are kept in the National Library of Russia in Saint-Petersburg. Two additional folia have been preserved, one kept in the Vatican Library (Vat. Ar. 1605/1) and the other in the Khalili Collections in London (KFQ 60)." In any case, there is controversy as to whether this manuscript was written during the last years of the Prophet, or under Abu Bakr or Uthman, both of whom were close companions of the Prophet, were known to memorize the entire Quran and were engaged in the written preservation of the Quran. So, there is no argument about the integrity of the manuscript; that it does date from the last years of the Prophets life to no later than the caliphate of Umar ibn Affan.

  • @mysotiras21

    @mysotiras21

    4 ай бұрын

    Hoi hum. Wiki is NOT a primary source, and is frequently inaccurate. I told you this the last time you cited it. FYI, the Birmingham folio is NOT a Qur'an. It is a mere TWO PAGES of material that EVENTUALLY made it into the Qur'an. those 2 pages contain stories that were popular and well-known in the 7th century, so they could hardly be called "revelations" from some god. Moreover, the dates of Birmingham (568-645) CONTRADICT the standard Islamic narrative. The earliest is before Muhammad was supposedly born, while the latest is before Uthman made his famous recension. Try a little harder, peanut. Your own religious leaders do not place too much weight on the Birmingham material, for the reasons I just outlined.

  • @defenderoftruth3212

    @defenderoftruth3212

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mysotiras21 ........................ 41:43. Nothing is said to you, [O Muhammad], except what was already said to the messengers before you. Indeed, your Lord is a possessor of forgiveness and a possessor of painful penalty. Nothing is also said to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) that was not said to the other messengers before him. Hence, Allah SWT said in the Qur'an that the book He sent to Prophet jESUs (pbuh) which is the Aramaic Gospel confirms what is written in the Torah. In other words, the Gospelic theology is also Ebionite, Nestorian, and pieces of other heresies that were common to Arabia/Syria. Unfortunately, you cannot find them in the 4 make-believe gospels, because they are not the original Aramaic Gospel which Allah SWT sent to Prophet jESUs (pbuh). -02-10-24

  • @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo

    @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo

    4 ай бұрын

    The 2 pages contain nothing Islamic, probably written by an heretical antitrinitarian Christian Arab sect.

  • @anderslvolljohansen1556

    @anderslvolljohansen1556

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@mysotiras21Try being polite next time. "Be respectful " is what KZread expects of the commenters. If you're a Christian, ask yourself whether Jesus would approve.

  • @touficalameddine6282

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    S​@garybowings1538 sorry jesus didn't even die yet.....

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