Pleasure to meet you, Winston! We’ll link up again

@alexjustme1982

2 жыл бұрын

you felt a bit bad for killing him like that, right?👏😁 Very interesting to see the diff rec.level/pro.

@petestation

2 жыл бұрын

WoW, Karue you play very fluidly, consistent and powerful. You are also a natural teacher, even during match play you told Winston to keep feet mobile during return of serve. So nice of you. Already subscribed to your channel! Big fan.

@ssenssel

2 жыл бұрын

Anybody who has played professional level anything, when go back to playing amateur level is almost unfair. For Karue playing an amateur must feel like child's play. No disrespect to Winston.

@deldridg

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think there was any unfair "killing" here. It was a wonderful and very informative ego-less demonstration of the difference between players at different levels. The result was probably never in doubt - all in the numbers, but such a match-up is wonderfully useful to players that aren't at pro level (like myself) to demonstrate where to develop strengths and how to be more effective playing stronger players. Full credit to both you guys - we have learned much from both of you for some time now. Cheers from Sydney - Dave

@alexjustme1982

2 жыл бұрын

@@deldridg I argee👏👏👏

I'm a 50 year old 4.0 player, but I regularly hit with a former 6.0 division I college player still in his 20s. When I first started playing with him, he constantly hit winners on me and we rarely had rallies longer than 4 shots. I kind of played like you in that I hit with a lot of topspin and the ball landed safely in the court with a lot of margin. It worked against players my own level, but it clearly wasn't working against someone far above me. I changed my game drastically in order to keep up with him. I started staying very close to the baseline and refused to get pushed back. That required me to learn how to hit the ball well on the rise. It took time away from him because if he had time, I was toast. I learned how to hit the ball deeper, even with heavy topspin. That reduced his ability to attack my shots. I made use of redirection a lot. He provided so much power, it didn't take much for me to change the direction of the ball with a short backswing and get him moving around the court. Lastly, I learned to flatten out my shots when the time was right. If you constantly use loopy topspin, it's really hard to hit winners or force errors against high level players, even if you are hitting the sidelines. Driving the ball at the right time can either produce winners or put them on their heels. It's not my natural shot, but it's something I had to develop. All of these changes went a long way to making him less comfortable and allowing me to dictate points way more often than before. Even though he's still the better player, things are way less lopsided now, and he definitely noticed. I think those adjustments would help against the high level players you play against. You're a higher rating than I am, so it should be well within your abilities.

@sliceserve234

Жыл бұрын

Very high level tennis comments! If only you could take this tennis understanding and transport magically back to your 20s.

I love how he stopped mid-game to give you advice on how to return serves, Karue is defo goated!

@msh4611

2 жыл бұрын

I really did learn a lot on returns from Karue's return video

Karue’s technique is just so beautiful. Watching him you instantly see that he used to be a pro.

Karue looked like he was walking around the court during the points. So smooth it’s almost unfair.

@harryp3804

2 жыл бұрын

Early ball recognition

@DNA2000-8bit

Жыл бұрын

That's really the main takeaway I had. If you've ever hit against someone with pro-grade stuff, it looks like they're barely moving. That's because they no there's is nothing you're going to dust past them, so the have very little to guard against. Normals don't hit hard enough to shake them.

@harryp3804

Жыл бұрын

@@DNA2000-8bit aka early ball recognition, it might seems they not moving at all but they are actually putting in alot of work

@davidhale8034

Жыл бұрын

@@harryp3804 you get that we can see your previous comment, really no need to repeat yourself.

@Obiwantuan

10 ай бұрын

Karue kept the ball deep in the center of the court alot with pace, not really a chance to create angles to make him move unless you are as high of a level as he is.

On KZread you have Tennis instructors who can not hit a top spin backhand and giving instructions on how to hit a backhand. Karue is the real deal. Great player but also excellent on explaining the correct technigue and how to take your game to a higher level

Very nice of you putting Karue on the camera side. Pros move so efficiently even when you make good shots

Man you can see how much work and skill Karue put into refining his game. Every stroke and serve seemed like he was putting in 80% of his game. Looked pretty effortless. Reminded me of how my friend (who played on the Futures and pre at events) hit. So smooth and skillful! Winston you definitely held your own, keep going and you'll continue to get better bro!

As a high school player it’s so nice to watch high level tennis content like this. Karue is the definition of a goated tennis tuber and tennis player!

@thelonelydekuscrub4817

Жыл бұрын

Same I'm on my high school team (and pretty bad at that) and I love watching high level footage now I basically do it every day now in my free time 😂

It was really cool to see the difference in pace. When I watch videos of Karue vs Marcos Giron, they are unfazed by the pace and its deceiving to the viewer just how fast balls are because they have good footwork and good at anticipating. This video you can clearly see the difference in the quality/pace of balls between pro and club level. Many of Winston's shots were defensive as he was fighting to stay alive.

@lalafuzzy943

2 жыл бұрын

Nah Karue wasn’t going big bro... When you watch pros play, you’ll see them do many mistakes because they are pressured to hit bazookas at every shot or else the opponent will just destroy them with a winner. Here Karue knew his opponent wasn’t good enough to do that, so he cut his speed to about 75% to avoid making mistakes by making shots that aren’t even needed to win the point comfortably.

@lalafuzzy943

2 жыл бұрын

Btw Karue wasn’t holding back by hitting shots at 70-75%, he would have probably lost more points if he actually tried to go for winners because he would have done maybe twice the number of unforced errors. Of course he would still have won 6-0 comfortably.

@MB-le7tw

Жыл бұрын

@@lalafuzzy943 Agreed. He took it easy on Winston.

The rally ending at 8:45 is the best I've ever seen you play!

the best match ive ever seen involved in rec player so far on youtube. you managed to bring your best tennis but karue is just too good. bravo

it's an eye opener that at this high level of strokes, alot of them are still very safe shots, no crazy angles or down the line shots that are too risky.

@bootyshake5043

2 жыл бұрын

NOT TRUE. He wasn't trying to hit winners. Look at his channel he's mic'd up

@MrRaviden

2 жыл бұрын

He was playing to the middle to keep the game interesting, not making any risks at all, otherwise it would be no game to watch :)

@Chickeneater_69420

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRaviden look at his video on his channel

@CamCarvalhoPoetry

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRaviden Yeah he would’ve beat him in like 15 minutes 6060 you probably hit one serving and then Winston would go off in a corner and cry

@Hibore222

2 жыл бұрын

i watched a second round U.S. Open match on a side court a few years ago, and I was blown away by how low-risk so many of there shots were. It takes a lot of patience to be willing to wait for the right moment to start being aggressive. And it takes a lot of trust to believe that you can play low-risk and wait for an opening without getting blasted off of the court.

Very cool of Karue to do this, and great playing considering the circumstances Winston. Why does even the sound of the racket hitting the ball have to be so much better from great players!?

@kaizun

2 жыл бұрын

they have better contact

@jchan810

2 жыл бұрын

Pros transfer body weight into their shots better.

@RCShufty

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's called "correct technique". Something I have none of :(

@sportscastercanada

2 жыл бұрын

There’s also the fact that high end players change their strings much more often.

@jerryg9581

2 жыл бұрын

Because he hit through the ball out in front. And he did it the same every time. The strings are probably worn out with a 2-3" area on his racket.

Karue is an ATP/WTA Practice and hitting partner, & makes his living getting high-quality balls back! No way you/any of us are going to out-consistency him! He said it at the end, get balls back and the opponent will start going for broke out of frustration. Great video!

a very good rec player vs a tour lvl player. I really appreciate you made this happen.

This is awesome! We need more collabs from different tennis influencers

This is awesome.

First five seconds of watching and seeing Karue's form and positioning "oh s***, poor Winston." I love his economy of motion, so clean and efficient.

Despite what the score says, there were a lot of impressive rallies. Good job. I know I would be completely steamrolled 40-love every game by a pro-level player.

Hi Winston, I’m so proud of you for putting this out there and for the effort you showed on the court. This was some high quality hitting by you and even when you were down, you didn’t resort to desperation tactics. The set point was epic and you should bottle that point construction up and use it for all your matches. My scouting advice for playing Karue: don’t hit the ball to his forehand or backhand. 😂

@nsebast

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If I play him, my tactic would be body shots. I would smack the ball to his body lol.

Just watched Karue’s video from the other side of the court-his commentary is so on point, and the sit-down talk at the end was sharp. You hit a really nice ball when you guys played (that last point was a banger); it’s always an eye-opening experience to be across the net from a extremely high-level player. Thanks for your videos, Winston and Karue!

Fun and informative video with great concepts. I know Karue Sell as I had chaired his match where he won the $25k Heritage Banks Tennis Championships in Moraga, CA. He played exactly how he described. The same ideas he shared he used to defeat his opponents. Plus, if I am correct - he is Brasilero!! Good match.

@Tennisbull-match-statistics

2 жыл бұрын

What year was that? I’ve been there a couple of times

@victoralmager2411

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tennisbull-match-statistics It must have been 2017. Jovana Jovic and a player from Modesto, CA wons the ladies doubles.

This is the colab we didn’t know we needed. I’m excited to watch this on my lunch break.

Beautiful courts. 🌴☀️ Also have to note that was an amazing point to end this set on. Had a number of great rallies where you were able to hang with Karue for a bit. Awesome you two were able to network and link up. Was an interesting watch even despite the skill gap and wonderful advice from Karue.

The consistency of Karue is insane, so efortless putting the ball wherever he wants

That last rally was epic.

Massive Respect Winston! I have seen a few of your videos and now have subscribed. Karue is tremendous and a really nice guy. Thanks for sharing this.

This illustrates how a player of that level moves so well, and does not crush every ball. Good stuff....keep 'em coming!

@0:27 as soon as you said trying to hit to his backhand, I died laughing 💀😂 I know karue was trying his best to keep a straight face 🤣

@mikedudley9975

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I laughed out loud until Karue corrected him. Karue did make more mistakes off his backhand in this set though.

@shongthoj

2 жыл бұрын

he has a better backhand than all the former UCLA current pros maybe even osaka

@joecaldwell9881

Жыл бұрын

He got the scouting report right. Karue’s backhand was his weaker side, it was just still too solid for Winston to be able to take advantage of it.

Big respect to both of you, whenever I play a higher level player I always aim to take something from their game into mine. Thank you for th content homie.

such a cool video. Amazing how Karue makes it look so easy yet his coaching was about the basics. Thanks for doing this collab - I was always curious about how good players match up to the really really good players.

Awesome to see you both on court. Kurue just makes everything look too damn easy and effortless! Love catching his content, and of course yours Winston. Keep up the good stuff fellas.

Karue rocks!! way too smooth for against amateur, I enjoyed watching this thanks to both for sharing. The set point was 29 shots rally. Awesome. more power to your channel also to MY Tennis HQ.👏👏👏

Karue technique is so solid that you can just tell every shot is going in. The ball always hits the sweet spot

I love both your attitudes throughout the video, real insightful. Subscribed to both

Great vid !!! Love both channels. Way to hang in there Winston. Thanks for putting this together 👍

Winston, Karue, so dope you guys are supporting each other’s channels! Really neat to see how a pretty strong 4.5 player stands against a pro. Keep up the fun content Winston 🤘🏽

Great content. Cool to see the footwork & movement patterns of Karue. He hit almost every ball out in front of him and moved to the ball so smoothly.

Wow!!! Two of me favorite tennis KZread guys duking it out! Kudos to Wilson for accepting this challenge.

very impressive performance Wiston, staying on this kind of rallies against such a good player is very hard.. especially your forehand looks super solid

Thanks for posting this! You really get a sense for the gap between Pros and a high quality club player.

Hi, Winston's comment was spot on. I think the pressure comes from being out of your comfort zone. As a recreational player, it is very hard to improve and get comfortable unless one plays with advanced players more constantly. It would be nice if you both could consistently play/hit for 1-2 months and record a set again. I feel that Winston would feel more comfortable and be a more interesting match. Thanks!

Karue making the rounds with collabs, first tennis brothers and now Winston. Good to see. thanks for vid.

You should totally play Mason Tran! Most of your video's are at the Racquet Club of Irvine and I believe he trains there so it would be fun to see you or anyone else play him there!

Such a great video! It is so true that no matter the separation in rating the lower player always tries to do too much! I can tell you thatI am guilty of it for sure! I also loved the video because I think some of us wonder what it would feel like to play a pro! Well Winston, thanks for taking that one for us! Not in a hurry to try it!!

Great video!! It is nice to see you competing on such a high level :) Love to see this kind of video!

What a rally @ 8:06! It was awesome seeing you getting used to the pace of the rally as the match progressed. I am sure you had a blast!

Dude its so cool to see where you channel started and where it is now! keep it up!

It's cute how he's moving his feet, shuffling slowly, hitting at about 50% pace. I could see this guy going beast mode during a real ATP game.

@8paths996

2 жыл бұрын

That’s prob 80% of his pace lmao… He’s shuffling at more of a regular speed, it’s not that intense for him since he’s just playing a 4.5 level, his footworks are all correct and aren’t sloppy. Maybe he could, idk :0

@nsebast

Жыл бұрын

Guys like him will probably lose 6-1 6-1 to the Top 100. That's how high the bar is. World class performance is very high.

Winston you had some great rallies! Great content and Karue is very good sport thanks for doing this.

Great matchup. Such an eye-opener for weekend players. Still you did great especially on certain points. Nice match!

Much improvement on the serve 💪 glad to see the work you’ve put in

Dude what the heck!? I clicked to see the 7.0 then was like Wait, Karue??? Geez looking forward to it. Thanks for doing it!

such a cool vid! your content has been insane these days! thanks for sharing!

This was fun to watch Winston. Your opponent's split step was so on the point. Fantastic play.

Thank you! Great demonstration. Would be great to see it from the other end of the court - 4.5’s perspective. Great concept. Please make another video.

Hi Winston! Thanks a lot for this video! I love seeing KZreadr facing each other. I have 2 ideas for videos: - have Karue facing any of the coaches you usually hit with - try to organize a small tournament among KZreadrs. You could even invite your subscribers maybe

Wow! Two of my fave tennis tubers in action! 🤩

This was dope, keep up the good content, Karue is a great teacher!

Great video and great hitting from you even though Karue is on a different level. Hope to see more of Karue on your channel!

Tá maluco, Karue joga muito!!! Awesome. Its amazing how Karue plays fluid and effortless. Congrats to Winston! Nice video.

This was so great and fasinating to watch! Karue hits it so clean!

Great stuff guys. Karue, appreciate this alot. Winston what a great experience for you.

After a few videos, i subscribed to your channel today. Keep them good videos coming.

It is very nice to see side by side how a world class player is different from a top a recreational player. Especially, it was a pleasant surprise to see Karue who is one of my favorites here!

Wow, I'm a huge fan of My tennis HQ... good job man and I hope your channel keeps getting bigger!

I thought you did extremely well in the groundstroke exchanges. Some very long rallies there. Karue wasn't trying too hard, going cross court with depth but you kept up with him. Eventually though the consistency broke the deal, and of course the serve was a major difference too.

@knotwilg3596

2 жыл бұрын

(it seems that indeed he went for consistency deliberately)

@grega1972

Жыл бұрын

Thats why you press at the net , sure you will get passed at the net a few times but it puts a little bit of pressure to pass you just sayin. And the point is to keep as much of your energy as possible, oscillating left and right take a lot out of you , thats when playing an open pro will jack you up cuz they will obliterate you stroke for stroke

It's really special when you get to play someone of his level. I remember when I first started playing tennis I got to hit with a girl who was ex pro and reached high 400's in the world. It was eye opening how good she was. Karue gave you great advice on the return serve.

Karue is a pro level player, who doesn't want to go the pro circuit threadmill. He is silky smooth, and smart strategically. Also articulate and willing to share his wisdom comprehensively. Content worth watching for all of us. Do more of like equipment reviews and sorts and casual games with known pros, former greats and current likeable pros and you could be the rick shiels of tennis, growing huge fan base.

So much gratitude for this great content.

Great play you guys! Love the content!!

This is awesome, thanks Winston and Karue.

Very Cool cross overs! Keep em coming!

Awesome content man. The close-up of the pro player gives you a great perspective of the quality and what he's doing. On the other hand, you could also show a close-up of the amateur player to see the contrast and to assess what you are doing wrong.

This was Dope too watch. Karue should do a video / series where he tries to develop your game. i.e. footwork or serves .... showing the progress of learning these things he talks about.

Great collab fellas. Kudos to Winston putting himself out there and coming out with valuable learning gems for himself and all of us watching. Karue - depth + footwork + one purty looking dub backhand. Go Bruins. 🔥🔥🔥

EPIC! The KZread tennis crossover we needed!! Can you get Karue to play a set vs. Coach Chase?

Thanks for posting this play. After watching it I believe it’s all about the return game.

Thank you for posting! I was a 4.0 until 2008, and then took a long break lol

Awesome video! Karue is legit and that was a great lesson of one of the internal challenges with tennis.

Great content Winston! Well done.

Karue is poetry in motion.

Beautiful set... Wonderful to watch for any club level player... Karue was spot on regarding the 'self imposed pressure' and importance of playing without the pressure... I think that just happened at the very last point with a 27 shot rally and finishing off with a winner. Great lesson to learn from this video. Kudos to both players... 😊👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

Good match to see the difference in levels and what needs to be done to improve. Thx

This is really good one!!! I wanna see more like this kind of Level player playing with you~~~~ I could see Karue was taking easy on you but still good to see How better player playing,,,,

What a set! Nice last point!!! Road to 10k les go

Fascinating video....thanks for doing this! I think it's so intriguing to see matchups of significantly different styles and skill. Like a 12 y/o ranked stud vs a 45 y/o 4.5 pusher...or a highly ranked woman against a less skilled but maybe stronger/faster man. Nice stuff!

@3dk4yProductionz

2 жыл бұрын

TennisTroll posted that the other day - the 12 yr old junior won pretty easily

Great job Winston to get Karue on your video. Very generous of him to appear. I'm also a subscriber of Karue's channel, he has many great contents there as well. Thank you both. 👍👏

The end of match comments are very very insightful. Thanks.

Beautiful ! Great quality.

Good match Winston, you had some nice rallies going there. All the best with your channel.

Well said both, I enjoyed. TY much love

Impressive job! Really fun to watch. Got a new subscriber.

Hehe, yeah... Karue's backhand is his go-to shot. This was a great collab! Love the sharing of thoughts at the end. Big fan of both of your channels.

Holy fg. This is the most epic vid here so far.

Epic. Love Karue. Awesome Winston! Cheers! MM

Last rally was amazing, great set Winston

Thnx for the knowledge !!! Thumbs up 👍

Taking on somebody out of your league like this is one of the best ways to learn. Looked fun.