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Solar over parking lots and canals are an absolutely crucial placement.

@pardunmeesuh5612

25 күн бұрын

No reason not to. Win Win.

@maximusasauluk7359

23 күн бұрын

There's even added benefits that weren't mentioned. The floating solar panels work better because they stay cooler due to the water temperature underneath them. They seem to also improve the water quality for marine life by reducing algae blooms (that typically infests water and sun exposure makes it worse) and by keeping the oxygen content/saturation more sable, good for fish.

@QuantumSpaceToaster

17 күн бұрын

IDK about parking lots, because that makes them less likely to be rezoned into something better, while reinforcing the car dependency we are trying to get rid of.

@danparish1344

16 күн бұрын

There is plenty of space to put solar panels alongside highways where it’s the most cost effective. The infrastructure and maintenance costs for solar panels over canals is idiotic. You can put inexpensive tarps to do the same thing.

@cameronf3343

13 күн бұрын

@@QuantumSpaceToaster While I fully agree with reducing or even eliminating car dependency, fact of the matter is they’re not going anywhere. I say that as someone who wants nothing more than to be able to sell my car and replace it with an e-bike that costs $4k up front, $100/yr to insure and $20/yr in electric charging costs - we’ve still got a long way to go. A long, long, ambitious, culturally morphing and societally changing brutal way to go. Parking lots are still gonna be here in another century. Might as well make them a bit better.

Thei is what India is doing, and the evaporation also keeps the solar panels cooler thus potentially extending their lifespan.

@Foersom_

Ай бұрын

Yes I remember reading about this in India more than a decade ago.

@manh9105

Ай бұрын

we did it 15 years ago, but Univrsity of California forgot to give credit of the idea to India

@jamescarey6559

Ай бұрын

Also increases the solar panels efficiency.

@symmetry08

Ай бұрын

@@manh9105 it must come from Eurocentric area

@user-tr2ec1kz9g

Ай бұрын

@@manh9105 credit to India? Japan installed it in 2007

India already did this successfully in the state of Gujarat.

@secessionnow4133

Ай бұрын

If only they can do toilets

@secessionnow4133

Ай бұрын

If only they could do toilets

@satyasaadhak

Ай бұрын

We can use your mouth ​@@secessionnow4133 🙂

@bakuleshsuhasrane8734

Ай бұрын

It failed 😂 miserably

@wel2myworld

Ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that 😮

I've actually wondered for a few years why this wasn't wide spread in dry places like California and Texas.

@willm5814

Ай бұрын

There are massive solar panel installations in both of those states

@AnalystPrime

Ай бұрын

India started putting solar panels over their canal years ago and IIRC China was the first to build floating panels over some polluted lake. Since then floating solar farms have been built in various countries.

@evgenyzak2035

Ай бұрын

Higher installation costs, harder maintenance, lower efficiency. With water and land savings, maybe cost effective, need to calculate it.

@AnalystPrime

Ай бұрын

@@evgenyzak2035 Water cooling the panels will raise efficiency, or at least negate the loss of it from hot panels. That means you get more watt-hours or need less panels, and because of the shade they create you also lose less water so more will reach the users or you need less pumping to provide same amount of water. The savings should more than cover the more expensive installation costs

@user-do5zk6jh1k

Ай бұрын

For Texas, our go-to is wind. We don't have as many artificial canals either because rainfall is greater in the eastern half of the state than in California.

India has had a lot of success covering their extensive canals with solar. Good thinking on both sides of the world.

I have often wondered why they put solar panels on good agricultural land, but never over car parks.

@CUBETechie

Ай бұрын

Exactly parking lots are often 2 4 6 or 8 Times the size of a building 1 parking lot is ~ 15m² =7,5m²= 2kWp so you need 11 lots to get 22kWp now you can calculate the rest 😊 I mean you have a huge area sealed with asphalt i think it a waste of space if it got unused for multipurpuse

@CUBETechie

Ай бұрын

But in hot Areas solar also can provide shade which Led to cooling the ground and plant could grow

@kasufert

Ай бұрын

Tons of parking lots have solar panels in SoCal.

@brodriguez11000

Ай бұрын

@@kasufert Blends well with the EV movement.

@qrzone8167

Ай бұрын

At least where I live, it's significantly less bureaucratic for a farmer to convert their farm into a massive solar array than it is for someone who is actually in the solar industry to buy land and turn that into a solar farm.

Stopping open water sources from evaporating water would have an effect on humidity and precipitation. But it would increase our ability to use that water elsewhere.

@tombh74

Ай бұрын

The effect on precipitation will be negligible. In desert regions rainwater comes from water evaporated from the sea or far way places. The point of canals are to move water to where it is needed and so any evaporation is considered a loss.

@AustinLWright

Ай бұрын

These are not natural water ways.

@evgenyzak2035

Ай бұрын

Just in near canal proximity.

@wel2myworld

Ай бұрын

Stopping rays of sunshine would help to lessen the benefits of the water and if it's contaminated it will only contaminate the larger water body 😢

@tombh74

Ай бұрын

@@wel2myworld that is both true and false. Many factors are involved in water quality. For example water with high organic content often has low oxygen content due do the microorganisms eating the organics, sunlight can increase the temperature which lowers oxygen content causing fish to die and the water to smell awful. Anyway, this of cause should be taken into consideration when planning over canals. Besides I am sure not 100% of the canal is fully covered.

I saw a video about India doing this with rivers and canals a few years ago and they reported a lot of advantages.

@manh9105

Ай бұрын

we did it 15 years ago In state of Gujarat

@secessionnow4133

Ай бұрын

They just need to do toilets 🎉

@nitinkapoor4752

Ай бұрын

It’s done over man-made canals in the Indian state of Gujarat. Covering natural water bodies instinctively looks wrong. Any natural water body will have life form in it, depriving them of natural sunlight is bound to have negative affect. So as far as possible we should not meddle with natural setup.

Gujarat, India did a canal top solar project to cover the Narmada canals in 2012. The first stretch implemented generated 1 MW off half a mile stretch. The Narmada canal system is 331 miles and mostly in very dry geography. Think of the amount of land and water saved. Yes the project did loose track since a much much larger, actually the worlds largest solar power park came about in Bhadla, Rajasthan in the peak desert area. And YES you can see Bhadla Solar Park from space, its that large.

@alokkadam4416

Ай бұрын

Who says the project lost track?? Nearly all the cities that have the canals pass through them have been covered with solar panels in Gujarat as of today, work on other sections still goes on.... slow and steady. The 1 MW project was just a pilot project, that proved it could and should be done and now the SSN is doing most of the work itself .

Thank you India...cmon USA let's roll on this...spread the news. Ohio? Lake Erie?

@frankmontez6853

Ай бұрын

No sir . There is shipping in those water ways . That’s why they’re doing it on water canals

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Covered bridges could be great though

this is actually a good idea, should be expanded to all commercial buildings and tenant buildings

I always thought Why not also place solar panels in the median of most major highways. This is land that’s pretty flat long stretches and easy for maintenance and installation since it’s all on a road and it provides some shade in hot places along the road . And there’s hundreds of thousands of miles

@neuemilch8318

Ай бұрын

That's right, if you place them cleverly, they can even help the ecosystem. I even remember that it was part of the insane project to re-vegetate the Sahara. If you cover a fifth of the area with solar cells, it would start a feedback loop that would allow vegetation through increased rainfall and shade.

India has been doing this for years, good that California are catching up but, when the sun don’t shine and the batteries are used up what then?

@2hotflavored666

Ай бұрын

You know what India needs to catch up on? Getting toilets for the majority of India's population finally.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

I've seen a heck of a lot running off a few panels in a perpetually cloudy area... Unlike snow/dust accumulation on the panels, solar seems to do fine with cloudy days; especially when comparing Wh:$ of municipal costs against most other energy generation.

@alexrogers777

19 күн бұрын

nuclear and geothermal

@leonlowenstadter9223

13 күн бұрын

​@@prophetzarquon1922Solar modules have improved drastically in past years in harvesting diffuse light.

@darwinianchimp2630

9 күн бұрын

With IoT meters the grids can be managed more effectively.

Always wondered why these canals weren't covered. But I moved from the US to Netherlands where they spend money on long term infrastructure projects...

@acod24

Ай бұрын

We’re busy putting the money in someones pockets

@edmundgonzalez8731

Ай бұрын

California spends money on long term corruption...

@Objectified

19 күн бұрын

This has nothing to do with long-term infrastructure spending, and the U.S. spends 30 times what the Netherlands spends on infrastructure annually, including spending on long-term infrastructure. Stop being an ignorant bigot.

@alexrogers777

19 күн бұрын

It's just expensive to put up that much covering and water is cheap. They have 4,000+ miles of canals. Being able to generate some power from that covering helps offset that huge cost

It all costs money - let's hope it isn't vandalized as soon as it's installed.

@davidmead6337

Ай бұрын

If you engage the people who live near the canals and pay them for up keep you might get a win rather than writing people off like that.

@landsraad9745

Ай бұрын

@@davidmead6337 "upkeep" on solar panels? I bet the local canal communities in the middle of nowhere are just all unemployed electrical technicians huh

@2MeterLP

Ай бұрын

@@landsraad9745 Upkeep on solar panels is mostly cleaning.

@alokkadam4416

Ай бұрын

Why would they be vandalized in the first place??

@ianchu8232

Ай бұрын

@@alokkadam4416 Why do people put graffiti on buildings?

I'm so happy to see people finally beginning to use their brains. People were talking about things like this before world war 1 and it's extremely obvious stuff. Finally things are starting to actually happen.

In my hometown-vadodara , Gujarat, INDIA . Solar canal project completed 12 yrs ago and still generates electricity nowadays . But not expanded to whole canal length (which is 400-500kms long )till now due feasibility of that as idea is great but also other issue it not that much feasible to other option. Still it is working on the generous kms length of canal

@satyasaadhak

Ай бұрын

You need long stretches of straight canal, without bends Plus, a single stretch of panel installation can't be too long for manageability

Looks good but I'd hope the construction takes into account flooding a pile up of panels could be a issue. Good designs could also bring in water turbines to increase energy production for pumps for irrigation for farms for other canal systems built elsewhere in other parts of the world.

A floating material will cost a lot more than just building them over canal system, or near water bank.

@user-fm6ns5nb4j

Ай бұрын

It does - but if you put them on the reservoir behind a dam that has any hydro component already you can piggyback the energy generated from the floating panels through the existing electrical infrastructure. Also the water helps keep the panels cool in Summer - which improves their efficiency. And less water is lost through evaporation from the reservoir. The system isn't without drawbacks but there are a lot of advantages. And you don't need to buy land for them.

You are aware of a thing called agrivoltaics? Crops are grown under the panels in dryer sunny environments, they provide some shade for the plants and reduce evaporation of water from the ground underneath. Over time the road side panels would provide a migration route for species not normally found by the desert road.

@MajLeader

23 күн бұрын

That doesn't work for grain farming. The farm equipment can be 20 to 25 feet wide.

@oyuyuy

19 күн бұрын

It's a foolish concept, it both makes the farming and the panel maintenance difficult and expensive. Nothing gained.

It would also allow the power lines and a additional power Grid to be built on the canal property

This is called *canal top solar* in india.......this is what india has been doing for the last 7-8 years.....the results are quite encouraging..... interested parties should definitely take a look into india's programme of installing solar panels over irrigation canals, embanked riverines/creeks and rivers and also on proper highways and freeways

Yes! The solar panels on my roof are actually worth almost as much for how much cooler they keep my roof as for the electricity they produce.

Great idea! Thanks for sharing this!

It will be so interesting to find out how this concept that technicaly has existed in India for years works in a high labour cost enviroment. I'm no expert but my first thoughs were, what will the trade off be between more efficient/cooler modules vs. potential algae growth above nutrient rich waters. Also, what will be the preferred method to get to the modules in case replacement or repair needs to be done? From underneath with a special barge?

@CasperChicago

Ай бұрын

Finally someone has some common sense input!

@eugenetswong

Ай бұрын

Those are great questions. I was suggesting in another thread, that maybe the panels need to fall down to the ground gracefully in strong winds and earthquakes. People should test these ideas out on scrap wood. That being said, I think that a lot of value comes from just having the cover over water, so that even if the panel stops producing electricity, then there will still be value in keeping them installed, even if the budget runs out for new panels. While commenting under the video, I began to wonder if there were opportunities for a liquid based solar panel, as opposed to a solid panel. This could open up opportunities to refresh the panels, instead of replacing them.

@alokkadam4416

Ай бұрын

What has the idea got to do with a high labour cost environment....??? it's not that each solar panel was lifted by a cooli or a labourer and put up on the canal..... they do have a whole retractable arm mechanism to do all the work.

@ayoCC

24 күн бұрын

@@CasperChicago those things are all solvable... the question is just how to do it most efficiently. We already know how to protect surfaces from molding and algae, it's a problem that needs to be solved in many other places already.

@leonlowenstadter9223

13 күн бұрын

I not sure, but as far as I know, algae need (sun)light to grow, so thes modules would help to reduce them.

Those floating panels are a great idea except for the huge solar field that was destroyed this week by a storm.

Are the canals not used for moving stuff by barge? Wouldn't panels get in the way?

@theotheleo6830

Ай бұрын

No, these are small canals. The only thing moving in them is water.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

_Thousands of miles of canals,_ in fact. The footprint available here is enormous.

India already did this in Gujarat on Sardar canal that too more than a decade ago!!!

Phoenix needs to do this. Just keeping the sun off the ground constantly could cool the city drastically.

Everyone is buying and doing it!! The fact is I already subconsciously did it to!!!

I am quite sure this idea comes from India but you don't credit them in the video? Pilot project was first installed in India, Gujarat in 2014. There are a number of other projects since including a 49km 100MW system.

@evgenyzak2035

Ай бұрын

This idea has been around for a while in California. Politics didn't allow to make it reality.

@azraeldemuirgos9518

Ай бұрын

​@@evgenyzak2035 what politics would stop it in California?

@satyasaadhak

Ай бұрын

It was long before 2014

@adventuresingoodhealth8946

Ай бұрын

@@satyasaadhak I remember hearing about a plan to cover CA's canals with solar panels as far back as the late 1970's.

@satyasaadhak

Ай бұрын

@@adventuresingoodhealth8946 good plan. Should implement now at least

I imagine this thought would have occurred to most people, as it did to me; especially after seeing otherwise productive land converted to solar installations Funny that certain people get paid for the privilege of expressing this thought

Multi-use advantages - the power generated is close to small communities, so shorter cable runs in to local grids. The power made can also be used to pump water in to local storages, and to power local water processing plants for town water.

There’s one main problem: moving the solar panels so dredgers can move along the canal unimpeded so they can maintain the canals

@squishybrain

16 күн бұрын

In places where this has been implemented already, the panels were mounted high enough so that they didn't impede maintenance equipment.

Yes! I keep asking myself what is the hold back. With all the huge parking lots we have all over America, why not make them produce energy this way? It should be easy to see. Some companies have been installing, very successfully, solar and wind generators in their properties but these initiatives are still be small in number. Let's act!

This is an amazing, wonderful idea that the world really needs!

I imagine that, on average, this has some reduction on water temperature/evaporation as well.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Yeah, ordinarily, these canals are wasteful as heck. This is a win\win.

De-silting of canals is the major cause of concern

Good stuff 👍 Wishing all the success for the project from India.

Great idea... Only down side: Water evaporation cools the state, which prevents runaway climate change. If the solar panels prevent evaporation, than the state will build up too much heat

There is so much real estate on roofs of buildings (not just homes) that is just wasted space. Years ago, I could look down from the tower I worked in and see just a shitload of concrete slab roofs of other office buildings downtown and I would think "look at all the space for solar panels that is otherwise wasted."

You could also put wood planks over the canals. Cheaper and eco friendly.

So what happens to all of those panels when you have one of your frequent flash floods?

@danielcarroll3358

Ай бұрын

What flash floods? These locations are in the Great Central Valley. Last year we had several atmospheric rivers and part of the old Tulare Lake lake bed was flooded. That water arrived via canals that didn't flood. This is an area that rises a few hundred feet in hundreds of miles.

Installing solar panels over water canals have already been implemented in India. And in many parts of world there are already floating solar panels.

Cover them with natural fiber tarps. Much cheaper than fragile electronics

Already being done in India for years

Great... Until people start using them as bridges.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

"Sweet grinds bro!"

Those solar panel roofs need to be high enough so maintenance trucks, etc. can go along the canals under the roofs. The canal maintenance is done during the winter when there is no water in the canals.

@robertlackey7212

Ай бұрын

You could use low vehicles like they use in mines.

@leonlowenstadter9223

13 күн бұрын

I think it was not planned that the canal falls dry, so I guess there is a different access for maintenance.

U can't save water - it just is somewhere else. If you "save" it - it's missing somewhere.

I would go further and say it's a no-brainer for all freeways, parking spaces and other spaces like this.

@danharold3087

Ай бұрын

No to freeways. One wants as few obstructions along the roadway as possible. It was also suggest they be used in medians. No for the same reason.

There are so many open space parking lots, if they can install more of those car shade solar panels, that would be a huge relief for car owners and would mean huge power savings for the shopping malls usually in the center of such large parking lots.

This is what I've been saying to my friends who can't do anything with that information.

Seems like a much cheaper alternative is just to put any old solid object over the canals. Yeah it won't make power, but unless you have a way to store that power for later usage I can see them as maxing out the solar production needs of the state.

There are many applications of solar panels like parking lot, covering govt buildings, schools, bus stops etc etc. But the main hurdle is the upfront cost of a solar project plus the maintenance. I hope, every government implies this faster and we produce more green energy.

Not even rocket science! No doubt Chevron & PG&E have been thwarting the plan this whole time... ;-)

Now we just need a viable energy storage solution.

Is the rain runoff from the panels safe? What happens to all those panels at their end of life?

@mrpablomx

Ай бұрын

I suppose they get replaced one by one… i don’t think they would all fail at once

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Since they lose efficiency gradually, one common approach is to add new (often better) panels alongside the old ones, increasing overall output to scale with ever-increasing demand; when the old panels are so far gone they're not worth leaving connected, then new panels go where the old ones were.

Covering canals and parking lots with solar panels would save water by reducing evaporation and providing clean renewable energy. Bicycles, ebikes, electric cargo bicycles, robo taxis and escooters are great options for last mile, short distance travel. Reduced transportation costs and fossil fuels free transportation. Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles by providing SAFE, PROTECTED BIKE LANES and trails. Every adult and child should own a bicycle and ride it regularly. Bicycles are healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. Electric bicycles are bringing many older adults back to cycling. Ride to work, ride to school, ride for health or ride for fun. Children should be able to ride a bicycle to school without having to dodge cars and trucks. Separated and protected bike lanes are required. It will also make the roads safer for automobile drivers. Transportation planners and elected officials need to encourage people to walk, bike and take public transportation. Healthy exercise and fossil fuels free transportation. In the future cities will be redesigned for people not cars. Crazy big parking lots will be transformed with solar canopies generating free energy from the sun.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Yes to _all_ of that, & also: On destination streets full of driveways & crossings, _traffic should_ *_never_* _go fast there,_ so it's OK to let _everyone_ use that road & not just automobiles! "Traffic calming" _sucks_ when no alternatives are provided, but reclaiming destination streets from thru traffic by giving _other_ transit room to work, pays off big time!

Water conservation is always smart and saving land from solar farms is another.

Id say keep sections of it uncovered so that the UV from the sun can kill some harmful bacteria in the water.

Great idea, but knowing our state government, it will probably take 20 years and be way over budget.

Why is it always California doing all the cool shit

I think this is great and amazing I think in all nations should do this

Until those panels brake somehow and poison the water...

That scene of the cars "not baking in the sun" made me think of saveral ideas. 1) What if that was a tesla charging station someplace where the cars would be parked all day? What if the last 10 to 20 percent of the charge was net metered? So, the car batteries could be used for load balancing on the local grid. 2) Photovoltaics are typically about 20% efficient. What if that parking lot/charging station was located on the north side of a building and the panels had 2 axis controls? They could focus some of that 80% on a thermal collector for building heating or hot water.

@leonlowenstadter9223

13 күн бұрын

I think the 20% efficiency is a missunderstanding. They can harvest about 20% of the energy that is in the light, but there is nothing "left". Research tries to improve this rate. Thermal collectors need to be placed next to a panel or elsewhere. They are very commonly used in sunny countries like in the south of Europe.

People with million dollar views will have something to say about this. To hell with them.

Evaporation consumes heat. Loss of evaporation, due to shielding, will result in warmer surface temperatures in the area -- not a desirable outcome.

Create multiple problems to fight one problem. Sounds great...Go photovoltaic!

Perhaps this could help reverse the rising ocean temperatures by keeping river water cooler.

In addition to the water savings and environmental benefits, how much power would be generated and how much money can be made selling the power generated? Is it enough to fund the maintenance that will be required?

Solar panels could be used in other beneficial ways that would help environmentally and economically. 1: Just like they are used to shade parking lots. They could be used to shade the side of roads going through the desertlands. Having a 50ft. wide line of panels running along the roadside would prevent plants from growing close to the roads. This in turn would reduce wildfires. 2: the panals along the desert roadways could provide electricity for street lamps. 3: Desert roadside solar panels could power pumps that would activated to aid a fire sprinkler system to fight wildfires. 4: Solar panels could be added to glass to make solarglass. Which could be used for highrises and homes.

@triplec8375

Ай бұрын

Floating solar can reduce the evaporation from reservoirs. If pumped hydro energy storage is employed, solar floats on the upper and lower reservoirs can add free pumping power to the system. On parking garage, the electricity could be stored and used for charging stalls. Covering the canals really is a no brainer.

@Paul-yh8km

Ай бұрын

Unlikely they would reduce plant life, a lot of plants thrive in shade (there would still be a lot of light), unless you mean the panels would be lying flat on the ground. On the ground they would be prone to damage from grit, stones etc

@DanielWatson-vv7cd

Ай бұрын

@@Paul-yh8km No. If the panels were 15 or twenty feet up off the ground. (remember) Side by side (no spacing) 50 feet wide , running the length of the road, in the desert, there would not be any plants Or any plants in a significant amount to fuel a brush fire. And even if a fire could possibly get started, the fire sprinkler system (charged by a pumping system, powered with the solar panels) would extinguish the fire. Though not all wildfires can be prevented, keeping the exit route clear and escapable is most important.

@DanielWatson-vv7cd

Ай бұрын

@@triplec8375 I agree covering the canals is a good idea.(never stated it was wrong) Along with charging stations in parking garages. I don't know what you mean by pump hydro storage???

@DanielWatson-vv7cd

Ай бұрын

@@Paul-yh8km The main idea is solar panels running the length of the road/highway for miles and miles. Instead of the panels covering 50 acres or so of potential, wildlife reserve, pasture land, and or farmland.

Really cool

I wonder if those calculations took in the huge rise in temperature beneath those black solar panels which will result in increased airflow and evaporation

Somebody needs to test how many plastics and chemicals are going to run off the solar panels into the drinking water.

Finally ive been waiting for California to have 1 good idea. Its about time.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Nice profile image

The real question is why the canals werent covered to begin with. Not with solar panels, just anything to block evaporation from the sun...

Would shading the water not also cool the water? If so, would that not make it possible for some aquatic species to thrive there that could not have done so before? If so, does that not open the possibility of invasive species? I mean, we’re constantly told that an average difference of one or two degrees over the course of a year is huge

But need proper draining infra for the panels so that rain water doesn't runover to the land and get wasted.

I love this idea, but it's California, so won't all the panels eventually be stolen and sold on Craigslist?

What San Diego like San Diego needs to spend money to repair their old dam so the dam can be able to store more water and waste water to the ocean when California gets rain

Genius idea !!! Ya man.

@shanehumphrey4827

Ай бұрын

Holy crap yes!!! Arizona and colorado river need this!!!

Better be retractable or leave room for clearing and servicing the canal

Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego Counties have many rivers flowing north south and east west. Covering them with solar panels would save billions of dollars. What about if Caltrans also build freeways over these larger ones? We would still be covering the rivers but we will have freeways that would be cheap and fast to build because 1, they provide natural space. 2 Since rivers are the Government's property, they do not have to pay right of way or to buy land. Si, the cost of the Freeways would be cheap. 3 With no obstruction of buying property and paperwork, the freeways would be fast to build, or maybe instead of a Freeway for vehicles, Caltrans could construct monorails and maybe a combination of monorails and vehicles.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Freeways cost a lot more to build & maintain, than rails (especially per mile traveled). Just do rail. In fact, every time anyone lobbies for more lanes, just do rail.

What is the consequence of withholding that moisture from the atmosphere, I wonder...

What about on on moving vehicles?

What about natural purification of water with sunlight and what about water cycle ? Hence affecting environment adversely

These solar cannal roof tops must be such that at least there is 6 ft height from the bottom of the sides so that natural air and vegetation is not obstructed while achieving the objective of conserving water.

The fact that they haven’t even put tarps over the water tells you how expensive this project would be.

@leonlowenstadter9223

13 күн бұрын

Tarps don't have the benefit to produce electricity, secondly, these solar panels would cover space that's not needed for other purpose (like agriculture).

Kudos to India for this, In Countries like India, Pakistan & Bangladesh it could be game changers, easier to maintain & install, longer lifespan especially with large populations even small savings can impact a lot. With all problems of politics aside. PAKISTAN, INDIA, CHINA AND BANGLADESH need to work together to optimise and utilise the water properly as that region alone has 3.5+ billion population. I really hope sanity prevails and People start to look for better future instead of promise of politicians

Yep, good idea, the Indians started doing that several years ago!

What's the cost per kwh? Strange that they don't mention that!

Don't the evaporated water come down as rain . Why prevent it from evaporation

Good idea, but the new 50% tariff on 90% of the world’s solar panel supply may not help.

Great idea… how come there is no mention of the potential electricity that could be produced?

You could also meet these goals by investing in Nuclear Energy. Just pointing out that Nuclear is by far the cleanest and most efficient source of energy production per kWh.

What's it cost to wash them all the time LMAO

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

Probably a bit less water than they save from evaporation losses (depending how hot it gets) & a lot less energy than they generate... I can't imagine what a private company would charge to maintain them, though. Municipal energy cooperatives are performing quite well, especially in rural areas which privatized services neglect; I'd be eager to see how they'd do with a latent resource like this!

@alexrogers777

19 күн бұрын

you hardly need to wash panels ever. The yearly rains in the area is more than enough

@ScrewyDriverTheMan

19 күн бұрын

@@alexrogers777 You do realise it doesn't rain for 8 months of the year in Cali, and the desert dust covers everything if you just let things sit there? My car gets covered in LA just from being outside. If I let it sit for 8 months without washing it's a ball of dirt

It’s CA so it will be wildly over budget, and late…

California has rolling blackouts. 🤣🤣🤣

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

All the more need for solar & a more distributed grid? They wouldn't want blackouts like *_Texas!_*

What about the damage of not letting that water evaporate? Where does that take water away in other locations? (I am big on solar and advocate renewable energy, but I’d like to see the entire picture first.

@prophetzarquon1922

Ай бұрын

The water isn't in it's natural location & we currently have a lot more of its surface area exposed than it had naturally; foliage growth increases near these canals, but letting the diverted water reach its destination more efficiently, leaves more water in natural waterways.