10:24 the World Cup is once every 4 years, so it being 38% is very high. Either that stat is wrong or there very much is a correlation between the balon d’or and being a World Cup winner.

@FootballIconic

8 ай бұрын

I've only considered years where a World Cup has taken place for that category. Same goes for Copa America/UEFA Euro/AFCON. It is high, I agree. But it's not a certainty for the winner. It's funny you mention that (Im about to contradict myself). I forgot to include it in the video, but the number should be higher. For years such as 1978, 86, 58, 62 and more, the best players in the world were considered to be on the World Cup winning teams- South Americans.

@droid-sapiensX

8 ай бұрын

That makes sense. But popularity is also a big factor. In any case, Messi has a relatively higher chance than other nominees.

@bartekmostek4850

8 ай бұрын

​@@FootballIconicwhat about WC golden ball wins? Best at world cup and the corellation between that and the Balon'Dor?

@lucascamaca5969

8 ай бұрын

❤brody Xavi and iniesta won the WC with better stats than modric 2018 not just scoring wise but playmaking succesfull pass completed dribble succesfull tackle etc Sneijder won the treble and a world cup finalist (runner up) Messi deff robbed 2010 if u guys saying world cup winner deserve it than xavi or iniesta deserve it PESSI FANS LOGIC 💨📈

@69ninek

8 ай бұрын

​​@@FootballIconicbrody Xavi and iniesta won the WC with better stats than modric 2018 not just scoring wise but playmaking succesfull pass completed dribble succesfull tackle etc Sneijder won the treble and a world cup finalist (runner up) Messi deff robbed 2010 if u guys saying world cup winner deserve it than xavi or iniesta deserve it

Asking voters to consider a players "overall career" is like saying that its okay to vote for the one you already like.

@skp8748

8 ай бұрын

Not really Harvey Barnes scored more than Son last season... NO ONE would say Barnes is better. So it's not JUST stats. On the other hand Salah scored nearly 4x what Grealish did but Jack got 3 trophies which he was key to and Salah won none... but no one would say Grealish is better than Salah. It's a balance. Like Mbappe people like to say but he plays in the French league ect ect but he won Monacos first league title for 17 years as a kid... he SINGLE handedly knocked out Argentina in the Russia World Cup and scored in the final... He INDIVIDUALLY led PSG scoring multiple goals against Bayern, Real and Barca ect in the champions league. Then you have him again leading france to the WC final for the second time in a row scoring a hattrick in the final... If HYPOTHETICALLY mbappe scores 25 in a season but Vini scores 30 it's ridiculous to say Vini is now better... Now if Mbappe is injured or has a horrible season like not winning the league not being crucial for his team and vini scores 30 winning what he needs to win it's fair to say Vini not only had a better season but that mbappe because of his disastrous season can't rely on his overall career to balance it out. Meaning Vini would be the better player until Mbappe shows he can get back to his level.

@jackprice4959

8 ай бұрын

@@skp8748 I'm not arguing against there being more to a player than stats. But I will say that there are pretty advanced metrics that can explain why a player is more valuable than another player beyond goal tally or trophy cabinet size. I think that if stats are used correctly, they can get closer to telling the whole story than many may think. And if those stats say that Barnes out-performed Son for a season, then I think he should rank higher than him for that season. That being said, I don't think the stats say that. Although I heard Son had a rough time at the beginning of the year.

@uros7320

8 ай бұрын

well that wouldnt be a bad way of voting bc then if extremely dominant players aka messi and ronaldo didnt exist, lewa would win it in 2021, it would help players like lewa, neuer, neymar win the award considering that they achieved so much already, like its stupidbto say that prime neymar didnt deserve a ballon d'or, but the problem was that messi ajd ronaldo were still in their primes

@jackprice4959

8 ай бұрын

@uros7320 If I thought it would work out like that, I'd be for it too.

@droid-sapiensX

8 ай бұрын

@@uros7320 Messi and Ronaldo aside, Neymar would be the most deserving of Ballon D'or out of the three players you mentioned. In my opinion, he hit the pinnacle at PSG and gave his all in lifting the team to UCL final. What a player he was!

The fact that Alvarez scored 17 goals yet didn't even start in his main position for his club is crazy.

The moment Messi left the WC he already won the Ballon D'or. It is a globally voted award and not everyone watches European football but everyone watches the WC that's why Haaland won UEFA best player while Messi won FIFA the best recently.

@richhornie7000

8 ай бұрын

If you look at that UEFA best player award, it's almost always get awarded to European players. Messi is the only non European to ever win it and that's because they couldn't delude themselves any longer.

@user-yj7ve5zv9n

8 ай бұрын

​@richhornie7000 U forgot R9,George weah,Kaka and many more.Its really has not discriminated against non-European players since they were allowed to win it.(at its inception it was intended to determine the best European player.)

@illuminatie2526

8 ай бұрын

@@user-yj7ve5zv9nhe was talking about UEFA best player award, not ballon d’or

@lipesilva1

8 ай бұрын

@@user-yj7ve5zv9n Only twice has Messi won, and five times he’s come in second (a record). What a joke! It’s obvious they wouldn’t make a non-European the biggest winner.

Even if Haaland deservingly wins, I really hope Rodri and Stones don't get done dirty. They were crucial and were the first two in the team sheet in the latter half of City's season Edit: I know that Stones wasn't nominated - that just shows how underrated he is compared to Van Dijk, Ruben Dias, Ronald Araujo, etc.

@blank1933

8 ай бұрын

Stones isn’t even nominated

@garyanderton

8 ай бұрын

Rodri deserved it. Did the treble and won the nation's league. Even scored in the CL final. One WC can't possibly trump an entire season of consistent performances.

@magnus9003

8 ай бұрын

Rodri won them CL, man should be top 3 With KDB over Haaland

@Astro.004

8 ай бұрын

How does he deserve it and Messi doesn't

@ammarharith5512

8 ай бұрын

​@@Astro.004 Because Messi didn't do much to win it this time?

Honestly, it’s an irrelevant award since it’s a popularity contest. How the votes are tallied explains it all.

@yourAverageGuitarGuy

8 ай бұрын

Cry more

@ketancardases3678

8 ай бұрын

@@yourAverageGuitarGuy pessi fan

@GIBBO4182

8 ай бұрын

@@ketancardases367812 year old

@yourAverageGuitarGuy

8 ай бұрын

The next thing for you will be the world cup that is irrelevant

@ketancardases3678

8 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 What you mean all pessi fans are fetuses

Personally, I think the Ballon d'Or has lost its 'weight' in recent years because of all the controversies. I know it's always been a popular vote, but now it's becoming more and more obvious. (I'm neither a fan of Messi or Ronaldo)

@darryelphillip5219

8 ай бұрын

​@@SportsHub-yv3ztthis guy never said he was a ronaldo fan ur just sad🤡

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

​@@SportsHub-yv3ztbroo ronaldo was robbed in 2018 Messi robbed 2010 Tf u mean

@d15t0rted4

8 ай бұрын

@@SportsHub-yv3ztshut up mate nobody gives one about Messi/Ronaldo anymore it’s not even funny now

@MrMMAJER

8 ай бұрын

​@@fotballaddictyou were fast to say "Messi ghosted from the Copa America final" but now you say Ronaldo should have won 2018. What hey? By your logic, he ghosted in the Round of 16 of the World Cup. Against Uruguay. Didn't score or assist, Pepe had to score

@Nuzi9

8 ай бұрын

this narrative is hilarious

Thanks for another banger 🔥 I never miss your newest stuff

Happy with Haaland or Messi, but I think Messi's year was more impressive with the WC if nothing else Haaland seemed absent in big games...

@flapp-jck1226

8 ай бұрын

the problem is that there’s no consistency, Iniesta won the WC in 2010 and was statistically viewed as the most impactful and he even scored the WC winner. does Iniesta have a B’dor? 🤔

@dimithriw3357

8 ай бұрын

yeah people will not talk about how he's got ZERO goals in 4 finals.. and goals are his ONLY strength!!

@LjuboCupic1912

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@dimithriw3357this persistent myth about Haaland ghosting in big games really needs to stop. 1. He had several shots on target in the final that Onana had to pull legit miracles to save. Same happened against Real, if it wasn’t for Curtois being as good as he is, the scote would’ve been 8-0 rather than 4-0. 2. Him drawing defenders away and creating space for his teammates is the reason they got to score the winning goals in the first place. You can not tell me Silva would’ve been able to score the brace against Madrid if it wasn’t for Haaland being double teamed. 3. In every other big game of the season - Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Bayern - Haaland has scored. He’s the reason they got to the final in the first place. Should we simply discount that because he had a few mediocre games in an otherwise excellent season? Kevin De Bruyne said it best: “People expect Erling to score hat-tricks every match, when his average is one goal per game.”

@isuckatrhythmgames.

8 ай бұрын

@@flapp-jck1226 The thing with the 2010 award is that it was a completely different scenario if you look at things as a whole. People don't argue that you should only look at the WC, but that the WC has a much bigger weight than anything else. 1) In 2010, Messi was just a completely different breed of a player, there is no way you can compare 2010 Messi with current year Haaland. Messi dominated any and all aspects of the game, while Haaland, as good as he is, is mostly regarded as the best goalscorer. 2) Iniesta back in 2010, was definitely a key player for that Spain National Team, however, you can't forget about Xavi, Casillas, Villa, etc. Every player in that National team was pretty much equally as important, and they all boosted each other. Compare that to Messi's WC, where he was once again, the most important player for Argentina in every match he played. Messi boosted the entire Argentina team and had key goal contributions in, once again, pretty much every match he played. If you take a closer look at it, you would realize how these two cases are just impossible to be compared to each other despite what it would initially seem.

@flapp-jck1226

8 ай бұрын

@isuckatrhythmgames. yeah you’re speaking facts. I would also say Iniesta and Xavi contributed massively to Messi’s 2010 brilliance. but you’re right, you can’t compare the two scenarios because Messi was the only key to Argentina’s WC dominance 🐐💯.

for me it could go either way, haaland or messi. Haaland had the perfect season for man city and messi won the world cup, the only thing I can say about Haaland is that he ghosted in the biggest games of the season (which is understandable since his team isn't such a bad team that they have to rely on him, I mean we're talking about man city😂). I can think of a couple of knocks to messi though. He's not in Europe anymore, he did have a decent amount of goals contributions but it was mostly in Ligue 1 which is undoubtedly the worst of the top 5 leagues, and lastly his only argument is his world cup campaign but it was magical.

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

And messi ghosted in copa america final the only reason he won 2021 b'dor 😅

@cassiusgibere2901

8 ай бұрын

One of the most unbiased analogy so far in the comments

@technica6338

8 ай бұрын

@@cassiusgibere2901 Yeah. People say Haaland ghosted the UCL Semi-Finals and Finals, but Messi, with Mbappe, couldn't even make it to those matches... /shrug

@slayerz2234

8 ай бұрын

If modric deserved it then so does messi, his stats were so much better in 2018 and he only got 5th place

@MrMMAJER

8 ай бұрын

​@@fotballaddictbro, get educated. Messi was top 1° for literally every single attack related stat, except goals per90, behind Lewandowski but for about a 0.30 margin. Yet Messi had twice the involvement in chances created. But idk maybe casuals like to make a fool of themselves

The reason Charlton won was actually because some journalist gave what he thought was gonna be a sympathy vote to him because he thought Eusebio was obviously gonna win it.

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

8 ай бұрын

A lot of journalist gave sympathy votes and he won. Of course the reason he won was cause he was English.

As a striker myself, I've always placed way more importance on the Golden Boot. No votes, just goals. Shame they don't give enough credit to amazing assists though.

@majormononoke8958

8 ай бұрын

No it isnt. Since not all leagues get the same values of goals, France ligue 1 goals for instance get devalue by the coefficient. Even though i have may doubts that the Bayernliga should be valued the same as la Liga, the premiere league, Serie A. Further, it is a lot easier to score for top teams specially when that team buys out the entire league like in Germany, i would even say less in France because PSG are morons that buy mostly international stars, while throwing away their top youngsters, though they have been doing same stuff that Bayern did with Monaco. But it is hard to say to be honest.

It pretty much depends on a player's influence. Haaland had a mega season, but Messi and the World Cup is just something different.

@danylo7768

8 ай бұрын

one is a four week competition vs a treble winning YEAR. you’re clearly biased

@t.k3579

8 ай бұрын

@@danylo7768 You are being too sensitive here, if there was no international tournament the last season Haaland would have won for sure. But just look at the influence Messi created with his World Cup win. The Ballon D'or has never been a "who's the best player" award but more of "who has the biggest influence" award, unless there's only one stand out player that season like what Benzema did last year.

@Moonuuu

8 ай бұрын

​@@danylo7768that 4 week is biggest football trophy much bigger than ucl

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

​@@t.k3579true because if it was based on performance messi would not in the top 3 all he do in WC was scoring pens And tap ins

@21stcenturyman95

8 ай бұрын

​@@fotballaddictwhat the fuck were you watching ???😂😂😂

Ballon'dor 🥇✨️ should be removed ❌️ And replace with the award with every each position like the ⚽️-best forwards competing with wingers and striker 🪄-The best midfielder Competing with center mid attacking mid and defendsive mid 💪🏽-The best defender Competing with fullbacks and centerbacks

@69ninek

8 ай бұрын

True 🎉

@swordsman1137

8 ай бұрын

Isn't Fifa already make awards for that? Like "the best goalkeeper"

@langletprolet8378

8 ай бұрын

@@swordsman1137 Yes. Do it for defenders, midfielders and forwards. And no just single best player.

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@swordsman1137 FIFA the best is really not a good award & a bigger popularity/media contest than the ballon d’or, 1999 beckham deserved it, 2003 & 2004 atleast deserved one of those, 2010 sneijder deserved more, 2013 ribery deserved more, 2018 cristiano deserved more, 2019 van dijk deserved more & 2022 benzema deserved.

I love this video bro. Sincerely, everything you mentioned was informative and not that surprising.

What a fun statistical analysis of a thought experiment. Awesome video!

"The best is Leo Messi. For me, there's a great difference between being a great player and a goalscorer."- Johan Cruyff.

@ilzuab8467

8 ай бұрын

He may be the best overall, but he was not the best in the past season.

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@ilzuab8467 how he literally destroyed everything when it mattered

@ilzuab8467

8 ай бұрын

@@prometheustv6558 no matter how you look at the ballon dor, messi cant win it. In the WC he was equal to Mbappe, which was also an absolute insane solo carry during the whole tournament. He was also the overall better player at psg last season. Now if you say "Well Mbappe didn't win the WC tho and thats why it weighs less", we have to look at titles. And if we weigh titles so highly, it can't be anyone else than Haalanf who won the big European triple while scoring 50 goals.

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@ilzuab8467 He was way better than that speeed merchant in the World Cup and for PSG. Messi was the best player in the World Cup he deserves it.

@ilzuab8467

8 ай бұрын

@@prometheustv6558 You must've watched a different season then. Mbappe literally transformed every WC game he wad in (like Messi). For PSG, he was just the most important player, followed by Messi. PSG is built around him and he thrives in that.

There’s always been a bias towards the World Cup…but NOW it’s a problem if Messi wins!?

@CMbReCk

8 ай бұрын

Because of Ronaldo and Madrid fanboys, they are so butthurt that they will always root for anyone but Messi to win it

@qBodi

8 ай бұрын

yes "c u n t" cuz his daddy gave it to em, why xavi or iniesta didn't got the ballon d'or also in 2010?

@GIBBO4182

8 ай бұрын

@@qBodibecause they played in a team every week with someone who was better…you sad w⚓️

@CMbReCk

8 ай бұрын

@@qBodi Messi's numbers we're estratosphetic and Iniesta was injured for 8 months that year. So yeah, you just went full r e t a Rd and c u n t

@qBodi

8 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 that's your excuse? cant belive i botherd with such pathetic creature, so bcs midget would ve been better, a wc winner didn't deserve the ballon d'or xd, then that fk should that fraud deserve it this year when haaland is the best player on the plannet?

It's not revered in the UK, certainly not for people over the age of 35-40. I'm 45 and have never paid any attention to it, I don't remember it even getting a mention when Owen won it

@ek6352

8 ай бұрын

It has gained such relevance due to messi Ronaldo fans.

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

I agree it was something you’d read about in the papers they never made a big thing of it

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

Because no English player has won it for 2 decades and no player from a PL team has won it for 15 years

@majormononoke8958

8 ай бұрын

lmao@@prometheustv6558

Everyone is sleeping on Rodri. Way too consistent, won the treble, Uefa supercup + nation league. Being MOTM in Nations league and UCL finals. High g/a for a CDM. Everyone just thinks about Messi's controversial WC win and Haaland's 50+ goals.

@HopefulNihilist

8 ай бұрын

What was controversial about it?

@NoOne-wz2ht

8 ай бұрын

@@HopefulNihilist some people think it was rigged for some reason

@devoeditz1

8 ай бұрын

@@NoOne-wz2ht only brainless delusional pendoggy fans think that the wc was rigged

@maxwellmaragia2272

8 ай бұрын

WC wasn't controversial lmao. Only France and some CR7 fans claim so and we all know who has the most clowns as his fans

@garyanderton

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@maxwellmaragia2272Well, let's be fair.. De Paul first commits a foul worthy of a yellow, then shoots the ball at the bench after whistle is blown. By comparison Van Persie got red carded for shooting the ball after not hearing the whistle during a CL final. There was some favourable refereeing for Argentina.

Best football youtuber 💯😤

Messis 2019 might be his most deserved outside of 2012. This notion that often comes up of “x deserved the bdr over messi/Ronaldo” just comes from people who see a player have a particularly outstanding season and think that immediately means they win the bdr regardless of anyone else’s performance/people wanting to show their superior knowledge by saying something that goes against the obvious choice/people being bored of messi and Ronaldo winning

@lmaomoofeq2505

8 ай бұрын

messi was the sole reason why barca ddint become mid table that season

@adityasinha1837

8 ай бұрын

W

@trollinape2697

8 ай бұрын

Van Dijk literally went undefeated in a 1v1, defenders are just massive underrated. If you ask anyone to top their 5 fav footballers of all time youll be lucky if a defender is up there

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@trollinape2697 Wasn’t as good as Messi

@Francadam

8 ай бұрын

@@trollinape2697 I play cb myself, I do appreciate that this is the case but we’re not just talking about an amazing cb vs your standard amazing forward we’re talking about arguably the greatest footballer ever having one of his best ever years. It’s unfortunate for vvd, in another era he might’ve won it, but only one player can win it. Same can be said for Neymar, suarez, lewa, ribery, the list goes on

Tinashe my guy, youz a genius, i remember when it was just a few hundred of us here and bantering you vociferously on Twitter ( now X, that proves it's ages ago😅😅) keep up the good work

loved the video and rationale to reach conclusion. I would challenge WC years though.. i did study on WC years and found two third of times it went to the player who had great year that year (nog necessarily win it). This is right for Cruyff in 1974 as well as Modric in 2018. The story and impact was delightful. Let’s not forget Paolo Rossi in 1982 who starred in only three games scoring six goals for Italy that defined the modern history of Italian football

Luis Suárez not winning it in 2016 was the biggest robbery ever. He scored more goals, made more assists, and won more trophies than Ronaldo that year, but Ronaldo won because he won the UCL. Scammed. Edit: Suárez was fourth that year with 98 points. Third place Griezmann received 198, Messi received 316 and Ronaldo 745. Ridiculous. If anyone told you that this had nothing to do with Suárez's violent history, they'd be lying.

@bengan2588

8 ай бұрын

Ronaldo also won the euro the first trophy ever for Portugal and had only 4 less goals and was a more complete player

@tsi7888

8 ай бұрын

Suarez was farming in laliga but what did he do in the rest of it all? Ronaldo scored 15goals in ucl (half of what suarez did in his whole career), won ucl, won euros being their best player even though he got injured in the final (3g 3a). The better player overall. Ronaldo for Real Madrid was ten times better than Suarez for Barca (compare BBC to MSN and you will see the difference in stats in BBC is a lot bigger than in MSN). Just accept that you hate Ronaldo.

@mr_sanchez

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but as history repeats itself you also have to mention Lewandowski's loss to Messi. Lewa even was World Footballer, but since some french guys wanted Messi at PSG he lost. Also look at "The Golden Boy Award". Where some Barca Dude won while Bellingham and Musiala played world-class seasons across the board... That award is probably the most rigged award ever.

@smoothcat4334

8 ай бұрын

@@tsi7888 I do, in fact, hate Ronaldo and have never once denied this.

@maismade6013

8 ай бұрын

Ah yes ballon d’or loss means you should be a racist😭😭

If Ballon d’Ors were fair…based on consistency and decisive performances 2008 - CR7 2009 - Messi 2010 - Sneijder 2011 - Messi 2012 - Messi 2013 - Ribery 2014 - Neuer 2015 - Messi 2016 - CR7 2017 - CR7 2018 - CR7 2019 - Messi 2020 - Lewandowski 2021 - Messi 2022 - Benzema 2023 - Håland

@Magnus04900

8 ай бұрын

Fair i still don't understand how people say 2019 and 2021 was robbery messi probably had the most influential season of his life in 2019 single handedly carried barcelona the whole season van dijk was also great but not on messi's level in 2021 messi had the most motm awards in top 5 league he was the top scorer and also won 1 trophy where Lewandowski scored goals in farmers league

@69ninek

8 ай бұрын

Nah 2014 was deff ronaldo tho

@vb2388

8 ай бұрын

@@69ninek how was it not Neuer? He won more and was the Best Goalkeeper in World Cup, UCL, Bundesliga and Pokal…winning 3 out of 4.. CR7 only won UCL and was kicked out of group stages of WC in 2014..

@Magnus04900

8 ай бұрын

@@vb2388 exactly ronaldo only won ucl and that too 90% credit goes to ramos and di maria in the final ramos scored at last minute and di maria was the motm avg Ronaldo meat rider knowledge he has

Haaland was just unlucky to win the treble during a WC year. Now all he needs to do is to replicate this feat within the next couple of years, easy golden ball in the bag

@DillaryHuff

8 ай бұрын

I get the impression that a lot of people fail to see that trebles are won less frequently than world cups 😅 As far as I'm aware, City became the second team in Premier League history to win the treble last season. Man United were the first team who won it, and they did so during the 90s.

@majormononoke8958

8 ай бұрын

Well, no hate but i personally think the triples of Barcelona is worth more than it. Since all big teams in England fell other than Arsenal that did in the last part of the season. Man city having the best players and most squad depth on top level. Worth more than the 2 German triples for sure. But behind the 2 Barca triples. @@DillaryHuff

I've realized the last couple of years that many (mostly young people aka Gen Z'ers) have the opinion that the player with the most goals per season deserves the Ballon D'or. Thats not what the Ballon D'or is. That's the golden boot, kiddos. Ballon D'or is rewarded to the most IMPACTFUL player of the year. Tho, I too believe Haaland deserves it this year. Sidenote: Cannavaro was an absolute beast in 2006 and carried Italy to WC-win and Sneijder got robbed in 2010.

@swordsman1137

8 ай бұрын

This is true. This Messi-Ronaldo rivalry skew the award. Modric, Benzema (and should have been include Lewandowski) are the one that make more sense.

@potetoesman

8 ай бұрын

This comment speaks too much sense for this comment section.

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

It's not only about goals, everyone knows that, but of course goals & awards play a role which is why people mention them.

@peach-tea

8 ай бұрын

do you think we're still 9? my gf turns 25 this month

@69ninek

8 ай бұрын

haaland record last season ⚽️52 :goals 🪄:9 asisst in 🏃🏼‍♂️:53 games across all competitions as achieved a remarkable treble of Premier League, FA Cup and UEFA Champions Leagu Premier League Golden Boot City's first European Golden Shoe Etihad Player of the Season Premier League Player of the Season Premier League Young Player of the Season FWA Men’s Footballer of the Year Champions League Team of the Season Most Premier League goals in one season - 36 Most goals in all competitions by a player at a Premier League club - 52 Best minutes per goal ratio of any player in Premier League history - 77 mins/goal Most goals and assists in a 38-game Premier League season - 44 Hat-trick tally as many as every other Premier League player combined - 6 Premier League August Player of the Month Premier League April Player of the Month Most goals for City in a single season - 52 Most goals in a player’s first Premier League season for City - 36 Most goals scored at the Etihad Stadium in a single Premier League season - 22 Fastest player to score 10 goals in the Premier League - 6 appearances Fastest player to score 20 goals in the Premier League - 14 appearances Fastest player to score 25 goals in the Premier League - 19 appearances Fastest player to reach 25 goals under Pep Guardiola - 20 appearances First player in Premier League history to score a hat-trick in three consecutive home games First player in Premier League history to score in each of his first four away games First City player to score on both his Premier League and Champions League debut Most goals in first five Premier League appearances - 9 Most Premier League goals in August - 9 Most hat-tricks in a single season across all competitions by a Premier League striker - 6 First player to score hat-tricks in consecutive Premier League halves of football Fastest player to four Premier League hat-tricks - 19 appearances Most Champions League goals in 2022/23 - 12 Most goals in a single Champions League season for City - 12 Hit 30-goal milestone in fewer matches than any other player in Champions League history Hit 30-goal milestone at a younger age than any other player in Champions League history Most goals for an English club in a single Champions League season - 12 - Level with Ruud van Nistelrooy Third player ever to score five goals in one Champions League game Most hat-tricks at a single ground in a Premier League season - 4 - Level with Alan Shearer

Was having a really bad day cause I just bottled one of my exams big time. Thanks for uploading Tinashe❤

As a Messi fan , I was okay with Messi not winning the ballon dor with wc being the final hurdle completed but now as time passes that greed of cherry on top of his career would be amazing for me to see . Either ways if haaland wins i am all but happy (eras come to an end - also would be the last time we ever see messi on that podium :_)

@fishyfish6510

8 ай бұрын

Imagine an MLS player winning the Balón Dor 😭 The Yanks wouldn't have a clue what it even means

Love the vids man

Loved this video - Tinashe's gone full Moneyball!

I didn’t know about the whole team bias when players voted, they definitely explains some of CR7 and LM10’s wins

“ bigger than the hole my ex left in my heart “ 😭😭😭. We’re with you brother

I find myself laughing waay more than i should be, considering that fact that i just came here for some fire football analysis videos

Even tho I hate you on a personal level ( spurs vs man utd fan)😂😂😂😂😂 but your videos are some of the ruddy best on here!!!! Also smooth voice well jelly 😂❤

They really need a new award that isn't a joke

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

People need to stop caring about individual awards for a team sport

@LitoLochoss

8 ай бұрын

nah Messi are Ronaldo killed it in my opinion lol forward because of them re most important position

Tbh I think Messi and Ronaldo broke the award for a long time. Hopefully after this year it’ll be a new person every year

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

8 ай бұрын

The award was always broken with such a stupid criteria and voting system, Messi and Ronaldo dominance just completely exposed it.

5:39 justice for Eusebio

@dsavage6618

8 ай бұрын

Portugals Best player ever

@johnrockyryan

8 ай бұрын

The only reason England won that world cup is because it was held in their own country Eusebio and Portugal deserved to win that world cup

2018 19 Messi Laliga winner European golden boot winner Ucl player of the season Ucl top scorer Laliga most goals. Laliga most assists 49 games 52 goals 31 assists Vandjyk champions league winner

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

U cant compare a forwards and defendef man stopp😅

@beardragon3951

8 ай бұрын

A defender is suppose to win golden boot and top scorer award? Are you stupid or what man😂 defenders are there to defend and he had one of , if not the greatest single defensive season ever.

Nowadays your inner the man utd, Ronaldo and prem fan is showing itself too much 😂,great commentary and vid btw,love your sense of humor and way of narration. . . . . ( and if you wouldn't mind could you make a short vid on the joke that's fan voting of golden boy award, watching Taylor swift and BTS fans vote for candidates they don't actually know while not realizing (apparently)fan votes actually don't have any affect on the actual voting,it's amusing to say the least )

The Ballon D'or lost it's credibility ever since Modric won it

My key takeaway from this is my boy got hit by mjolo the pandemic 😂

I personally think Messi should win and I think he will win. Great video as always my man, cheers!

Love your videos bro

I just want to clarify... 3 Argentina born players have won de Ballon D'or Lionel Messi : 7 times Alfredo Di Stefano: 2 Times Omar Sivor: 1 Time So yeah, Argentina has won it 10 times, not 9. Great video! Greetings from Argentina😅

Balon D’Or is an individual award,if it was purely based on that Messi would’ve won every single one since 2009,there’s no player that has been better than Messi individually in that timeframe

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

brody Xavi and iniesta won the WC with better stats than modric 2018 not just scoring wise but playmaking succesfull pass completed dribble succesfull tackle etc Sneijder won the treble and a world cup finalist (runner up) Messi deff robbed 2010 if u guys saying world cup winner deserve it than xavi or iniesta deserve it PESSI FANS LOGIC 💨📈

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

So then why did ronaldo win in 2014 when Germany won the World Cup? Why not a German player?

@Aaddy7

8 ай бұрын

delusional fanboy detected

@mbinosbata4888

8 ай бұрын

Sometimes I don’t think we are watching the same sport 😂 I really wish we had 10-20 players who were just as good as Messi in that during that timeframe 2009-2023 it would’ve been great for the sport and great to watch and debate on ,it just never happened,CR7 did try though,that’s why people love him he tried standing up to Messi’s reign of terror

I think Rodri deserve the ballon D'or for what he has been doing consistently for club and country and as a Dm . Forwards is always winning this award and it's getting boring because midfielders and defenders have little to no chance of winning this prestige award .

@vassilyvodka2638

8 ай бұрын

Let's not talk about goalkeepers

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

Sneijder A world cup finalist a treble winner with Inter in 2010 and yet wasnt even top 3 The biggest robbed in history

@elrio404

8 ай бұрын

@@fotballaddictHe’s trash brother

@majormononoke8958

8 ай бұрын

lol, Neuer triple an world cup winner ...@@fotballaddict

unreal video once again

nigga as amanzingh as Busi's pass was, you CANNOT take away anything from the brilliance of what Messi did to those legendary players... that goal deserves all the praise.

Those bastards will vote for messi just because he is a good boy, the former fifa president said it plenty of times. The only one who deserves it on pure football is Haaland like it or not.

As a CR7 fan, Messi deserves it. When a European wins the World Cup, its due too legendary performances but when a South-American wins it, its just a 4 week tournament. Messi had 7 goals and 4 assists at the WC. He scored a brace in the final whilst winning Player of the Tournament award (first to do that since Romario in 1994). He made Gvardiol, Aké and van Dijk look like children. He showed up in every match and was involved in nearly every goal. . I'm a Dutchie and Madridista. My hate for Messi at times was at its maximum but even I know Messi deserves it. His own countrymen criticized him. Saying that you can't be the goat without a WC and that he'll never lace the shoes of Maradona. He proved everyone wrong. When he was given the ball he improvised. He did not solely rely on his teammates to give him the best ball in the box. Matthäus won it in 1990 for WC. Stoichkov won it in 1994 for WC performance. Zidane won it in 1998 for WC. R9 won it in 2002 for WC. Cannavaro won it in 2006 for WC. Modric won it in 2018 for WC performance but watch them rob Messi. Haaland is phenomenal but he's not a big game player. What seperates GOATS from Legends is their ability to show up in big games. In semi-finals and finals whether if that's the local league cup, the World Cup or the UCL. I rate Mbappe higher than Haaland, purely for the fact that these 3 can score free kicks and can make ridiculous solo runs to turn around matches. Man City is the embodiment of modern day football. Its a system which aims to provide Haaland. There is no room for fantasy dribblers like Neymar. Its modern day football and it sometimes feels like dead football even though its simply a pure masterclass from Guardiola in the tactician department. Messi, Ronaldo and Mbappe on the other hand, score goals from far away, make insane runs by themselves to complete the most insane comebacks. You can even debate that KDB was more important than Haaland. Argentina won but not because of the team alone. They won because it was one man that uplifted the spirit of an entire nation, one man that was so respected that other players waited till he walked out of the tunnel and unto the field, one man that was so important that his teammates turned into prime Pepe when he was touched by opponents. Argentina would not have won all these cups without Messi. City won 5 out of the last 6 PL titles. Messi gave Argentina something, only Maradona could give them.

Julian Alvarez at 2 and not having neymar or mbappe up there in the last 4 years is crazy 😂😂

dont be stupid, we are all know for using emotion to choose who get Ballon Dor, well if it is actual still worth something

I think the UEFA Men’s award is slowly becoming the real award

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

That’s the biggest joke award in football

@technica6338

8 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 FIFA The Best is the joke award, looking like a can of pepsi

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

​@@tevildo45tf u mean

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 It’s a genuine award that has way less complications than the ballon d’or & fifa best player.

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

Nobody cares about it

Y’all are gonna go crazy once Onana wins it

@juniorquinones4740

8 ай бұрын

😂

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

😭

Great watch as always 👊🏿. It's interesting how this award got more and more important with the social media age. Growing up I remember it would just be an afterthought. Still had the same prestige of course but never had so much furore and debate

Bro you deserve more subs

Messi will not win it because 1. He defeated FRANCE in the World Cup Final (Country who creates the award) 2. He transferred to America. It's a minus to the award itself for someone away from Europe to win it removing the prestige of the award 3. Voter fatigue. It's tiring for Messi wins this award time to time.

@Peter_file

8 ай бұрын

Even messi has said that he doesn’t care if he wins it’s crazy how they still want him to win when he doesn’t care over someone that cares and is playing better

I'm a huge Messi fan but I think that Haaland will win it this time. He does deserve it, plus Messi is hated in France (the country that hands out this award).

@DrPranabesh

8 ай бұрын

Penaldo fan spotted 😅

@christoforospapandreou

8 ай бұрын

@@DrPranabesh Nope

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@DrPranabesh Pindian spotted 🤦‍♂️

@69ninek

8 ай бұрын

@@DrPranabesh haaland record last season ⚽️52 :goals 🪄:9 asisst in 🏃🏼‍♂️:53 games across all competitions as achieved a remarkable treble of Premier League, FA Cup and UEFA Champions Leagu Premier League Golden Boot City's first European Golden Shoe Etihad Player of the Season Premier League Player of the Season Premier League Young Player of the Season FWA Men’s Footballer of the Year Champions League Team of the Season Most Premier League goals in one season - 36 Most goals in all competitions by a player at a Premier League club - 52 Best minutes per goal ratio of any player in Premier League history - 77 mins/goal Most goals and assists in a 38-game Premier League season - 44 Hat-trick tally as many as every other Premier League player combined - 6 Premier League August Player of the Month Premier League April Player of the Month Most goals for City in a single season - 52 Most goals in a player’s first Premier League season for City - 36 Most goals scored at the Etihad Stadium in a single Premier League season - 22 Fastest player to score 10 goals in the Premier League - 6 appearances Fastest player to score 20 goals in the Premier League - 14 appearances Fastest player to score 25 goals in the Premier League - 19 appearances Fastest player to reach 25 goals under Pep Guardiola - 20 appearances First player in Premier League history to score a hat-trick in three consecutive home games First player in Premier League history to score in each of his first four away games First City player to score on both his Premier League and Champions League debut Most goals in first five Premier League appearances - 9 Most Premier League goals in August - 9 Most hat-tricks in a single season across all competitions by a Premier League striker - 6 First player to score hat-tricks in consecutive Premier League halves of football Fastest player to four Premier League hat-tricks - 19 appearances Most Champions League goals in 2022/23 - 12 Most goals in a single Champions League season for City - 12 Hit 30-goal milestone in fewer matches than any other player in Champions League history Hit 30-goal milestone at a younger age than any other player in Champions League history Most goals for an English club in a single Champions League season - 12 - Level with Ruud van Nistelrooy Third player ever to score five goals in one Champions League game Most hat-tricks at a single ground in a Premier League season - 4 - Level with Alan Shearer

Messi’s 2019 ballon d’or is fully deserved. Man played 3 different roles and was the backbone of attack and playmaking. Had it not been for Anfield he would’ve almost single handedly won a treble himself. Had the most goals in UCL and most player of the week as well. Top scorer in la Liga and top assister as well. They only got defeated in la Liga once and that was because Messi did not play.

14:19 Is this Drogba and what year was that, I really need to know what was behind this reaction

I find it interesting how wrapped up people get in who wins the ballon d'or. A couple years ago, I hoped Lewandowski would win. He didn't and I though, damn, that sucks, and moved on with my life. Not winning the ballon d'or doesn't make the player any less special. You also don't need an award to tell you who the best player is, my eyes do that for me.

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

I’m 37 and nobody used to care about it at all, it’s only been a big thing maybe the last 10 years

@technica6338

8 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 Because FIFA stupidly collaborated with France Football to rename it the FIFA Ballon d'Or. Even after the collaboration ended, people now associate the Ballon d'Or with the greatest FIFA accomplishment despite being voted on by journalists. Messi and Ronaldo rivalry also skyrocketed the public value of the Ballon d'Or with how they were winning it for 10 straight years.

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

Yet u thought Lewandowski should have won it

@MyGamerFUZE

8 ай бұрын

@@prometheustv6558 And? What's your point?

In my opinion I would be fine if either Messi or Haaland wins the Ballon d'or. They both deserve it.

@aron4117

8 ай бұрын

Haaland should win. He had a record smashing season in the best league in the world and finally won Man City their UCL. It kina feels like an after thought because of the world cup but Haaland reached prime Messi and Ronaldo heights in arguably a better league compared to back then

@Kenneth1398ryh

8 ай бұрын

@aron4117 haaland didn’t reach prime Messi/Ronaldo heights in any way. Don’t let recency bias confuse you. 52 goals was nothing to them, Messi prime has had 50 goals in the league only. Haaland is no where near their prime level.

@josesaenz5403

8 ай бұрын

@@Kenneth1398ryhpeople seem to forget that prime Ronaldo and Messi weren’t humans they could single handedly take down elite teams. Haaland is spoon fed. Not trying to make merit away from him because he is a lethal finisher but nowhere near the other 2

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@aron4117 In terms of completing their position, Messi 2012 was the best, in terms of general completion, Cristiano in 2008 was the best.

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@josesaenz5403Messi had the same numbers as Ronaldo while being an outstanding dribbler and playmaker. That says it all

Many people seem confused between Ballon d'or (best player) and Golden boot (Top scorer) All it takes to win golden boot is scoring the most from anyone else. Even if it's a penalty or tap ins. It counts. While to win ballon d'or, it's a little bit tricky, because it's from your average performance rating over the year and not just from the goal. The key is being consistently the best in every match = most man of the match in a year. Of course, the ballon d'or is only relevant when their team actually won something in the first place because of that player influence. Not just sitting on the bench, while golden boot can stiil be won if a player manages to score 100 goals in a match and then sits on the bench a whole season

I think for 2023 it's a perfect split down the middle for either Haaland or Messi. I love them both so I won't be whining either way. It really is just down to preference. Messi was in a less competitive league and is no longer in Europe but had a ridiculous WC performance that was nothing short of historic and it's not really fair to hold it over his head for over a decade and say that not winning the WC is the reason he wasn't the best but then when he goes and wins it say that it's 'just the world cup'... Then there's Haaland who had an absolutely ridiculous season and won the treble but was a striker in by far the best team in Europe (not much competition for the PL title when 4/6 of the big teams are in the mud) and tbh he kinda ghosted in against Madrid and in both finals... so yeah. Could go either way and I'd be happy with either winner. As for the ballon d'or as a whole, I think the voting should be more rigorous but overall I've been pretty satisfied with the results. I don't think you can argue that Benzema, Modric or Messi (to name a few recent winners) were not deserving winners in their own right. There's unfortunately always going to be someone who gets the short end of the stick, that's how it's gonna be when you try and whittle down every player in the biggest team sport down to one. It's a necessary concept but an inherently messy one. I think this video overlooked a couple of things but overall it's a good idea to demand more accountability from big organisations.

Messi should win, there's no numbers behind an influcence a player can impose of their team by just playing good, lelading it or motivating it(yeah it's a team sport), for this year it's obvious who had the influence on their team the most, for me at least.

@garyanderton

8 ай бұрын

My man, Messi did nothing for PSG. Rodri on the other hand got a treble + nations league. He was also the MOTM in CL and NL final. You speak of the influence a player has on a team without it being evident in numbers, well look no further than Rodri, City's own Busquets.

@xaltotunacheron7544

8 ай бұрын

@@garyanderton I don't disagree, really. But city would have won it anyways, even without him. IMO

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

​@@xaltotunacheron7544thats why this is the first time they won an ucl 😅 and a treble winner Lmao messi fans logic📉 man i cant

@Peter_file

8 ай бұрын

@@xaltotunacheron7544no they wouldn’t if they had Kalvin Philips where Rodri was they would not have won

@garyanderton

8 ай бұрын

@@xaltotunacheron7544 They lost last CL final where they benched Rodri. His goal also got them the only goal. Inter had a higher xG as well. Everything says they wouldn't win without Rodri.

Haaland should win it because he will run the world football post Messi and Ronald era, one of who, as we already know, has been immortalized as the GOAT.

@jigglebiggle2799

8 ай бұрын

Ronaldo may have immortalized himself as the goat but Messi is still basically right behind him, idk why there’s an argument there, we lived to see the top 2 footballers the world will ever see.

@Michallote

8 ай бұрын

Messi is just pure magic. Goat for me.

@peach-tea

8 ай бұрын

@@Michallote anyone who disputes this by now is extremely biased imo

@partapshergill6476

8 ай бұрын

​​@@jigglebiggle2799ronaldo isn't even top 5.

@iampog9757

8 ай бұрын

@@partapshergill6476Ronaldo is top three and also the greatest goal scorer oat

This guy passes the vibe check .. prety cool dude

Messi and Haaland both have a shot at and a decent argument to win imo

@almighty.des_

8 ай бұрын

Wtf Messi 🤮🤧😷

@GIBBO4182

8 ай бұрын

@@almighty.des_you should experiment…and think

@08BostonCeltics1

8 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182you’re just a Messi fanboy. An award given based on a CALENDAR YEAR yet a 4-week period undoes everything? Maybe u should be the one thinking

@GIBBO4182

8 ай бұрын

@@08BostonCeltics1 quicker to just type “I ❤️ Ronaldo”

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@08BostonCeltics1it’s based on a season

9:34 This is the greatest assist of all time.

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

He done nothing

@Junior-llll

8 ай бұрын

Lol giving the ball to Messi as he dribbles past 17 players including the subs and manager is the greatest assist?😂

@___Christopher___

8 ай бұрын

I see the irony is lost on some people.

@milkynom

8 ай бұрын

Can't believe people say the goal is better than the assist smh

@Noobman69420

8 ай бұрын

Most iconic

People who're saying winning world cup as the team's best player should automatically give someone the ballon d'Or don't even know that the last time it happened was in 2006.These same people said wc win doesn’t matter when messi won it in 2010 or when ronaldo won in it in 2014. Idolizing can really make people blind it seems😂

Emotionally I want Messi to win it. The best to ever play should get one last Ballon D'or to finish his career after winning a long awaited world cup for his country

What's crazier is that Griezmann deserves it

@Myst_HD

8 ай бұрын

Thats actually an amazing point. Atletico had a stinker first half of the season but after the WC, when it was actually 2023, he was incredible and helped Atletico have an insane second half of the season, even catching up to Real Madrid in points, he was the star man. And since the few weeks of the WC seem to count so much to people (saying Messi should win), he was arguably the best player of France, present in all phases of play, and maybe even best player of the tournament. The fact that it didn't cross my mind until I saw your comment makes me think that the journalists might not even think of him since, even in the WC, Mbappe was mentioned more than him cause of the goals. He deserves it more than Messi. I hope Rodri gets the recognition while being a CDM. Maybe that goal in the final might help the goldfish-brained journalists remember that he was the most important player in the Treble win and even won the Nations League with Spain as a bonus.

@dontaye___

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 I love Griezman but nah.

@umbela5646

8 ай бұрын

but he should get a spot in the nominee list@@dontaye___

Im not sure I like the insinuation that Messi will only win it because of story and bias alone. There’s so many arguments excluding sentiment aside for Messi to win the competition. I want to see Haaland reward for his amazing season, and it! sucks because Messi already has 7… arguably one of them undeserved… but at the same time I don’t think we should give to someone because he doesn’t have one yet and Messi has 1. I believe the conversation should be less about if they’re Argentinian… and more about what they did during this year .

@Impostor39890

8 ай бұрын

Right, Haaland should win Ghost D'Or for ghosting in big matches.

@dunmat2474

8 ай бұрын

My friend Messi deserved the Balon DOR from the day he started playing the ball. He deserved it ever year........

Winning the world cup, been the best player of the tournament and second highest goal scorer and most assist in the tournament is something special. The world cup is the most important competition in the world of football the championship league, is played every year so is the premier league and all other domestic tournaments, The world cup is so special from qualifiers to the tournament, There is a different between a goal scorer and best player, How can you possibly think anyone should win it apart from Messi is just pure jealousy and hatred imagine been the highest rated player in Europe at 35 let that sink in.

Alvarez is a baller, wouldn't mind him winning.

We need to go back to 2000s when the best footballer would win the award. Not Haaland because of quantity of goals, not Messi for winning the World Cup.

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

Yes, not haaland for getting ucl golden boot, unl golden boot, premier league golden boot, european golden boot, most g/a, treble, broke the premier league goalscoring record & tied the UNL goalscoring record for the 2nd time..

@eziisreal

8 ай бұрын

my guy haaland was the best player last season what are you on about?

@fishyfish6510

8 ай бұрын

This comment is sponsored by Pavel Nedved

@chabu2306

8 ай бұрын

it was still flawed in the 2000s Nedved won in the Ballon d'Or instead of Henry and the next year Shevchenko wont it instead of Deco. This just shows that even back then it was flawed so your point saying go back to how they voted in the 2000s is flawed

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

@Quipie- see top scorer already gets an award for scoring the most goals, this is for best player

Depends on which way the wind is blowing.

If Ballon d'or is a popularity contest, then Messi is the one of the most popular players ever (if not the most, it exists before instagram or any social media)

i wonder how many ballon dor winner didnt even participate in the world cup in the same year or failed to qualify for knockout rounds.

@pandamoon1214

8 ай бұрын

I just checked it. It was only Kevin Keegan (1978) who didnt qualify to the world cup and Ronaldo (2014) who failed to qualify for knockout rounds. 75 % of all Ballon D'or Winner atleast made it to the top4 which has the maximum amount of games played during a wold cup.

A different breed is a player that controls the game. A striker is not a "different breed"

I somewhat think the data would be also interesting should you remove both Messi and Ronaldo from the equation for the last 25 years or so. You know, removing the outliers from data sets.

TL;DR - Be an attacking minded player - Be marketable - Score a fair bit in the season (goals count a lot higher then assists) - Be French (optional for a few bonus points)

@user-ir8er1bh4q

8 ай бұрын

Messi beeing the best player 2018 and not even in the top 5 proves it. I am happy for Modric tho, but Messi not making it in to top 5 that year was crazy. On the other hand many players act as if Messi only wins it for beeing Messi, but I guess those people dont take a look beyond the goal count.

@zosiazaremba7479

8 ай бұрын

It's amazing how Luka Modric doesn't check any of those points. My legend ❤

@devoeditz1

8 ай бұрын

@@zosiazaremba7479 lol

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-ir8er1bh4qbrody Xavi and iniesta won the WC with better stats than modric 2018 not just scoring wise but playmaking succesfull pass completed dribble succesfull tackle etc Sneijder won the treble and a world cup finalist (runner up) Messi deff robbed 2010 if u guys saying world cup winner deserve it than xavi or iniesta deserve it PESSI FANS LOGIC 💨📈

I need a football iconic - have hope collab. I dream.

My man is looking good with some facial hair

I don't think numbering these things would help though. There were too many variables that could be in play. Rather than putting them separately, i think it should be considered in one unified whole consisting of individual performances, clutch/brilliant moments, and awards/accolades the player had. Haaland vs. Messi probably would end up like Modric in 17/18. Despite him being the best forward in the sport right now, Haaland wasn't crucial in Man City's treble win. In fact, people could argue that in early 2022/23, Haaland's lack of versatility weaken City significantly. He didn't consistently score in big games, nor he was clutch (if anything, that was Gundogan and Rodri). Messi, on the other hand had worse domestic record, but his individual moments were absolutely ridiculous in World Cup. He basially decked all the teams in the knockouts almost single-handedly; that goal vs. Australia, that impossible assist vs. Netherlands, his pass winning a penalty and treating Gvardiol like an amateur vs Croatia, and that movement of his and Lautaro vs. France. I think Haaland probably should win it, but the distance between those two isn't as far as people think. Messi will end up winning it though.

@lexkanyima2195

8 ай бұрын

What you saying is true. But the performance matters

@tomatoisnotafruit5670

8 ай бұрын

What you say makes a lot of sense, but it also shows why Haaland shouldn't win the award. Haaland was not the best player, he just scored the most goals, that's it. he is the best goalscorer, but not the best player. Those are not the same thing.

@yoshuareynaldo2295

8 ай бұрын

@@tomatoisnotafruit5670 Yea, that's why i said Messi's not that far behind him. I wouldn't be bothered as well if Messi win it

What’s funny about all this is that Halland is most favorable to win because FIFA is looking for its next Poster Child

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

Haaland deserved it tho😅

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

Fifa don’t choose the winner

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@tevildo45 the voting is by fifa's top 100 ranked journalists.. so the winner is still in the hands of fifa..

@Kjetil.Fox-ou7ns

8 ай бұрын

@@fotballaddictHe Does,No One Would Say Messi Deserves Ballon Do’r If It Wasn’t For The WC

@fishyfish6510

8 ай бұрын

Haaland deserves it

Sneijder A world cup finalist a treble winner with Inter in 2010 and yet wasnt even top 3 The biggest robbed in history

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

Wasn’t even voted best player in Serie a or the World Cup 2010

The French don’t have a process for anything other than winemaking

Your system was'nt that bad you just made a mistake with causation. Messi & Ronaldo win a lot of Ballon dors => Real, Barca, La liga, Arg, and Por obviously get boosted statwise. They didnt win because they played for those Teams. Imo Country, League and Team should have been left out completly. You should have instead added amount of Hatricks, amount of playtime, Winning Goals for different Leagues. Boost the Value of the World Cup since it only happens every 4 years and give Messi a +5 just for existing. Then its probably accurate.

@FootballIconic

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. This was more of a commonality assessment than an actual assessment on performance. The award is inherently biased. But I think a look at those in-game stats is interesting topic for the future!

@fotballaddict

8 ай бұрын

Wtf by 5+ for messi for just existing the hell 😅

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

@@fotballaddictbecause he’s better than all the rest

Rodri completely deserves it. He is the most important to the best team in the world right now. He runs, dribbles, tackles, scores, assists, intercepts, progressively passes etc. He is the most complete. He has silverware, he has individual accolades, he has everything!

Sooooo Julian Alvarez needs to play in Spain, gotcha

This is a really tough dilemma for me im a city fan and wanna see a city player win it for the first time in our history but at the same time i wanna see messi get his last golden ball atleast, honestly i wouldn't be bothered if rodri runs away with it as he had the international and club trophies 😅

If u were to take away the names of the players and just look at stats and achievements then it’s Haaland in a landslide. Only issue is Messi name is front and center and approaching sports with an unbiased approach is rare these days

@Impostor39890

8 ай бұрын

You wouldn't make this comment if you actually bother to research.

@Michallote

8 ай бұрын

You cant measure Messi by stats, he has that Wow factor wheneber he plays

@gaoaibai6243

8 ай бұрын

Messi had the stats dude atleast do some research before writing on KZread.

@Quipie

8 ай бұрын

@@gaoaibai6243 Dude, a majority of Messi’s stats were from ligue 1, which Haaland would’ve probably scored like 60 goals in, & international friendlies 😭

@prometheustv6558

8 ай бұрын

He’s front and center because he’s the greatest of all time

Messi win vs Van Dijk was extremely and totally deserved. Only some brainless CR7 fans can claim that he didn't deserve that one after having the biggest carry job ever from a footballer. Lewa was robbed the 2020 award by fifa and also its arguable he deserved the 2021 one that Messi won. Ronaldo deserved the 2018 one too. This year Messi absolutely deserves it after the greatest performance in the greatest competition in all of sports plus second best club numbers albeit in easier leagues. Halaand winning it would be absolutely deserved too

@vauxvids

8 ай бұрын

Haaland was not as good as what people say, he was not as good as Kane in the Prem and was not as consistent in the Champions League.

@maxwellmaragia2272

8 ай бұрын

@@vauxvids Maybe but his numbers are just too insane to ignore despite not performing in big games. KDB and Rodri deserve a shout too

Erling will be in contention again, this is Messi's last big trophy to cap off the world cup and his amazing career. I say we put our biases aside and let the world celebrate Messi one last time before Erling dominates for the foreseeable future

Good performance and PR

if haaland doesn't win it its rigged😆

@yes-wh1zj

8 ай бұрын

R9 won a ballon d'or despite being injured all season. Paolo rossi won a ballon d'or despite playing 3 games all season. You can say haaland deserves the ballon d'or but dismissing messi from the conversation is idiotic.

@Model_Roe

8 ай бұрын

Messi will get it this year

@GIBBO4182

8 ай бұрын

@@yes-wh1zjnot to mention Cannavaro in 2006

@LesGrossman7

8 ай бұрын

Always has been

@yes-wh1zj

8 ай бұрын

@@GIBBO4182 i can mention everysingle ballon d'or winner before 2010. They all either had a great world cup or won the thing. The mental gymnastics by some people trying to completely omit messi from the discussion are pathetic.

i hope Messi wins it 🥰🥰

@azrrrrrrrr

8 ай бұрын

Doesnt deserve it but sure

@markrodger4601

8 ай бұрын

​@@azrrrrrrrrWell he has an argument mate

@abhinavburnwal863

8 ай бұрын

​@@azrrrrrrrr35+ goals 25+ assists.. Not deserving?

@elv6240

8 ай бұрын

@@abhinavburnwal863 farmed those stats in france and had a stinker in europe just like mbappe 🤭

@azrrrrrrrr

8 ай бұрын

@abhinavburnwal863 context matters! He played on a superstar squad that barely won 5th strongest league and got embarrased in champions league. He played well at world cup but that is not enough cause rest of his season was bad. Haaland and de bruyne bith won treble and should win ballon d or as well