So the Ballon d'Or is what I thought it is.

@PhilWhelanNow

Жыл бұрын

I hear you & we probably agree. It’s a European award, decided on by European journalists. Football is a team sport though, so supporters don’t really care about it. They’d argue & almost always disagree over who’s the best players anyway.

@ConfusedProud

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, nice video but horrible clickbait title

@T.E.S.S.

Жыл бұрын

@@ConfusedProud it's not clickbait. lots of people don't know what it really is.

@charlesray9674

Жыл бұрын

@@T.E.S.S. So what is it really?

@12000gp

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesray9674 exactly what you thought it was

After they refused to give Lewandowski's 2020 Ballon D'Or, and made a fake award for him the year after, they revealed their true colours. The award should mean nothing now.

@kaustavborgohain5161

Жыл бұрын

2021 ballon d'or was rigged

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

If I was a footballer and I won this award it would still mean a lot

@BigSmoke61056

Жыл бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 🤡

@fahimershad

Жыл бұрын

@@kaustavborgohain5161 remember 2013?

@LilmeMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@kaustavborgohain5161 They gave Messi because he won Argentina's first title in 28 years. If Argentina won trophies in the recent past, this one wouldn't matter as much and Lewa would have probably won 2021 ballon d'or. He got robbed but thats just my opinion

It’s just a popularity contest; the more your team wins, the more you are in the spotlight, the more people talk about it. Simple as that.

@SlimClipper

Жыл бұрын

Then there’s media narratives and bias from journalist voters.

@shreyanshbhilwade7959

Жыл бұрын

Yes sir

@JustaWonderer419

Жыл бұрын

If that's the case then Ronaldo would've 14 B'Dor by now.

@naheem

Жыл бұрын

@@JustaWonderer419He would have been even more insufferable had it not been for the little Argentinian

@JustaWonderer419

Жыл бұрын

@@naheem yeah little Argentinian bottled him hard..

Messi and Ronaldo destroyed this award. They were so above the rest that it became a competition between who could win the most that year, and unfortunately that has become one of the main criteria for the award even after their dominance has ended. Jorginho being the third best player in the world for being part of two teams who won their tournaments even when he was not the most important player in neither of those teams has killed the idea of this award entirely. It has become another team trophy, I do not think your have to be in the Champions League winning team to be the best player in the world at the time, and it seems to have become a requisite when there is no international tournament going on.

@hydro4921

Жыл бұрын

It’s just heavily bias

@mrmeeseeks2534

Жыл бұрын

Messi and Ronaldo didn’t destroy the award,it was France football

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

I know stats don't mean everything but to be fair during the Euros Jorginho covered the most ground of any player, joint most recoveries, second most passes of any player, won most fouls, made most interceptions

@mrmeeseeks2534

Жыл бұрын

@@rohithraman6488 ppl just hate him cuz he scores penalties-now I’m not saying him finishing 3rd but he is an overhated player

@ianhaverlach6279

Жыл бұрын

Well cannavaro wouldn’t have won without the wc

My biggest issue with the Balloon d'Or is that people think it's a fair vote.

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

It's subjective. I don't know if there will ever be a time for it to objective.

@mr_niceman

Жыл бұрын

it's as fair as any democracies in the world...what do you expect? An algorithm picking the winner of the ballon d or?

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

@@mr_niceman Yep.

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

@@mr_niceman Football is a subjective sport.

@moeswagger2329

Жыл бұрын

@@mr_niceman it's just not consistent with it's awarding. one year it's based on trophies, the other based on numbers.

If they actually followed a set of rules to pick the winner….more people would’ve taken the award seriously

@mhtv5959

Жыл бұрын

Most people who don't take it seriously are the ones who don't want certain players to win it.

@debameetsaha3906

Жыл бұрын

People who don't win it do that

@hnaku8748

Жыл бұрын

We'd be arguing about the rules then.

@todd1928

Жыл бұрын

How would you even create rules for this?

@alexandrumircea

Жыл бұрын

The last thing it needs is to become even bigger. On the contrary, it needs to become less popular because it distorts public perception so much and so badly

This is exactly what I thought the Ballon d'Or was

@Perfect_Bond

Жыл бұрын

Yeah exactly what I was thinking lol, kind of a click bait video

So, in summary, the Ballon D’or is exactly what people think?

@charlesray9674

Жыл бұрын

Yeah....exactly what they think

@Julian_orwell

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Most articles from the Athletic have unfortunately become all glitter and little substance.

@zaidsada6841

Жыл бұрын

Clickbait

@kohikappu

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@Model_Roe

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it doesn't matter a lot of historical great footballers never won it does that take away from their legacy? I don't think so

The real problem is WE pay too much attention to it. If we ignored it a bit more it would lose a lot of influence, but football fans end up making it what it is.

@kyanh7720

7 ай бұрын

Messi fans I believe

TL;DR: It was pure European player of the year till 1995. Then it evolved into becoming European Leagues' player of the year.

@1998Cebola

Жыл бұрын

Until 2007, now it is global, as they stated in the video, which is why Neymar was close to winning it while still at Santos

@BrewBun

Жыл бұрын

@@1998Cebola Listen there are so many good players around the world but they don't get enough exposure. And most of the leagues are weak so any average player from average PL, Laliga, Serie-A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Eredivisie, Liga nos players will shine in those leagues. So it's a bit complex to engage all the leagues to choose the winner

@rubex229

Жыл бұрын

@@BrewBun Let's be real, there isn't any player outside of the European leagues that has a shot to make the top 30 list let alone win the whole thing

You forgot to mention that France Football went back and revised the winners with South American inclusion and said that Pele would have won 7 times, Maradona in 1986 and 1990, Garrincha in 1962, Kempes in 1978 and Romario in 1994.

I just wish this was still an individual award, rather than given to the player with the most major trophies that year.

Alfredo Di Stefano was technically the first South American to win it. He was Argentinian that later nationalized as Spanish when he was playing in Real Madrid in the 50s.

The real problem is the lack of consistency. One year they give it to most mediatic guy who won the important tournament, next year to the most mediatic guy who had most stats in just a single or two categories like goals/assists (which by default leaves out any players that arent forwards) even if he wasnt in a team that won anything. Many people opinions about who should have won it arent better to be honest (most of the time, worse) like giving it to the guy who scored the winning goal in a WC even if that guy was injuried most of that year and didnt play most of it, or wasnt even a starter in many games for his clubs (yes, I am talking about Iniesta) . It is a prize for the whole year performance.

@arionasani2350

Жыл бұрын

Ineista did not deserve it 2010 that was Weisley Sneider but Ineista deserved it in 2009.

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

True, i always found it funny how people claims they no longer gives a damn about ballon dor (just because their favourite player didn't win) only to talk about it religiously again the next year

@yankeewz8377

Жыл бұрын

Facts! I never thought iniesta deserved it in 2010. I thought sniejder did based on trophies. But in terms of pure footballing no one in the world played better than Leo Messi that year so I had no problem with him winning it.

@tonyneculai4576

Жыл бұрын

That is because of the voting system, in ballon d'or it's journalists from 190 countries who vote, and since most of them didn't play football, some fail to see the difference. FIFA Best Player is better as besides journalists in the voting system enter also team captains, managers and fans, so you have 2 categories ( captains and managers) who are more involved and have more knowledge - that's why for example Zidane won only once ballon d'or but won 3 times Fifa best player :) ballon d'or is wrong by design :)

@brandonjablasone7544

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyneculai4576that sounds even worst

The first South American to win the Ballon d'Or was Di Stefano (Argentinean) in 1956. The second one was Sivori, Argentinean too, in 1961

@iuri9161

Жыл бұрын

they won because they naturalized

@gaston6800

Жыл бұрын

@@iuri9161 That's true, but they were Argentinian and should be recognized as the first South Americans to win it.

I would like see a the ballon d’Or in a different form. First GK then defender, midfielder, attacker. So you get 4 players from each position then you give it to the best player

@Samsonjukeria

Жыл бұрын

Yes this is good method

@ChrisMDi

Жыл бұрын

The ballon d'or is only for midfield and attaking players now with yashin for keepers and a new maldini award suggested

@marjkc9937

Жыл бұрын

That might be a good idea but then again it could happen that the second best player of a position is better than the first one of a different position. that wouldn’t be fair neither

@coachhbosoccer

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a Real fan, but based on what you're saying Sergio Ramos could have won it, even with the Red cards lol. Good idea thiugh

@mohdshahariar5833

Жыл бұрын

Yashin award for gk's, golden shield for defenders, golden brain for midfielders, and golden boot for strikers, and ballon d'or is one who tops at the most stats compared to any player.

No award in a group sport can be accurately given to the best performer. As a mathematician, determining the best player in a season is very difficult if not impossible. We have to dive down to subjectivity rather than objectivity in this case. There are many different and overlapping roles in football. Goals, saves and interceptions are not the only stats which determine the performance of a player. For a forward for eg. we need to consider goals, assists, key passes, through balls, dribbles, duels won etc. Apart from these quantitative stats, many non quantifiable stats exist as well. For eg. impact of player position on opposition play, vision, irregularities in opposition defence caused by player etc. Now even if we somehow quantify these stats, assigning them weightages/importance in order to get a composite score for comparing players becomes a subjective matter. Apart from this, many forwards also contribute in defence, we need to track that as well. A similar approach can be followed for defenders and midfielders. In the end, it will boil down to subjectivity. Goals, assists, saves etc cannot be used as a yardstick to compare players in different and even similar roles to award them a trophy. The easiest and effective approach therefore is a subjective one based on a large sample size in order to predict the best performing player. The Balon D Or does that and therefore is a good measure of a player’s performance in a given season.

@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633

Жыл бұрын

Good analysis. But you yourself have shown that there are objective criteria. It's a combination of subjective and objective but I do think the objective wins out.

@kickassguy704

Жыл бұрын

@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 You don't understand it. The importance of objective criteria is subjective itself. So even if you use objective criteria, it becomes subjective in itself. Goals, assists, saves etc. cannot be used as a yardstick to compare players in different and even similar roles. It can be done only if one player outscores the other in more than 70-80% of the stats under consideration. This will ensure that whatever level of importance is given to a parameter, only one player will stand out in all the permutation and combination used for assigning importance to parameters. For example, Zidane and Maradonna don't have an outrageous amount of goals and assists which players have these days. If we use just goal contributions, then Lewandowski will eclipse Maradona by a mile. In terms of player quality and importance, this is not true though. Similarly if we just go by goal ratio which is the way better parameter than just goals, Ronaldo and Messi will not even be in the top 10 list of attacking players. This is not true though. Both of these are the finest players of this century until now.

With Diego Milito and Wayne Rooney not even being in top 23 in 2010 (also Sneijder being 4th), I lost all interest in the award. I wonder why nobody talks about Muller in 2014 (domestic double and WC, influential in both). The goals and assist bias along with media and marketing influence killed the award completely.

@Rayan01012

3 ай бұрын

Modric winning the ballon d'or and Sneijder not is a crime. Same for Benzema and luis Suarez

The creation of a separate "Yashin" category is just ridiculous that makes it seem like that Keepers aren't eligible for the Ballon D'or and as a result aren't good enough to win one with the exception of Yashin himself.

This is my first time catching an upload on its release. My life is complete.

I personally hate the Ballon D’or craze/obsession we’ve seen over the past few years. I think it’s pushing us towards an even more Americanised version of the sport where people support players and not teams. I watched a video (not sure if it was on this channel) on the evolution of celebrations and it showed how celebrations used to be a team thing and now they’re individual. American society is highly individualistic, that’s the whole purpose of the American dream. Players careers now seem to be less driven towards team/communal success and instead it’s individual success, ask a young player their dream now and I think most say win a ballon d’or over winning the league, champions league etc. I think we’re losing sight of football being a team game.

@riccardostopazzola7931

Жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree, this is the perfect summary of what's wrong with current football superstars

@AH-mp1fh

Жыл бұрын

I definitely agree on a a holistic level with this, but on a personal level I’ve always been more drawn to watching individuals than supporting a team. Not having an association with a team has always felt to me that I can be more objective around who (individuals and teams) are doing well. In the context of this award, I definitely agree with the criticism outlined

@celtic69

Жыл бұрын

@@AH-mp1fh I’m the opposite end of the spectrum, I support a team outside a top 5 league so I get to watch from an objective view point, but our best players who make you feel something always go on to the premier league eventually. So my support tends to be purely club over the individual.

@rohithraman6488

Жыл бұрын

So should football not have individual awards?

@kevingarcia7615

Жыл бұрын

I think the video you're talking about is on DW sport channel. I saw it too.

i remember when the most prestigious football award was FIFA world footballer of the year. When there was 1st place, 2nd place and 3rd place.

@tcmcity51

Жыл бұрын

Messi still won that

@internetuser9221

Жыл бұрын

@@tcmcity51 who mentioned messi?

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

@@internetuser9221 tcm city (and plenty of ronaldo fans in other threads too for some reason)

@aldobonaso3481

Жыл бұрын

FIFA WFotY was never the most prestigious award to win, it has always been about the Ballon d'Or...though it has lost its glamour over the last decade or so

@kiddyace

Жыл бұрын

@@aldobonaso3481 you started watching football from 2010, Ballon D'or was tagged European footballer of the year, mate! Non European player only became eligible in '92.

Ronaldo won it with 0 trophies when Ribery won 6 in 2013

That was another high-quality and well-made video that I enjoyed but that is pretty much what I thought - and what most people think - the Ballon d'Or is.

@lukew6725

Жыл бұрын

I am genuinely curious as to what else people think the Ballon d'Or is! 😂

I stopped caring about this award when they refused to give it to Lewandowski in 2020.

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

I think deep down you still care, you after all still watched the video and commented (don't mean to offend)

@toast_master_

Жыл бұрын

@@acacia8261 I just read the news who won it but still don't care.

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

@@toast_master_ i guess that's what caring means, not caring is you not even bothering with it at all (but everybody has their own definition of caring i guess)

@toast_master_

Жыл бұрын

@@acacia8261 I mean it will be all over social media which I can't unlook.

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

@@toast_master_ true, tho like i said you bothered replying even now meaning maybe you still have some level of interest unknowingly

For me, individual awards are nothing more than a novelty. It's a team sport, and the trophies that matter are the real ones, the leagues and cups, not a popularity vote among journos, coaches or players.

@Soccemaniac

Жыл бұрын

Agree and so does Arsene Wenger. In such a complete team sport that’s so dynamic, there’s different connotations attached to what attackers and defenders are. And because it’s so complete, the attackers cant do what they do, without defenders. So individual award seems pointless. However it is great for hype, and that’s in the interest of businesses. And voters do have objective thought, one cant disprove that, they might genuinely be thinking through what makes a player the best, and correspondingly picking the best. It can be a popularity contest to an extent in the sense even those voters can be lulled by subconscious of just who they like

Thank you for the video helped clear a lot of questions I had and also I learned something considering am ignorant about it and always assumed its Journalists that played favorites since journalism in football is so bad starting around 20017 is when I gave up on articles and so

The Ballon d'Or ceased to make any sense when they allowed coaches and captains to vote. First of all, it took away any credibility, as it was originally an award given by experts and became an award decided by fanboys. Those favouring Real Madrid and Portugal would vote for Ronaldo and those favouring Barca and Argentina would vote for Messi. It had to become painfully obvious that they were both in decline until someone else won the award. Secondly, it favours attacking players even more than before, the coaches of Cameroon or Vietnam or Chile don't watch 5-6 games per weekend, as a football journalist does,, to understand what KdB is doing or how crucial Van Dijk was to Liverpool's successes, they watch Messi and Ronaldo highlights on Sunday especially when they scored 40 goals a season in La Liga, no wonder they voted for them. And from now on they will vote for Haaland and Mbappe year in-year out, no matter how their teams are performing. I think football would be served better by following the NFL example in individuals awards. An MVP award (not for the best, for the most valuable), and two further awards, for the BEST attacking player and for the BEST defensive player. Midfielders could be nominated for either award, depending on their role.

The biggest individual award along with the European Golden Shoe imo. It will remain the most sought after individual award for decades.

Most shocking was the Ballon d'or féminine only being introduced in 2018

@NelloPotri-gw6we

7 ай бұрын

There have been always some fishy balloon d'or in the history of Football.

I don't understand why so much importance is given to an award chosen by sports journalists. I liked it better when the winner was chosen by the votes of national team captains and coaches. Although there were some clear favouritisms, in general, it seemed to me a fairer choice

@kidpagronprimsank05

Жыл бұрын

Because they stuck to what they know, which mostly general. Competent football journalist can make better choice imo as they tend to look deeper (note: the word competent is very important.)

@konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

Жыл бұрын

Because most footballers are stupid

@DonKappa1

Жыл бұрын

@@kidpagronprimsank05 competent is a very important word here 😅 there are lots of journalists with heavy bias and agenda. I think as long as there is greed and envy in people we will never see an unbiased result - although sometimes the „objectively best player“ won that award in the past (thanks to a larger pool of journalistic votes)

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

It's because of history, same reason why man utd is still more famous than man city even tho clearly man city is better now

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

@@DonKappa1 being objective is impossible with ballon dor, even if you use statistics to be as objective as possible, you would still have to pick which statistics matters more

we need a data-based award that is fair for all players playing different position

Nice to see Nigel Winterburn getting a shout on the ballot. Would have been a well deserved winner

Shout out to Gabriel Hanot, sounds like quite a fellow👏

I'd never noticed that the award is a golden ball on top of some rubble. Is that meant to represent what the player has done to the opposition?

@michaelconroy5668

Жыл бұрын

Balon d’or is French for Golden Ball. The rubble is diamonds I believe.

Popularity award, Miss Universe of football. 😂😂😂

@javiermagana6364

Жыл бұрын

Which award do you think most represents the best player for that year?

Sneijder, Gigi, Neuer, Xavi, Iniesta - Footballers who should have been given a Ballon d'Or

@jasondoorstam6259

Жыл бұрын

Henry

@dumbdumber7203

Жыл бұрын

Xavi and Iniesta are overrated. Not even close to Modric. As soon as he has 7, then they can share one.

@aerajkamran

Жыл бұрын

@@dumbdumber7203 You're funny

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

They didn't win because of Messi and Ronaldinho.

@nickcorleone8709

Жыл бұрын

Lewandowski too

class reporting as always

It's called "Balon D Messi&Ronaldo sir.🗣

how is Ronaldo the first non european winner if Di stefano is Argentinian

@manwithnoname8229

Жыл бұрын

Di Stefano was Argentine born. He was Spanish.

@gaston6800

Жыл бұрын

@@manwithnoname8229 He nationalized later in life. He was Argentine, therefore South American.

"Blackpool Rovers" class as always from Joe

@dionstones5852

Жыл бұрын

What are point are you trying to make here?

@dominicgolding3529

Жыл бұрын

I think he is trying to say why not let someone who knows about football to read the script, anyone who does would've said to the producer, you need to take the Rovers out of the script bro

It's an award to whoever is most popular at Real and Barca. People used to claim it was for the best player on a CL winning team until Liverpool won in 2019

@arionasani2350

Жыл бұрын

Yeah your just speaking the truth.

@boatymcboatyface

Жыл бұрын

Van Dijk should have won that year

@devjhawar9372

Жыл бұрын

@@boatymcboatyface NO WAY BRO.. MESSI THAT YEAR. GOLDEN BOOT PLAYMAKER AWARD LALIGA TOP SCORER ASSISTER UCL TOP SCORER ASSISTER MOST MOTM IN UCL UCL GOAL OF THE SEASON LAUREUS AWARD PICHICHI PROBABLY THE GREATEST EVER SEASON FOR A PLAYER. AND AFTERALL BALONDOR IS A INDIVIDUAL AWARD.

@omariscoming4463

Жыл бұрын

@@devjhawar9372 messi is a fraud

Di Stefano was argentinian. wasn´t him the first southamerican to win the Ballon d'or?

@marcusloughman5013

Жыл бұрын

I think he had Spanish citizenship or something, which made him eligible. I could be wrong tho.

@iuri9161

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusloughman5013 yep

@souvanikmajhi2945

Жыл бұрын

He won it as a Spanish......

Due to the lack of quality journalists, this award has lost its meaning. Maybe when we got top quality journalism like we get at tifo, we’ll take it more seriously

@hb3393

Жыл бұрын

Tifo football awards are way better. Can't wait to see who is the dribbliest boi this year

@NelloPotri-gw6we

7 ай бұрын

It is not true, there have always been fishy balloon d'ors in the history of football. Some are very well deserved and others just fishy.

@xCDHx

7 ай бұрын

if you're talking about 2000 & 2003 ballon d'or I agree too. But the biggest inconsistency was between 2010-2023@@NelloPotri-gw6we

@NelloPotri-gw6we

7 ай бұрын

@xCDHx The most fishy balloon d'or it was in 1963. Rivera that year won the Champions giving a lesson of Football to the great Eusebio. Well, instead they gave the prize to a keeper who was playing in the penguin league in Soviet Union. Of course there are others but 1963 is unbeatable.

I like how inclusive your channel is not only are you talking about English footballers but you're talking about African and female footballers

Ballon d'or or for the most part AKA "who's the best striker'

And now Messi is about to win his deserved 8th Ballon D'or for his superb world cup campaign and his belter of a ongoing PSG season!

@najibb5405

Жыл бұрын

he only deserves 6

@reiXku

Жыл бұрын

and a super ballon d'or as well

A video on Marcelo Gallardo will be very interesting

Make a video about the South American Championship of Clubs of 1948, the first continental tournament of clubs ever.

I am still waiting for the “not what people think” part after watching the video.

Will you be doing a WC team by team preview?

A individualistic award for a team sport just simply doesn't makes sense

If this award was only and only by the individual perfomance, Messi should have had every Ballon D'or

@txeazy

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@yankeewz8377

Жыл бұрын

You're right Because no one has outfootballed Messi in any year during his prime. However people have had better seasons tho in terms of trophies or may be even goals.

@potatosenpai9301

4 ай бұрын

Are you sure? Milito,muller, Neuer, Lewandowski,drogba, Robben have had one of the best seasons and you say this? 💀 Even Ronaldo lmao

@FREAKIE90

4 ай бұрын

@@potatosenpai9301 go be deluded somewhere else man

Me: Is it an interdimensional being that it requires care and attention from the world's most elite footballer to quell its insatiable appetite for planetary destruction?! After watching the video: Oh.

Actually Football before 2000s were entirely different from what we think, Europe started dominating Football after they earned broadcasting rights in many countries.European were not good as South Americans, Europeans had more money that's all, even in terms of World Cup wins, the first time Europe overtake South America was after Spain's 2010 World Cup victory.

@Johndoe-gf7eu

Жыл бұрын

The only time South Americans were dominant was in the stone age lol, 1950s and 60s 😂in modern football, europe have dominated. Brazil haven’t won world cup since 2002 😂

@akhilmachaan5010

Жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu South America dominated Football until 2006, new born babies are news fed by low level English medias who have no idea about Football outside England.

@akhilmachaan5010

Жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu When Brazil won 2002 World Cup, South Americans won 9 out of 17 World Cups conducted, with brazil only nation to participate in all world cups.

@acacia8261

Жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu he never implied otherwise tho

@akhilmachaan5010

Жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu Europe is just a market where South Americans, Africans etc trade their Football ability.Europe win trophies with South Americans and Africans.But South Americans win with their own Talentss.

Individual awards are always stupid in a team game. But coming from French football it is of course even more stupid.

Joe's voice is the best 🔥🔥🔥

I get the “is not what you think” is added to get some more clicks but that is exactly what most football fans think the Ballon D’or is

Weird that is exactly what I thought the ballondor was

I dont believe in awards, when you make two or more persons to choose between something, the decision will at some point not be influenced by merit but by a range of diverse factors like sentiments, propaganda, agenda, sensationalism, inclusive bias, etc. That's not just a popularity contest, that's the premise for politics.

I always felt it was a competition between ronaldo and messi (they are the best in the generation) regardless whether they were the best players in a year.

You should have compared it to the Grammys and Oscars for the sake of the viewers who think this channel should be named Tifo-soccer. 😂😂😂😂😂

@adhnaanahmed5029

Жыл бұрын

Americans triggered

The award is a bit BS because before the Bosman ruling south American football was equal or superior vs Europe. So the criteria of having to play in Europe to win it made no sense. Even worse, you were not elegible if you weren't European before 1995 for some reason... Take this example: Oleg blocking? Please... In the 70s there were better players a dime a dozen in south America.

The script writer who made Joe say 'Blackpool Rovers' needs a gentle kicking. Seb, was that you?

Didn't know Nigel Winterburn came so close to winning the Ballon d'Or.

George Weah first non-European, excluding the Argentines Alfredo Di Stefano and Omar Sivori

Messi and Cr7 made this award important. Everybody else before them didn't give this award much importance. Nobody even talked about it. Their sponsors Adidas, Pepsi,Nike, co co cola made it important for marketing. I don't care who wins the ballon d'or. I care about world cup, euro, Copa, UCL and then the respective league trophies.

Sorry!? "Stanley Matthews, then of Blackpool 'Rovers'!?". Shoddy that...

Individual awards in team sports should just... Not exist.

@mattg5878

Жыл бұрын

No Man of the Match then?

@emilbovbjerg

Жыл бұрын

@@mattg5878 No

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

@@mattg5878 The Ballon'dor is basically man of the match for the entire year.

@genjishimada6303

Жыл бұрын

beg to differ. Messi has single handedly destroyed entire teams day after day just because he existed. How could you not give him an award ?

@emilbovbjerg

Жыл бұрын

@@genjishimada6303 That happens sometimes. But most of the time it's not that clear cut.

This was very similar to what I thought the Ballon d'Or was, even if I did not know the exact details. I think the same is true for most people?

@bryantndongmo4780

Жыл бұрын

Clickbait

@bungaIowbill

Жыл бұрын

@@bryantndongmo4780 Yeah, I think they are trending in that direction. "Tifo Werner misses again 🤣 Pifo is finished🤡, Penaldo better" etc

I THINK ONCE U GET THE TITLE.. U ARE OUT FROM THE LIST.. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE FRESH WINNER

The criteria for the Ballon d'Or changes every year.

I disacree with the creation of the Yashin trophee. It means that, considering they'll have their own prize, goalkeepers will therefore be excluded from winning the Ballon d'Or. I guess they'll do the same for defenders and midfielders, and so the greatest prize will follow its natural course of only include forwards.

I think we can all agree that Nigel Winterburn was robbed when it came to his close call in winning the prestigious award

@charlesray9674

Жыл бұрын

I always believed that. If he had won, it would have been great for his self-confidence and self-esteem 😔

Popularity is the lowest swaying thing that makes you win goals assists and titles are worth way more and wlsway decisions much more

If yashin won , so could another GK. It was said that if Juventus beat Madrid in the final Buffon would of won it.

I'm pleasantly surprised to hear they've included national team coaches and captains to help even the vote. Journalists have can have bias, but players, coaches, they have a bias that is based in experience, 1-1 comparison, and an appreciation for those they play and compete with and against yearly, if not more. Really gives winning the award more merit.

@szymm91

Жыл бұрын

Actually made things worse because it includes countries that barely have any knowledge of football overseas. Captains in places like the Pacific Islands have admitted they basically just chose Messi/Ronaldo because they'd heard of them

@charlesray9674

Жыл бұрын

@@szymm91 Glad they dropped that since they introduced female players. I would be looking forward to seeing Mia Hamm winning a few awards

@mjmulenga3

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't really help. Players have their own biases and team loyalties. Cristiano Ronaldo for example has never voted for Messi, and Messi has only picked Ronaldo a couple of times.

@PizzaRollz1

Жыл бұрын

@@mjmulenga3 And journalists don't have bias? Everyone has some bias

Award for who has the best PR team

1:12 If he helped set up Ligue 1, then surely he was a farmer and not a journalist? 😂😂🤣🤣 🚜 🚜 🚜

@sifisonxumalo7032

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

The Ballon d’Or is pretty much a party for Lionel Messi and some VIP guests.

@Weweta

2 ай бұрын

No lol

An award decided mostly by journalists.. who cares anymore. Even in the 90s & 00s, they made odd picks (Sammer, Owen, Figo) before not giving one to Henry (over Shevchenko or Nedved) or later on snubbing Lewandowski.

@kidpagronprimsank05

Жыл бұрын

Nedved deserve it though. He was basically heart of that Juve team that reached UCL final, actually his absence IMO boost his rating further given how dull that final was. Also, w/o any major international competitions, UCL that year would basically decided the winner

@charlesray9674

Жыл бұрын

Nigel had the best season over Messi &Ronaldo combined. 😔

So essentially you talked about how they don't follow a set of rules, how people that have no ball knowledge vote, but not once you mentioned how corrupt and biased it is smh

Another masterclass from Tifo!

Well, R9 isn't the first South America winner, it's di Stefano (although with Spanish citizenship)

@hypernovaorcus

Жыл бұрын

R9 is the first South American winner by nationality then. Di Stefano would be the first by heritage.

@Diogo20PT

Жыл бұрын

The same can be said about Eusébio, he was from Mozambique but at that time that country was a Portuguese colony making him a Portuguese player.

So basically it is exactly what People think.

The year after Roy Race won playing for Melchester.

Yep. People think it's a trophy for dropping 0/10 performances against San Marino and thus are screaming Lewandowski deserved it.

To conclude: the Ballon d'Or is what I thought it was.

This is exactly what I thought the Ballon d'Or is.

Defenders and goalkeepers hardly get a look in. Also Stanley Matthews of Blackpool Rovers?

It's funny how we french have invented so many things in sports. In Football we invented the world cup, the Euro, the european cup, ballon d'or, even FIFA, and more, but couldn't develop our own league to be at least level with Spain, Italy, Germany and England. With the players we have and the fact that the majority of west africans go in Europpe through France, we could have been the best league. A bit sad. At least we win with the national team

It should be mentioned that Pelé and Maradona were never allowed to participate in it Hence it only became a truly global award in 1995

Who should become the new Columbus Crew head coach!?!? oh mighty tifo!!

Why is it called the Ballon d'Or in English? The World Cup is also founded and organized by a French institution but we don't refer to as the "Coupe du Monde" in English.

@Simmer1983

Жыл бұрын

Probably because it sounds better than Golden Ball.

@gaston6800

Жыл бұрын

You're acting like almost a third of English words aren't already of French origin or just plain French words. English still doesn't even have an English word for coup d'etat, for example.

Blackpool Rovers? did I miss something 😁

for me it lost all credibility when modric won it for playing 7 good games

@sirtakue

Жыл бұрын

Because you did not watch him lead Croatia to their first ever World Cup final and you still do not understand the impact of the guy in Real Madrid's midfield.

@frankunodostres473

Жыл бұрын

@@sirtakue I did. World cup is 7 games. It was one of his less remarkable seasons for RM.

Dude was the original Fabrizio Romano

Do we even in this in a team sport?

Damn I never heard of Hanaut

It's just a popularity contest and a joke now. You'd have a journalist from the 100th ranked nation in the world cast some very strange votes would go on to determine the winner(such as in the 2021 edition)