USA’s NEW Fastest Railway ($12BN)
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Brightline is building a 12 billion dollar high-speed railway between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Since the 1960’s, the United States has tried to develop high-speed railways. For decades, nothing materialized. Then, in 2008, California high-speed rail launched, promising revolutionary rail service between Los Angeles and San Francisco. However, over 15 years later and the project has been plagued by land acquisition issues, cost overruns and a lack of funding. For a while, it seemed high-speed rail may not work in the US. Then, in Florida, a company called Brightline successfully built the country’s first privately operated intercity railway. They are now expanding and have begun construction on Brightline West, the USA’s first high-speed railway between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. With a max speed of 190 miles per hour, it will cut the travel time between the two cities from 4 hours to only 2 hours and ten minutes. Construction is starting in 2024, with an expected opening date in 2028!
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@fuqupal
Ай бұрын
Europe and Asia goes: LOL! n00bs!
Just to interject, the California High Speed rail line is still being built. It's not dead.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Exactly, and is the first HSR line in the USA, not BLW.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
And Acela is technically high-speed rail
@vitasoy1437
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581It is hard to say which one will complete first, but both will be game changers for CA and the US (after brightline FL of course!)!
@Mister8224
14 күн бұрын
@@vitasoy1437As you must know Florida Brightline ain't going so well. Ridership is cratering, forcing them to look for operating revenue(more taxes), after they promised it would be self-sustaining. Absolutely no reason it would be any different in CA. Boondoggle money pit.
@reminaya
14 күн бұрын
@@Mister8224nailing it. A scam of epic proportions. The Browndogle!
This is a great project but I hope it gets double tracked one day in order to run trains more frequently to keep up with demand
@entized5671
Ай бұрын
double tracking means removing highway lanes so I agree
@stickynorth
Ай бұрын
Even with it PARTIALLY doubled tracked (large slow passing sections are designed into this existing project 4-5 I believe) they should be able to do frequencies as often as every half hour on the existing line which could be doubled if you do the European/Japanese thing and lock two trains together... Or keep adding interior section cars since I believe you can in theory make trains as long as 16 cars with the existing 25kv/60hz power that they are planning on using... Trains can seat up to 1200 people in those cases...
@f-86zoomer37
Ай бұрын
@@entized5671removing highway lanes, thereby causing more congestion and more traffic for the rest of us, all for a train nobody is gonna take? (It doesn’t connect either city directly, but ends miles away from city centers). Yet another high speed rail boondoggle. I’ll take my car or my flight, and so will everyone else.
@valentinschwegler165
Ай бұрын
@@f-86zoomer37its okay not everyone hates our planet. Also be happy because it will ease congestion for people who still choose the slower option
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
@@stickynorthIt's not just frequency but total average speed is dimished with single tracking. The 210 mile route should be done in 1:30, not 2:10. That's only an average speed of around 100 mph. That's not impressive for a new HSR train.
Single tracked is a bummer. Having the stations not central means getting a commuter train on the LA side and a taxi on the Vegas side, so driving will still be a fast door-to-door
@ZvonimirZelenika
Ай бұрын
When You exactly know the number of trains operating You can get it to work with single-track (there is an example of Bothnia Line in Sweden). Also to increase capacity You can first make trains longer while still keeping to same frequency of 1tph. Also, this is a MVP (Minimum Viable Product), I do expect the extension to Union Station with electrification of the IEOC line (similar to what is happening in SF with Caltrain to Gilroy) and then a connection via High Desert to CAHSR (who knows, maybe it will be Brightline building the High Desert Corridor HSR and maybe the whole CAHSR). But they need to start with something functional like they did in Florida and then expand.
@StreamSched
Ай бұрын
Vegas side will have shuttle service and the underground Vegas Loop will have a stop there
@kirkrotger9208
Ай бұрын
@@StreamSchedThe Vegas Loop is completely worthless.
@nlpnt
Ай бұрын
@@kirkrotger9208 Not *completely*, it gives Elon a source of nearly-new "program cars" for Tesla dealerships.
@theventuracountyrailfan
Ай бұрын
Do you live in this region
Welcome to the 21st century, America
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
CAHSR already did that.
this is probably one of the few railway systems that i actually look forward to seeing
@user-zu3md5qz8y
17 күн бұрын
nothing happening now
Ranch Cucamonga is not Los Angeles. With all the bureaucracy, we will probably won’t see it truly go all the way to L.A for another 100 years.
@jorgedominguez7259
11 күн бұрын
It doesn’t need to. The metrolink is more than enough to get you to down town la. Rancho is a perfect middle spot
High Speed Railway is the future of mass transportation. All over europe, china Japan, Russia has High Speed Railway. The best railway network from europe has Switzerland, thats the reason that so many people go to work by train and not by car. But needs more then Highspeed Train also the local public transportion has to be connected. Its cheaper to go work by train then by car. Thats only one exemple.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Los Angeles and San Francisco have extensive local rail transit infrastructure.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581As well as San Diego....
@roger5059
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581for american standards, yes
@zo62
25 күн бұрын
It was the past
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
25 күн бұрын
@@zo62 And now we've gone BACK TO THE FUTURE.
Indonesia has high speed rail with maximum speed 350 km/h.
less wear and tear than cars, sounds worth it to me
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
Not only that, but less transportation fuel consumption per unit of distance. The airlines are DEATHLY AFRAID of this HSR line becoming a reality; the fear stemming from a soon-to-be-enacted ban on ALL airline flights of 500 miles or less. The automotive industry is also DEATHLY AFRAID of a future sudden drop in sales, and the energy corporations are DEATHLY AFRAID of their power base crumbling, due to reduced demand for THEIR fuels.... With a NATIONWIDE HSR SYSTEM, the entire country can save not only several trillions of dollars, but a helluva lot of future suffering, pertaining to the environment in which we must all live!!
The California speed rail will be faster given the fact that more amount of the tract will allow faster speeds for a longer period of time. The bright line west will be slower as it’s going to the cheaper and slower route.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Very true. And the CAHSR will also have pass through tracks at various stations to possibly provide express service where it wouldn't stop at all the stations.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
And also they are not single tracking CAHSR and it’s over a much longer route, hence a lot of the higher costs but also the higher speeds
let's it is successful as America needs a high-speed rail network
This why i love when cities host huge events sich as the Olympics. It forces cities to come up with something quick and to built fast. Other thwn that, this project would DEFINITELY not be built in 4 years and instead would be built in 10-15 years.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
The Olympics have absolutely NOTHING to do with the timeline of this project. It's propaganda. Why? Because this train ENDS in Ranch Cucamonga, not Los Angeles!
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581And what about the propaganda it took to force several thousand Americans to forfeit their private properties to provide a right-of-way for some damned "Hitler strip" to traverse through the most expensive and valuable urban areas in our nation?! Because of the automotive industry and energy corporations, these stuperhighways continue to cost EVERYONE, regardless of vehicle ownership or not, to dig deep into their wallets to fund wasteful and inefficient swaths of concrete which not only haven't collected so much as a single red cent in tolls, but also NEVER generated a red cent's worth of taxes, despite the amount of land they consume!
That is alot of imperial system and the metric system going back and forth, be nice if both systems are seen or said in the video, so everyone in the world knows and understands.
I hope it does work I would like to take a ride on one of those trains in the future.
I’m cautiously optimistic for this project. The single track issue hopefully won’t turn out to be much of an issue, but it’s still disappointing. The bigger issue for me is the line terminating in Rancho Cucamonga instead of Union Station. I think this could be a major impediment to achieving max ridership, especially for people who don’t live in or are visiting the inland empire.
@Ven100
27 күн бұрын
The Metrolink line will be receiving upgrades so this really won't be a big deal.
I don't get why they're building that station so far south in Las Vegas. There's a rail line that goes right behind the Rio and right up behind the Trump hotel. Put the station closer to the strip!
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Because they would have to buy the ROW and surrounding land to do that. It costs too much for them. They want to build it on the cheap even if it results in degraded service. They're not buying the vast majority of the ROW on the 15. They're leasing it.
@Ven100
Ай бұрын
What you consider to be empty/ "so far south" will soon become a hotspot when all the development happens. They're already planning mix-used neighborhoods around the stations. Have vision people. Not to mention the multitudes of services that will take people from the station to the strip. Let's stop pretending the station is 30 miles outside of Vegas.
@CarBuddy10
11 күн бұрын
That rail line has tight bends south of the city, and no good place to connect it anywhere north of the bend. It wouldn't fit. They might be better off having it follow I-15 and then cross to Vegas Boulevard somewhere after the famed Welcome sign
I dont think there are any single track HSR in China, Europe or Japan 😂
@asetiawan73
Ай бұрын
Same here in Indonesia is double track and can reach 350kmh
@Hastdupech8509
Ай бұрын
Yeah that's an accident waiting to happen. That's why these infrastructural projects get built by the State, privates value revenues over safety
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
@@Hastdupech8509Exactly, and built it on the cheap even if it results in degraded service. Why? Because it's about profit, not service.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581"For profit, not service"; Sounds like the airlines, especially given the fact that they virtually stay airborne on governmental oversubsidization....
@Ven100
Ай бұрын
You should do your research. Spain has implemented single-track on its HSR network. It's like some of you have never heard of computer modeling or proper headway scheduling. 😏
I always want California High-Speed Rail in California and Brightline West and I always love California High-Speed Rail in California and Brightline West.😮
In order for this to be a success, they need to AT LEAST electrify the Metrolink from Rancho into LA, ideally before opening. If they can take INTO LA direct, A LOT more Vegas residents (like myself), would use it more often. If it happens after fine, but it'd miss out showing out during the Olympics... if it's ready by then.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Their CEO has already stated that a direct connection to Union Station is not happening.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@BIGJATPSU Not only do they need to electrify, but also grade separate virtually the entire distance between San Bernardino and Los Angeles. Double-tracking is also in order.
@BIGJATPSU
Ай бұрын
@@user-dj7wv5ok2x while that would be great, I believe that is why the "estimated" cost is so low in conjunction with using free right of way from the Feds mostly. Perhaps one day if the line proves worthwhile that can be done and then spliced in so as not to disrupt the service much.
@BIGJATPSU
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581 true, but it NEEDS to. CHSR should just sell them their rights of way while agreeing the systems will connect.... eventually.
$12 billion but STILL slower than any other high speed trains in the world such as those in China, Japan, or Europe. And it has been in the works for 30 years now!
@Ven100
4 күн бұрын
Wrong. The 100-119 MPH average speed for Brightline West will be higher than the average speed of HSR routes such as Frankfurt to Berlin or Brussels to Amsterdam.
@andyhughes1776
4 күн бұрын
@@Ven100 China and Japan have faster trains then.
I have some feedback living in one of the city's that will have a station. Yes, it's appropriately 3:40 to Vegas from Rancho (no stops to pee, for food, drinks, gas, etc) late morning on a Wednesday with not a lick of traffic. Often "the Pass" has 20 to 60 minute slow downs during regular commuting hours and without any major accidents, can be an additional 2 hours to Vegas or more if it's a holiday weekend or there is a special event. The same goes for the travel time with the Metrolink. Also, commuters here locally are ecstatic because this will reduce accidents in the pass by taking additional cars off the road. That corridor of the I-15 is considered one of the most dangerous in the country and this train will help resolve that by taking a good bit of the travel traffic off the roads. There are people that do the commute from the Apple Valley/Hesperia area (High Desert region) to Las Vegas as well and it will help them too. Looking at strictly LVconvis, roughly 1/3 of the 43M annual visitors come from So Cal. Which would mean 26.4 one way trips. This doesn't account for commuters or people traveling to McClaren Airport (which we often do). Thank you though for not confusing this projwxt with California's HighSpeed Rail authors project which has been riddled with delays due to right of way issues but mostly corruption (like the politician's family's company won the bid. Look it up). The other thing to note is that this project will likely not be hundreds of dollars per ticket that was a large news firm misquoted the representing from the company.
@Marcus-xn5tb
Ай бұрын
Hm. I thought I've seen a video where some important dude said it'll be $400 round trip which is way too high.
@irenejewelrygirl-premierde3086
Ай бұрын
@Marcus-xn5tb he said, to recoup costs quickly. He was misquoted and they keep doing snippet videos. They came to our local chamber of commerce to speak.
@Marcus-xn5tb
Ай бұрын
@@irenejewelrygirl-premierde3086 "... to recoup costs quickly..." That's a yes...
@irenejewelrygirl-premierde3086
Ай бұрын
@Marcus-xn5tb he's also not an idiot of a business man. If a company of a service isn't getting sales, they lower their prices.
5:45 - MAKE IT ONE HOUR 😎
Which bullet train come in this route
All hot air. I'm not holding my breath.
I hope that bright line is successful for decades to come.
Uber should sponsor such a project. Less people will reach these cities with their own cars.
You made a video some months ago with the new Nile Delta. Sense then the Egyptian Goverment has made a new project about the Qattara Depression. Maybe that could the topic of a future video? :) Also the Space Stations could be interesting to cover. :D
why is your audio/mic so low on this video
Las Vegas should build subway from BL Station along LV blvd for more convenience.
2:05 Not sure where 230 mph is coming from... Brightline in Florida travels at a max speed of 125 mph. Globally the threshold for what is considered "high-speed rail" is 155 mph (250 kph). I can't wait to ride this train!
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
The average speed will be around 100 mph on this train. That's very disappointing if the top speed is around 186 mph.
@SoCalHighIron
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581 Average speed is definitely more important than top speed. CAHSR is going to blow it away in terms of average speed.
@giacomogiordano7348
Ай бұрын
I think 230 is for the train max speed, not the operational speed
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
Video said 230kph not mph
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
@@giacomogiordano7348and it’s in kph for the current brightline route in FL. 230kph is ~140mph which Brightline only really reaches on the way to the Orlando airport
I always want California High-Speed Rail in California and I always love California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
Yes and yeah of course California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
Good News that USA is building High spped Bullet train, our India is also developing 250 kmph speed Bullet train,
Rancho Cucamonga is not LA, It's San Bernadino County,
America’s 2nd high-speed rail. The 1st is Amtrak’s Acela
@rchambers6858
Ай бұрын
Acela isn’t even technically high speed rail according to most industry standards. It reaches a top speed of 150 mph (and this is only for short stretches) while the typical speed cited as being “true” high speed is 155 mph. For America’s standards, it’s pretty good, but compared to countries like Japan, Spain, France, Germany, and some others it’s actually not that impressive!
@rppacademic
Ай бұрын
What? You call that hsr? Because it runs at highspeed for a few miles? Think again.
Rancho Cucamonga is not LA, If there is traffic it will take you more than an hour to get there from LA. So the trip is not 2 hour, more like 3+ hours point to point.
Hope they have cheap long term parking for it
Great video! The risk of building a single train in the USA is the lacking interconnectedness. They need a China-scale investment and tons of lines to ripe the benefits.
3:13 first ? Are you sure ?
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Yeah, no, that would be CAHSR.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
lol everyone pretends Acela doesn’t exist
@alancampos8906
Ай бұрын
@@kyrieelite right! And they already got a Bright line train in Florida and the California high speed rail will finalize soon.
Vagus looking for a new influx of gamblers
I can assure you that in 🇨🇦 a similar project would cost at least 30BN 😅
@stickynorth
Ай бұрын
WRONG! Even the Ellis Don Prairie Link planned for Edmonton to Calgary at the same distance of 200 miles or 320 km or so is planned to cost $9.6B... And that's for a greenfield double-track electric line running at 400 km/h the highest speed possible...
@stickynorth
Ай бұрын
And that's CAD...
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
BLW will cost much more than 12B and take longer to finish.
I fear that without a direct connection to downtown LA and downtown Las Vegas it won't work. Hopefully it can be expanded in the future but investors need to be aware that there won't be an immediate ROI on this first stage.
Can you make a video about the Francis Scott Scott Key bridge in Baltimore Maryland or that I 95 bridge collapsed in Norwalk Connecticut
@passatboi
Ай бұрын
It was in Philadelphia, PA
@IamLegendaryguy1998
Ай бұрын
@@passatboi that was last year in Philly The one in Connecticut is this year
@passatboi
Ай бұрын
@@IamLegendaryguy1998 Geez. I didn't hear about a collapse in CT. I'll have to Google it.
High speed rail needs to be a thing for strategic parts of the US. I think its too far fetched to have a national US high speed line at this point but I think if we can see mini projects be successful it will draw more funding and interesting in states to invest in high speed rail.
between RanCh0 CucAMoNgA and Vegas
Lets see if the crooked politicians and bureaucrats can keep their hands out of the build money.
I for one this this railway will be a model for high(er) speed rail in North America for several reasons... By using existing public Interstate ROW you don't have to battle/pay off private land owners who could drag out the project in court for decades and by keeping to a slightly slower overall running speed you also save on engineering costs while still offering competitive travel times. Even with a single electrified track WITH DOUBLE-TRACK PASSING SECTIONS as is designed you could easily offer services each way every 30 minutes without having to fully double-track the line.. And for more capacity? Just keep adding cars.. TGV's and Shinkansen's running on the same power grid can handle up to 16 cars with seating for over 1200 people per train which is amazing to think about! My only other advice? Offer a budget train option on the same line for people who think the ticket price is too high... In Europe? Ouigo offers the same speed of service on its fastest lines but with higher density-budget seating offering... Like a Southwest/Spirit Airlines but on rails... For those who only want to pay $10 AND watch a fight over $4 soda's it will be fantastic... Dinner and a show on the way to Vegas! Double your entertainment value, folks!
This video is wrong on a lot of the information given. It takes close to 5-6 hours from LA TO VEGAS.
3:28 why only a single track? is it safe enough?
@triplethreatpodcasts
Ай бұрын
Yes, there are signals. Single track is surprisingly common
@ddddirge
Ай бұрын
Single track so that they finished sooner Maybe they'll add second track in the future
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Probably not safe especially in the middle of a highway. It hasn't been done anywhere else in the world.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
To cut costs and not room for double tracking in the highway median all the way. In the long term, the highway median should be widened to allow for double tracking
@triplethreatpodcasts
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581 Rail in highway medians is remarkably common from subways, light rail, commuter rai, and Amtrak. The US has the strictest safety laws which is why there are walls making it an isolated corridor. Here's from their engineering study "The Project would construct a raised access road on the east side of I-15, an elevated railway with retaining walls in the I-15 median". Single tracking is common around the world, Spain even made a single tracked highspeed rail line. This project has imported the safest technology from around the world including the signaling system, the same used on the single tracked HSR line in Spain. It does exist and it is proven to be safe.
Better work more efficiently than the Orlando to Miami service. Late running trains, numerous fatalities, rude staff and indifferent customer service.
@stevefox898
21 күн бұрын
@@cr77702 You are not looking hard enough. Try reading negative posts on Tripadvisor.
It has bee said of free enterprise cultures that companies will often go where governments dare not. This is the best example you will see. Brightline is leading the U.S. in to a passenger future by all this huge and daring investments,
We were on the lead during the late 1800s then everything slowed down
And to this day we don't ride rail with
This country is very very far behind in the Rail transport business for one thing its very expensive to go anywhere and it usually takes forever , I was in Norway and you can get just about anywhere by train and most places have high speed trains also it doesn't cost an arm and leg to travel.
I'm not excited about this destination cause I think it should stretch longer maybe from northern California to los Angeles to las vegas
America has been had a high speed trainset, the amtrak acela but it was never able to run full speed as the territory it runs in is 100 yr old plus infrastructure that was never improved causing the train go only arlund 90-125 mph, but hopefully brighline can save us all, there doijg good in Florida so inhave a good feeling, kinda hope BR west can use a variant of the SCB-40 chargers cuz ion like that new trainset 😂😂
A privatized endeavor, So you know the ticket prices are going to be expensive. Not having a highly efficient national transportation grid / network, that stretches from coast to coast, Should be a national security concern. Can't expect the air force to transport all of the men, materials and machines during wartime.
@aaryankumar8770
Ай бұрын
The US doesn't have good passenger rail service But there is a good freight network 😅
@Vyvyan_Bastard
Ай бұрын
American trains are always an ungodly sight, With plenty of graffiti.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
For ALL the troubles mentioned, the automotive and airline industries, and the energy corporations, should be blamed. They lobbied a gullible, moronic congress for funding of THEIR pet projects, most of which are wasteful and inefficient, expensive t'boot!
BrightLine West and Texas High-Speed Rail are where my hopes are. If both of these or even just one can prove to the American people and our elected leaders that Highspeed rail is worth investing in then we could be on the precipice of a monumental high-speed rail building effort soon. All THSR needs are two more approvals(which should come sometime next year) and they can begin construction. They already have 30% of the land needed, they have the power of eminent domain, the backing of Amtrak, plus funding for the remainder of the project should be relatively simple to come by if they use the BrightLine model. Amtrak says THSR could be ready by 2030, just two years after BrightLine West and around the same time as California High-Speed Rail. If all three can be joined together then a a Highspeed rail revolution in America is certain!
It will cost an arm and a leg 😱
One track is sufficient to last vegas look the time and money not so bright line would save
It's worth noting that distances had nothing to do with holding back high speed rail projects (Let's be fair, if distance was really a concern, the Transcontinental Railroad would never have happened). Competition with cars and planes were initially a factor, but with rail travel making a resurgence, the primary factor holding these projects back is NIMBY and people constantly taking these projects to court in order to make it too expensive for the projects to keep going EVEN IF THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO FUND AND FULLY COMPLETE THEM.
That ticket price is simply far too high. They should add a gambling car that kicks on as soon as you cross the border to supplement ticket prices. High Desert folks won't pay more than 100 for this
Looks like a money dispenser for the tax, inflate and spend policy
If this was China, the rail line would have finished before the 2026 world cup.
Two things the video didn't address but should have... The stop at Rancho C. is only TEMPORARY as the train is planned to go fully downtown ONCE Metrolink electrifies the joint corridor OR the California HSR Phase 2 gets approved or partially built, this will allow trains to hit Union Station again at relatively high speeds... And secondly, The Inland Empire of Ontario/San Bernardino is the fastest growing part of California where as Los Angeles itself is losing people at a record pace. Where to? The High Desert cities of Lancaster and Palmdale and of course the aforementioned I.E. so really the need to get downtown is a lot smaller than people actually think. There's another video that breaks down where the closest airport is to where people actually live and the traditional West side/Hollywood area actually has the 3rd smallest population now because of astronomical growth in I.E, San Fernando Valley i.e. out to Santa Clarita and of course The O.C. which went from provincial Republican backwater mercilessly mocked on The O.C. to becoming a very mixed race, mixed income, mixed politically region that is a nice alternative to L.A. itself... Even with its own streetcar system and soon to be improved LRT link to the rest of the region again via the abandoned and revived old Pacific Electric railway line...
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
The electrification of Metrolink will not impact BLW. The CEO has akready said that a direct Union Station connection is not happening any time soon. Their plan is to connect to CAHSR via the possible desert rail line connection mentioned in this video. LA County is the most populated in the country. It's equivalent to all the other counties, you listed, combined.
The US needs more high speed trains. Oil companies Exxon -Mobile, Shell, BP, Marathon, and more is afraid of high speed trains. The US will never catch up with the number of tracks that China has.
Construction has not begun Ground Breaking is not construction They are way behind schedule for making there deadline
I am glad to se the US is finally starting to see the light. It terms of transportation the US feels like a third world country compared to Europe, Japan and China.
Point of clarification, the CAHSR is the FIRST HSR route in the USA to be built. It's the CAHSR that started the HSR interest in the USA. Make no mistake the CAHSR will be the preeminent HSR route in the USA when the first 171 mile section is completed in 2030. It will be fully double tracked on a new completely grade separated ROW capable of reaching speeds of 220 mph for significant portions of the route unlike BLW's single tracked route built on the cheap to save money at the cost of better train service.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
Amtrak’s Acela is the first that was built, CAHSR is the first 200mph line to have begun construction.
@Ven100
Ай бұрын
@@kyrieelite And Brightline will be the first 200 MPH train in operation.
This train will only benefit high desert residents mostly
but why the fuck is it one way
This is not HSR!🤦🏾♂️
not impressed. if it's under 1 hour then I'd consider it.
There's always the potential that Brightline West could be extended into the city centre to the CaHSR station.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
No, there isn't. The CEO already said as much in a interview.
@commuterjack
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581 Oh... sad
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@@commuterjackSoon to change! The state HSR system will be extended and expanded once it goes into operation. If this seems expensive, look at the almost TRILLION DOLLARS now wasted on these "Hitler strips" that blanket the entire nation in ribbons of inefficient concrete which ruin and destroy our cities, remove hundreds of acres of valuable real estate from the tax rolls, add to environmental pollution of all kinds, and serve as useless, long linear parking lots in traffic jams.
Why wouldn't you use Solar from the Get. It is in the 🏜 🤷🏼♂️ 4:44 Further more make it in AA tunnel get to 1000 mph. Cut that time by 4 yo Cmon Man
California High Speed Rail is the definition of stupidity. Why San Fran to LA where there heaps of competition. San Diego to LA makes more economic sense. Hopefully this project can take advantage of this opportunity as part of Stage 2
A train that starts from nowhere and ends 3 miles from the Vegas strip? Will there be secure parking for thousands of cars at the California stops? Rental cars available at the Vegas end? Will there really be Las Vegans flocking to Cucamonga? Add time, inconvenience and cost getting to and from the train stops, you're better off driving. Unless all you want's a train ride. Better to spend billions upgrading the freight railroad between LA and Vegas and using commuter trains than building the Cucamonga Cannonball. It's really all public funds, despite what this video implies.
They can’t even complete a train between Los Angeles & San Francisco. It’s been in development since 2008.
@JermaniBurroughs
Ай бұрын
But Fortress the Company that’s running. Brightline West Built & Expanded a Higher Speed Rail in Florida in 4 - 9 Years
@nlpnt
Ай бұрын
This is why they're doing single-track in the Interstate median. Right-of-way acquisition was what took CAHSR so long and cost so much, it's right there in the video.
@corgg2
Ай бұрын
California is going alone to build a High Speed Rail at the highest specs possible when no other line has been built in the US this way. Land rights acquisitions and no organic-to-the-state experience exists. All work has to be outsourced for this project. This is why there is substantial delay and cost associated with that effort. This LA to Vegas line is happening a lot quicker and faster because the right of way for over 90% of the route is already a Federal highway. It's not to the highest specs possible, and it exists at grade with a road system that already exists.
@AL-lh2ht
Ай бұрын
Basically the reason its takng so long as the state is paying like 80% or more percent of it
@Hastdupech8509
Ай бұрын
@@AL-lh2htWhich is actually braindead, national governments exist also to help States (or regions or provinces, names don't change the substance) with these infrastructural challenges which are of national relevance. Never understood why the federal government doesn't back up this, it did building the Interstate system
Wow i live next to the proposed LA connection, now ill be able to go to Las Vegas for legal prostitution so easily
Seriously 12 billion for an la to vegas railway ?????? This country just can't get it's head out of its' behind. The only thing stupider than that was the 10 Billion gift and charger monopoly that went to Elon Musk.
In your dreams
USA will never get a maglev train this was such a wasted opportunity smh
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
Mag levs have higher costs and lower capacities bc you can’t run trains as frequently. They are also less interoperable. A high speed train can run at low speed on other electrified rail, a maglev can’t leave its infrastructure
I support rail transport but I don't support the existence of Las Vegas.
@michaelmurphy825
Ай бұрын
looks like the government subsidizing the gambling industry
Pipe dream, never going to happen in this decade.....
@nygeriunprence
Ай бұрын
Other countries can do it very easily.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
@@nygeriunprenceNot necessarily. Communist China can, but democratic countries take into account what their citizens concerns are regarding large infrastructure projects. Spain's newest HSR line took 15 years to build, and yet they have the largest HSR network in the world.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
@@mrxman581REALLY?! The United States didn't give a tenth of a rat's ass about the general public when the stuperhighways were under construction; during the time of the advancement of these "Hitler strips" (Eisenhower imported them from Nazi Germany), tens of thousands of people lost their value, tax-earning properties to wasteful, ruinous, expensive, destructive, inefficient, and environmentally disastrous concrete ribbons that remove untold millions of acres of valuable real estate from the tax rolls, while serving as long, useless linear parking lots in traffic jams. These damned things cost Americans almost a TRILLION DOLLARS annually; this coming from the general tax fund. This means people without personal motor vehicles end up assisting in the oversubsidization of those owning such vehicles!!
Why are we investing old technology we shouldn't be looking to the future let's go supersonic instead.
For only $200 you can get from LA to Vegas in an hour and a half less than by car…. No wonder rail never worked in the US outside of NJ, PA, NY, and DC.
@colincuratolo1645
Ай бұрын
Rail need more groups of cities for it to work. Some examples I can think of are: 1. Texas Corridor: Arlington, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, Waco, and Lubbock. 2. Floribama Corridor: Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, Orlando, Tampa, Tallahassee, Birmingham. 3. South East Corridor: Atlanta, Charleston, Charlotte, Knoxville, Asheville, Nashville, Chattanooga. 4. Rust Belt Corridor: Pittsburgh, Dayton, Cincinnati, Louisville, Lexington, Cleveland, Akron, Grand Rapids, Columbus, Detroit, and Chicago.
@stickynorth
Ай бұрын
There are going to be seats way cheaper than that... He plucked that number out of nowhere... Even Brightline East reporters were moaning about the $70 fare while seeing that the screen she bought the ticket from had a cheaper $39 option... They just want to FUD the hell out of rail to keep cars and airlines full... It's total BS!
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
"No wonder rail never worked in the US outside of NJ, PA, NY, and DC.".... And do you know just WHY?! It's because of automotive and air travel receiving huge 55-gallon drumfuls of hand-over-fist blank checks from all governmental levels, while railroads have always had to pay very heavy property taxes, same of which end up assisting in the oversubsidization of both automotive and air travel.
China 🇨🇳 also huge country. It’s not an excuse!)
Plane ticket $200 1 hr flight train 2 hrs $400 what you chose?
It is a great project, but they are severely shooting themselves in the foot by ending the train in the outskirts of las vegas. If anything THE advantage of rail (high and normal speed) is that it takes you straight to the city centre without traffic jams, long urban roads, and having to fight someone over a parking spot, and they largely trow it away like this.
American gave away money hundreds of billions dollars to Ukraine but don't have money to build 9 billion dollars HSR 😂 I mean the defence budget alone can build HSR all across USA hundreds of thousands KM railway.
@danielfchen8895
28 күн бұрын
Infrastructure spending has been decreasing every year for the past 40 years. It’s a cycle for any developed nation. US main budget goes to defense spending bc it wants to police the world. You’re right it should focus on internally but politically us wants to be the big boss so in order to show the world that they’re big boss they gotta spend billions and trillions on the military. China is also doing that. You can see that they’re slowing down on their infrastructure spending and putting more money into their military.
>doesn’t end up in LA, but 20 miles away. >doesnt end up in Las Vegas, but three miles away from the actual center >single tracked. BS. That’s not true high speed rail. >no reliable mass transit at either end Yeah this is another typical high speed rail scam and boondoggle. I’ll take Southwest Airlines or drive. And so will others. The only people taking this will be the few commuters in the intermediate stations who work in Rancho Cucamonga, but will they be willing to pay $400 dollars?
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
At the VERY LEAST, it'll collect fares; the stuperhighways just sit and guzzle almost a trillion dollars of general taxes annually, and virtually ALL commercial passenger air travel is oversubsidized with literal hand-over-fist 55-gal!on drumfuls of blank checks from all governmental levels----this is why so many people who should just stay on the ground are in the air instead, wreaking havoc....
By the time they finish this, most people will have fully self-driving pods they climb into and sleep while their car drives them to their destination...
@gruzit2622
Ай бұрын
Cars? Goodluck when more people keep driving. Traffic jam.
Look at California's HSR. It's a joke! Even countries like Indonesia and Morocco have HSR running. I wouldn't put much faith in this being finished.
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
CAHSR is building a much superior HSR route.
@user-dj7wv5ok2x
Ай бұрын
Look at passenger travel in the United States in general; now THAT'S a joke! This nation appears quite MORONIC in oversubsidizing wasteful transportation modes such as the automobile (car, BUS, and TRUCK) and the airplane which, due to their fuel intensiveness, consume copious amounts of natural resources that could be used elsewhere much more efficiently. Plus, this thing about "great distances" in the USA; China says "HOLD MY BEER!!"....
All that money for a train that’s barely an hour faster than driving with a car.
@nanaokyere7141
Ай бұрын
It's a start to something bigger.
@StreamSched
Ай бұрын
you can't do anything while driving. As a train passenger you can work, surf, research, social network, eat, drink, work, use the restroom, sleep/rest
@corgg2
Ай бұрын
The I-15 drive sometimes turns into 4-5 hours because of volume. If a train barrels by at 180mph it will be a great advertisement for its use to avoid traffic in the middle of the desert. I've been on this route and it's ridiculous to encounter stop-and-go traffic when there are literally no other services or cities around.
@Hastdupech8509
Ай бұрын
Not only that, but your brain's not ready to talk about the advantages of HS railway. And railway in general as you probably have never even taken a train in your life
@mrxman581
Ай бұрын
Not even an hour from LA. More like 30 minutes or even no time savings. With a car, the travel time can vary tremendously depending on the time of day and day of the week. I regularly make the trip from East LA in less than 4 hours.
One rail line built will not stop climate change. Calm down😂
If it can’t do less than 2 hours it’s a waist of money because you can fly from LA to Vegas in 50 minutes. The cost of the buildout and damage to the environment is worse then flying trains have had higher carbon output then flying. Less people more time and they still need a carbon to run.
@kyrieelite
Ай бұрын
In what world is the cost to build and operate a train worse than flying
Why would anyone in their right mind want to travel between Hollywood/LA and Las Vegas? Both cities are on the 'avoid whenever possible' list of anyone with sense. LA is dirty and riddled with crime. The desert-bound Las Vegas is a ridiculous place to have-much less grow-a city. And high-speed rail will never approach the 600 mph speed of aircraft.
Useless as hell. Not sure who even wants to be living in LA or vegas in the future. By the time we get any of this ill be 80yrs old. Might as well travel to another country and start a life there America is so far behind everyone else its comical
and keep it up, the future and the 15h as you know is not very passable