Urza Oko vs 12 Post | Quarterfinals 3 - Quest for the Best Modern Deck Ever
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What was the best Modern deck ever? We made our community vote for one deck to represent each year since 2011, played four rounds of Swiss, and now we bring you each match of the Top 8. Andrea is playing Carl and either Oko or Emrakul could be knocked out of the tournament.
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@arsteel2388
9 ай бұрын
Decklists: 403 Forbidden?
@fodeueagora
9 ай бұрын
Getting 403 Forbidden on both links
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
@@arsteel2388 I fixed it 👍 although it's a little less aesthetic now 😅
@sebastianjasinski3538
9 ай бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic still doesnt work :c
the 12post deck is one of the most disgusting things i have seen in MTG and i totally love it
@JohnFromAccounting
9 ай бұрын
You can play it at full power in legacy and it's even more disgusting because you get Crop Rotation, Once Upon a Time and Elvish Spirit Guide. The utility lands Maze of Ith and Glacial Chasm are very good as well.
@eatachodeutube
9 ай бұрын
Channel Fireball had a legacy video just recently about that very deck!
@Graatand
9 ай бұрын
@@JohnFromAccountingWasteland was the hero all along
@bgmephisto
9 ай бұрын
@@Graatandthey all run 4 copies of pithing needle main deck to shut that plan down.
@travisbrown9936
9 ай бұрын
@@bgmephistocloud post still is only a tier 2 deck though, just shows how much stronger legacy is
Not at all how I expected this to play out. Seeing 12 Post for the first time played was a treat. The worst thing about this series is waiting a whole week to see the next game.
@kylecote7261
9 ай бұрын
Thespians stage is also a post. 🫡
@kylegonewild
9 ай бұрын
@@kylecote7261 If only it had been out before they got banned.
@kylecote7261
9 ай бұрын
@@kylegonewild yeah, that tracks. 😅
@egoalter1276
5 ай бұрын
16 post here we go.
@denissinner4625
2 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, at the very first modern pro tour, everyone knew this was the deck to beat and prepared for it. There was only one BreachPost that made top8. But Wizards banned it anyway because it was pretty clear to anyone this deck is busted. Especially it made any form of control totally unplayable, the whole meta was combo decks and some aggro.
Andrea's topdecking was hilarious. What a fun match to watch
That 12-post deck is crazy! I thought forsure Oko/Urza would make it through. But casting the Emrakul makes 12-post one of my favourite decks now!
@JohnFromAccounting
9 ай бұрын
It can cost as little as $700 to play the deck in legacy and it's even more powerful.
@malte54
9 ай бұрын
@@JohnFromAccounting But most legacy decks are more powerful, which makes 12 post a tier2 deck.
@travisbrown9936
9 ай бұрын
@@malte54wasteland helps to hold it back a lot
@manarager3413
9 ай бұрын
When 12 post is functionally just playing a legacy deck as is? I trust 12 post more than I trust in Urza Oko, to be honest o.o
@JohnFromAccounting
9 ай бұрын
@@malte54 In terms of power level, 12 Post is definitely up there with the very best. Emrakul is genuinely unbeatable. The only issue with the deck is consistency, which is why it's not played more. Other combos like Breakfast and Doomsday are easier and faster, but they can fold to enough interaction. 12 Post will always win games that go long.
I trust in the 12 Post. Broken mana is always extremely powerful, no matter how slow the format.
@pretends2know
9 ай бұрын
Cloudpost preys on slow formats. To beat it, you need either a lot of land destruction or kill them faster than they can stabilize.
12-post was so underrated in the poll. Many mtg players never experienced it since it was more than a decade ago. "Fast mana / Big mana is ALWAYS broken"
@herzerj.5045
9 ай бұрын
Yes it is thron but with more consistancy :D
@lesternomo6578
9 ай бұрын
for real i was surprised
@SymmetricalDocking
9 ай бұрын
I snap-voted for 12 post as soon as I saw it
To all of you in Cardmarket. Please keep this going. Your energy and enthusiasm makes for a wonderful content and I feel that its MtG as it should be. Thank you!
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
I'm happy you enjoy our content :) we'll do our best so that our future work does not disappoint
Carl has really been playing well this tournament. His decisions, especially at critical moments, have all been great.
@Flair3777
9 ай бұрын
I noticed he's playing well also. I have generally thought he is outmatched dueling all these pros, but he's proving himself very formidable.
@scottsutton7
9 ай бұрын
Carl 100% is using this channel as training to go win a PT 🤣
@LordAlucard55
9 ай бұрын
Yea he grabbed eye of ugin to play around damping and I was just like, yasss queen
@kellycartwright9339
9 ай бұрын
He is consistantly playing with some of the best players in the world, year round, not just for cram testing.
as someone who never saw 12 post in action until now, this was awesome! love this channel and this series
This channel is putting out premium content. Love it
@scottsutton7
9 ай бұрын
Preach!! After years of not playing due to lack of enthusiasm for the game, this channel alone has got me back into MTG
easily the best magic content being put out. Wonderful work everyone.
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@SalaryMan..
9 ай бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic Don't thank me, I'm just telling the truth! Thank you for making great content so frequently!
@JohnFromAccounting
9 ай бұрын
This matchup in particular feels skewed towards 12 Post because Urza-Oko has trouble putting on early pressure.
7:46 attack should be a lot more damage because lattice makes everything artifact which in turn buffs the token.
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Yes we missed that 😅 but it doesn't really matter since we were just playing for giggles at that point. As Andrea said, it's a lock
Awesome seeing the oldest decks advancing
I wonder how broken a 12-post deck would do if it had access to modern cards. Need to have a best modern deck ever, keeping the same archetypes but no banlist and no year restriction. Great content as always 🔥
Love this series
I haven't played Magic in years. I just live vicariously through you guys. Andrea unlocked a core memory talking about durdling haha
Hands down my favorite KZread channel, and my favorite series
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
I'm happy you enjoy the series :)
This is my favourite series of my favourite channel on KZread!! Well played looking forward to the next one
Watching LSV recently play Post in Legacy proved to me hiw crazy 12-Post is. What a brutal series! Great games in a great series!
I figured 12 post was gonna win, but honestly this match up also highlighted just how powerful and oppressive Urza Oko also was. Karn being able to grab sideboard cards like dampening sphere game 1 was insane
I just found this channel in the last week and I have to say, you guys are the most pleasant and wonderful play group I’ve ever watched play! The dynamic, the pure passion for Magic and just enjoying the game. The excitement even when an opponent is doing something cool to win. I will always be fan!
Excellent content! Really love it. Can't wait for the next!
I love watching all these decks in action! Fantastic content guys
Always good to see Mengu! And what a showdown this one was, I was surprised how explosive 12 post is!!
Great game (I love this series) and as always, amazing production quality!
What an amazing match-up! Two explosive decks, filled to the brim with banned cards, and both sides had their fair share of "heart of the cards" moments when they drew just the thing that would keep them in the game. Absolutely phenomenal content and I cannot wait to see what happens in the finals.
Favorite Megu moment lmaoo 19:49
A legitimately fantastic match, that last series of top decks and subtle interactions was beautiful
The editing in these are so crazy good. It makes it such an enjoyable watching experience to see whats happening and i hope official mtg channels use these videos as a standard for future videos.
This series just delivers - fantastic setup and players ❤
Again, the editing here is amazing and I want to thank you for putting in that bit of effort to make the games infinitely more accessible.
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words :) this series is my baby so I put a lot more effort into these. I hope you enjoy the upcoming matches as well!
That last game was suprisingly very exciting and fun to watch until the end! Good job CM Team and Andrea :3
Called it. 12 Post just plays magic on a different scale. At the end of the day, the Urza Oko deck was a fair deck, that didn't really "break" the game. Cloudpost fundamentally breaks the usual 1 mana per land rule, and you cast the most powerful creatures in all of magic, held together with GSZ and Eye of Ugin.
Great content as always guys!
Love this series can't wait for the next video
Yeah I had a feeling that the Oko voters either don’t know Legacy or don’t remember the beginning of Modern and the work required to keep those decks under control. It’s like Tron but better, yet it’s true successor is Titan Bloom, and the fact that Amulet Titan is the 3rd gen iteration of that deck/combo and it’s still a high performing deck in modern is crazy.
Great video, can't wait for the next episode.
best series you made keep up the good work!
Loved it! great content.
Go 12 post!! I play Legacy 12 Post and it's great to see the deck sleeved-up for Modern for one more go
Love this series, especially when they have guest pros piloting the decks
Honestly, Oko put up a lot better of a fight than I expected. Andrea really did play his heart out
@blueplayer6197
9 ай бұрын
Andrea is just proving that the pilot of the deck matters, I think Carl improved immensely since the early days of the channel, he is a very very good player now but Andrea is just a beast
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Andrea is indeed a beast :)
@darksteel913
9 ай бұрын
I mean, he also gets incredibly lucky at multiple points as well. You put that kind of luck and skill together and the decks he plays are going to punch above their weight.@@blueplayer6197
This game felt like it could have gone either way until the end, great show you guys
Best series on KZread!
What a match! Might be my favourite of all the Best of Matches we've got so far. Friendly, but still competitive Match, 12 Post in action (what in the world is that deck?^^) And Andrea playing his heart out, so much so, that he got his heart on his cards (19:49 how is that not the thumbnail?^^) Also I really feel like Carl has steadily improved as a Magic Player, very good work :-)
great content as always!
Great editing!
Lets gooooo more best modern decks series
Love this series, keep it up. Also there is a v good reason cloudposts are banned. Exponential mana is broken. Especially when even that exponential mana is increased with amulet of vigor
@bricelory9534
9 ай бұрын
And don't forget, it can also be exponential life gain when needed...which I think makes it even crazier than you'd think.
Another video, another time I feel obligated to say you guys make my favourite mtg content on KZread
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Hopefully, another time we are thanking you for it :)
I would love these as a playlist! I want to watch then all in order.
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
This is the current playlist for the modern one (still 4 videos to be added): kzread.info/head/PLLHPZ4KRrrKsmv-FzpvcnhfREyi-7OktD&si=tJvjxQ0_v44IR4Po And here is the Playlist for when we did it for standard: kzread.info/head/PLLHPZ4KRrrKu9daHYTjBcPLiLvTnrTK6O&si=mm6ESBF7ZDiuZhD-
Nice to see 12 Post still is a good deck ^^ great content
@JohnFromAccounting
9 ай бұрын
The legacy list is pretty similar.
Man, I had forgotten how fun watching someone play 12 post is.
This was an awesome video! Also, please have more jazz/funk as background music, it fits so well
What a game! I can't believe I had never seen 12-post before!
This series is a banger.
i played the locus lands in my edh orvar deck. you can get some crazy value from just a few sorcery casts
Love this series 🎉
12-post is so awesome. And we didn't even see how it beats aggressive decks, "Play glimmerpost as my land. Outgain your last two burn spells" Really hoping to see it in the final, though both Hogaak and Rakdos Scam seems like difficult match-ups
I'm honestly shook, im surprised by the result. I haven't been playing modern but since after the banning of the locus lands, so its neat to see them on display here
Holy bananas that 12 post surely brought disturbing memories, and I am all for it
Called it in the poll. People don't remember how crazy 12 post was.
@B-Ran_the_Man
9 ай бұрын
It was legal for, i think, one tournament at the beginning of modern before it got banned, so unless you know of the Legacy version, this deck is a surprise to most
Such clutch draws on game 3 with that thoughtseize and scapeshift.
That was exciting!
Greeeeeeat stuff dudes
God it feels good to be right. Called it on the poll. Exciting to see all the "first time seeing 12post" comments - truly an archival series as much as it is a showcase of great gameplay!
Fantastic game, what else can we say 😍
You guys should totally do this with regular commander decks, I need 7 hour long videos of you guys in my life 😂
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Hahahahaha I'm sorry but I am not canceling my plans for an entire month to edit that video 🤣
@Rodinj10
9 ай бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic hahah it was worth a shot😂
Everyone was doubting 12post in the poll yesterday and I knew it was going to take it. Its one of my favorite decks and is basically a prototype prime-time. Anyways, more Locus support when WotC?
both decks look like a lot of fun to play
11:30 Little thing that i hoped to see a coment on but didnt. Maybe im wrong but as far as im concerned dryad arbor retains the land type. Its turned into an elk but it remains a creature land: creature land - elk, so you can pop it with scapeshift
This is my favorite series of all time
Excellent quality as usual, thank you! :) May I ask you to clarify what is the "misplay" about not choosing Ulamog that Mengu mentions in the post-match? I can't figure out to what he's referring to
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
When I waiting till Andrea's turn to get an emrakul end of turn instead of getting an ulamog and playing it on his turn. He played assassin's trophy and thoughtseized my Emrakul out of my hand. It has been cut out but he then said it was maybe a missplay and that I should have just gotten ulamog instead (I was not playing around the god-draw of thoughtseize into trophy). In the end we were saying that I was still not punished as shape-shifting allowed me to get my eye of ugin anyway 😅
@djanpo993
9 ай бұрын
@@CardmarketMagic oh right I overlooked the dryad arbor and in my counting I was one mana short. Thanks for the quick answer, really nice of you :) btw waiting for Emrakul was the best move imho, gooo Carl!
Ah, the Mengu episodes are the best! 🎉
can u imagien how powerfull the locus lands where in pauper ? Love to see 12 Post in Action again . I am old enough that i saw it play :)
started magic when throne of eldraine dropped and my lord was that disgusting/amazing. Carl was having the time of his life! Mengu thanks for being the good sport that you are
12 post is my favorite ever since I opened glimmerpost in a pack and wanted to build it for my casual group 😂 im hoping it goes all the way!
Thank you making videos like these and the ones for standard, I have always wanted to see something like this
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
That's why we make them :) I've also always wanted to see something like this as well
So excited!!! :D:D:D
I love how they included in the HUD that he revealed his rebuke lol
I am so glad I voted for 12post. I was certain it can plop down an Emrakul before Oko does it's thing. Such a ruthless deck and an epitome of old Modern.
I was so sure that Oko/Urza would win because both of those cards are batshit crazy, but this just proves that not even the High Lord Artificer himself, when joined by the ban-hammer, can actually beat hard cast Emrakul. Great games.
One of the craziest paper Moderm matches ive ever seen lol. Feels like I'm watching a Legacy matchup, and even there not all the cards are legal!
Amazing content
12 post is basically tron but twice as good, maybe more. It was one of my first decks in pauper and it's one of those decks you need to play to see how broken it is. Glimmerpost actually does so much, that 1 turn where you gain 3-5 life is equal to an extra turn to do more broken stuff.
I'm glad I'm new that i didn't experience 12 Post irl. That is one of the most terrifying thing to see on the other side of the table. "I'll ramp, then ramp, then ramp, emrakul. resolve?"
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Emrakul always resolves 😎 it can't be countered. Which is even scarier 😅
yes! rooted for big green eldrazis🔥
19:48 gotta love Andreas adhd vibes. That’s why I’m watching his streams too
Get there 12 post. I believe in you
I remember back when the 12 Post name first came up, back when the deck only ran 4 Cloudposts (and 8 spells to find them).
Dat Primeval Titan stock bear roar effect sound edit that's also used by WoW and Warcraft 3 doe. lol
I always forget how nutty twelve post is. I was just getting into magic around the time it was banned in modern
Congratulations Carl! Hard fought victory 🎉
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
Thank you 🥳
I love you both so much ❤
So andreas play that saves him is thoughtseize. With it on the stack assasins trophy the eye?
CALLLED IT ! EXPONENTIAL MANA WINS AGAIN !!!
@opensocietyenjoyer
9 ай бұрын
it's quadratic mana, actually
I wonder what the decks would look like if they were allowed to change up to 4 cards that have been added to the cardpool since.
7:41 the Construct was a 14/14, so that swing was lethal. remember, Lattice makes every permanent an artifact, including your lands and Planeswalkers, so the Construct counts those
@CardmarketMagic
9 ай бұрын
That is correct! But the game was over anyway, we were just playing for giggles at that point 😅 as Andrea said, it's a lock
I genuinely thought you had accidentally reuploaded the Bloom Titan match when I saw Carl’s first opening hand kek