Untamed

Фильм және анимация

Sally, an introverted 15 year old girl, lives and bears with her wolf-father in the city of New York where Wolf is slipping more and more into his world of wilderness.
Sally still remembers the man he used to be; a brilliant and talented jazz trumpeter. Where did her father go? And can he still be found somewhere within the Wolf?
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UNTAMED was made by a team of 3rd year Character Animation & CG Art students at The Ani-mation Workshop in Viborg, Denmark. Check out the individual student’s blogs at the links below to learn more about the talent behind the film!
CREDITS
Juliette Viger
Director/Storyboard/Editing/Animation - www.julietteviger.strikingly.com , / javajuliette
Maja-Lisa Kehlet
Art Director/Visual Development/CG Generalist -
www.artstation.com/artist/maj...
Tautvydas Kazlauskas
CG Generalist/Visual Development/Production Manager - www.paintedpoly.com
Anna Ewa Nowakowska
Animation Lead/Story Development - www.annanowakowska.com
Andreea Serban-Chira
CG Generalist/Visual Development - www.andreeaserbanchira.comNew York,
Simon Dilling Hansen
CG Generalist/Visual Development - www.simondillingportfolio.tumblr.com
William Mackenzie
Animator - www.brevityarts.wix.com/will-mackenzie
Karina Venneberg Sørensen
Animator - www.vimeo.com/venneberg
Music composed by Pablo Pico
Additional Work by:
Marylou Mao
Animation
Sara Jespersen Holm
Animation
Nikolaj Themothæussen
Animation
Parental Guidance Suggested

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  • @thevalkyriequeen4545
    @thevalkyriequeen45458 жыл бұрын

    For those that don't understand, this is NOT about abuse but addiction - most likely alcohol. The entire animation is a metaphor for addiction and how, much like a beast; people lose more and more of themselves the more they allow something to consume them. Also, that is her father not husband or boyfriend but really it doesn't matter because it is someone she cares for. The entire animation revolves around her trying to find a solution and him coming to terms to accept it. Towards the beginning, she thinks reminiscing about his old music career might help but it only seems to drive him further toward his instincts. The trumpet is symbolic of that moment as she plays it and his old records but he more or less seems uninterested or bitter because of it. Especially after he drunkenly plays out in the street and is berated by neighbors. The father consuming the cat may mean he is symbolically "devouring" anything that makes her happy because of his addiction because addicts often forgo the needs of others to meet that craving or even bum off relatives or their own children to fill that need. Or it could represent she can never truly be happy because the thought of her father being miserable is always looming about inside her mind and consuming her thoughts. Thus, she turns to her second option - the muzzle. The muzzle I think represents denial or a rigid acceptance. It's not gradual but sudden and anyone who has had an addiction knows this most likely wont work because you can't simply "stop" being addicted right on the spot. It's not healthy or reasonable to a person; addiction takes time to start and in turn time to stop. The daughter doesn't understand this. When she tries to put the muzzle on him, as another commentor said; he "feels betrayed" and lashes out in misplaced anger. Realizing what he has become he wears the muzzle and honestly seems to be contemplating suicide to either escape the truth or remove himself so he daughter can be free. But I think at that point, they realize what the best solution is... It's her. I believe her removing the muzzle hints that she realizes neither the past nor the muzzle will help her father because they don't see him for what he is but she does (symbolized by the moment where she takes off the muzzle and we briefly see him for the man he IS not was). It's her love and dedication that made her father realize he needed to change because he loves her too - enough to dawn the muzzle and even maybe kill himself so she wont worry over him anymore. But luckily both them realize the best solution is each other and what they feel and will do for one another and the ending hints that the father isn't cured of the disease right of the bat but together they will work toward that cure as a family.

  • @littleowllps7144

    @littleowllps7144

    8 жыл бұрын

    is it bad that I read all of that?

  • @thevalkyriequeen4545

    @thevalkyriequeen4545

    8 жыл бұрын

    So long as you enjoyed it. Sorry if it was lengthy, just trying to explain a few things to help the locals out.

  • @dollface-shaynamartin1701

    @dollface-shaynamartin1701

    8 жыл бұрын

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 BRAVO! BRAVO!!

  • @immrpandabear

    @immrpandabear

    8 жыл бұрын

    A grown woman living with just her "father" in an apartment uhhh alrighttttt....

  • @thevalkyriequeen4545

    @thevalkyriequeen4545

    8 жыл бұрын

    I think it is just the animation but it says in the description it is indeed her father. But I'll admit, she does look like she is maybe in her mid-20s or early 30s.

  • @funnyfish660
    @funnyfish6607 жыл бұрын

    When a wolf can play the trumpet better than you can

  • @team10leader1
    @team10leader18 жыл бұрын

    I liked how the entire story depicted its allegory about parents with an addiction (be it alcohol or drugs). It's like they're a whole different animal, one that's always hungry, always prowling for more, losing a little more humanity with each fix. And the muzzle represented getting help or rehabilitation. The girl was hesitant to use the muzzle on her father because it was a last resort. It was only once her father crossed a line that she made up her made to get him help (in the form of the muzzle). When he bit her, it represented how defensive he got, how betrayed he felt that his own daughter thought he deserved rehabilitation. And yet, he donned the muzzle on himself to admit he did need help. I guess, getting help isn't something you can force on someone, even with good intentions. First, they have to want to change.

  • @kona-kjlases8143

    @kona-kjlases8143

    6 жыл бұрын

    :( welp never gonna happen with my dad

  • @durpddurke4633

    @durpddurke4633

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think the muzzle represents her about to call the police because her father did some form of violence. Perhaps injured or killed someone to get more "food" Him putting it on meant the father wanted to own up to his mistakes and surrendering himself to the police. I dunno, this is just my theory

  • @team10leader1

    @team10leader1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Whatever happens, I hope somehow, your home life can turn out for the best

  • @itzKal
    @itzKal8 жыл бұрын

    If I could give this two thumbs up, I would. That was great, really great.

  • @radoslavnedyalkov425
    @radoslavnedyalkov4258 жыл бұрын

    One of the best ones The Animation workshop has ever produced

  • @team10leader1
    @team10leader17 жыл бұрын

    5:00-5:10 I like how it shows the daughter's thoughts: she's coming to terms that her father's addiction wasn't just something that happened overnight. Addictions build up slowly, one day at a time. And if she wants her father to break out of it, she must accept that becoming sober isn't an instant solution, but a gradual process.

  • @crankyhead1089
    @crankyhead10894 жыл бұрын

    that last sigh at the end really got to me ;_; it's like when you surrender to someones embrace, when you're at your darkest hour....

  • @zaraeraesmith7510
    @zaraeraesmith75108 жыл бұрын

    This was so sweet i swear i almost cried at the end

  • @0Domingo0

    @0Domingo0

    6 жыл бұрын

    why ?

  • @zokazokarai8758
    @zokazokarai87588 жыл бұрын

    Nooo! Not the kitty. It's too precious! Aside from that, love the art syle!

  • @Sp36Gamer

    @Sp36Gamer

    8 жыл бұрын

    great werewolf kill animal and humans you kill @-@

  • @staticsnow8347
    @staticsnow83477 жыл бұрын

    WHY DOES THE CAT ALWAYS DIE?

  • @halowinggaming4507

    @halowinggaming4507

    7 жыл бұрын

    MEGA GALAXY Animations WHYYYYY T~T it makes me sad

  • @icesswolvescats7425

    @icesswolvescats7425

    7 жыл бұрын

    i cried now because that cat looks like with my cat (siamese cat)

  • @itsyaboinadia

    @itsyaboinadia

    7 жыл бұрын

    MEGA GALAXY Animations cos dogs already die too much

  • @Md-px9hp

    @Md-px9hp

    7 жыл бұрын

    MEGA GALAXY Animations because wolves are cousins to dogs and dogs hate cats so that's why the wolf ate the cat

  • @alligatorteeth1242

    @alligatorteeth1242

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wolf Girl not all dogs hate cats, wolves see cats as prey.

  • @vadimfedenko
    @vadimfedenko8 жыл бұрын

    this is truly a masterpiece

  • @LouRaccoon
    @LouRaccoon8 жыл бұрын

    Why do I feel like this is a metaphor for alcoholism?

  • @Lifelovecats

    @Lifelovecats

    7 жыл бұрын

    because it is 😁

  • @officialJoCa

    @officialJoCa

    7 жыл бұрын

    This is a great metaphor. The wife catches him eating a live animal again (drinking again) and when she tries to muzzle him (confront him about his alcohol addiction), he hits her so she walks out on him only to return when he shows her he will muzzle himself (seek help/treatment for his addiction).

  • @LouRaccoon

    @LouRaccoon

    7 жыл бұрын

    bowl4two I thought it was his daughter.

  • @officialJoCa

    @officialJoCa

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mochni Monster That works too.

  • @o0galanix0o78

    @o0galanix0o78

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Mochni Monster it is

  • @Rickardo9828
    @Rickardo98288 жыл бұрын

    this was incredibly beautiful, I was almost in a state of disbelief when I saw the cat at the window. great job!

  • @anniemz6887
    @anniemz68877 жыл бұрын

    I know this isn't about real animal but my husky who's part wolf bite me recently and pretty badly , the muzzle scene instantly made me remember his face when that happened ...

  • @thehandgunlad1940

    @thehandgunlad1940

    5 жыл бұрын

    Annie Mz I have two huskies my male die recently😥

  • @BadBoyz1231

    @BadBoyz1231

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jeez can you juat stop...

  • @missmoon0184
    @missmoon01847 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE UNTAMED!!!!!! Adoro il significato e il simbolismo del video. Che ci fa comprendere come noi non dobbiamo farci divorare dal nostro lupo interiore ma accettarlo e VIVERE!

  • @karibucountry1981
    @karibucountry19814 жыл бұрын

    I came for the wolf in the thumbnail and didn’t expect this much of a deep meaning. Dang

  • @KendallFalk
    @KendallFalk7 жыл бұрын

    This made me so teary eyed, I loved it. Great work.

  • @aitkaserewoodo5779
    @aitkaserewoodo57798 жыл бұрын

    Not a single word was said throughout the short.... yet so much was told. This short film pretty much embodies the power and beauty of visual storytelling..........

  • @tiacuppe6681
    @tiacuppe66818 жыл бұрын

    Thought he was going to kill himself for a sec

  • @alligatorteeth1242

    @alligatorteeth1242

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tia Luminescence same

  • @allegorycave7561
    @allegorycave75617 жыл бұрын

    The style and amount of attention to detail in this is insane! :D

  • @isaiahjohnson6126
    @isaiahjohnson61268 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Really good work. Beautiful art direction. The lower frame rate gave it a sort of stop motion feeling. Actually, I'd really like to see this in stop motion if you ever have the budget to do it. The animation generally had very good timing and acting to it. The faces were very natural and expressive. Very relatable. The story was simple, but engaging enough. I think that a few more prominent elements providing insight into the relationship between the two characters would have helped me out. While it was clear that this girl was in an abusive relationship, I wasn't sure if it was a romantic partner situation or a father/daughter situation. But yeah, all told this was really cool to watch. Thanks.

  • @beanzoverlord
    @beanzoverlord7 жыл бұрын

    Is is very well done, I like the way you portrayed alcoholism and the way the story is told. Very well done

  • @thephoneguy6339
    @thephoneguy63396 жыл бұрын

    This was a beautiful animation! The art style the lighting the detail the animation, the story, everything about this animation is beautiful! It was well done and it's one of my new favourite animations on KZread of all time. Great work to all the people who put their time and effort into making this masterpiece!

  • @benjaminlewis4054
    @benjaminlewis40545 жыл бұрын

    I understand the meaning behind the story, but I didn't even read about it under the video til the video was over. What I took from this, is that this is what a lot of us veterans feel like when we come home and try to blend back in with society.

  • @dacostaanimationstudios5997
    @dacostaanimationstudios5997 Жыл бұрын

    The ambiance is marvelous in this short.

  • @ronanasche7063
    @ronanasche70636 жыл бұрын

    This is an incredibly well thought out animation that conveys the effect addiction has on people. The art style perfectly compliments the somber mood of the film, as does the grey/ blue air around everything. The lighting is beautiful, and the motion reminds me of films like The Nightmare Before Christmas, which I adore. Incredible job, you really deserve more attention than you do.

  • @saifamareen6648
    @saifamareen66488 жыл бұрын

    outstanding, phenomenal, marvelous these are but a few words to describe this short!

  • @TuxedoVaileGAMES
    @TuxedoVaileGAMES8 жыл бұрын

    That was really cool. Thank you for the non-cliche Werewolf creation. As a Werewolf fan I very much appreciated this. Keep it up! :D

  • @Dumb_Woof
    @Dumb_Woof8 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! Absolutely adore the style you went for.

  • @rowan6872
    @rowan68726 жыл бұрын

    Someone turn this into a movie please.👌💜

  • @2500xerxes
    @2500xerxes8 жыл бұрын

    great as always! keep up the unique work animation workshop!

  • @dragonzoraart5844
    @dragonzoraart58446 жыл бұрын

    I love the artistic talent and symbolism used in this animation.Nice work!

  • @madama3844
    @madama38447 жыл бұрын

    This was very touching honestly.

  • @ThatGenericPyro
    @ThatGenericPyro6 жыл бұрын

    This really deserves more attention, it's honestly incredible that this is a student film. Well done!

  • @divinatoryangel
    @divinatoryangel6 жыл бұрын

    6:12 Keeps hurting meh ;-; WHY AM I WATCHING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • @blanketwhite5672
    @blanketwhite56726 жыл бұрын

    Even though Sally father is bad she always take care of her father

  • @fabior.9326
    @fabior.93266 жыл бұрын

    You are a Genius, I love your work. Defenitley touched my feelins more than any 2h movie I watched in the past time. Keep up the good work and never let you down!

  • @shaunataylor5449
    @shaunataylor54496 жыл бұрын

    NOOOOO THE CAT!!!!! IM CRYING!!!!! DX

  • @amshg21
    @amshg217 жыл бұрын

    awesome video , another great work by The Animation Workshop

  • @Cherrybodt
    @Cherrybodt7 жыл бұрын

    This was sooo amazing and touching. Srsly. Sooo great.

  • @digihunter6602
    @digihunter6602 Жыл бұрын

    Esse trabalho continua sendo... Deslumbrante!

  • @hansgrubber5212
    @hansgrubber52125 жыл бұрын

    Great job ! I loved it and this beautiful music too

  • @wheels6477
    @wheels64777 жыл бұрын

    This made me cry...

  • @ryriclan3425
    @ryriclan34258 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! If only I was this talented and had your guys's king of motivation!

  • @LauraJolly
    @LauraJolly8 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely gorgeous,

  • @aj-op6zp
    @aj-op6zp7 жыл бұрын

    i told tim to stop fucking cutting onions in here

  • @thatonetoastedbagel5777

    @thatonetoastedbagel5777

    7 жыл бұрын

    a person WOW xD

  • @drowningmachine_
    @drowningmachine_7 жыл бұрын

    For those of you who don't understand; I believe that this animation is a representation of substance abuse, be it drugs or alcohol, and the affects it can have on children because of that. To start, an addiction can make you piss away your whole life career, hence why "The Wolf" used to be a talented trumpeter, but is not anymore. In the scene where he's outside, playing his trumpet, it's a representation of him being drunk/on whatever drug he's abusing. He wakes everyone up, without noticing or even intending to. When the muzzle shows up at their door, I beleive that shows that child protective services are trying to help. Finally, the abuse gets so bad to a point where the wolf actually murders someone, be it a family member or good friend. The main character is shocked, and calls child protective services and the police. The wolf gets mad at her and attacks, hurting the girl. The girl runs away, and when she finally comes back, it may be a representation of rehab, considering that the wolf seems more calm and realizes he was wrong in his ways.

  • @athena_arena
    @athena_arena8 жыл бұрын

    that was beautiful and can you make part 2 please👏👏👌👌😳😳

  • @wolfgirl3159
    @wolfgirl31596 жыл бұрын

    Omg!I love it!!! 🐺

  • @Salem_S.
    @Salem_S.6 жыл бұрын

    I lost my Father to alcohol eleven years ago on Sep 26, 2016. The day after my parents wedding anniversary. He was drunk and in a motorcycle accident. I was 15. A month later I would turn 16. My Father was laid off from work and said he wanted to drink so bad after a year sobriety. The next morning....the last words I said to him was I love you too Dad, then we hugged. I could not believe those were my last moments with my dad....I am 27 going on 28 in Oct now. The guilt has ridden me since then. It was my fault. I should have convinced him not to drink with his family and drive home. But I did not know until then when the sheriff broke the news that Saturday morning.

  • @zebfirehd9102

    @zebfirehd9102

    6 жыл бұрын

    benjamin alvarado auto correct you mean 2006 right not 2016

  • @pongsapaksubpokatorn6138
    @pongsapaksubpokatorn61386 жыл бұрын

    My tear are already dry up but this story is the truly sadness.

  • @neverthesame7887
    @neverthesame78877 жыл бұрын

    Wow, this was very touching. My first thought was that he couldn't play unless he was UNTAMED, in other words, playing the instrument on his own terms, his own self expression. And when he wasn't "allowed," when he was muzzled, he was miserable and he became that angry wild (untamed) wolf. This was more a story about expressing one's self the way they wished but those actions, though really not fair, affects others in a big way if they don't understand you. I didn't realize it was a father and daughter. Anyway, the ending was brilliant and I actually had a few tears when she leaned against his shoulder as if to say, "I understand" The screen fades to black the credits roll but the sound is still on. Suddenly you hear a wild roar and a scream along with crunching sounds....oh that's terrible. Sorry!!! haha I just had to end my comment with that last (terrible) sentence. Just lightening up the (or rather MY) mood! It really was a fantastic short video.

  • @tomrees3
    @tomrees36 жыл бұрын

    Poor kitty, RIP Puss..😭🐱💝💝💝

  • @thomasford2032
    @thomasford20325 жыл бұрын

    This was beautiful. I had to try hard not to cry due ring this it's a tragic story and it is very well animated.

  • @marki7345
    @marki73456 жыл бұрын

    This seriously means a lot.

  • @Demigodish4o3
    @Demigodish4o38 жыл бұрын

    That was beautiful.

  • @dayne6315
    @dayne63157 жыл бұрын

    i literally just cried😭😭😭😭😭

  • @leon7356
    @leon73567 жыл бұрын

    cool! I really like the plot to it!

  • @Serve75
    @Serve758 жыл бұрын

    So good!

  • @circusbaby8059
    @circusbaby80597 жыл бұрын

    this was good on so many levels, bruh!

  • @turduck6282
    @turduck62828 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful!

  • @dakodatemptations7045
    @dakodatemptations70457 жыл бұрын

    the symbolism of this was great for describing an addict with a child and how much of a beast that addict becomes

  • @HeavyStorm74
    @HeavyStorm747 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful metaphor... the animation is on point. Congrats 😋😋😋

  • @imbernell
    @imbernell7 жыл бұрын

    When you're untamed af.

  • @joshfreeman4402
    @joshfreeman44027 жыл бұрын

    that's a beautiful story

  • @skycueiogameplay1789
    @skycueiogameplay17897 жыл бұрын

    I loved your work and great animation and you have a great future on your channel;)

  • @olivia16000
    @olivia160005 жыл бұрын

    So much is expressed with so few words..

  • @roselasalvatrice4664
    @roselasalvatrice46646 жыл бұрын

    Adorable video movie

  • @matthewhorton6659
    @matthewhorton66596 жыл бұрын

    In love with this

  • @sarahbembridge2595
    @sarahbembridge25956 жыл бұрын

    This is soo cute I love it

  • @Forgemaster-ob8yz
    @Forgemaster-ob8yz7 жыл бұрын

    Well that was charming.

  • @lfamvs5520
    @lfamvs55206 жыл бұрын

    Pure beauty

  • @starcakes2834
    @starcakes28346 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful 👍

  • @ellobofenix4397
    @ellobofenix43976 жыл бұрын

    Great job of animation.Solo quisiera que fuera una película con la historia de principio a fin.

  • @idohighman3006
    @idohighman30068 жыл бұрын

    lovely video!

  • @michaelbartolazzi8716
    @michaelbartolazzi87167 жыл бұрын

    Really well done

  • @morgan2432
    @morgan24328 жыл бұрын

    To this day Carol is still looking for her purrfect little Tibbles.

  • @chilliebones2600
    @chilliebones26007 жыл бұрын

    this was so good

  • @professorseverussnape5815
    @professorseverussnape58157 жыл бұрын

    I can't understand why she doesn't like him being a werewolf. That is a one in a million gift, and she should be overjoyed. I'll never understand muggles....

  • @Goldenwolf-ve1fm
    @Goldenwolf-ve1fm7 жыл бұрын

    this gets you thinking about life

  • @dragonmage3623
    @dragonmage36238 жыл бұрын

    bitter sweet end, but so beautiful

  • @tret6362
    @tret63628 жыл бұрын

    Music please it's so good

  • @zealandsydney6194
    @zealandsydney61946 жыл бұрын

    Incredible

  • @yourpalsal42
    @yourpalsal428 жыл бұрын

    this was amazing

  • @assumzaek
    @assumzaek8 жыл бұрын

    Well done!

  • @chase9000
    @chase90007 жыл бұрын

    this is soooooo cute!! 🐺

  • @kato64
    @kato648 жыл бұрын

    It was so sad seeing the daughter being terrified of her own father because he was a werewolf man but a few moments later she came back to him she realize why she being scared of her own dad because she was so caught up with his werewolf side she didn't think about her human father on the inside so she realize it doesn't matter what you look like it what's on the inside that counts her human father she loves.

  • @thatreallylongusernameonyo3904

    @thatreallylongusernameonyo3904

    7 жыл бұрын

    kato64 That's not the message of the video most likely but good guess

  • @chuupew

    @chuupew

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its about her dad being a alcoholic and have addition because he looses his career and the wolf is just the symbol of her dad addiction

  • @joeystikboy1140

    @joeystikboy1140

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wait, then how did her cat die?

  • @sgtruru

    @sgtruru

    6 жыл бұрын

    Joey Stikboy no, it's just symbolising him killing things she loves.

  • @rajumondal3642
    @rajumondal36428 жыл бұрын

    awesome...

  • @unused3420
    @unused34207 жыл бұрын

    I love the look of these animated characters. The whole style, to me it's like Tim Burton

  • @Md-px9hp
    @Md-px9hp7 жыл бұрын

    I cried during this video

  • @thisrandomchannelidkxd491
    @thisrandomchannelidkxd4917 жыл бұрын

    Best film ever. o0o

  • @gotmoose_
    @gotmoose_5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @victoriaandthewolf
    @victoriaandthewolf8 жыл бұрын

    Where can I find more music exactly like this? The soundtrack is beautiful!

  • @jaxon8618
    @jaxon86186 жыл бұрын

    What a cute animation

  • @thefloofyasaurus5147
    @thefloofyasaurus51477 жыл бұрын

    aww the end was ssoooooo cute

  • @liberaformaterareoraorea8289
    @liberaformaterareoraorea82898 жыл бұрын

    i see the people can't change.and it's nice to be akcepted in realy self

  • @alemzizak8232
    @alemzizak82327 жыл бұрын

    amazing

  • @TheAltaman
    @TheAltaman7 жыл бұрын

    Is this cgi or Stop motion I can't really tell the difference, that's how good it is.

  • @officialJoCa
    @officialJoCa7 жыл бұрын

    It's a metaphor for addiction. The wife catches him eating a live animal again (drinking again) and when she tries to muzzle him (confront him about his alcohol addiction), he hits her so she walks out on him only to return when he shows her he will muzzle himself (seek help/treatment for his addiction).

  • @hmmquitepuzzlingindeed6750

    @hmmquitepuzzlingindeed6750

    6 жыл бұрын

    thats his daughter

  • @caellum1445
    @caellum14457 жыл бұрын

    if im being honest I would have kept the ending where he was in fact human and he was just so disgusted by himself that that was what he saw himself as, a monster. That would have given the audience something more to think about

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