Those solid base lathes are heavy, definitely a sketchy way to do it, but glad to see it didnt land on its face! so nice work :)

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Sketchy for sure! LOL BUT!!! It worked and was safe (that was my main concern). I've moved others and been more 'careful' but I was alone and a bit eager to get it in place and running. I could have created a skid and bolted them together for greater safety, but I was impatient :(

Nail-biting stuff. Good to see you finally unloaded the lathe without any mishaps. Make yourself some wide skates or a wide trolley for stability. I've just done that, it's made moving heavy items much easier and stable. Secure the load to them/it to prevent it from slipping and tipping over. Enjoyed watching, brought back memories. Cheers Tony

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, after this one, I did exacly what you stated. wide skate / dolly with tie down points at the ends. That way I can anchor the machine while moving it around.

I build a 3 or 4 foot wide sled out of heavy timbers to sit them on and bolt them to. Then the top over is less of an issue. Something that heavy you want it to move slow. You can slide timber on timber with some dish soap and water mix pretty easy and it doesn’t make a mess.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Great idea, I've not tried wood on wood. I had not considered a soapy water lubricant. I'll have to try that next time. One I have done is similar, but building a sled out of metal as metal on metal slide extremely easily, especially with a little oil. TBH, I was a bit 'impatient' on this one and wanted to get it into place, this was the quickest way I could get it up and going. :)

@michaelsimpson9779

7 ай бұрын

A dry cake of soap or candle wax liberally applied would do pretty much the same thing I think

Hey you got it off the trailer in one piece, mission accomplished. I'd recommend getting a few Johnson bars if your gonna be messing around with machine tools and other heavy stuff. Thanks for the video.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. And you are correct about the Johnson bars, they are indispensable! I have a pretty good selection of gear from toe jacks, skates, bars, etc. What I don't have is a forklift! I wish I did, this machine was one of the lighter ones I've had to move. The 1940's era Monarch engine lathe is about 9K pounds! It was quite fun to maneuver indoors without a forklift! Skates, leavers, even a come-along and once, a 'nudge' with the tractor :D

you did the best with limited equipment, just be careful. but great work. i did it very similar with my lathe 😂

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it was sketchy for sure! Luckily I rarely need to do this, I generally hire a rigger, but this was a 'get it now or it's gone' deal and had to do it ASAP.

Painful to watch! Glad to see you got off ok brother

Thats a pretty light weight trailer for such a load. The tilt bed is flexing like crazy. Like I said he was very lucky.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Its a 10k trailer, so overall capacity wasnt an issue, but that 10k does assume an evenly distributed load

ive got a johnson bar a 5' prybar and some 3/4"& 2" blackpipe I rolled my Bridgeport like the ancient Egyptians

I would have used the pallet jack & pipe rollers. You were lucky.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

I was very, very careful, but it was sketchy to be sure. I agree though, rollers would have been 100 times easier and more controllable.

Sketchy scary way to do it, though amicably explained. I got a 2 ton hydraulic surface grinder down just by nudging it on diamond plate with a crowbar and with a bit of water to help break the friction. There are more ways to skin a cat, but we must learn and choose the safest, cheapest, fastest, etc. Castors don't work on that kind of flooring. Rolling elements are more dangerous than sliding on sacrificial surfaces like a sheet of metal. I've moved machinery that won't even handle the electric trolley - in that case you just let'er slide down the ramp and land on some sacrificial lumber !

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting. I've had to move a lot of machines, up to about 8K lbs, alone and I'm with you! Having sliding surfaces on slopes is the way to go for all but small machines. I have equipment skates, but to be honest, I don't really like wheels on inclines. In this one I had to due to the trailer available. With this particular one I did not have access to a satisfactory trailer so I had to use a car trailer. doable, but not the best solution.

@meocats

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainLaurelMetalworks I was also unpleasently surprised at how poorly wheels are sliding on my linoleum garaj floors. I got some industrial grade the kind they put in hospitals but my tool carts are having a hard time rolling on them. Also my 400kilo dollies, the kind you use for moving furniture. I load them up with big 12x24 magnetic chucks and sine tables of the same size and they're hard to steer. I have a desk built by joining a tabletop to two rolling toolchests and the wheels bound up once and it tipped over full of my toolroom plates and stuff like that. Why didn't you just pay a platform to move your lathe? The kind used to transport cars when they break down?

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

I tried hiring a rollback (that's we call them here) but none were available in the time frame required. Also, I'm extremely rural, there are only 2 Sunbelt rentals withing 2 hours of me. Neither had a tilt / drop deck trailer that was solid in the middle. So, I was stuck borrowing a friends racecar trailer!

Danger around every corner and it happens so quick

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

Man so many professional whiners here. It's absolutely doable, if a person is the right mindset person for it, given that, you whiners, got to shut up! If your hands are growing from the wrong place, it doesn't mean everyone is that way! Do what you do best, and don't tangle under the feet of real people with your whines!

It hurt me to watch this use some 1/2 " pipe under the head stock end lucky you didn't turn it over

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

It was concerning for sure. in loading I had to use the pallet jack to steer it up the trailer while pulling it on with a winch. I do move them on flat ground with equipment skats and pipe all the time, but on a ramp it's almost 'too fast'. the pallet jack, combined with the winch allows pretty good control on the downhill.

@larryshular3716

Жыл бұрын

Just like to keep load as close to ground as possible lathe base awful narrow top heavy l have to move some of my machines around in shop and move more in luckily I have a big backhoe with forks. Good luck on your end. Hope to see more of your videos

There is no way that lathe weighs 6K pounds. Maybe 2500.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but this is a solid cast iron lathe. The chip tray, coolant reseviour, etc. is all part of the casting. The title says 5K (not 6) and that is a little over. It's actually 4,400 lbs (from Victor: www.penntoolco.com/victor-1840s-precision-heavy-duty-high-speed-lathe-v1840s/ ) without any lubricants. So, maybe this one was 4,500 since it was full of oil and coolant. Now, at the 2,500lb level, I do have a small Jet lathe that is around that weight, but this victor is a huge chunk of iron.

@DavidHerscher

Жыл бұрын

​@@MountainLaurelMetalworks So is my 15x72 leblond, that measures just a smidge over 10’ length in total and i think it weighs in around 4500lb, ish. 4400 sounds a bit more reasonable. 2500 was a bit of a low ball maybe.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the little lathes are 'ok' (i keep mine set up for small work). I just recently sold an old Monarch, it was about 8Klbs. That thing was a BEAST to move around, even on flat ground!

@DavidHerscher

Жыл бұрын

@@MountainLaurelMetalworks Yeah, I like the little guys too though. I have a 9” and a 10” south bend and i just love using ‘em whenever i can. Especially the little 9”. It’s just so dang adorable. Great for small stuff too, i find it easier, at least for me, to work on small stuff on the 9 or 10”. Those big old monarchs are super cool. The 15” leblond is the biggest machine i have, probably will be for at least a while. But it seems like whenever you get a bigger machine, you always find a reason to need an even bigger one before too long… ;)

I was a Union Rigger and Machinery Mover for forty years. I moved hundreds if not thousands of machines. I had a three year apprenticeship, many training classes and multiple certifications. I did NOT know how to operate ONE machine I ever moved. Just because you know how to operate a machine doesn’t mean you know how to move it. Rigging and machinery moving is NOT a do it yourself job. The potential of serious injury and damage to this machine is great if you are inexperienced. Please hire a professional to do this kind of work.

I sincerely hope that you are a better machinist than you are a rigger.

@MountainLaurelMetalworks

Жыл бұрын

LOL, yes. This was a "MUST DO", definitely not a "best practice" . Either i took the lathe that day or someone else got it. So it was a "beg, borrow or steal" type situation. Normally i would pay someone to move it. But it was only 4,500 lbs, so not too bad