This house features four bedrooms three baths and a basement with an industrial metal lathe with permanent machine shop fragrance! The woman of the house will love it!

@reedfelton762

5 жыл бұрын

Okay JP, so I appreciate the tie-in to a real estate ad. Here's why. Prior to the Hwacheon move we were actually considering a move to Colorado. That did not happen but I did write an add that I was going to place in the Home Shop Machinist that would have included the Acer E-mill with the house. If the move happens in the future are you interested in some side work as an ad writer? BTW, the woman of the house does note the "shop fragrance," not the words she uses, and is extremely supportive even though I track metal chips all over the place. Thanks for the creative comment!

@richardchioccola5179

Жыл бұрын

I have a 1954 South Bend in the corner of my living room as a show piece. Right next to it is a 1936 Excelsior cut off saw!

Just manually moved about 6 tonnes of machine tools 100 metres - some up a 1:20 slope and also across (flat) grass. That was stressful enough - down a flight of stairs? Maximum respect! I pity whoever has to clear my workshop when I shuffle-off this mortal coil, but I imagine your executors will be cursing you! Thanks for sharing.

@reedfelton762

Күн бұрын

Hello David, thanks for sharing. Concern noted about my executors. About 4 years ago my wife said..."Honey, you're gonna die!" But then she added... before you die you need a ground floor workshop so I don't have to sell the machines with the house. So the search is on for a new place. I am planning the move out of the basement and will record and post to KZread when done. Any comments about my cognitive state will be accepted without judgement.

Wow, impressive move! For the first 20 minutes I was thinking "if you're worried about Wisconsin winters, why don't you just put a heater in the damn garage", lol. Then I saw how big your basement was and all the other machinery you had down there, and it started to make sense.

Holy smokes, what a job… I’m moving a 15x72 leblond this weekend. It’s just over 120” total length, i think right around the same weight as this thing. I don’t have a tow truck, however i also don’t have to go down stairs lol. The bummer in all this is that your lathe is never coming out of that basement, until it comes out in pieces, likely as scrap metal. That’s a real shame, because that is indeed a beautiful machine you’ve got there!

Holy hell the pucker factor on this one was high but you got it. Great job.

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and you are right about the pucker factor!

Spectacular job. Not sure why, but I keep hearing my wife saying "Honey, I really don't like how that looks there. Can you put it back?"

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. My wife has yet to ask me to move it other than reminding me I am going to die and before I do I will need a shop on ground level. That said, we are looking to move (with the lathe) and I. am looking forward to a ground floor shop. Stay tuned for the extraction video.

Great video!! All that work to get it to the basement, the excitement and joy when its safely in the basement....then it hits that it's not any lighter. Lol. I moved my Whacheon across my garage by myself with pipes and prybars. Definitely don't need a gym membership lol. Awesome job on the skates and toe jacks.

I hope you do well getting it out when the time comes...

Excellent work gentleman! I was worried about when it hit the bottom of the stairs. But she made it! Great job to all of you. -Will

@reedfelton762

4 жыл бұрын

I had my concerns too but we shortened the distance it dropped with dunnage so all was well. Thanks for the comment

WOW! TALK ABOUT DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE! Thank you for your business and thank you for buying American made! Love the video!

@reedfelton762

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice comment. Moving the lathe was the easier of two choices...Try to use it in my unheated garage during the Wisconsin winters or bite the bullet and give it a warm toasty home in my basement shop. If the lathe could talk I am sure it would agree with the warm and toasty choice.

Holy cow batman! That was some knarly machinery moving. I venture to guess that the lathe will be a permanent part of the house now. Mori's and Hwacheon's are like Sherman tanks to move. Style points for your preparation. Bonus points for the wood on the pallet jack and on your machinery dollies. Love your ships wheel arbor press too! All the best, Tom

@reedfelton762

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, Thanks for the kind words. I am a big fan of your channel! Great insights. I use your vice alignment technique all the time. Are we moving soon? Not likely. I will say that as a result of the move I feel confident I could do an extraction if necessary. For now I am just enjoying using the Sherman tank. Will post another vid soon showing my pneumatic chuck lift. Keep up the good work on your channel!

Thanks for sharing your video. I had no doubt that you would succeed. Great work.

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, I appreciate the comment. Once we tipped it down on the landing we were committed. Not succeeding wasn't an option

Will be fun getting it out after a few years.

This is never leaving the basement in one piece.

@wxfield

8 ай бұрын

I'm surprised he didn't consider taking into the basement in pieces.

That was brilliant 10/10. Enjoyed some nail-biting sections. I like your toe jacks, great design, mmm next job.............Cheers Tony

Most remarkable lathe move in every way. Excellent to see this Hwacheon HL 435 made it safe to it's new home. Looking at a Mori Seiki MS850 or South Korea clone for the home shop here. These are among the very best lathes of this size made.

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I just love the lathe and as a move is in the works next year will post the video of the extraction...assuming I survive it.

Ohh man! Watching...... learning.... sitting in my basement shop... thinking of doing the same thing.

Dang! Great planning

Amazing! Great job getting the lathe down safely. I’m just as impressed by all the other machines already down there. Please, please, please let me know if you’re selling that house. I’d gladly take over as caretaker of the machines and tools. 😉

@reedfelton762

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Mathew, Thanks for the kind comments. We are considering moving in the next year so give me a call 414-881-6630 and we can discuss.

Awesome job, I'm impressed! And I subbed...

I'm learning about lathes, have been wanting one for at least 10 years now. And it seems like so many people have enormous lathes in their basement. WOW. What a crazy concept. I've been dreading setting up a 12" cast iron radial arm saw I have, because the arm alone weighs about 120 pounds, and it's a nightmare to move around. But a lathe is a whole different animal, just a solid clump of iron. One thing is that it looks like having 3" diameter ball bearings would make it about 50% easier to roll around, but 3" ball bearings probably cost thousands of dollars, unless you're lucky enough to work at Catterpillar. Or perhaps you do actually work for Catterpillar! One guy on KZread who is apparently an expert on used lathes, said he has moved about 10 times, moving several lathes and milling machines each time. I think if you're going to collect lathes, you have to make the decision that you can't move. You just can't. Moving a bunch of lathes and mills, every 2 years, is not a workable solution.

Good video!

The guy with the tow truck shows up and suddenly, its his project!

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Kent was okay. We worked effectively as a team and got the job done safely. I was good with that. What you didn't see was off camera collaboration, he was very open minded

amazing job! I think i would have just added heat in the garage :) :) Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing more videos!

@dupeaccount1647

3 жыл бұрын

It's nice to have more room in the garage though. I inherited a radial arm saw that I could have theoretically left in the 2 car garage but between 1 large tool box, 1 large toolbox/workbench combo, 2 hot rods, a crate with an old engine in it, an air compressor, a lawn mower and some cabinets and shelves I'm kind of tapped out on room. Of course it (the saw by itself) with the stand and table weighs a hair over 200 pounds so I think the saw by itself weighs ~120-150 pounds so I could just carry it, not 5000 pounds like this thing, lol. I don't know much about lathes and it would depend on the size of the garage and other factors (just adding heat and expanding the garage or what have you) whether I would move it or not. Probably the most important consideration would be how easy would it be to get new parts down there and service it? If it's essentially permanently fixable with new parts? Yeah, downstairs it would go. If it's something that would break and just be 5000 pounds of scrap iron if it did, yeah I'd leave it in the garage to replace the whole thing if necessary.

That is very impressive. That lathe has gone on a one way journey though. Getting it back up the stairs doesn't bear thinking about!

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

Ahh...you are not the first prophet to say that the lathe is in it's final resting place. I am planning on moving when I find a place with ground level shop possibilities. (and taking the lathe with me) From what I learned moving it down the stairs, I think it will be easier taking it up the stairs. The hardest part of moving it down was getting up 7" to the landing. With a tow truck to negate the power of gravity, the lathe extraction should be easier. Stay tuned

@lfoggy3061

Жыл бұрын

Why not build a vertical shaft to access the basement. That way you can just raise and lower items with a hoist. Many industrial premises where I am have this arrangement.

Pipes as rollers 4-6 4' x 1" black iron and a few bars would be easier then skates n the pallet jack. I moved lathes and mills and never strained like you did. The stairs you did the right way completely. Try to always think of ways to never strain your back. Great job and a really nice lathe and shop.. Ill be watching for builds or whatever you like to do.

I can't believe that you picked it up by the spindle.

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Believe it. I checked with a trusted machinery rigger before I did the move and that was what was recommended. The lathe is still giving me repeatable accuracy to about .0003". I would agree that it seems counter intuitive. Thanks for watching.

5 minutes in and I’m thinking I’d have sold that lathe and bought something more suited for domestic use. What do you ever turn that needs that size machine? And your kids will be selling a house with a lathe in the basement.

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Hello David, Thanks for the comment. Hmmm, what does it mean to have a domesticated lathe? Is that a behavior thing or a size thing? The lathe behave quite well so it must be a size thing. In all seriousness, in my opinion, lathes in the 15-20 inch size are very ergonomically optimized. Any smaller the handles are too hard to manipulate and larger it is hard to obtain higher levels of accuracy. My wife and kids won't be selling the house with the lathe. I will be taking it with me to our new location, yet to be determined but definitely a ground floor shop, unless of course someone wants to buy it with the house, which I would be open to. As for what do I turn that requires that much capacity, I have truesd smaller band saw wheels and turned some large discs. I have also taken advantage of the larger through hole in the spindle. Thanks again for viewing.

i sold a monarch 10ee to a guy in sun prairie he lowered it down his wooden stairs, said it took longer to reinforce the stairs then it did to get it down there.

I hope you never have to move but that was a great job! 🎉

John will be proud

Good luck getting that thing back out 😆

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Justin. The hardest part was getting the lathe up on the stair landing. I actually think getting. it out will be easier.

Great video. I needed to see this! I recently moved a South Bend 13 into my basement. I'm now in the middle of restoring it. Since I had to take everything apart anyway, I took everything down in pieces. The heaviest single part is the bed which I estimate at about 1/3 of the total 1500 lbs. That's not much compared to your lathe, but it was still an adventure for me. I hope to do a Bridgeport style mill some day after I finish the lathe. Am inspired to see the mill already in your basement. I wonder if you made or bought the toe jacks? They look simple but serviceable.

@reedfelton762

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, Thanks for the comments. I made the toe jacks courtesy Youyube instructions. The mill was placed in the basement by riggers I hired. Cost me $450.00 8 years ago. Took 3 guys a day and a half to get it in the basement. The same riggers charged me $500 just to take my lathe off the trailer and put it in my garage, 43 minutes work. That was part of my inspiration in doing it myself. Don't hesitate to reach out to me to discuss your next move. My contact info is on CheeseHarp.com

Oh man, that's crazy. Wow.

I just started as Experimental Officer in a laboratory and I have to move quite a lot of heavy equipment and this video is very helpful to plan all this moving. Cheers.

@gentharris

Жыл бұрын

look elsewhere this was total amateur city... spend some time in the oil patch, learn tp move heavy shit safely

Oh my God. This makes my moving job seem utterly trivial.

Thank you.Realy inspiring.I'v got to do the same thing....

@reedfelton762

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss your move. jreedfelton@gmail.com

I have moved some heavy stuff into my basement solo but my basement is not such an altitude change as yours! My long term goal is to move a DSG 13 x 30 , 5,000lbs of english iron! the other problem is it is in the UK and the basement is in Rhode island!

@reedfelton762

5 жыл бұрын

Now that is an ambitus move! Good luck and stay safe.

Good job, gentlemen. It was quite exciting to watch from the comfort and safety of my sofa. Did you grease the wood skids on the stairs...not that they needed greasing in the end. Quite a challenge. Successful outcome, no injuries, no damage. What’s not to like. How did you get the big mill down there? Thanks for taking the trouble to post.

@reedfelton762

4 жыл бұрын

I had a rigger move the mill down. Took 3 men and a small forklift a day and a half!

That was exciting going down the staircase. Just wondering how the ancients move a 1,000 ton monolith up a vertical mountain without all that equipment.

@swapnilmankame

6 ай бұрын

They did have massive wooden winches.

Determination is an amazing thing

@reedfelton762

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment Dave. My will to get the lathe in the basement was amplified when after a few 30 degree days followed by a really hot humid weekend the lathe turned orange with rust. Just couldn't see myself using this in the garage during Wisconsin winters

Never lift a lathe using the chuck/ main spindle . Lathes are by nature “ top heavy “ with a high c of g .Thats what makes them potentially dangerous to move . Always go by the manual .

Years later on Craig’s List: “For sale: Hwacheon HL 435 lathe in very good shape with house on top of it. Neither lathe or house are sold separately.”

very impressive move .......did you have to take the mill apart to get it down there?

That is a perfect example of scrap iron

Wow! If someone suggested that move to me, I'd just laugh. The scariest point was Dave in the stairwell who very sensibly said he didn't like being next to the cable and got out of the way - of the cable failed, it would likely have taken his head off.

Also, did you make new knobs for the shift levers?

@reedfelton762

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments. You have a keen eye! I lost one shift lever en route from Cleveland to Milwaukee so made one new one.

This is normal retired guy type stuff. That was the easy part now we need to put it in the closet. How long did it take?

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Not sure what you mean by "put it in the closet" but I thanks for your question. First off, I am not retired, I am a full time inventor with multiple products on the market. How long did it take? The bulk of the time was getting the lathe up on the landing of the stairs to the basement, about 4 hours to raise it 7 ". Once on the landing, we tipped it down and about 40 minutes later it was on my basement floor. An hour later it was in place.

What are you using for power? 220 three phase convertor?

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

I am using a 10HP American Rotary Phase converter. Works great and is pretty quiet

Imagine the poor sap that has to take that out one day

How does the next owner of the property get it out?

@reedfelton762

3 жыл бұрын

Fair question...and thanks for viewing. I'll be moving in the next year so it will likely be going with me. This may seem odd but I think moving it out will be easier than the orginal move down the stairs. The hardest part of the move was getting the lathe up 7" on to the landing of the stairs. I'll have a straight shot up and out the service door. The only way it stays is if someone buys it when I sell the home.

👍🏻

I noticed the tow truck guy was barking orders. Kinda ballsy for a contracted service. That's not an environment I enjoy working in. Looks like everything went well. I have done this stuff before. I helped a friend get a Warner Swasey lathe out of his basement shop. ----Doozer

screw the pallet jack use 3 skates NOT 4 been done long lime ago.......

why ??? 🤔

@reedfelton762

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question James. Three reasons...1. I couldn't see myself dealing with the rust cycles and other related challenges that using the lathe in an unheated garage in Wisconsin would bring. 2. I use this lathe allot for my work. It is infinitely more efficient to have it in close proximity to all my other machines , tools and supplies. 3. I like a challenge. When I could envision how to move the lathe the benefits of using it in a climate controlled shop far out weighed the modest effort it took to get it to my basement workshop. When I do the math, Dave and I invested a days work and a few hundred dollars to enjoy significant benefits for years into the future. In my way of thinking, that is a pretty good ROI!

Lathes mills in better shape than that model.t are ha him on the wall at full throttle salon

I was a Union Rigger and Machinery Mover for 40 years. I cannot be more clear, moving machinery is NOT a DIY project. I moved thousands of machines in my career, I did not know how to operate one of them. Just because you might be a Master Machinist doesn’t mean you know how to move the machine you know how to operate. Going down steps is a very tricky move with the potential of personal injury, stair collapse or damaging the machine. Please hire a professional, the money spent is well worth it.

@reedfelton762

5 ай бұрын

Hmmm....Lets think about the metrics for a successful DIY project. Was the project completed as planned? Check. Was it done safely? Check. Was there considerable cost savings attained? Check. Did its completion bring significant satisfaction to all involved? Check. Were others able to learn from it? Check.

There's no way my wife would allow me to do this

@reedfelton762

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you should buy her a spa weekend, move the lathe and ask forgiveness later?

picking up a lathe on the spindle and around the Leadscrew… There are dedicated holes in the bed to put barstock through for lifting. Then not even safety shoes while handling that heavy machine… I did not enjoy watching this, sorry

You know Lloyd just when I think you couldn't possibly get any dumber you go and do something like this and totally redeem yourself. Nice job though.