What’s up guys, tough video for me to make, but have had a lot of people ask about my experience with the shifter. I wish MGW would offer an option with less spring tension and then I would likely be a buyer again. A lot of guys love this shifter as is, it just wasn’t for me.

The Barton shifter is super nice with the adjustable centering force.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, great feature since not everybody has the same preference. I really liked it on my GT, but think at this point I’m going to stick with the stock unit. Barton didn’t make a shifter yet for the 350 when I picked mine up.

Good call Jeff , that push down would drive me nuts , plus the stock shifter is really good in my opinion. Have a good day bro .

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve! Yeah, I was never a fan of the push down but was wanted to give the MGW a shot based on their reputation which is outstanding. I felt bad making this video, but the stock shifter is excellent and I had no issues with it to begin with. I'll probably make a follow up video, but downshifts are buttery smooth again!

Barton shifter for me then, been looking for a short shift for my 2016GT. Glad I watched this video, tnx m8 :)

Well brother you gave it a chance. Thank you for the honest review.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Israel R anytime man, I was considering not posting the video but wanted to share my feedback. I’m just one person, but maybe MGW will consider offering some different options in the future.

I would definitely put a Barton back in it, but the stock unit on the Tremec suffices just as well, where as the MT82 shifter leaves a lot to be desired!

I also have the MGW shifter installed on my gt350. I have the cue ball style shift knob which surprisingly gives a smoother in-hand feel during shifts but I definitely see where you’re coming from with the on-off switch metaphor. I was hoping it might loosen a little over time but I guess not. Thanks for sharing.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

TheEzwider88 same, it didn’t loosen up at all in my opinion. Definitely was tough for me to actually decide and pull it.

@MGWINC

4 жыл бұрын

check this video.... kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWp-rrtslcW_dLQ.html

@EVENMETAL

3 жыл бұрын

@@MGWINC MGW w/ the mic drop!

I understand Jeff what u meen it makes it way to stiff and hard shifting on the 2012 GT500 i had

Great video, wish you made more of them

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Burns thanks Richard! I’ll have another video out tomorrow or Friday. A lot of track prep stuff that I just finished. :)

Thanks Jeff for the honest review I really appreciate it..I will now purchase the Barton Hybrid 3 instead 😉👍🏻

Good decision. The stock shifter in the GT350's are amazing.

First let me say I completely get what you're saying. I've had MGW shifters in both a regular S550 GT as well as my current GT350. Right out of the gate, the GT350+MGW felt pretty stiff and certain gear changes (4-->5, 3->2) felt difficult and clunky. Not at all like the GT+MGW. Two things I did to help with that: raise the knob and get a weighted knob. You can raise that knob about an inch or so and get some of your leverage back. I know you said you like the knob low, but for performance driving you actually want it closer to the wheel. There are a lot of threads on the MGW shifter handle and only some of them are really engaged at any point in time. Use the rubber washers they supply (I bought extra from the hardware store) to make sure there's no ugly gap between the knob and the boot. As for the weighted knob, I got a custom knob from Billetworkz. Not sure what it weighs but it's solid stainless. The weight definitely helps. Now my downshifts are easy and the shifter doesn't feel sloppy like the factory one. It's pretty perfect.

You're not the only one I know that has been unhappy with this shifter. I think the stock shifter is so good that I never personally considered an aftermarket.. glad I didn't.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

fourtraxer I felt the same way, should’ve left it as it was haha. I’m really happy with the car now though.

I just started watching this channel because of my plans to buy a GT350 in a little over a year. How does the MGW compare to the stock shifter if not doing heel toe shifting or tracking it, is it worth the upgrade then?

Can’t you remove a spring?

Jeff, Did you add the red start button? I was wondering if a red start button fits the 2019 GT350? Could you speak to this. CJ's Pony Parts

I have a Barton shifter, I love it

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Really liked mine on my GT, it just wasn’t available for the GT350 at the time.

@gsheverything_2716

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeffAshton oh ok, do they have it now

If you're thinking about selling this, please let me know! I need this for mine, and have been wanting to find one for a cheaper price. Thanks again!

Maybe they have a lighter spring? I had issues with the stock shifter. I just got a recall on the reverse lock out, and one thing I noticed is that on few occasions during spirited shifting, it would not engage first gear and it either pop'd out, or would grind going into first. I had this happen a few times and I thought it was my shifting, but after researching and getting this recall notice, I am pretty sure the stock shifter is not as good as I had hoped and is causing this issue.

@stu1kfupm

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same issue regarding the first gear!! Please tell me how did you resolve the issue? Thanks

@billgroves5672

Жыл бұрын

Same, my 1st has pop'd out violently when I start to roll forward (BANG) and have found 2nd to be a grinder at times. Have a MGW2 on the bench ready to go in at some point.

Your right it comes down to personal preference. I have no issues down shifting but wish it was adjustable. I also had a Barton fail on me so I will never purchase another one. They are both great shifters in their own way. But honestly stock with a weighted shift knob was pretty amazing.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

ELITe autofanatic what happened with your Barton, that’s crazy? Never actually heard of one failing, but that would definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth. When I went back to stock, I was like damn, this thing feels perfect to me.

@darwinjunky

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeffAshton well it ended up just being a piece of the reverse lockout broke off and got stuck in it. But they sent me out a new one next day their customer service was great. When it happened I had originally thought the trans broke and had to have it towed home.

@MGWINC

4 жыл бұрын

check this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWp-rrtslcW_dLQ.html

@darwinjunky

4 жыл бұрын

@@MGWINC I am trying this tomorrow.

When are you going to race Andrew?

#AshtonGang !! So should I put a MGW or Barton in my boss? What you thinking bro

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Lee Bostic mannnn.... I personally liked my Barton better, but everybody is different. There are some serious MGW lovers out there. If the springs were softer I might be telling a different story.

@agentorange_3025

4 жыл бұрын

One of my buddies has a mgw race spec in his 5.0 and I agree! It’s AGGRESSIVE af! I just might do the barton then!

Hey Jeff, If you really like the height of the shifter with the MGW, and don't want to struggle downshifting at the track and also getting into gears in general, I highly recommend the steeda short throw LEVER only. This is my set up and it's great and easy to find gears at the track.

@JCK119

4 жыл бұрын

I suspect any short throw lever will do the trick. Just don't get the entire assembly.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Reach out to Xineering for their downshift blip module, I wouldn’t recommend getting an autoblip. I just made a video on the Xineering unit like you mentioned. Since I made this video, I’ve actually learned to like the higher shifter lever on track. I really wish I had tested a heavier weighted knob on the MGW or had information regarding the spring removal at that time.

@JCK119

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeffAshton Yea, I didn't realize this was an older video, thought it was your most recent one. I already bought an AutoBlip unit; why do you recommend against it? I will be installing it very soon before my track day.

Decent video. I'm probably going to stay stock, but honestly I hate the ring pull for reverse. Much prefer the push down.

That is too bad. They make really great shifters. I installed a few on buddies Mustang GT's.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

It’s ridiculously well made, you can tell a lot of thought went into the construction. I really wanted it to stay, but not at the expense of performance for myself.

@laurenceeng

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Ashton I agree. It is a solid solid unit.

@EVENMETAL

3 жыл бұрын

Best shifter I ever had. Completely changed the driving experience in my 13 GT. I will be getting one for my GT350 soon!

MGW just released the Gen 2. Just ordered it

I guess barton shifter is coming?

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

StangGiant I think I’m going to stay stock for now, I really didn’t have any complaints with the factory shifter. I did really like my Barton on my GT though.

Miss you at Mustang week

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

If all the hurricane stuff wasn’t going down, I would’ve made it out.

Mine was the same, but once it hit around 10k miles it was amazing. So yes it needs to be broken in…

wish you would have called me ...you CAN remove the spring in the unit if you want less pressure. They arent adjustable but they can be removed . oh well. Also, the height is a personal preference but you are comparing the effort with a stock unit that is like you said close to an inch taller. I bet if you put one of our race knobs on it you would also get the leverage you want. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWp-rrtslcW_dLQ.html

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

MGWINC thanks for responding. I wish this information was available prior to me removing it, I would’ve loved to have given it a try. I actually liked the height with the MGW better versus stock, but I’ll be sure to post an update on this.

@tcolley

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Ashton respectfully, I'm surprised you didn't think to call MGW for a new spring with a different tension. After 30k in upgrades to my R, the MGW is by far my favorite

I wanted the MGW exactly because it requires intention to shift to second and fifth... Makes intentional shifts, which is the critical thing imo.

Does anyone know if the mgw has the same issue on the mt82?

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Jason Byassee it’s not necessarily an issue it’s just how their shifters are designed with stiffer springs.

@jasonbyassee7541

4 жыл бұрын

I’m more into cornering my car than drag racing. I was considering getting a shifter down the road. Mine is pretty decent in factory form. I know mgw makes a great shifter but I don’t want to take a step back with an “upgrade”

@HeyHayden917

4 жыл бұрын

This shifter is flawless if you buy the race spec and not x spec. I’ve had my mgw race spec on my 16 GT since 10ish thousand miles and currently at 39k. Yes it’s stiff and tight the first few thousand miles, but it’s butter smooth after those first few thousand.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

SpringfieldXDs9 mine was stiff the entire time unfortunately.

@clarencerandall9202

4 жыл бұрын

Weighted shift knob will correct all those issues!!!!! Love my mgw and my weighted shift knob!!!!!!!

I don’t understand why you uninstall the MGW . Its so fantastic to shift

I went with hurst shifter

You lost your leverage with the shorter stick, I would have tried a temporary 1-3" extension to see if it solved your downshifting problem. If it worked you make a permanent extension.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

RD you’re spot on with that. I didn’t think of that side of things, but the lost leverage paired with the stiffer springs made it feel like I couldn’t accurately control my downshifts.

You do know you can remove the spring from the shifter right?

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Khalismatic well gee, that’s obvious now that MGW responded with a video. The information was not available previously and should have been provided when it was purchased.

@want2race441

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffAshton yeah O was going to say the same thing. You can adjust the spring tension. Mine (MT82) is too weak, so I'll adjust it stiffer. Plus, go back to a longer shift arm. Better for road course.

And here is a quick video showing how to do it... kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWp-rrtslcW_dLQ.html

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

MGWINC would’ve loved to have given this a shot beforehand, thanks for posting the video.

um, you must be weak AF. I have a MGW on my s550 and it's not any harder to downshift or rev match. It's stiffer than stock but NOWHERE as bad as you are making it out to be

Seems like MGW just made a response video to you and your baby wrists. Looks like you took it out prematurely when there was a solution available. I drove a 350R with the MGW and loved it, it's actually why I bought mine. Oh well you done goofed.

@JeffAshton

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob R. Doty I didn’t goof, there was no information anywhere about removing the springs. Glad your “baby” wrists are stronger than mine. I appreciate MGW responding in a respectful manner, you, not so much. Here’s a few questions - Did you drive that GT350R on a track? Did you heel toe downshift while braking from 100+mph? Lastly, where would I find the information about removing the springs besides their recently added video?

@CobraR726

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffAshton I have a 2020 Shelby GT350 and installed the MGW. I open track all over the US and have no problem with down shifting with toe heel. Sorry. I completely disagree with you.

hit it with your purse next time.

God, the more I think about it the more I realize you have no idea how to drive on a road course. There is zero need to quick shift unless you don't know the track or are correcting an error in judgment.

Bozo