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  • @Phagocytosis
    @Phagocytosis Жыл бұрын

    0:00 Introduction 0:24 Plagued Grain 2:53 Bonedigger Geist 3:30 Necrotic Mortician 4:01 Meat Grinder 4:47 Blightfang 5:14 Unholy Frenzy 5:41 Ymirjar Deathbringer 6:29 Tomb Guardians 7:43 Grave Strength 8:58 Possessifier 10:14 Nerubian Swarmguard 10:38 The Scourge 11:03 Stitched Giant 12:15 Overall thoughts 13:48 Unholy DK decks 16:12 Conclusion

  • @Supercris25
    @Supercris25 Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the inevitable "Triple Unholy DK" to be the SSS-Tier deck immediately when the expansion comes and come back to this video.

  • @kirgizikable

    @kirgizikable

    Жыл бұрын

    HE HE HE HAW

  • @Noobie2k7

    @Noobie2k7

    Жыл бұрын

    The deck will be some bs like us stockpiling 20+ corpses by turn 8 and theb just playing Lord Marrogar as the only corpse spender.

  • @thomaswayne1852

    @thomaswayne1852

    Жыл бұрын

    Or after the mini set

  • @AnacondaHL

    @AnacondaHL

    Жыл бұрын

    Same, but 2 Unholy 1 Frost. It's yet another aggro/tempo deck that Trump can't evaluate.

  • @ImfrAfreak

    @ImfrAfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    Demon hunter moment

  • @eisgnom7383
    @eisgnom7383 Жыл бұрын

    Something tells me that the ymirjar once had the effect of resummoning itself for three corpses

  • @akoskovacs6830

    @akoskovacs6830

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that alone would have made this archetype at least viable.

  • @m_ism
    @m_ism Жыл бұрын

    Unholy cards are going to be my favorite cards to generate in my 3 frost or 3 blood rune deck.

  • @maximal99334

    @maximal99334

    Жыл бұрын

    Jokes aside 2 Blood 1 Unholy looks like a quite promising deck.

  • @TimoRutanen

    @TimoRutanen

    Жыл бұрын

    So far I think all the rune card generators have required a rune to begin with.

  • @m_ism

    @m_ism

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimoRutanen yeah but the neutral discovers can get any runic requirement card

  • @TimoRutanen

    @TimoRutanen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m_ism If that is so, then definitely!

  • @caylebeneteau4468
    @caylebeneteau4468 Жыл бұрын

    “I’m not gonna spend 4 mana for 2 annoyotrons.” And like that, all of a sudden I think this cards is good. Giggling mechanic flashbacks.

  • @jeremiahsmith8499

    @jeremiahsmith8499

    Жыл бұрын

    Giggling Inventor. "Hahaha, hello, hello!!" Yes I also have PTSD from that card lol

  • @wobbu8587

    @wobbu8587

    Жыл бұрын

    I had the same thought. Generates sticky minions that generate corpses when/if they die!

  • @rajkanishu

    @rajkanishu

    Жыл бұрын

    first card that came to mind was Cold Case tbh

  • @MDoorpsy

    @MDoorpsy

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a brilliant point. That card still saw some play at 7 mana, and was broken at 5.

  • @rafidifrancesco7956

    @rafidifrancesco7956

    Жыл бұрын

    Also worth noting your corpses are refunded if you do spend 4

  • @CountVine
    @CountVine Жыл бұрын

    I think that the unholy cards are being undervalued in this review as they are being evaluated in a zoo style of deck. In my mind, the Unholy DK is closer to that one weird iteration of token druid that kept filling the board in mid/late game, until one of those stuck and got buffed to hell and back.

  • @kaik.9497
    @kaik.9497 Жыл бұрын

    I think what you missed with "Unholy Frenzy" is the fact that it also generates 1-3 extra corpses for you depending on your boardstate. I think that makes the card much more valuable. your reborn minions would even get two extra corpses each in the right conditions.

  • @BrendanBeckett

    @BrendanBeckett

    Жыл бұрын

    The thing is those cards wouldn't even be very good if there were no corpse cost to them, they'd just be okay.

  • @guacopera259
    @guacopera259 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate you referencing WC3 with some of these card reveals, it's always sorta sad to see some HS streamer just have no idea the significance of any of the flavor of these cards.

  • @shadooklaw
    @shadooklaw Жыл бұрын

    It feels like the 3 unholy rune deck is more of a token-combo deck using stuff like Denathrius, Marrowgar, and Bloodlust, while the actual swarmy decks will be 2 unholy 1 frost.

  • @CeilingPanda
    @CeilingPanda Жыл бұрын

    Will be SUPER interesting to see the starratings as the deckrestrictions on runes makes that very non intuative :D

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it’s probably very easy to miss something. No way that the power of all the different variations with varying decklists in every combination can be predicted accurately without seeing it in practice

  • @charlespfister6240
    @charlespfister6240 Жыл бұрын

    I like that they aren’t going to insane with the first set. I can see a lot of these cards being very powerful in the future with some more support. This feels like a good baseline.

  • @ktktktktktktkt
    @ktktktktktktkt Жыл бұрын

    I think you're overestimating the cost of a corpse. You actually have some decent tempo cards as well as cheap/efficient corpse generators in the expansion so far. With regard to Ymirjar Deathbringer, at first I thought it was just harvest golem +1/+0 and deathrattle +1/+2 and there was no way that was good enough. On further inspection, that's actually quite a significant buff on 3 mana and if you look at currently played 3 drops, the pool is actually quite mediocre. I think it could definitely see play. Possibly Trump is just underestimating aggro in general? He knows token druid because it's good in the meta right now but he hasn't looked at the individual cards in depth. The deck runs freaking mark of nature... Not all the cards need to be super premium.

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    But we just had an expansion full of cards that cared about friendly minions dying. Yes, you needed to draw the cards first, but still, it’s possibly way too expensive and even if it isn’t the payoff doesn’t seem worth it. I mean the cards need to at least beat the current average power curve by a significant margin so people have any reason to play death knight, like with Demon Hunter back in the day.

  • @jaeusa160

    @jaeusa160

    Жыл бұрын

    I think there is a lack of recognition with some cards for their corpse refund potential. Like the Ymirjar refunds 2/3 of them ultimately, and we will need to see if the card's own Corpse comes before the Deathrattle or not. Probably not. However 2 Unholy Runes seems like too much, and 3 is just unplayably bad. It's a significant deck commitment and there are too many good cards we've seen so far on 1 Frost and/or 1 Blood.

  • @Konstamonsta

    @Konstamonsta

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Icetea-2000 there is a huge difference between "i need to have a card in my hand and then need stuff to die" and "i can topdeck any card whenever and it will get the benefits"

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Konstamonsta Well sure but the amount of minions still need to die.

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaeusa160 A corpse is a "resource gained WHEN a friendly minion dies", a deathrattle "does something WHEN it dies". It’s the same wording so it might go either way honestly. It probably means that it doesn’t work because the resouce is gained and can’t be immediately spent in the same action, but I hope it’s in favor of the corpse mechanic so it doesn’t have yet another thing going against it.

  • @leeartlee915
    @leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын

    So think about infused cards. Those have to be in your hand when minions die to do anything. With corpses, it’s just stuff dying, including stuff that’s be re-summoned. And their hero power is “make a dude, he dies no matter what”. So I think a better way to think about corpses will be “you will have corpses. What do you want to do with them?”

  • @foggy9900

    @foggy9900

    Жыл бұрын

    generally the non-infused card is ok and the infused version is op. it seem the non corpse option is below average and the corpse spending version is just average

  • @baconeko

    @baconeko

    Жыл бұрын

    I think trump’s main point in the video is that “what do you want to do with them” is way too weak, as the corpse spender cards are only mildly above average if you do spend corpses.

  • @daniellucas5522

    @daniellucas5522

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@foggy9900 That's kind of delusional tbh. 3 mana 6/6 is not average. 2 mana 3/4 (or 3/5 for battlefield necromancer) is not average. 4 mana 8/6 is not average. 4 mana permanent bloodlust in a token deck is not average. 5 mana 10/10 with rush is not average. Marrowgar is not average. You don't need to include every source of corpses in 3 unholy decks - the number of minions you summon and generate will make corpses plentiful. I think plagued grain is probably a bad card as a 3 unholy card, but everything else is very strong. Some of the unholy cards don't suit the 3 unholy archetype and are there to fuel corpses in other rune combos.

  • @so0meone

    @so0meone

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baconeko So Trump's main point is something that isn't true?

  • @baconeko

    @baconeko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@so0meone Not saying I agree with him as he has a huge bias towards value (lol) but I do see his point, current token druid and implock seem better in comparison.

  • @ezariogerion3138
    @ezariogerion3138 Жыл бұрын

    I'm betting the Unholy DK will be carried to the top on the shoulders of the Sir Denatrius.

  • @athath2010

    @athath2010

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many games will come down to "gee, I sure hope Sire Denathrius isn't at the bottom of my deck!"

  • @chutindrachodi4764

    @chutindrachodi4764

    Жыл бұрын

    @@athath2010 Taelan Fordring

  • @duplexubiquitary
    @duplexubiquitary Жыл бұрын

    Tomb Guardians gives you all four of the corpses you spent on it back... Also, for 5 mana, summoning 2 Annoy-o-trons has been pretty backbreaking in the past.

  • @alexisconnect2970
    @alexisconnect2970 Жыл бұрын

    love the matching song to the holy theme at the end, a very nice tuch

  • @Icetea-2000
    @Icetea-2000 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder why bonedigger geist wasn’t a 2/3 that gains +1/+1 instead

  • @m0002856

    @m0002856

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah no idea on that on either. Most of the time, class cards that are meant to be played are like either overstatted (3 mana 4/4), undercosted for their abilities (2 mana 2/2 with a stronger than normal effect like discover a card), or they're vanilla stats with some kind of conditional text that makes them even better (2 mana 2/3 that gains 1/1 if you meet a condition or SECRET AGENT COMING THROUGH are both examples of vanilla stats with a conditional effect that makes them better than vanilla monsters should you meet the conditions). I don't know too many cards that have been printed in a while that are like... worse than vanilla stats for a condition that makes them slightly better than vanilla stats as their only effect.

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m0002856 yeah true, these kinds of better than vanilla stats are like… great in old dragon priest of 2015 or something but nowhere near today

  • @DeaddMax

    @DeaddMax

    Жыл бұрын

    Or having rush like the Rogue card that requires you to have a stolen card. Plain 2 mana 3/4 is not good enough these days.

  • @TimoRutanen

    @TimoRutanen

    Жыл бұрын

    They probably designed it upside down. That is: 'Hey let's make a 2 mana 3/4 with a corpse cost!' 'Yeah, it can be a 2/2 without it to really incentivize using those corpses!' 'Good idea mate, everyone's going to use them anyway so this is really a 3/4 all the time' Nobody stopped to think if the 2 mana 2/2 is actually too bad to put in a deck.

  • @Icetea-2000

    @Icetea-2000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TimoRutanen I mean they are right that a 2 mana 2/3 is not really something you want to play but it still matters what your plan B is in case you don’t draw a 1 cost minion in this case. A 2 mana 2/2 is super horrible in comparison

  • @kanegregory5779
    @kanegregory5779 Жыл бұрын

    I think you're missing the point that Unholy isn't good at spending corpses specifically because it is good at making them. That then encourages you to blend it with other rune types to make use of them. Marrowgar is presumably the reward for going all-in on Unholy so that you actually have something worthwhile to spend them on (if you spend them on other things, Marrowgar is less effective himself). Not saying that makes Unholy "good", just pointing out that the lack of good ways of spending corpses is likely intentional

  • @PaulSyd

    @PaulSyd

    Жыл бұрын

    so you're saying that the 3 unholy rune cards are not meant to be played by design?

  • @kanegregory5779

    @kanegregory5779

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PaulSyd No, I'm saying that Marrowgar is the big payoff for them. In future sets we may even get more big payoff cards in triple undead. I just don't expect to see great payoffs at 1 and 2 runes

  • @mastermike7000
    @mastermike7000 Жыл бұрын

    4:48 THE GIANT ENEMY SPIDER

  • @discoepfeand
    @discoepfeand Жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate these videos, thanks!

  • @wheresmyshield176
    @wheresmyshield176 Жыл бұрын

    When DK was announced : *this entire meta must be purged*

  • @ImfrAfreak

    @ImfrAfreak

    Жыл бұрын

    Like demon hunter lol

  • @Ironpecker
    @Ironpecker Жыл бұрын

    7:27 Kind reminder that we were spending 5 mana for giggling inventor and later on she was nerfed hard. Ofc it was partially because of quest rogue, but she was still pretty good in many decks (including odd rogue). To me the card feels quite strong

  • @520_metal

    @520_metal

    Жыл бұрын

    Giggling inventor was unconditional

  • @32Singder

    @32Singder

    Жыл бұрын

    @@520_metal i bet you will have 4 corpses on turn 4 19 games out of 20 - peasant and body bagger give 2, plagued grain already covers you, some other minions give you corpses It seems very easy to gain 4 on turn 4 if you are unholy

  • @Mene0
    @Mene0 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the reviews Trump

  • @allexsilveiraalbuquerque928
    @allexsilveiraalbuquerque928 Жыл бұрын

    can't wait to play it, my expectations are high af too

  • @innerfire2399
    @innerfire2399 Жыл бұрын

    We need the same rune deck-build synergy for other classes, this is so cool 🗿

  • @JorgeGalarza1990
    @JorgeGalarza1990 Жыл бұрын

    I think you are missing something important, is that the minions created by the cards don't have the key word "risen" so they dying stock up the corpse again, which os different from the other decks

  • @OvenGlobalDomination
    @OvenGlobalDomination Жыл бұрын

    I love this rune type

  • @kushaiah12
    @kushaiah12 Жыл бұрын

    Good edit.

  • @runtergerutscht4401
    @runtergerutscht4401 Жыл бұрын

    Blightfang also has the incredibly useful effect of giving you a minion when the opponent dies. This has no real application but it may be the first time that a hero gets a deathrattle

  • @megablaster00
    @megablaster00 Жыл бұрын

    I think the community isn't actually getting the "corpse tax" well, frost is the most difficult rune to get corpses, so it's corpses effects should feel powerful, while unholy generates a lot of corpses all the time, so it's corpse spending effects are like baseline (because they actually are). Corpse spending changes from rune to rune people are wanting death knights to be overpowered, while the devs kinda knows what that situation could bring after dh and are being more cautious

  • @AlphaEthanS
    @AlphaEthanS Жыл бұрын

    5:49 does the corpse that the ymirjar deathbringer gives off triggers before or after the Deathrattle condition. What this means is that if you have 2 corpses and deathbringer dies do you get the corpse so that the Deathrattle condition is completed

  • @PhazonDude
    @PhazonDude Жыл бұрын

    Appreciated.

  • @ethanarndt6359
    @ethanarndt6359 Жыл бұрын

    Have to remember all these cards that consume a lot of corpses to get a not to good buff, also generate alot of corpses back into your corpses pile inherently. Like Tomb Guardians, if you have 4 Corpses' to give them reborn, you will be getting all 4 of those corpses back by the time they die 4 times. Unless I am mistaken in how I see Reborn and Generating Corpses work. I am assuming a Corpses is generated on death, and they die 2 times each. Generating 4.

  • @jessesutton7985
    @jessesutton7985 Жыл бұрын

    So, these are the base set cards for Death Knights, correct? The cards that are meant to be sort of the first crumbs of the DK themes? 10:20 With the gift of future knowledge, turns out blood is the hard buff tree. Still two more reveals for the day and already 3 buffers, 2 +2 attack, one +2/+2. Those spiders are looking a bit more practical. For unholy, maybe the expo cards are going to need to flush out one or both end of generating/spending but so far I personally like how it looks. Generate many corpses early, manage health, try to spend 10 asap for free golems then keep making bodies until Marrowgar shows up to turn them into giant boys. Likely going to need t-2 more cards on each side to make it feel consistent. Seems like generators are alright, but then I like 4 mana summon 2 2/2 reborn taunt so wadda I know? So far this set is actually tempting me to play again. Most likely wont. But it's been a while since I was tempted.

  • @maximal99334
    @maximal99334 Жыл бұрын

    TrumpSC enters chat TrumpSC: There are no good corpse spenders in Unholy Lord Marrowgar enters chat TrumpSC leaves chat

  • @maximal99334
    @maximal99334 Жыл бұрын

    10:34 "There is no handbuff" Well that aged poorly fast XD

  • @maximal99334
    @maximal99334 Жыл бұрын

    I had the opposite reaction. I had low expectations for Unholy, but after seeing the cards Unholdy could end up being my favourite.

  • @Maalithian
    @Maalithian Жыл бұрын

    Honestly hyped to see blood revealed. Renathal! vamp blood, reno control deck. Gonna be nasty.

  • @chutindrachodi4764

    @chutindrachodi4764

    Жыл бұрын

    Just the casual 50 - 60 HP hero

  • @kookookookookookookoo
    @kookookookookookookoo Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like we're going to need more deck lists again

  • @parak00pa
    @parak00pa Жыл бұрын

    I think one thing you need to keep in mind is that every single DK minion is automatically +1 in terms of value due to generating a corpse, so summoning a bunch of them would probably get out of hand quickly. That being said I do agree that these cards feel underwhelming, which is not necessarily a bad thing, given that I already dread facing a frost DK. I'm a-okay with them not having like 7 powerhouse deck types.

  • @freeman37
    @freeman37 Жыл бұрын

    One could say "There is only darkness" until the miniset for Unholy.

  • @WillyTung
    @WillyTung Жыл бұрын

    Unholy Frenzy seems really good if it can also resummon enemy minions.

  • @insomniacnerd5592
    @insomniacnerd5592 Жыл бұрын

    Feel like I’d want to use Blood runes for the corpse spending, and Unholy to generate the corpses. Just how I feel.

  • @BonesMalon3
    @BonesMalon3 Жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to blood episode

  • @Axelovskji
    @Axelovskji Жыл бұрын

    I think trump forgets that the Ymirjar Deathbringer (1/3) and Tomb Guardians (4/4) slightly or entirely refills the corpses spent since the creatures have taunt

  • @novaglacial9779
    @novaglacial9779 Жыл бұрын

    I kind of agree that some cards are very underwelming, for me the tokens of the 3 cost spell could be 2/1 and the tokens of the 4 mana spell could be 3/3, also anti-magic shell could give +1/+2, that is when you compare this cards with cards from other classes but i think Unholy DK doesn't go for a full board aggresive style. I think the idea of Unholy is to build a small army of tokens and when they die use the corpses with Dead bride or Lord Marrowgar and then you have the free giants and the cherry of the top being Denathrius, you could even run Sylvanas and more Infuse cards. Maybe Unholy is a more Midrange oriented deck with the potential to go full aggro.

  • @fritos1445
    @fritos1445 Жыл бұрын

    I havent played in a while so not sure of the current power level of cards. These seem pretty insane to me so I can only imagine if people are disappointed in them that the current meta cards are absolutely crazy lol

  • @ImfrAfreak
    @ImfrAfreak Жыл бұрын

    Unholy frenzy is so good. It’s just a better devouring swarm

  • @engladtur
    @engladtur Жыл бұрын

    I think it's so easy underestimate how easy unholy DK probably will be able to generate corpses such that every card is almost with the bonus on top, which will be very strong if true. Time will tell but sure seems like it also just to fit the fantasy of the endless army.

  • @praetorxak5361
    @praetorxak5361 Жыл бұрын

    I think its a lot easier to get corpses than you think. Most of the cards that spend corpses generate corpses as well once the things they create die.

  • @nickchaput219

    @nickchaput219

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't think it's hard to get corpses. He thinks it's hard to spend them in unholy decks.

  • @benvangelderen6753
    @benvangelderen6753 Жыл бұрын

    I mean, at 7:04 , it really doesn’t cost any corpses because you will generate 4 more. Still seems weak.

  • @candycastle3194

    @candycastle3194

    Жыл бұрын

    You still need to save up 4 corpses by turn 4 if you want to play it on curve

  • @ROTMGmimighster

    @ROTMGmimighster

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah considering Druid doesn't run 3 mana summon two 5/5's It doesn't seem very good.

  • @deadlykitten6232
    @deadlykitten6232 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe they're undervaluing the corpse effects for Unholy since they have such an easy time paying for the effects? That's how I look at it at least.

  • @Rathial
    @Rathial Жыл бұрын

    Shoulda had a high costing corpse explosion spell that was like spend all your corpses deal 2 damage to a random enemy for every corpse.

  • @Michael-cb3uw

    @Michael-cb3uw

    Жыл бұрын

    Good card that every deck could try to fit in and run like sire denathree us

  • @NVFerost

    @NVFerost

    Жыл бұрын

    Dealing direct damage that can hit face is frost's identity, not unholy's. Corpse Explosion already exists as aoe in blood that does eat corpses. Seems like the day 1 theory that unholy will be better splashed in other decks than as its own thing will probably hold for early DK builds.

  • @daniellucas5522

    @daniellucas5522

    Жыл бұрын

    there is, it's blood runed.

  • @Nocron99

    @Nocron99

    Жыл бұрын

    thats basically a faster lord marrowgar, which i think theyd rather go the slower route because theyve been trying to emphasize minion based combat these last expansions. corpse explosion would probably lead to solitaire style combo decks that are unfun to play against

  • @josephtrowbridge1707
    @josephtrowbridge1707 Жыл бұрын

    I hoped dk could be a contender to denathrius druid but really you have to run two frost just to "make sure you go second" so you can kaethus bran daddy d. You get a few good 1 green cards but the double frost generally doesn't line up with daddy d it just doesn't seem nearly as good as druid and trying to skip the "biscuit" I don't know where that leaves you. I think it's one strength compared to druid is it's not so weak to the minion destruction blood dk got.

  • @deathsride1818
    @deathsride1818 Жыл бұрын

    Definitely some hot takes on these card. These are far more powerful than you're allowing

  • @Crawver

    @Crawver

    Жыл бұрын

    The issue is the conditional nature of them. They're requiring a large amount of corpses, meaning you need to have had enough things die, or a good corpse generator, before you play them. These aren't things you can guarantee in what looks like a zoo deck. And so when draw out right, you have some really powerful plays. But it's going to be far too inconsistent it seems to be great.

  • @rpan1738

    @rpan1738

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Crawver deck seems to rely on plagued grain to be any good

  • @Crawver

    @Crawver

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rpan1738 pretty much. You get a plagued grain or two in your opening hand, and you're probably set. But the fact that it does just eat up all its' corpses so fast, for not that much, means that unless you get the corpse generators your deck really is bad.

  • @Hawkster52
    @Hawkster52 Жыл бұрын

    It seems fairly obvious that the Unholy archetype has two different approaches: The first is the swarm deck where you want to get as many things out there as possible, play cards like Grave Strength and win the game. The other based on the number of taunts is going to be a grinder deck where you use taunts to generate as many corpses as you can and then use big threats or generation to slowly grind out the win. And I doubt the cards are going to cross over between those two archetypes much at all. A card like Nerubian Swarmguard's only purpose is to draw the game out as long as possible. It's not an offensive threat at all and it won't get trades but it's there as a wall the opponent has to deal with to get to *you*.

  • @johncargille7722
    @johncargille7722 Жыл бұрын

    Yo tomb guardians give you the corpses back. That slaps

  • @ignacioperalborey4174
    @ignacioperalborey4174 Жыл бұрын

    One question these cards are for the basic set rigt? or are these the cards for DK from the new set?

  • @Trox9996

    @Trox9996

    Жыл бұрын

    The card library on the Hearthstones site says which set eah of the card revealed so far are on But tldr: Blightfang and Meat Grinder are expansion cards, while the rest are Path of Arthas or Core set cards.

  • @MageMinionsOP
    @MageMinionsOP Жыл бұрын

    Ymirhar costs 3 upfront corpses but don't you get refunded 2? Doesn't seem that bad considering undead decks are generally gonna aim towards zoo. The big problem I see is it needs to get that turn 1 grain card to get the deck going but if it doesn't it might struggle.

  • @Emperorhirohito19272

    @Emperorhirohito19272

    Жыл бұрын

    You get refunded 1

  • @hellfrozenphoenix13
    @hellfrozenphoenix13 Жыл бұрын

    Two thing i want to point out: Unholy having too much generation and not enough spenders does make Marrowgar a MUCH more intimidating card. Getting 10 plus corpses by then seems very plausible now. But also, it allows much easier design for future card reveals, as you have the main generation there, so its about "what makes spending corpses appealing?" Rather than "does this fix the generation ossue that leads to corpses being useless as a resource mechanic?" So id rather too much regen and not enough spending than the inverse.

  • @alexanderfisher7261
    @alexanderfisher7261 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't malignant horror generally better then tomb guardians, one more corpse for +2 health on both minions?

  • @Icetea-2000
    @Icetea-2000 Жыл бұрын

    Tomb guardians is supposed to be one of the payoffs for having corpses and the payoff is the ability to generate more corpses?

  • @Nagassh
    @Nagassh Жыл бұрын

    I think some of the cards are better than you give them credit for - 3 man 3/3 Dr 3/3 doesn't seem so bad when it refunds 2 of the corpses it uses, especially if the first death counts as a corpse for it's own deathrattle. That said, the 3 unholy rune cards feel underwhelming. Plagued Grain is great if you draw it on turn 1, if not then I feel it's losing heaps of value. The corpses it gives may be redundant if drawn later since you'll have played out and had other minions die. I'm not convinced it and Marrowgar are worth locking yourself out of dipping into other runes for card draw. A corpse bride + stitched Giant and potenitally AMS swing turn seems more frightening than Marrowgar.

  • @ploppman7524
    @ploppman7524 Жыл бұрын

    Hope some more "spend up to _ corpses" get revealed. Doesn't feel great that so many of these cards have such strict costs.

  • @PokeCrafter02
    @PokeCrafter02 Жыл бұрын

    So far with the cards revealed. Idk how good blood rune cards are gonna be but the optimal deck lloks like either 2 frost runes and 1 unholy or blood or just 3 frost runes

  • @gwenmh
    @gwenmh Жыл бұрын

    I think people forgot Malignant Horror was a card? It's not in any created lists at the end and churns through corpses like butter. Also, let's be real: a deck that can fairly easily drop a zero-mana 8/8 on board by turn 5 is cheating plenty.

  • @johnbrodish
    @johnbrodish Жыл бұрын

    I feel like every reviewer of the unholy cards is forgetting that Sire Denathrius and infuse mechanics were just released in the last expansion. Unholy can easily leverage that, dump minions on the board, then close out with Denathrius, gaining tempo with other infuse cards along the way.

  • @Neirean

    @Neirean

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems the rune system is heavily distracting them from this fact. This review seems INCREDIBLY off to me - why on earth is Trump valuing each individual corpse so much? Has he read the hero power?

  • @AZ3rgling
    @AZ3rgling Жыл бұрын

    The play with triple unholy is go full control and build up ton of corpses then finish with marrowgar

  • @DemagogueBibleStudy

    @DemagogueBibleStudy

    Жыл бұрын

    Triple unholy has basically no control tools.

  • @lorenzolombardi3369

    @lorenzolombardi3369

    Жыл бұрын

    soulstealer has entered the chat

  • @IIEstevaoxII
    @IIEstevaoxII Жыл бұрын

    I feel like "The Scourge" is a reasonable card, but it would actually be better if it wasnt Legendary, it reminds me "Anyfin Can Happen", and I remember it being a really decisive card for Paladin

  • @TheWisharts

    @TheWisharts

    Жыл бұрын

    Omg I forgot that card existed and now you have brought all the memories of it inflicting pure pain and making me lose games D:

  • @MrToullaf
    @MrToullaf Жыл бұрын

    Dose 4 mana cultist 4/2 in standard? He should fit in pure unholy deck

  • @28kadsendrinks33
    @28kadsendrinks33 Жыл бұрын

    What is the outro song called?

  • @philipooi94
    @philipooi94 Жыл бұрын

    Seems like a 3 unholy deck just relys on SireD. Thet can't make it too strong or the deck will just wreck. Unholy seems like a great splash in other specs though, most probably those are stronger.

  • @SheyD78
    @SheyD78 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the unholy decks are bad, if they'll buff them by lowering corpse spend requirements? ( I feel like the zombies was 2 corpses for reborn initially)

  • @eduardourasaki
    @eduardourasaki Жыл бұрын

    no Anti-Magic Shell in the decks? sounds like a good card in a minion dense deck

  • @Isaac_Holger
    @Isaac_Holger Жыл бұрын

    6:38 Michael Jackson, is that you?

  • @pietrogiovannicastelli7513
    @pietrogiovannicastelli7513 Жыл бұрын

    Nha unholy underreted,all the neutral infuse are good in this deck

  • @TheFirstGroudon
    @TheFirstGroudon Жыл бұрын

    It looks like unholy has lots of corpse gen, so it’s corpse spend is worse and then maybe you also want to spend more corpses for potential better effects on late game cards

  • @odins1337
    @odins1337 Жыл бұрын

    you didnt show the new Gargalon card

  • @arturom31
    @arturom31 Жыл бұрын

    I have one question: if you play a card that generates corpses on another class, what will happen?

  • @kuhansuppiah4372

    @kuhansuppiah4372

    Жыл бұрын

    Classes other than Death Knight cant generate corpses as a resource. So the cards are never as effective in other classes.

  • @gnammyhamster9554
    @gnammyhamster9554 Жыл бұрын

    I think you're gonna have a lot of corpses if you're playing a swarm deck, so it's unlikely you're not gonna have enough for the corpse spenders.

  • @Justkidding277
    @Justkidding277 Жыл бұрын

    Plagued Grain is 4 corpses immediately and another 4 corpses over time.

  • @HORSEMASTER-ud6sp
    @HORSEMASTER-ud6sp Жыл бұрын

    I think it's a mistake to think that Unholy is going to be aggressive, it looks a whole lot more like a midrange list that's shooting for some really strong turns utilizing the corpse from 4-7, with some sparse top end to go over the top in similar match ups. I feel like most of the player base was baited into using every single applicable rune card in a deck running said runes, but I reckon the system will work more as a way to specialize general archetype deck shells. I'm excited regardless though!!!

  • @Test-iv4pm
    @Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын

    Can you have Plagued Grain and Battlefield Necromancer in your deck? I thought deck was limited to 3 runes total.

  • @jeremiahsmith8499

    @jeremiahsmith8499

    Жыл бұрын

    They're both unholy cards. If your deck has 3 unholy runes, you can run any unholy card you want, including Plagued Grain and Battlefield Necromancer. Nothing contradictory about that.

  • @Test-iv4pm

    @Test-iv4pm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jeremiahsmith8499 Oh thank you. I thought this was considered 5 unholy runes.

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens Жыл бұрын

    Why would you use plagued footage?

  • @Lumisist
    @Lumisist Жыл бұрын

    Why is Kripparian in the picture? 9:37 Is that a Trump's joke?

  • @chaosae3143
    @chaosae3143 Жыл бұрын

    For bonedigger, doesn't your hero power turn 1 make a corpse?

  • @KraylebStudios
    @KraylebStudios Жыл бұрын

    Death Knight cards are getting more and more bonkers

  • @qwerty11111122
    @qwerty11111122 Жыл бұрын

    Tomb guardians is 4 mana giggling with the corpse count, isn't it?

  • @Zhon66
    @Zhon66 Жыл бұрын

    I think Trump might be over-focused on the corpse tax. I think any Unholy deck is going to be generating so many corpses that the corpse spending is basically free, and could even be argued to be an upside with Stitched Giant. When you have so many cards that generate 3 or 4 corpses by themselves, on top of the hero power, I think corpse spenders can be looked at sort of like Manathirst - by the late game, you absolutely will have more of them than you know what to do with.

  • @A-MONGOOSE
    @A-MONGOOSE Жыл бұрын

    blood rune sweep

  • @parachase7467
    @parachase7467 Жыл бұрын

    Remember that undead include minions from past expansions, so you could get some old understatted stuff

  • @mms4382
    @mms4382 Жыл бұрын

    I want to spend 4 mana and get 2 Annoy-o-Trons!

  • @lingo4375
    @lingo4375 Жыл бұрын

    I think Deathbringer is actually solid, doesn't seem hard at all to meet the requirement for a 3/3 that summons a 3/3 on death. Not gamebreaking but solid.

  • @Blightblues7
    @Blightblues7 Жыл бұрын

    "Don't be a sucker, don't play unholy" Those are fighting words

  • @zombos22222
    @zombos22222 Жыл бұрын

    12:56 the old classic neutral cultmastercard for 4mana 4/2 also let you draw a card for each dying minion, just costs 1 mana more as alternate way, so you can keep all 3 unholy runes, there are also other good ways for drawing cards, example: famished fool draw a card 5mana 3/5 infuse 4 draw 3 cards. infuse should be no problem with all this undead minions around.

  • @blahthebiste7924

    @blahthebiste7924

    Жыл бұрын

    "Just 1 mana" is enough to take a card from powerful to mediocre. And it's not just 1 mana difference, it's also 1 stat point.

  • @zombos22222

    @zombos22222

    Жыл бұрын

    @@blahthebiste7924 do you play this card for the stats or for the effect? and ofcourse its just a alternate for beeing a full unholydeathknight.

  • @viva_la_biba
    @viva_la_biba Жыл бұрын

    Building an arena deck for this class is gonna be pain

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Жыл бұрын

    Oooo bone digger geist is gonna be good in even DK if it's real

  • @LlorracTN
    @LlorracTN Жыл бұрын

    giggling inventor was broken at 5 mana summon 2 annoy-o-trons. trump is seriously undervaluing Tomb Guardians

  • @ExOTiC1234
    @ExOTiC1234 Жыл бұрын

    Its so on brand for Trump to underrate the swarmy aggro archtype.

  • @Watdee
    @Watdee Жыл бұрын

    We already know that Infuse can be very powerful. Even if you ignore Unholy cards, DK already has -- by far -- the best hero power to pair with Infuse. Unholy makes that even better. Without Infuse, this first round of Unholy cards might seem a bit weak, but you have to keep in mind that these cards will never live in a meta that doesn't also include Infuse. If they were any stronger, we'd be seeing nothing but Denathrius in every match for the next 15 months.

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