I demand a demonstration video of you painting a figure/vehicle/? with these under-painting concepts! And by demand, I mean PLEASE? I thank you for all that you do for us.

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Hopefully I'll be able to do that at some point. Thanks for watching!

I absolutely love how you break everything down for those of us who are new to to the medium! Thanks a bunch! 😁

You are the Bob Ross of miniature painting :)

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

That's a great compliment! Thank you, and thanks for watching!

Airbrush is Cheating! So is using Brushes! Fingerpainting is the real thing!

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

+Michael R. But I have really big fingers. Thanks for watching!

@C861986

7 жыл бұрын

Michael R. mine look like they've been finger painted....

@HarleyAssi

7 жыл бұрын

Kirk Bushell Ouuu.. Nice burn!

@carbon1255

7 жыл бұрын

nails only sculpting! must have produced material too! poop! Fingerpainting poop.

@HarleyAssi

7 жыл бұрын

Dang... U Artsy Gangster...

I feel like I just attended an art class back in college. For the last two years I have been painting miniatures just for the enjoyment of painting. I really don't intend to play, giving life to the metal and plastic characters is just therapeutic for me. Gonna attempt under painting on Wulfrik the Wanderer after I finish the current mini. Thank you, I have subscribed and I don't subscribe to many people either :0)

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+CronusandRhea ZeusandHera Thanks! I find that underpainting is underutilized by most people starting out in minis painting. It really helps with your colors coming out as you intended. Thanks for watching!

@CronusandRhea

8 жыл бұрын

No problem sensai.

Way better tutorials than gw. Watched six in a row and loads of ideas!

Love watching your vids, but would be nice to see what your talking about like the comparisons between hot and cold on models in a split screen style Other than that love the videos

@LoftOfTheUniverse

4 жыл бұрын

+ 1!

Sir, You are a God !!! These are seriously prof'l tips. Thanks so much for sharing ! Also, the wet pallet one...

I've been binging your videos all day today, and I have to say that I am so glad I came across your channel. I'm just now getting into WH40K with my girlfriend (I'm T'au, she is Necrons), and we have been kinda scared to just jump into building and painting our Start Collecting sets and have been testing color schemes and techniques on some Space Marine and Ork units we got from a friend. You give fantastic advice and have boosted my morale with jumping into this. Thank you for the wonderful content.

Thank you, for the tips. I've been painting for past ten years. and have been trying push myself to next level of Miniature Painting. This video has given me some good ideas of how to do this.

I just painted 151 various minis for DnD in 35 days using the method of priming in black then white from above and relying heavily on Daler Rowney Acrylic Artist Inks. This technique works. Thanks, Atom!

Superb tips there as always, many thanks. Just watching these makes me want to get my paint box out again.

I've been painting my own minis for over 25 years. I still learn new things from different people all the time. I just found your videos and look forward to seeing more of your technique.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+Cat Samurai I agree! I'm always learning new things, especially from KZread. Thanks for watching!

Great video. I learn way more than just pre shading from this one video!

I can confirm exactly what you said about Secret Weapon Washes being intended for glazing and coloring over shades or each other.

This is enlightening! Gonna have to think a bit more before I start painting my necrons purple over their black base.

This is something ive wondered about for a long time. thank you so much for explaining it.

Exactly the video I needed to watch. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

Your tips are very informative, heres to my first attempt at miniature painting since I was a kid going well!

This reminds me of a friend whose "hero" characters were always primed and undercoated in gunmetal or silver paint. It made the character sort of seem to glow, and really helped them stand out a bit more on the table. Also did it with a Necron army before painting normal colours over them, and they came out still looking mostly metallic even though there wasn't a single metallic paint used on the top layer of the model.

Only discovered this video today. Wonderful insight which I didn't know. Love your channel!

Light from above, Azimuth priming, very good. Listen to this fellow, he knows his stuff :) Another good video.

So, so helpful. So, so standard, easy language to understand for us non-art people. Thanks!

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I always try to explain things in a way that make sense to me, so I'm glad when other people tell me that they get it, too. Thanks for watching!

i watched this video several times and showed it to a couple of friends who also paint. very good explanation. would give this video two thumbs up if i could.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+AzuriteT3 Glad it helped, and I hope it helped your friends, as well. Thanks for watching!

@strawberryturtle8978

8 жыл бұрын

+AzuriteT3 You can give it two thumbs up. Just log in with another youtube account and slam that thumbs up again.

Wow, the old video and this mic has a real Bob Ross feel to it! I love it

Thank you very much, this is just what I was needing.

One of the best and most informative videos for hobbyist painting. Thanks mate!

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+k rad Thanks for the high praise, and thanks for watching!

Very informative. Thanks for making this useful video.

I have just started painting miniatures and would love it if you did a video on some basics, simply putting down thin layers. I can't seam to do it without leaving obvious brush mark's. My friends taught me how to dry brush, however now that I am starting in the hobby I am starting to look at glazes and more of a wet brush. I enjoy your attitude towards the hobby, keep the video's coming.

Great vid Atom! Your Av video level is fantastic man. Merry Christmas!

Very cool and informative! I'd not gotten that far along into thinking about these sorts of things and you already cleared up a great deal :D

Solid explanation of techniques more people should know about.

My daemons of Nurgle are primed white because the base colour I use is 6 layers of shade put over one another (2x camo, 2x green, 2x yellow). This I can only do if I use white primer, I tried with Death Guard Green primer but it's just not the same. So I depend on the base color for my entire colour scheme to work. Great video that most certainly clarifies how to properly use base layers!

This reminded me of a course I took some years ago about the Flemish Old Masters techniques. The main reason was that back then colour pigments were very expensive (sme made from ground gemstones). So they first painted a monochrome picture using just Burnt Umber and White. (both cheap pigments) using about 5 or 6 different shades. The result was a realistic Sepia picture. They then applied the precious colours as glazes and washes over the top. For an example look for "The Girl with a Pearl Eari9ng" by Vermeer. The same applies here and you could paint a full 3d looking miniature using only black and grey o Brown and white and finish as you stated in the video.

thank you for these videos i have been painting models for a few years and your videos have shown me the way to becoming a little bit better.

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Every little bit helps. Thanks for watching!

I discovered your channel last week when I was looking for videos to put on while painting my new Emperor's Children Kill Team. Since then I have been binging on your back catalogue. :) I was thinking which video to comment on to tell you that I am really enjoying your channel and thought to post on this one since for the first time in the 20+ years (with long breaks during that time) that I have been painting minis, I am finally understanding the under layers of paint and getting great effects from it. Sure, it takes 3 different shades of gold over Army Painter Plate Mail to get something to "look gold" but that is the effort I need to put in and the different shades I need to buy to get the effect I am finally happy with. The much younger, frugal me didn't understand that idea very well.

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're enjoying them, and I'm glad they've helped. Thanks for watching!

Thank you for sharing your wisdom.

I like your idea of airbrushing over a black primer with a light color. I will try that on my next model. Thanks!

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't come up with the concept, I learned it somewhere else. I just wanted to teach more people about it. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the tips. I stumbled onto the first type of underpainting for lighter flesh tones and (to a limited degree) metallics in my early painting days, but without any understanding of the underlying theory. I'd never thought of using grey to underpaint white though, and I'm definitely going to try it the next time I paint white.

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Thanks for watching!

Good explanation, there are good advises in that video to improve the painting. Merry Christmas!

Thanks for your contribution to us painters. Really appreciate it.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your appreciation. Thanks for watching!

Great vid mate very informative! keep up the good work and a merry christmas to you

Great job as per usual, I'd like to suggest folks to refer to the blood rage box set tutorials (search blood rage painting guide) on KZread. The painter does a very good job of showing step by step how you take a model and shade and highlight the models, then use thin paints to expose quick gradients...

First video I've seen by you and I'm brand new to miniatures but that was a solid and in-depth video. (I subscribed) Thanks!

Thank you thank you thank you!!! I normally paint using the first technique you mention, but I decided to try the shading on my Shadow Captain Korvydae model and I honestly think it's one of the best I've done.

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

Pre-shading is a great technique and can be a heck of a time saver, as well. Thanks for watching!

This is the best of the best concerning this subject :)

It makes sense that you preshade models to get correct and realistic lighting effects, after all that is a classic oil painting technique for portraits (start with full greyscale shading of people then topped with layers and glazed layers of thin translucent skin tones), it’s what gives oil paintings their beautiful depth and realism.

So wait you are talking about contrast paints but how they work and prior to 2019 ... And this is why I am subbed because you understand colour theory more than the GW chemists.

I found these tips very useful, thanks!

Nice video. Really made me understand basic build up colouring

Really glad I found your channel, you got some great ideas I haven't really explored before that I now hope to try out soon.

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help, and thanks for watching!

Great tips, thanks for the video.

Nice vid, thanks for sharing!

Great vid, very informative!

Trying to get into the hobby, I always thought washes/shades are the last thing to do! Thanks for the insight!

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

+ignitedxblaze Glad to help. Thanks for watching!

I just got my first Warhammer 40k model (Chaos Terminator Lord). I've mostly been doing 1-3 piece models but not this one is much more complex, probably around 15 pieces. I'm having trouble deciding if I should put it all together then prime and paint or do it in sections. From the video it looks like you put it all together, base and all, and prime it and paint it. Love the channel, learned so much from you.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+Lambtron I rarely paint my models in parts. I usually put them all together and even do the texture basing before I prime the model for painting. The only time I paint models in parts is if they have big shields (if you've seen my recent Chaos Warriors or Varanguard models) then I paint those separately and glue them after they're all done. Thanks for watching!

You are professional, thanks for teaching me... So helpful... Your fan .. Upstate New york

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!

If you are like me you almost certainly will have spare figures from kits you bought. I use these for experimenting with colour schemes. So here is an exercise for inexperienced painters to get a feel about what Uncle Atom is saying. Get 3 figures in the same pose, (I have a bunch of DE for this). Then undercoat one in black, one in grey and one in white. Then paint all 3 figures with the same colour on top. Red is a really good colour for this exercise as it is really hard to get it to show at all on black and shines like a Christmas decoration on white. If you don't want to do it on figures just use some cardboard. There wont be the same shadow effect of a raised surface but you will still see the impact of each undercoat.

Helped me very much with my men of numenor with the gold on black

you should do an update of this video and expand on these ideas and what youve learned about them

I dont even play warhammer but I like your voice, it's relaxing.

Thank you for sharing!

Really amazing info. Thanks for that. Subscribed

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Thanks for watching!

Great video. I am just about to star using airbrush and this was quite eye-opening. thanks!

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I was able to help. Thanks for watching!

I'd love to see your comparison between these Secret Weapon Washes and GW's new Contrast paints.

I'm going to try this for sure. Particularly now that the GW white primer is more of a light grey.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

It's a great technique, I think. Good luck. Thanks for watching!

Hi. I've recently tried using warm/cool light/dark colours at the pre-shading stage rather than straight up black and white. I've found a chocolate brown base and burnt orange zenithal highlights underneath lead or pewter drybrush finished with silver edging can make for quite a convincing rusted steel.

@tabletopminions

5 жыл бұрын

I usually sponge-paint my rust effects over my metallics, but both ways work. Thanks for watching!

Just catching up on some of your old videos. I think the term you are looking for might be zenithal highlighting (Instead of pre-shading). Where you base all in black, then 45 degree in gray, then white from the top. Then paint thinly over those bases so the highlights and shadows can still show through. Sort of quick and dirty highlighting.

@auto1nfanticid3

5 жыл бұрын

do you know of any other good videos about this? I need to see more examples to wrap my head around it.

I find with any metallic, if you undercoat with silver first, it gives you a very bright and very metallic finish

good explenation :)

@questingadventurer7158

7 жыл бұрын

GirlPainting no problem thanks for watching!

@micahwerdel8711

6 жыл бұрын

GirlPainting So what under paint should I use with green painted over gold? What should be between both? I want to make the green pop out well. :)

You're right about the washes -- also thank you for the bump :)

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

No problem, I love those washes. I swear, I'm doing a 'The Real Use for Secret Weapon Washes' video soon. Thanks for watching!

Just started painting... I was struggling so much with black primer! painting leather over it never worked. Going to try this. Thank you!

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

I hope it helps. Thanks for watching!

thanks for the information!

You just improved my painting ten fold

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to have helped. Thanks for watching!

Nice video, thanks! Do you also have tutorials on preshading vehicles? I also use this technique for my mini's

Adam ... relatively new painter here (2 yrs). I have never done the underpainting technique, but just read about it online and then found this video. I am very intrigued. I happen to have some black primed figures that I haven't started painting my traditional way (building up layers of paint, washing, highlighting, etc.) that will make excellent candidates to try this out. If I go with glazes for color (which is what you called a wash, I think), I think I'll get very similar results to what you're talking about in the video. Fortunately I have an airbrush so this won't be hard to try. Thanks! BTW, maybe an excellent tutorial for Sam as part of your pro painting series. I'd love to see a step by step here. :)

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+MisterMannIndy It's a great technique, I use it almost all the time. If you look at the post-Apocalyptic figures in the cover image for my KZread channel, they were all done that way, too. Thanks for watching!

@MisterMannIndy

8 жыл бұрын

+Tabletop Minions Adam - personally, I'd love to see how you do this in a video. In case you're looking for video topics :). Once you get the miniature underpainted, you just "paint as normal" but use a glaze instead of a full on coat of color? I am going to give this a shot. I suspect this means a bunch of very thin coats, eh? How many coats of glaze do you normally apply?

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+MisterMannIndy I generally go by eye, but it's frequently a few. It depends on the look and tone I'm going for. Thanks for watching!

Preshading or zenithal highlighting is a great way to cut down painting time. The difference between a rattle can and an airbrush is pretty much night and day though. Once a person gets the hang of it, they can crank out a finished fig in a little over an hour!

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

It's true, airbrush is usually better than rattlecan, but you can get some pretty interesting effects even with rattlecan. This spring (if it ever gets warm again) I'll try to remember to make a video about quick and easy rattlecan techniques. Thanks for watching!

@MacAttack001

10 жыл бұрын

I hope my comment didn't come off as being some airbrush snob. Really enjoy your videos and look forward to seeing more!

@tabletopminions

10 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, I love my airbrush, but rattlecan effects are pretty interesting, too. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the tips love your videos they're so helpful :)

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. Thanks for watching!

"I am priming in black, almost always" Glad to see that it is just not me then!

This is actually hilarious. I watched a lot of videos you talking about mini tabletop paining, but actually never seen you actually paint.

@tabletopminions

4 жыл бұрын

I do paint in some of my videos, but I feel it’s usually better to explain a technique and then get the viewer to try it - the viewer learns more by trying than by watching. It seems to have been working over the last six and a half years. Thanks for watching!

great video! thx

Wow, found your channel while looking for a how to make a wet palette. You have a lot of great advice here, I've subbed. Really liked this underpainting video. You mention you use an airbrush. Do you have any videos on how to use or better yet what to look for when buying/getting into airbrushing? I've never used one, but I'm interested in maybe starting.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+James Tonkin I don't have any airbrushing videos yet, but I probably will soon, as I get asked about it a lot and I think it's an important tool that painters should consider. Thanks for watching!

If only I had known this sooner.. Ulthuan Gray (GW*) on Celestra gray (base) takes ages as well and it's near impossible to get it right. Good video :)

this may be your best vid.

To paint white on black, I like to put a coat of silver over the black. I find silver is opaque and covers completely with a thin layer. White on silver comes out as a nice bright white.

Another method I have been using for pre-shading is to prime the figure black, then dry-brush white. Use a small amount of paint in the brush and you can usually get all the proper highlights set with two or three passes with the white.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I could see that working well. Thanks for watching!

Very good tip thanks

Thanks for a good tip.

Great video. I just subscribed.

BRILLIANT!!!!

Hey Uncle Atom. Compliments on the great vids. Like to listen to them when painting miniatures. Question: What is that female model in the thumbnail? The one with the hammer? Thanks, Bruce

Love the video. I alwase paint my orks whight and just use gw camo shade wash for the skin. If they need it i also dry brush niblet green with a nother shade of earth shade

"Preshading" reminds me of ambient occlusion in 3d modeling

This is going to be a game changer for my painting! Thanks! Have you ever tried pre-shading a black model (ie. Blood Angels Death Company)? How about shading/highlighting with colors other than black or white before laying down a basecoat or wash?

@tabletopminions

7 жыл бұрын

When I painted my Black Templar, I primed black and then dusted from above with dark grey. Then I added a brown wash over that, which was very subtle. It worked out well. Thanks for watching!

there are things such as cool toned red, or warm toned green. Depends on how much blue or yellow pigment is in said colour. Makeup teaches a lot about warm, cool and neutral tones in colour. colour is fun.

Love the videos! I am trying your gold underpainting technique, but would you still use the sephia wash on something as small as the shoulder pad trim of a Plague Marine? It seems like a really small area for a wash. Any advice?

@tabletopminions

6 жыл бұрын

I would. It’s a small area, but the metallic will make it draw the eye. Plus, Plague Marines should never have clean-looking anything. Thanks for watching!

So if I was looking to prime in a lighter colour, would you recommend priming with a light grey and using white to give the pre-shading? Or is there another preferred approach when dealing with a light primer?

This is great

I totaly loved this! Recently I did some 'gold and obsidian' Egyptian God minis as contouring practice. I had a hard time getting the gold to cooperate with me (citadel desert and a light gold from Vallejo) and now I know why!!! I almost want to strip the things and re do it but I like the contouring too much lol. Ps. How do I stop my white from getting chalky?

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+Wendigo Nasty If you're talking about the white overspray getting chalky, I'd not worry about it too much. It's kind of standard, and since you'll be covering it with paint or glaze, you won't notice it as much. Thanks for watching!

@madtabletopgamer3204

6 жыл бұрын

If you prefer to paint white , make sure you use lots of water, go over the details with a thin layer of light grey and a thin layer of white.

I find that most of GWs base coat paints go rather well onto most other colors with maybe two layers. But for their layer paints then you definitely need an undercoat of something else to get the right shade.

@tabletopminions

8 жыл бұрын

+Magnus Ludvigsen (TheAurgelmir) I've never compared the densities of the base colors to the layer colors that GW makes. I should look into it. Thanks for watching!