The Gen3 Fall Story has characters, content, and action. It’s a true theological message. But, it has the serpent’s content which was a lie. Stories can have in them true thing, false things, all kinds of actions, told in different ways. The Fall Story is one of them. It’s truly theological in what this story is saying. But it contains a lie from the serpent. So, how do we talk about this story as inerrant? What sense is it inerrant? Is the serpent’s lie inerrant? I’d say no. But the serpent and lie told is part of a story that is inerrant. How do we talk about all this?

You are welcome to make such a statement about the Bible. However, you need to have some credible/ historical evidence to support your claim. Scholars who make the claim that the Bible is reliable and historically accurate do so with credible/ historical evidence.

@RamsinSavra

4 жыл бұрын

Can you present a case that makes you reject the Inerrancy? Of course, after explaining what you mean by the Inerrancy! :)

@jamesbrooks4374

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Fields. Keith asked Dr. Carson what he meant by saying inerrancy should not be used as a scalpel. Dr. Carson is not making a claim about the inerrancy of the Bible. Instead he is making a finer point about inerrancy in general and how not to abuse it.

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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Can we just take one example: “'Anyone who speaks disrespectfully of father or mother must be put to death”. Really? Do you suppose this is an example where scripture is in error with how God is portrayed? This is a false representation of God’s will, now, or at any point in history. It would be irresponsible to suggest that scripture is inerrant on everything it speaks about. We must use discernment. We must stand up for the God we know, not blindly follow all the ink we see on paper. Some of it, yes -- not all of it.

THE BIBLE IS BEST DESCRIBED AS A 10,000 PIECE JIGSAW PUZZLE...THAT IS MISSING ABOUT HALF THE PIECES! If only we had one book that had descended to earth, directly from God, in words we all understood, and it contained only what God wanted for all of us, at all times and in every circumstance! There are more than a few religious leaders, preachers and teachers who try to make it seem like there is such a singular book they call THE BIBLE. Trouble is--no such book exists! What is so often called "THE Bible," is actually a very broad array of many different collections of books, in many different languages, not always containing the same books, which are not translated from the original copies of any of them, because every single one of the original "autographs" have been lost, and all we have are copies...of copies of copies of copies...and even those differ one from the other! OK, so let's say we can at least agree that the original writings were, every one "inerrant." Apparently not! At the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy, that was held in Chicago in October 1978, a very conservative group, came out with a statement declaring what "inerrancy" of the bible meant, and all they did was re-define the meaning of the word "inerrancy" to exclude the 1000s of discrepancies between all the copies of copies of copies of texts that had been discovered up to that time, and they refused to recognize the results of the discipline of Contextual Criticism, the way all legit scholars of antiquity determine what parts of any copy of ancient documents is most likely in accord with the originals and which are not! OK, so let's just say we could agree on what scholars tell us which texts most likely represent the original writings of the bible books...then you have to ask, "Which books?" Today's Protestant Bible, for example, has 27 New Testament books, but before 1807, it had only 26, before the American Bible Society surreptitiously removed the Introduction page to the apocryphal books, like Revelation, which was often added to their printed editions! OK, so let's say we agree on what Protestants thought of as "The" Bible books before the 19th Century. Then how to know which parts of the that Bible represent God speaking to us today, and which parts not? Jesus, himself, said the Law of Moses was given for the hardness of men's hearts, a stop gap measure, not the full and final version of what God really wanted to tell us! OK, so let's say, for Christians, what really matters is what Jesus said, and everything else, such as the Old Testament and the later Epistles, must be interpreted through the prism of what Jesus taught and not the other way around. Well, maybe we're now getting to the heart of the matter...as long as we understand Jesus often spoke in parables, and more than a few times, employed the use of hyperbole, and probably because his real views, had he expressed them openly and unreservedly from the get go of his public ministry, he would have been killed right away, and we would never have even heard of him...so he also spoke as if he agreed with what the Pharisees taught, only to put a little twist on them, as his way of conveying his real positions but only to those "who had ears to hear." Is, then, "inerrancy" the word to describe the process of peeling back all the many layers of trying to get at what Jesus of Nazareth was really driving at and what was, centuries after their deaths, attributed to Moses, the Jewish prophets and writers of the New Testament? Well, how about another term that much better fits what we have to work with--a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle! Depending on what's included (just the Greek and Hebrew or the Latin and other language versions), there are somewhere between 6,000 and 20,000 texts of the Bible, none of them the originals, but copies of copies of copies. So, more than a few people are content to claim one version of this puzzle, pieced together by representatives of one particular religious sect that began when a murderous king wanted to get rid of his Catholic wife that could not bear him a male heir, the King James Bible, is somehow miraculously equal to the original autographs, and every part of it (well, as cherry picked and then proclaimed from pulpits) represents what God says to everyone today. However, if we apply honest scholarship to weed out all the fake pieces someone cut out and added to the box (using Textual Criticism), and do our best not to cram pieces together with others where they, in context, do not really fit (using Contextual Criticism), even though what remains represents only about half of what was in the original box, a pretty good picture emerges...that is, if one is willing to accept that picture for what it is, regardless of how well it compares to or contrasts with the image created by Churchianity! Rick Lannoye, author of www.amazon.com/Real-Life-Jesus-Nazareth-Really-Stood-ebook/dp/B09V4BJ62D

I never understand this guy....other than he seems to never have one...I love the word SCRIPTURE...like it is GOLDEN... COME ON... With all the numerous errors, irregularities, manipulations, etc in this MAN-MADE BOOK it is just the opposite of GOLDEN...What about the MISSING ENDING OF MARK...IS THAT SCRIPTURE...It was added later...COME ON COME ON...All Christians owe it themselves to research this magic book by the HISTORICAL SCHOLARS..and there are many...Then compare it to the CHRISTIAN SCHOLAR COMMENTS and make up their own mind..In my opinion, it is a settled issue..Consider this book man-made literature...but it sure as hell IS not ACCURATE HISTORY FOR EACH DETAIL...

Without error. 😂 What a load of shit! Not only does it have contradictions, but it has maybe the most contradictions out of any written work that’s ever been composed. People wanted to label a book as the word of God and picked the most contradictory book they could find.

@Itzlrigo

4 жыл бұрын

Ok Boomer

@grantbartley483

3 жыл бұрын

I know some appearances of contradictions in the Bible. But I don't know any actual contradictions. Could you give me an example of the most prominent? PS I bet you can't

@tonimccoy9778

3 жыл бұрын

You must be dispational (truly,) to understand the bible..Genesis thru the gospels is to Israel ( old testament)..then Romans thru Philemon is to gentiles..then Hebrews thru Revelation to the Jews

@ionutdinchitila1663

3 жыл бұрын

You mean they look like contradictions but actually can be explained by looking at the context usually

@tonimccoy9778

3 жыл бұрын

Yes..You must rightly divide the word of truth or the bible appears to contradict(2nd Timithy 2:15)..the bible has no contradictions, but contrasts..