Understanding SAFEs and Priced Equity Rounds by Kirsty Nathoo

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YC Partner Kirsty Nathoo gives the lowdown on several different ways to capitalize your company and how those impact founder equity and cap tables overall.
Transcript and lecture slides here: www.ycombinator.com/library/6...
This lecture is part of YC's Startup School, a free online program and global community of founders. Register and join the community at www.startupschool.org/
Chapters (Powered by bit.ly/chapterme-yc) -
00:00 Introduction
3:53 SAFEs
10:15 Post-money SAFEs
14:35 Dilution
22:40 Priced rounds
27:44 Priced round dilution math
41:07 Top tips
42:48 Don't over-optimize
44:08 Conclusion

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  • @chapterme
    @chapterme6 ай бұрын

    Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) - 00:00 - Introduction 03:53 - SAFEs 10:15 - Post-money SAFEs 14:35 - Dilution 22:40 - Priced rounds 27:44 - Priced round dilution math 41:07 - Top tips 42:48 - Don't over-optimize 44:08 - Conclusion

  • @sadidrahimi
    @sadidrahimi2 жыл бұрын

    I really don’t understand how 1) this is free 2) only has 100k views People try to get rich quick following scams but won’t draw their eyes to real content like YC. YC is doing God’s work 💯

  • @ppxppx
    @ppxppx4 жыл бұрын

    the best explanation on the internet.

  • @sikhswim
    @sikhswim Жыл бұрын

    Clearest and most coherent explanation of this I’ve ever seen. Thanks Kirsty!

  • @user-vs6kc6bk8w
    @user-vs6kc6bk8w10 күн бұрын

    One of the best video regarding SAFE

  • @jamiejswagga
    @jamiejswagga4 жыл бұрын

    Great job Kirsty and thank you YC! Keep putting out more of this gold!

  • @mmennote
    @mmennote5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for breaking it down in such a simplistic fashion.

  • @Emmaxson
    @Emmaxson8 ай бұрын

    This makes a lot of sense ❤ Thanks Kirsty

  • @daryaslizh9911
    @daryaslizh99112 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the explanation of SAFe, best I found so far

  • @MegaXerk
    @MegaXerk Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kirsty, my understanding of SAFEs significantly evolved. I always thought SAFEs always get unlocked at the same valuation as the next round but TIL that there can be a valuation cap introduced.

  • @monika615
    @monika6153 жыл бұрын

    Approachable summary for new founders to understand SAFEs, thank you

  • @Shakti_Singh_Om
    @Shakti_Singh_Om Жыл бұрын

    It can't be explained better. thanks Kirsty and YC

  • @JohnOverstreet
    @JohnOverstreet3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kirsty for a great primer on SAFEs.

  • @visioneerdesign2081
    @visioneerdesign20814 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the presentation. Incredibly informative and helpful.

  • @fungisaurs3717
    @fungisaurs37173 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic. Simple and easy to understand! Thank you.

  • @estegy
    @estegy2 жыл бұрын

    Kristy is an amazing instructor ,,, great job

  • @diegooruna1305
    @diegooruna13053 жыл бұрын

    One of the best videos so far on this topic

  • @anssiruuhikorpi5061
    @anssiruuhikorpi50613 жыл бұрын

    This presentation was so good, really help me to understand safe and cap table, etc. Awesome help!

  • @jord9356
    @jord93565 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for articulating clearly, she knows her stuff!

  • @rudeandconfused

    @rudeandconfused

    4 жыл бұрын

    16:10 That's some nice articulating there.

  • @itsmohdiii3689

    @itsmohdiii3689

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rudeandconfused LMAO

  • @charliekaru
    @charliekaru Жыл бұрын

    Excellent work Kirsty.. Totally explained it super clearly

  • @rajinderyadav9250
    @rajinderyadav92504 жыл бұрын

    Kirsty does a fantastic job of explaining how to understand the fund raising process, the fog has lifted. I feel more comfortable about approaching raising capital and need to start thinking about my cap tables.

  • @consommableechographiealge8418

    @consommableechographiealge8418

    2 ай бұрын

    what is the cap in startup and what is the cap table ?

  • @delbertwhitejr.1150
    @delbertwhitejr.11505 жыл бұрын

    A great presentation on how to capitalize a venture, through the venture's life-cycle, and how to drive your capital financing process. YC continues to pay dividends.

  • @isaacm.1461
    @isaacm.14615 жыл бұрын

    Just to echo others, thank you! Great info and great explanations.

  • @henrikcarmel374
    @henrikcarmel3744 жыл бұрын

    A perfect presentation - in proper understandable english. She smiles with her eyes😃 The effects - and dilution potential - of the SAFE concept is finally fully understood.

  • @ledgerfunding9000
    @ledgerfunding90003 жыл бұрын

    GREAT explanations - super helpful!!!

  • @andreach5006
    @andreach50064 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for this video! Really interesting

  • @johnbcollier
    @johnbcollier4 жыл бұрын

    This video is gold. Thank you!

  • @consommableechographiealge8418
    @consommableechographiealge84182 ай бұрын

    thank you kirsty excellent ptesentation, I explained the math sife however I fidnlt catched legal and financial terms, maybe because I am not familiarized with options and stocks or maybe the problem is my weak english but I can feel how much important your presentation for any founder, who know maybe one day I visit YC and you explain all these things in details face to face😊 All my encouragements

  • @sanjeevanand6585
    @sanjeevanand65854 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making life easier. Kirsty Rocks !!!!!!

  • @harpreetgill8024
    @harpreetgill80243 жыл бұрын

    This was incredible. Can we have the excel sheet where this was calculated? Tried mimicking the calculations, got ~305 shares off, so although most of the #s tally, some are off in last few decimals. If the original is available, can reverse engineer to see where I went wrong?

  • @DarshilPatelMusic
    @DarshilPatelMusic4 жыл бұрын

    Information is a precious like gold.

  • @yasserghazy5297
    @yasserghazy52973 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kristy.... that was really informative

  • @Bigeinla
    @Bigeinla9 ай бұрын

    Best explanation on SAFEs. Thanks

  • @dopeinsights
    @dopeinsights3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Just closed a SAFE after watching this

  • @cahiker07
    @cahiker075 жыл бұрын

    This was EXTREMELY valuable. Would take an entire 1-day, hands-on, scenario planning workshop on this subject. Let’s fire up Excel on the laptop and model these types of scenarios so we (investors and startups) can get smarter about how equity ownership plays out over time. Has anybody built an app to model these types of scenarios?

  • @thekingstonzone

    @thekingstonzone

    5 жыл бұрын

    Monique Lambert Yes, check out "Carta" scenario modeling. The company used to be called e shares...now called Carta.

  • @jmanoochb2

    @jmanoochb2

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@thekingstonzone Yes, that exactly.

  • @genesisdotre
    @genesisdotre4 жыл бұрын

    18:40 question about the dilution, same here!

  • @swateabeauty8835
    @swateabeauty88353 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained!

  • @AccelerList
    @AccelerList5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video!

  • @ozzyfromspace
    @ozzyfromspace4 жыл бұрын

    What a beautiful explanation 👏🏽❤️✌🏽

  • @MASTERPPA
    @MASTERPPA Жыл бұрын

    Very simple concept to understand.

  • @daviegaming07
    @daviegaming073 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful explanation

  • @afrococonut8018
    @afrococonut80186 ай бұрын

    Extremely great explanation

  • @unankacynthia66
    @unankacynthia66 Жыл бұрын

    Great explanation. Thank you

  • @adrianwilk9368
    @adrianwilk93686 ай бұрын

    This is incredible! Thank you!

  • @zhandosyembergenov1990
    @zhandosyembergenov1990 Жыл бұрын

    Loved the content, thanks for sharing on KZread

  • @PJandBRO3343
    @PJandBRO33435 жыл бұрын

    Great info!

  • @louisliu6488
    @louisliu6488 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Very helpful.

  • @mohdmajid1
    @mohdmajid15 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @sambyksg2011
    @sambyksg2011 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @XiaoLongGungFu
    @XiaoLongGungFu4 жыл бұрын

    That was great! Thanks!

  • @Emmaxson
    @Emmaxson8 ай бұрын

    My take home - Do what you need to do with the money and make the company a success

  • @eduardouribe6426
    @eduardouribe64262 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the information

  • @TilekMamutov
    @TilekMamutov5 жыл бұрын

    @22:40 Why are series A investors negotiating such a large pool increase as a part of the investment in this example? Isn't it better for a company to increase the option pool only as needed?

  • @elijahvdp
    @elijahvdp2 жыл бұрын

    Great presentation. One thing that you didn't explain and that i can't figure out is the option pool increase. How did you get to 1.695M?

  • @streetcred9585
    @streetcred95854 жыл бұрын

    love it!

  • @shawntsou660
    @shawntsou6603 жыл бұрын

    Can some one please tell me at min 36:15 how did option pool increase happen? ....

  • @hemendrakumarvarshney8825
    @hemendrakumarvarshney88253 жыл бұрын

    Good presentation. How much the company is sold should be based on pre-money valuation? This is how the dilution effect on existing shareholders will be known. Isn't it.

  • @andyjbryant
    @andyjbryant3 жыл бұрын

    "ok so this step you're going to have to trust me on" - re new options created... yeah she wasn't joking. The formula for new options created, after doing the algebra, is NO = -TOP.R(OC+NPs)-Vpre(-OAO + TOP.OC + TOP.NPs) / Vpre(TOP-1)+TOP.R where NO = new options TOP = target option pool OC = old common stock capitalisation NPs = New Preference shares created (for SAFE holders) Vpre = Pre money valuation OAO = Old available options

  • @GAMasterMedo

    @GAMasterMedo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm trying to follow along. What is `R`? Can you put in the sample numbers in the calculation from this video into this equation to make it extra clear?

  • @andyjbryant

    @andyjbryant

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GAMasterMedo Sorry, R is total amount raised. I have a screenshot of a whiteboard with all my workings but when I posted a link here it was removed..

  • @elijahvdp

    @elijahvdp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still quite confusing tbh

  • @andyjbryant

    @andyjbryant

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@elijahvdp yeah it is. It’s a bit easier to follow if you could see each step of my workings. TBH I just wanted to validate the ‘just trust me on this’ step from the video and build a model of my own.

  • @elijahvdp

    @elijahvdp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@andyjbryant I totally get it. I was just about ready to contact Kirsty to figure out the details until I saw your post. Thanks!

  • @cooltechchoi9966
    @cooltechchoi99662 жыл бұрын

    Great Job

  • @mdebrahimchowdhury8061
    @mdebrahimchowdhury80613 жыл бұрын

    Good Job!

  • @LECityLECLEC
    @LECityLECLEC3 жыл бұрын

    The last q was good Founder investing: safes or loans to the company? Which is better?

  • @mertdeveci6905
    @mertdeveci69052 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone find the model for the increase in the options pool she talked about?

  • @mirzasaputra7153
    @mirzasaputra71534 жыл бұрын

    When you'll upload the lecturer slide?

  • @Gabebox

    @Gabebox

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta be accepted to see those ;)

  • @SantiagoBasulto

    @SantiagoBasulto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just screenshots, but useful to follow: docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iv_T1kU6ECgptgvEiz6qfuW8RG5s_J616vE3LIG5aGI/edit?usp=sharing

  • @huhdam8518
    @huhdam85183 жыл бұрын

    Could someone please share how we are supposed to calculate that 1,695,000 shares for the option pool increase? I think this is an important part of the calculations we as founders need to consider but it is not being explained.

  • @MLouah-gp9ef
    @MLouah-gp9ef3 жыл бұрын

    Does the note automatically convert into a preferred share or an ordinary share ?

  • @azizmamatov6723
    @azizmamatov67233 жыл бұрын

    I think that the lawyers should present this topic as it is heavily skewed towards rights and obligations and the finance stuff is minimal here - simple arithmetic to explain dilution. I'd really want to understand why 8s the structure what are the alternatives and have someone with deep background and practice on fundraising contracts.

  • @mathieumolas484
    @mathieumolas4845 жыл бұрын

    Thanks YC

  • @xiaopinhaji8701
    @xiaopinhaji87013 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kirsty

  • @bccoleman8678
    @bccoleman86784 жыл бұрын

    What if the options pool never got issued out to employees over time. And the directors decide to cut it back? Would it just get prorate get spread across the cap table?

  • @sapphirequestions6080
    @sapphirequestions6080 Жыл бұрын

    thank you sooo much for sharing your knowledge, extremely helpful. PS : Kirsty you are officially my women crush

  • @AlanDeRossett
    @AlanDeRossett7 ай бұрын

    good explanation Q: How is a Safe recorded if not a debt and not a share represented in a cap table? ie: for Benefit Corp? Typically a Benefit Corp will have a recital on the Stock certificate issued representing the Articles of Incorporation amendment after 2/3rd of stockholders elect to become a Benefit Corp. This could happen after a safe was issued.

  • @calebng9235
    @calebng92352 жыл бұрын

    Can I ask for the calculation of the 1.695M shares increase in the option pool?

  • @hoseaderrick
    @hoseaderrick4 жыл бұрын

    I am lost on how she got the calculations for the shares, I'm getting different figures. Anyone care to help me clear that up?

  • @dedu15
    @dedu15 Жыл бұрын

    Just to make sure I understood: post money the meaning is after raising on priced-shares/Series A?

  • @FahadShah822
    @FahadShah8225 жыл бұрын

    This is the important stuff.

  • @alvinjacobsblydenstein7948
    @alvinjacobsblydenstein79483 жыл бұрын

    Kirsty is the best

  • @itsmohdiii3689
    @itsmohdiii36893 жыл бұрын

    Well Done Kirsty

  • @lucas182512
    @lucas182512 Жыл бұрын

    thank you!!!!

  • @VoltHaul
    @VoltHaul Жыл бұрын

    What happens if one would never have a prices round because the safe money is all it needed to kick off growth on its own?

  • @yunhuang1841
    @yunhuang18418 ай бұрын

    welcome to my team!

  • @afrococonut8018
    @afrococonut80186 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know how she calcualted the new issues option poll of 10 % to be 1.695 M shares?

  • @vincenzochianese2143
    @vincenzochianese21435 жыл бұрын

    Do you guys know what happens to unexercised options in case of an acquisition? Who's the owner of these ones, in case?

  • @mohdmajid1

    @mohdmajid1

    5 жыл бұрын

    If there is an vesting acceleration clause, these will be vested immediately . If not,i do not know what would happen

  • @vincenzochianese2143

    @vincenzochianese2143

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vested by who? If they're not exercised, nobody owns it. Or maybe they're given back to the owners?

  • @UserName________
    @UserName________2 жыл бұрын

    When she refers to “available files with these documents”... “in our website”... what does she mean? In the YC startup founder course program website?

  • @Biz519Whiz_M.K.W.
    @Biz519Whiz_M.K.W.2 жыл бұрын

    Just learned what SAFE is while watching Shark Tank March 25, 2022. I definitely don't want to owe anyone be owned by someone else.

  • @stephanielockett7541
    @stephanielockett75413 жыл бұрын

    thanks,

  • @Soul4Sail1
    @Soul4Sail12 жыл бұрын

    At 22:00 how would you calculate that equity then? You say once equity is given ie; stocks to employees,etc. then you're saying you calculate ie; %85 of the %92.5 remaining? & not from %100 & then how do you treat early investors vs. late in different funding rounds? the original percentage of post-money in that round is locked in & added? it seems in your examples..right?

  • @jiangyou4475
    @jiangyou44752 жыл бұрын

    its post money SAFE. why does the SAFE holder share get diluted after price round ?

  • @adedejijubril8048
    @adedejijubril804811 ай бұрын

    How can I decipher the pre-money valuation?

  • @victora9806
    @victora98065 жыл бұрын

    Hi. I think there is a mistake on shares quantity calculation on min (39:11). new group -> [Options available + Lead investor + Other investor] -> 10%+20%+5%=35% old group -> [Founders + Options Issued + SAFE inv A + SAFE inv B] -> 65% - total issued= 9,250,000+650,000+588,235+1,176,470=11,664,705 Hence new group calculation (post money cap): Options available: (10% / 65%)*11,664,705=1,794,570 (-12 shares in video) Lead investor: (20% / 65%)*11,664,705=3,589,140 (+235 shares in video) Other investors: (5% / 65%)*11,664,705=897,285 (+59 shares in video) Do I missed something?

  • @moj741

    @moj741

    10 ай бұрын

    I believe you are right

  • @randyschwaggins
    @randyschwaggins Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna find a startup that has perfected human cloning. I'm buying it and making the entire business model around cloning this woman and then selling a Kirsty clone to every single startup in the world. It will become a benchmark necessity for companies to have in their team in order to secure investment. YC are already 10 steps ahead of me.

  • @benatiayaniv
    @benatiayaniv2 жыл бұрын

    Super!

  • @badrekb5175
    @badrekb51753 жыл бұрын

    1500 companies .... that's more than a lot. nice presentation

  • @steven871
    @steven8714 ай бұрын

    What date did YC begin encouraging Post-Money SAFEs? Seems it was some time in 2018? is a pre-money SAFE more beneficial to an investor than a post-money SAFE?

  • @ethanwei5816
    @ethanwei58162 жыл бұрын

    YC, could you share the link to the model Kirsty shared at 36:10 ?

  • @FARIKNE1

    @FARIKNE1

    Жыл бұрын

    Any success with getting the model, Ethan?

  • @3nityC
    @3nityC3 жыл бұрын

    After watching still didn't understand is there a software for this?

  • @RainerArencibia
    @RainerArencibia Жыл бұрын

    In the 40:12 frame, Is the company or founder able to buy back the preferred shares sold to investors when the company is profitable?

  • @pzyeon-im8qp

    @pzyeon-im8qp

    11 ай бұрын

    I believe that's a no. Unless investors want to sell their shares and the agreement lets them. When company is profitable all shareholders get dividend after all expenses are deducted.

  • @MohamedOrikat
    @MohamedOrikat5 ай бұрын

    In the scenario of priced round is less than the Cap, Safe investor should enjoy a discounted valuation.

  • @_luka_bagdavadze
    @_luka_bagdavadze5 ай бұрын

    What happens to employ 5% when we go to seed round and sell 10% of the company? Do they still have 5% or their equity gets reduced to 4.5%?

  • @eugenioscafati7328
    @eugenioscafati73283 ай бұрын

    Does anyone has a sheets template to model this?

  • @ivonajavorovic7310
    @ivonajavorovic73102 ай бұрын

    what will be formula for 1% of the companys total share capital for anti dilution provision on weighted average provision, since this formula is not applicable C2 = C1 x (A + B) / (A + C) in my case

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