This is the most useful lecture about understanding and diagnosising the hoarding problem. The first 6 minutes is introduction. Skip until David F. Tolin speaks at about 6 minutes in. We hoarders are not trying to annoy you. Please listen to the lecture and understand how to deal with family members.

@michellee7519

6 ай бұрын

I agree as a person suffering with trauma related hoarding I found this talk to be very helpful indeed . I started clearing out in 2023 . What I am finding is the person who created the problem cannot tackle and resolve the problem alone . I have been trying to for the last 6 months but without any support at all I am still buying acquiring things grrr although not to the extent I was b4 I started clearing out. I will definitely take on board advice in this video and print out the questions and put them up in the house to try steer me keep me on tack. Thank for heads up to skip first 6 mins 🙂

There are lots of excellent points made by David which are invaluable to those considering addressing their hoarding. It would be great to have a video which just contained them as a 'self help video'.

Talk isn’t for hoarders, rather the talk is on educating those involved with individuals that hoard. I wonder has there every been done a study on how long it takes family or friends to recognize hoarding as a disease and to become knowledgeable on hoarding and what works and what doesn’t work, when trying to help. It’s taken me years.

@mo1979ca

Жыл бұрын

True

@Hfsdhjf

Жыл бұрын

if you are hoarding, you lost the 'emotional game' of self managing and life managing.

@mo1979ca

Жыл бұрын

@@Hfsdhjf no it's emotional from past traumatic events. ie from having nothing as a youth or have been in war time when stuff was not available so you traded or just kept little stuff to reuse it. It's not an emotional deficit like you're implying.

@kimlec3592

Жыл бұрын

@@mo1979ca Emotional Distress due to traumatic events...such as loss, ie divorce, violence, death.

Dr. Tolin, thank you for sharing your knowledge and expert advice.

I looked at those pictures of rooms (kitchen, living room, bedroom) and graded my home a “Level Two” out of nine levels of clutter. (Levels 4 and up are indicative of clinically significant hoarding.). I want to have a lovely, “Level One” home, though, so I keep plugging away at it.

Hahaha, this is the perfect vid to watch while I clean my office!

6:38 30:10 . cognitive behavioral therapy might help. 36:06 Develop discrepancy - Are your actions congruent with what you want ? Are your actions creating a life / or a home etc that is the way you want it to be ? 50:40. ABOUT NOT WASTING THINGS : 1:08:50. Possible abnormality in chromosome # 14. .1:13:10 What if they ask you to sell things for them ? 1:14:56. How to help children. 1:15:41. What about an elderly parent ?

My mother had a panic attack when we tried to help her you know she's elderly and we did everything we could to help her she has compulsive personality disorder and she's 86 I was watching something about elder adults that are orders and she starts hoarding in her forties her forties and it really affected us we did everything we could but she fights against everything and everything and she's had accidents and falls And so it concerns us but she fights every tooth and nail she wants to be in total control and it's really hard and it affects us a lot

@poppyflower7873

8 ай бұрын

Punctuation, please.

THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST EXPLANATION 👌🏾 I quit my job bc someone removed my work bag & boots from the 🚚 truck

Thank you so much This is really cool!

but it may adaptive in the form preserving emotional and executive function mental energy.. if you leave clothing on the floor, you are saving mental energy of putting it into a more proper place so you can have mental energy to do other things.

It should be noted that venlafaxine can be very difficult to get off of, once you no longer need it. Paroxetine can have some troublesome side effects, though In general, I consider fluoxetine and sertraline to be safer than paroxetine or venlafaxine. But it has to be figured out with your own doctor.

@rosemarywhitehead438

2 жыл бұрын

That has also been my personal experience.

@KeikoBushnell

Жыл бұрын

I'd say Adderall if the person has ADHD (which they likely do)

Watching an episode of HOARDERS can be reality motivation to maintain a clean and clutter free home..No one has addressed how people will hoard their cars, there's only room enough for the driver to squeeze in..Open the car door and items roll out onto the ground..

I have a question: was hoarding behavior more “adaptive” for our ancestors than it is for us now? After all, people used to actually “will” clothes to their children or grandchildren. And those descendants were glad to get those clothes. But nowadays we have so much stuff that this no longer a reasonable thing to do.

@shibolinemress8913

2 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert, but that certainly makes sense. I get the feeling that hoarding wasn't as much of a problem till after WW1, because most people had to make do with what they could produce themselves or have made for them if they had enough money. So people were happy for everything they could inherit. Besides, if you lived on a homestead you probably inherited the whole farm as the only way to keep supporting the family. In the 1920's, at least the wealthy might have been able to hoard posessions. But then came the Depression and so many people lost everything they had, and again struggled to survive. After WW2 as the family, and society as a whole, began to change, that mentality of saving things to pass on to future generations became less and less useful for many people. My mother, for example, found the bone china dining set my grandmother passed on to her at her wedding to be a huge burden rather than a blessing, but felt constrained to keep and display it just so Grandma wouldn't be upset when she and Granddad came to visit. These are just my thoughts based on growing up in 1960's and 70's America, and more research is needed, so take them for what they're worth.

@aroninsinga1521

Жыл бұрын

​@@shibolinemress8913 Also, before the World Wars, more of the population lived on farms, where there is likely a *lot* of storage space, and if you need to repair something at a critical time or when money is tight, parts from old machines (tractors, trucks) may be a life-saver (or at least that's what our parents told us).

@shibolinemress8913

Жыл бұрын

@@aroninsinga1521 Exactly! Reminds me of the old adage "Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without." My grandparents lived by that.

What if dependant children are living in the hoarder's home? Do they have to wait for child services to remove them, or can other family members take action beforehand? It's horrible when children have to grow up in such conditions!

@mo1979ca

Жыл бұрын

Go help the person instead of making more problems for the person with involvement of authorities. What physical thing have you done for or with the person to help them out of the situation? When a person is saying they are alright I will handle it. They are not alright and they need your help in person.

It seems logical that if there's such a big connection between ADHD and hoarding, that if you knew someone had ADHD, prescribing medicine for that would probably help the hoarding

@katiedotson704

3 ай бұрын

No, it will not. The correct ADHD meds can help a person focus, but the irrational desire to hang on to worthless items is still there.

Watching an episode tonite, where the hoarder is making great strides, while Doc-Boy is frustrated that she IS doing so well. In HUSXmind, she's supposed to be a head case, and she really is not. She just needs to ckwar her house, and for him to SHUT UP!!!

Thanks I tried to help my friend but he wouldn’t let go of 10 year old Macdonald’s paper used to wrap hamburger . Literally garbage! But don’t let it go to waste! One could wrap something in it! When I mentioned germs I was laughed at and called a germaphobe!😂

Listen to your spouse have no problem wanting a cup of bottle caps more than they want you, but don't argue nor judge. Ha!

@rosemarywhitehead438

2 жыл бұрын

did you miss the 'mental illness' part of the story?

0:22:00

If I can't sell it for 10 dollars or more...I will not list it on eBay.

My hoards are clean and organized❤ We live 38 miles from a store, so we stock up on everything😂

@rosemarywhitehead438

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you have spoiled food stored away, along with your junk mail from five years ago, you missed the point.

Easiest thing is to just remove dust and dirt. Even hoarders can classify dust and dirt as trash, and remove what you already know is definitely trash but have been avoiding removing it.

hoarders are deeply narcissistic

@agentin00katz14

2 жыл бұрын

Wth?!

@matej1987

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think so...they are deeply broken and dont seek for attantion.

@lincolnuland5443

Жыл бұрын

A kind of 'I want to be admired and if I have a lot of nice things people will admire me' sort of a thing? I can see that.

@francescaderimini4422

Жыл бұрын

Hoarders are narcissistic indeed! They are filthy and have their children and animals in harms way all the time! They always ask for money when they are broke from the five storage lockers they have at $100 a month each and can’t pay their car payment! I got burnt once! After that I called the Village and let them take over. They found rats in the kitchen and there were small children in the house. Mother didn’t care. The house was worth $500,000.00

@kg6801

11 ай бұрын

Nope. There are people with hoarding disorder that may also have narcissism, but it's by no means all hoarders.

This guy David, is absolutely a joke! First of all we don't need a play by the play of hoarding and what it is a simple quick explanation will suffice. He also puts hoarders down and belittles them! He is the worst on hoarders too! His license should be revoked. I am a hoarder and after I am exposed to him I actually feel like scum. Other therapists find ways to bring up the personal problems and address them in a kind way. Pay attention to his intro, he talks about the weather in a negative light which is fine, he ends on it though, most uplifting individuals who mean well and are here for good reasons, they may say something like that weather really is having a mind of it's own today, welcome and so thankful you all have made it here safe! Instead this horrible therapist says positively then a negative leaving an individual feeling entirely bad after their encounter with this guy. Pay attention he says a lot of good things but always ends speaking of in negative context therefore not being a success at his job he winds up leaving others feeling less than when they come into a session with him I really think he needs new training or get a new job, he is not helping hoarders.