I dated a psychopath for 6 years. He was a personality chameleon. Everybody liked him because he was taking on the personality of everyone he was talking to right away. He was quiet, very polite and he always knew where his read line was with everybody. He was leading a double life for a couple of years. He faked having cancer. He took unnecessary risks and didn’t learn anything. And one thing I didn’t know about psychopath is that they make you feel very sorry about them. He cried a lot at the right time. That’s how they get you. They know how empathy works even if they can’t feel it.

@olikane530

4 жыл бұрын

thats a tremendous insight and from your very own experiences..hope you recovered and prospered..best wishes for you...from the UK ⚘

@darcybarwick3766

Жыл бұрын

Psychopaths are narcissists But not all narcissists are psychopaths

@juneelle370

Жыл бұрын

What’s crazy too is the business world is abuzz with “emotional intelligence” but essentially what they mean by that is learning how to MANIPULATE others using their emotions! It’s great to use actual empathy infused emotional intelligence-but that’s not what they’re Yao get it for

@juneelle370

Жыл бұрын

*using it for (auto correct got me :)

@ST-yc7uj

Жыл бұрын

Sounds alot like a covert narcissist .

one of the saddest things about this is that even very intelligent people can be fooled. That is because most people have been taught to trust others to some degree. Psychopaths have a huge advantage, because they know this. It's so easy to take advantage of others when you have no moral compass.

@jamesandrews568

Жыл бұрын

@dani cali Yep, "nobody would do that". Or believing they made a mistake or dumb error though it was on purpose. And then after giving them the benefit of the doubt too many times it's too late. Though I don't want to experience real EVIL again, I wouldn't erase what it did to my outlook and understanding.

@Medietos

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesandrews568 Hello, I read your dialogue with dani cali here, in a similar sort of boat probably. Have to find a way out and a solution, and it is difficult, since they are many, in power positions and are skilled at machiavellianism. Have you managed to solve your situation or/and got help to heal from it? It sounds as though it has passed. Did you also not get real help or even dedicated interest and believed from friends, family, acquaintances? How did you manage? If you have some ways, thóughts, ideas, advice, please write. I have sought physical and psychical treatment without success yet. I Want my life now.

@explorer0213

Жыл бұрын

We all trust people all through life eg. Doctors teachers your bank police life would be terrible if we didn't trust.

@jamesandrews568

Жыл бұрын

@@Medietos I had meant to respond to you previously and I forgot. If there's anything you need or want to know I can give you my email or you can ask here. I will answer you to the best of my ability and I do have time. It would bother me to know that a decent person needed help and wasn't ok.

@Medietos

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesandrews568 How come you didn't really answer my Qs, if you are willing to? I can't re-do the work in this dire situation which I suggested, there has to be meaning and progression in a conversation. I know some feel suppoerted by any old contact; i don't at thi spoint. If you need spome counselling yourself in order to want to engage in me a bit, please ask. Not that I really can/ should go on helping others now, before I managed to turn my situation away from.....the end of it all.. Maybe you couldn't read my comment again, although they don't usually disappear far down until many have posted and long time has passed... I asked 3-6 Qs.

I encountered so many gas lighting psychopaths I decided to become a loner and live as a basic life as I can. I maybe very bored now but at least it is peaceful.

After years,of teaching prosocial skills to children from early childhood through the 5th grade, especially anti-bullying protocols, we were stunned to learn of peer reviewed, replicated research which showed that for children with antisocial tendencies (bullies or emergent bullies), teaching prosocial skills actually made the children better bullies. This is related to the fact that people who display antisocial tendencies don’t internalize observed emotions in others, but use those observed emotions to try to fit in and appear “normal” when engaging with others, and definitely to manipulate others.

@laurak5133

Жыл бұрын

☠️😭

@jamespeterson2690

Жыл бұрын

Aren’t you in that profession that makes parents give their kids legal meth so they’ll sit still because you can’t figure out anyway to engage them? Tell me please how bullying parents to give their kids drugs is somehow not bullying. Every state in the US has international investments to fund their teachers’ retirements. Do you have any idea if the companies in your portfolio are prosocial or antisocial? I’m guessing most of them are antisocial, and technically could be regarded as serial killers. Are you aware that public school teachers are paid through a government that takes money based solely on the fact that they have guns. And yet you wanna train kids to not bully? Really? Maybe they’re just reflecting what they’re seeing in the adults around them. See, the reason the kids don’t listen to or respect you is because they have a built-in hypocrisy detector. The reason they don’t sit still for you is because they don’t trust you because you’re dissociated and they can see that. The response of your profession to their own shortcomings (“drug the kids”) *is* bullying. I for one would like to hear from people who have holistic and consistent internal moral values, not psychologists and teachers. An integrated person has both of those qualities and can also say no to authority. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that because you entered a conformist and obedience, oriented profession, you struggle with this type of higher-level integration. That’s alright. The struggle to live up to our values is part of what makes us human. My concern for you is that you probably don’t know that there are values involved in what you’re doing at all. For example, it’s fairly obvious that the public schools were used to push women into the workforce so that companies could get a two for one deal on their employee pay. If you want to fix ADHD, which is a cultural problem, you need to go back and fix that mistake. Of course, that would mean quitting your job, but then at least you wouldn’t be living off the antisocial aggression of government bullies. When I was in school being around, my teachers often felt like walking on eggshells. After knowing teachers as an adult, that now makes me wonder if they were all narcissists. Do you see what I mean? Your a basic assumptions (that normal is desirable, for example, or that opinion polls suddenly becomes scientific because a psychologist categorized the responses) are absurd and unsupportable. And somebody really needs to do a deep dive into the antisocial underpinnings of feminist-oriented, professions’ hatred of men. I’m gonna go out on another limb here and suggest that at least a couple of your students are worried about your husband. I’m just basing that observation on my memory of being a kid, but I remember it pretty vividly. That’s probably why I empathize with kids instead of desiring to boss them around and make them conform to my opinion of what an adult should be. They don’t need your eighth grade opinion of what an adult should be. How do I know that you probably have an eighth grade opinion of what an adult should be. The exact same way that you form opinions about people too. The data suggest that if your average you watch 3 to 4 hours of TV a day. The programming on television is targeted to an eighth grade audience, because that’s the average. If you watch commercial TV for 3 to 4 hours because it engages you . . . Just know that your eighth grade brain is finding it extremely compelling for a reason. Why do you think so many shootings happen at schools? For the exact same reason that killer whales go nuts when they’re in prison at Seaworld. And that’s your queue to go, “Oh, he had oppositional defiance disorder.” Because there’s a diagnosis for everything that you don’t like. Well, that’s a pretty nifty little system if you’re an authoritarian, isn’t it? So, unfortunately, the next time the kid goes into a public school to do violence, just know that they’re mirroring what they’re saying in the adults around them, and they’re probably the most influenced by the people they spend the most around of time with, which is their teachers. So, who in the world do you think they’re learning that violence and force is effective from? I would guess it’s probably from the teachers, social workers, and psychologists around them who live off the violence our government does. How can you of all people in good faith, and with a holistic sense of self, accuse others of manipulating people. Next to prisons, I can’t think of a more manipulative system than the public school system. I’m sorry to be the one to say this, but it’s most likely the reason you don’t see the contradiction between your behavior and practice is that you’ve been thoroughly propagandized to accept the contradiction is just normal. And isn’t normal psychology really the problem? After all, what is the normal state of the world? Yeah, not interested in being normal on your terms. From the root comes the fruit. Do yourself a favor and look up “the smile room” on Google then quit your job. And for God’e sake, would you please stop manufacturing schizophrenics and school shooters? (When the kids in your classroom are savvy enough to know that prescription drugs are just operationalized MK ultra, which will be general knowledge in the next few years among young kids, it’s probably time for you to retire. They’re on to you.

@bluecollarlit

Жыл бұрын

Just like on The Sopranos!

@robertdeatrick3391

Жыл бұрын

Generally, everyone tries to fit in and appear normal. I’ve also been both the bully and the victim in childhood, depending on the circumstances of my environment and inner growth (or lack of it). I think there are too many variables in the developmental stages of childhood to use as a determining factor in promoting pro-social behavior or not. Everyone needs social skills, even at the risk of arming potential psychopaths with camouflage. If you are teaching positive behavior in any form then you are raising the bar for all and contributing to their quality of life, regardless of who may choose to manipulate those lessons for personal gain at the expense of others. With compassion and integrity, all we may do is plant the seeds. We cannot know or control if they grow into flowers or weeds.

@followtheciaence

Жыл бұрын

Do yo think they learned it from their parents/family?

I knew a psychopath who would say he saw everyone as either preditor or prey. He also told me he had no idea what it was like to feel fear. He was really good at telling half truths so you could never really catch him in a lie. He told just enough truth. He was completely without empathy and remorse and yet could charm anyone and make you beleive he was the nicest guy on the planet. He fooled many, even local police.

@sunnyboy4553

5 жыл бұрын

My Nomad Live, I know someone just like him. He knows I can see right through him. He's even unconsciously put his hand over his mouth when I had him rattled. He's very quick-witted and everyone thinks he's such a nice guy. He goes to church on Sundays. He's a pathological liar, but no one besides myself ever seemed to pick up on it.

@mrsmucha

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Trump and Stephen Miller.

@happygoluckyh.t.d.4life.739

5 жыл бұрын

well I have to ask, What brought this person to light, meaning how is it that you all know now that he is what he is?

@DWHalse

5 жыл бұрын

Statistics show that 1% of all adults fit the psychopath personality which would equate to approximately 3,200,000 individuals in the US. Interesting thought??

@caroline1425yt

5 жыл бұрын

My Nomad Live - that’s terrifying ☹️

Psychopaths pretend to be a victim of the person or persons they are victimizing.

5 жыл бұрын

If it suits their purpose.

@StefanTravis

5 жыл бұрын

@ _"We decide to become victims."_ Someone who has the freedom to walk out of an abusive relationship, and knows they do, and has the emotional strength to do so... maybe decides. Guess what? That describes almost no one.

@StefanTravis

5 жыл бұрын

@ _"people need to be taught"_ ...and if no one's taught them, it's somehow their own fault. I see.

5 жыл бұрын

@@StefanTravis What I said, was "Sometimes, people need to be taught where they're going wrong" . . . . Where YOU went wrong, was taking part of a sentence out of context, then implying that I was apportioning blame, when I clearly wasn't. You seem to think that teaching someone how to get past a pathological behavioural issue is a bad thing.

@StefanTravis

5 жыл бұрын

​@ _"You seem to think that teaching someone how to get past a pathological behavioural issue is a bad thing."_ Obviously not. Stop trying to derail the thread. The point you're trying to dodge is your glibertarian position that victimhood is a lifestyle choice.

I was locked into a business relationship with a lower level psychopath (he wouldn’t kill anyone but he could drive someone to suicide and then be proud of it). Whatever words came out of his mouth, I always had to be totally aware of who he actually was until I was able to extricate myself from the situation.

@mard9802

2 жыл бұрын

I've met some people like that. They are proud of overpowering others, in fact, they seem to enjoy it. I keep my distance.

@rosiemackenzie5976

2 жыл бұрын

@@mard9802 I have met and confronted a few people like that, that I have worked with, and believe you me they hate you for it. When I did I always made sure I had witnesses so they couldn't twist what I said or they said to their advantage. Afterwards whenever I had conversations with these people they could never look me in the eye.

@amandab73

2 жыл бұрын

I mean that is killing someone.

@lindasapiecha2515

Жыл бұрын

Well done ❤️

@ee.el1n4

Жыл бұрын

That is indirect murder

My corporate psychopath manager at Credit Suisse was a chameleon - one day raging bully, the next innocent lamb and even mentally challenged. But once I saw the rabid animal, he could not fool me for a second. He also lied a lot and probably thought everyone else was lying to him, so he would ask you to prove anything you said.

All those people calling the speaker boring have obviously never been to college.

@Evan-ke2lo

5 жыл бұрын

Well... this is below college level.

@RyLeedepressed

5 жыл бұрын

infinitefreedom8 r/iamverysmart

@FreeSpirit47

5 жыл бұрын

@@Evan-ke2lo This is a Cornell University professor, so, yeah, this is college. College professors are not there to entertain, they are there to teach.

@Medietos

5 жыл бұрын

@@FreeSpirit47 Of course, but one should think a psychologist'd be extra aware of the teaching situation psychologically, how learning is affected by thriving and positive stimulation. Who talks of entertainment?. But good if you are content with it. He certainly seems very amused talking about psychopaths.

@FreeSpirit47

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Johnson I got a lot out of this. Also, my friends & family are doing quite well with their professions using the knowledge from their field of study in college. Most recently, a 26 year old Mechanical Engineer who just started on her career making a 6 figure income with a fantastic benefit package just starting out. It's true that some college grads are less successful. All of the college grads that I know, personally, are doing phenomenally well.

The "Corporate Entity" is the ultimate psychopathic personality. We have been infused with this mindset since birth, via our media and advertising. This is the main reason why I no longer own a television.

@plixplop

4 жыл бұрын

Around 15 years ago my slacker room mate failed to pay the cable and it was canceled. I never found a reason to renew it, he unknowingly did me a favor.

@floridaeagle

3 жыл бұрын

thats a really good comment. i never thought of that but as soon as I read it it rang true. Really good. Thanks!

@kathyborthwick6738

3 жыл бұрын

Goodtohave Inajam same!

@lynncrf

2 жыл бұрын

What is the "corporate entity"?

@michaelpond813

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like trump's problem maybe that's why he has no empathy and no character.

I am a radio producer and I’ve learned a lot about language just through interviewing and editing people talking. People will often repeat something minimum of 3 times before they get out the complete thought or sentence. People will start their sentence 2-3 times before they can get it out right. IE “I…I..I wanted to go…” we rephrase questions often several times before we ask what we really want. It’s very messy. I tend to wait until someone has expressed their statement at least 3 times before I use the audio, it’s usually the best and most concise by that point.

@candecarro

Жыл бұрын

I sometimes wonder how much of interviewees’ studdering is “pretend”: I - I - I , drives me nuts. As well as rhe use of the word “ like” over and over again in speech.

@candecarro

Жыл бұрын

Do you expect to be able to produce algorithms for companies such as Cellebrite for law enforcement to evaluate the written language of suspects in their social media and/or text communications?

@candecarro

Жыл бұрын

How many of your psychopathic subjects were women as opposed to men? How are they different?

@paigerasmussen5212

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this comment. I noticed a long time ago that I do this and feared I must really be annoying people by explaining things thrice when really I'm the one who needs to get it clear for myself. But I don't notice others doing it so... whew.

@cnrspiller3549

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. As a radio presenter myself, I had to practise speaking 'tidily'. Eventually, by slowing down whilst expressing more complex thoughts that were difficult to put into words, I could remove most of my ums and arrs. This had the added advantage of increasing my silence. Silence is powerful on the radio ... not too much obviously. You can control the details of your speech more than you might imagine. I would not be surprised if a strongly motivated, and highly intelligent psychopath could successfully adjust their speech if this research became more well known and used widely to spot psychopaths.

In the ten years since this recording, we seem to have greatly differentiated the characteristics of variants on such disorders. We also have made great inroads into understanding Pathological Narcissism, a trait that gets confused with psychopathy and sociopathy. There also appears to be a difference between psychopaths that murder and those who don't. The under-the-radar populations that are not captive really need to be studied, as they are the people who are causing the most cumulative harm to society.

@dee5331

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said! The US is ruled by undiagnosed cluster Bs who have been killing millions of people collectively for 40yrs UNCHECKED, BOTH PARTIES FOR PROFIT ONLY! The war machine, big pharma, big tech and big banking collectively kill tens of millions of people worldwide! The kicker is that only people with dangerous cluster B personality disorders will refuse to be properly diagnosed and we continue to allow this and elect them into power as a result.

@sue1657

Жыл бұрын

This world was created for good and evil. I got BOTH. GOOD TURNING TO EVIL THEN BACK. I HAVE SEEN IT. GAGGING SICK UN EASY mind games. I'm not sure what category he's even in.

@celisewillis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning this. Psychopaths make up 1% of the population, that's a huge amount! And psychopath children are hell to raise. Any parent's biggest fear should be being burdened with a psychopath child who is fully incapable of loving you back. They statistically end up in prison and/or hurting other people. What a drain on society. Hopefully we can figure out a fool proof way to identify a shriveled psychopath brain in the womb. If we allow parents to terminate pregnancies with Down syndrome, we can allow parents to choose if they want to commit their life to something that can't even muster a house cat level of love for others.

@sue1657

Жыл бұрын

@@celisewillis I would term a psychopath at egg stage lol. Sorry I don't need that type of challenge I believe they are sent from Satan to destroy man

@evelynwaugh4053

Жыл бұрын

Progress in this area is a good thing. I'm often surprised though, by how often con men/women murder, even relatively late in their criminal career, without any previous history of violence, and when there really were reasonable alternatives. I realize that's just a small subset, but I wonder if it's less of a difference than that it just hasn't had to happen yet, mostly due to luck.

I listened as I’m attempting to understand my psychopathic mother who abused me on a scale only a few know. Most but not all of the same applies for a female psychopath. From my experience she’s completely absent of any empathy even for her own biological children, grooms them to be her little brainwashed soldiers to do her dirty work while destroying them in the process almost without awareness of her actions, it comes natural to her. She thrives off of exerting extreme power and control over everyone around her to use for her sadistic and selfish needs as well as material gain. The first time I ever saw my mother cry is when I was 12 years old I told her “no.” She used emotion to try to guilt me into burning down one of her rental houses for insurance fraud. Before I escaped her grasp after 33 years I would have jumped off a bridge if she would have told me to do it. They know how to distort your mind and reality.

@CN-dv9nj

Жыл бұрын

I grew up with the same mother. Her violence physical and emotional was profound, I have DID aka multiple personalities that is not what you see on tv or movies. It's much more of an internal shift in personhood perspectives of someone who carries awareness of specific events and content is hidden from the primary host of this physical body. We are all aware of five or six incidences as they began but with the escalation of the violence fragmenting occurs and I myself have no memory whatsoever of entire acts of harm. .I think that portions of some of us in our system characters have forms of cluster b or ASPD and psychopathy. This woman even planned in the first weeks of my life to make it difficult to prove thatI existed in the first place and secondarily that it would surface in adulthood that I do not exist having no official proof I exist. It did surface, it was devastating and I would have gone to my grave not able to identify what caused what played out EXCEPT that I accidently discovered her crime when I applied for my passport. I'd had a passport s a child as a dependent so the info on me wasn't searched being a six year old. The passport HEAD person was called in to help figure out what was going on. SHE had never filed my birth certificate and intended to cause my death but each time fell short of the mark. I'd like the file charges at this point if I knew how and had the funds to hire lawyers. I've had eight-nine years of therapy to heal where possible. Good luck on your healing path.

@Kometheus

Жыл бұрын

Imagine spawning kids in to have someone to torture. Super psycopathic move.

@MegaTinni

Жыл бұрын

Terrible, but how does this relate to linguistic patterns?

@machida58

Жыл бұрын

@@MegaTinni Hi psychopath!!!

@heidicorzine1208

Жыл бұрын

DBT THERAPY COULD HELP YOU

This was fascinating. Someone who is academically well versed and doesn't only care about presentation, but the substance is tremendously well thought . :)

@NewPhone-vj4sc

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!!

I am sure we are many who would appreciate an updated follow up lecture on this, ten more years into the research 🙏

@asil0072

Жыл бұрын

It's 10 years later now. I would love him to give an updated lecture now!!

@tone1446

Жыл бұрын

May our wish come true :)

@jaspermartin7444

Жыл бұрын

yep

@tone1446

Жыл бұрын

@@jaspermartin7444 I hope they notice our wishes here :)

@alexiswilliamsinc

Жыл бұрын

Gladwell’s Talking to Strangers has references along the lines of this work. I wouldn’t be surprised if these researchers were cited. The most direct overlap here is specifically in the part about how much worse people are at detecting deception compared to AI. It’s fascinating. The whole book kind of messed me up, especially with there being such overwhelming evidence across well-known and unknown cases. Side notes: They weren’t exaggerating about how rare it is to interview prisoners in their work! It also unnerves me how researchers get so used to their topic that they kind of become desensitized, too, when discussing traumatic events. Kind of like how surgeons can go eat lunch right after work, I guess. Finally, back to Gladwell: The questions about application of this research in criminal justice are already seeing some general data. Someone asked an EXCELLENT question about speech disfluencies relating to dyslexia or ADHD around 22:00, I think implying that neurodiversity can be labeled as psychopathy by those who know just enough to be dangerous. Gladwell also mentions people who don’t conform to expectations in communication and end up getting convicted more often when they were only guilty of being socially awkward. I forgot what that term was called, but they don’t sync well - they don’t make eye contact or they seem nervous or guilty, or they joke or laugh at inappropriate times. Anyway, why am I writing like I talk? 🤭 Second-guessing myself: I read Blink almost immediately after so I hope I didn’t mix those books up. Also, based on how many edits I’ve made, editing history might also be a useful consideration in addition to backspacing in social media. If only I wrote like this in my work. 🤦🏽‍♀️

I'm sure most people feel this way to an extent, but I was in a relationship with a psychopath for 2 years. Was the most destructive time of my life and still affects me many years later. Created an intense feeling of distrust in people. It's scary to see that emotionless, completely apathetic human. And still pretty fascinating even when you're the victim

@starrysparkles404

Жыл бұрын

I hope you're safe now 💛. I'm really sorry for what he put you through. A psychopath is very cunning,like a Komodo Dragon or Pitbull. Very sneaky. But hey, you know that. Focus on healing yourself,be filled with relief that you got away in one piece. I'm currently being targeted by TWO. It's awful. Sigh.

@calista1280

Жыл бұрын

@@starrysparkles404 Get Restraining Orders so they're on Police Radar. Arm yourself: Tear Gas, BearSpray, Gun with lots of training and Defensive Arts ie Martial, Jujitsu etc. There are special classes for Womens Defense too! Take no chances and always be aware of your surroundings. Stay Safe! Move if you can ASAP!

@VictoriaWonders

Жыл бұрын

wow yes it is cold af, I am still daily oh and ah-ing about it.

@lalelale9172

Жыл бұрын

I am so sorry for you, if you don't have a coach I would recommend getting a Christian Coach at least for a couple of weeks months, to get rid of the darkness... I ll pray for you God bless you

@diane7912

Жыл бұрын

No soul

as soon as he pointed out the uhms and uhhs i started going crazy noticing every single time he did it.

@Lena-uh3ky

6 жыл бұрын

Friday Night Pizza yes so did I

@lndingalle9605

5 жыл бұрын

Most doctors and Psychopaths and narcissists. There's research on it.

@aprilthetwentyfirst482

4 жыл бұрын

@@lndingalle9605 Hi from France! If you ever would like to share links & information about this topic, many thanks in advance... My best wishes 🌿

@belladonna2824

4 жыл бұрын

Same 😂

@VioletJoy

4 жыл бұрын

I can't stand that. Once he pointed it out, you would think he would have at least attempted to avoid using "uuummmm" and "uuhhh". Ugh!

I can tel you right now , someone close to me was preyed upon like a prey by a man with psychopathy. It started with social media , she liked that he was portrayed as a community leader, involved in many communal activities . She followed his social media page , later on found herself getting involved. She mentioned to me , he gave her a high dose of romance , followed by trails of deceptive behaviors, and quickly formed into domestic violence, life threading events . Police reports and subpoenas discovered he had a history of dv complaints , gun possession , all while hiding behind a business ethical man and community leader

@starrysparkles404

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like he was definitely a psychopath. I've got two in my life who are planning my demise I think.

@drmontano9414

Жыл бұрын

narcisist or low level psychopath.

@Findingtruth569

Жыл бұрын

Same. Worst 8 months of my life. 2 years after I cut him out of my life he shot himself. I felt nothing for him. I thought the world is better off. I can’t believe my numbness.

@antonyka-pra-ra

Жыл бұрын

4 out of 10 people Hello, lacking basic Discernment and a bull shit detector is the real modern day pandemic here. I'm surprised your surprised Its almost like running into traffic

@mackhomie6

Жыл бұрын

@@starrysparkles404 not one, but two psychopaths in your life, and both are planning to kill you? Wow

I just left a relationship with someone who was antisocial and I was fooled. I spent free time studying, reading papers, taking university courses on personality disorders, specifically cluster B personalities and I was still fooled. I think part of it, and why I stayed so long was because it makes me sad that someone is literally incapable of empathy. Sometimes it can be a curse especially in situations like this, but I COULD not imagine not having it. I also believe there is a difference between antisocial and psychopathy as he wasn't charming or goal orientated really, and he did have emotional capacity (had depression, and other feelings). He could show cognitive empathy but not pure empathy on an emotional. compassionate level. There was no remorse also which is scary, For me it was like a cold prison with no intimacy. The one thing I did notice with him was that is that the interpersonal relationship with me was almost like a vulnerable narcissistic - like poor me, im a victim, I love you, but this is your fault x y z, gaslighting, grandiosity. The world owes me or didnt recognize me, But outside of that he was someone who just did not care, didnt really care to much about consequences. Started getting in trouble and going to jail at age 15 and onward. To figure out a name for it really helps (is he narcissistic or is he antisocial) I honestly think its a bit of both but more so antisocial. I am hurt, and the change is causing grief, which I do know now is normal. I appreciate the experience that I got first hand because now I am more aware on a personal level of what these people are like, its really different then reading a book or taking a course. I would like to say to anyone who is possibly in one of these relationships that it is never your job to sacrifice yourself to someone with bad behaviors in hopes of saving them.

@celisewillis

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you went through that. It can take a while to heal ourselves after experiences like this, take care of yourself!

@Pugetwitch

Жыл бұрын

I recently entered into a relationship by choice with somebody who I know is a sociopath, and it's because I'm absolutely fascinated by him. I've never seen anybody project their childhood trauma upon their persona so clearly. He also puts on heavy charm, the fact that he's very tall and extremely buff and very good looking makes it easier for me to talk myself into researching him. Lol. I'm autistic, he gets really annoyed with me. I call him out on his shit all the time and tell him that he's only reacting the way he is because he is antisocial personality disorder and he needs another hit of dopamine. 😫🤣 We understand each other pretty well, however I've had to put him in check momentarily when he breaks one of the boundaries that I have set. Recently he's been pushing my limits more and more, so we have decided to take more space from each other. We have an odd type of respect for one another. I've known him for a few years, but I definitely don't trust him in a lot of different ways.

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

Sorry you had to learn the hard way. But that's the way it is with most things in life. I have been around psychopaths and narcs my whole life unfortunately. So I understand it but it still sucks. Always best to just get away from them. It's kind of hard to tell at first but one clue is if someone is charming and seems too good to be true, they usually are. These people are on a spectrum. My sister is highly narcissistic, but I've also seen her bump up into the psychopathy range. Deeply damaged woman. Highly toxic and destructive, pathological liar, but also very immature and predictable. It's odd how these people have almost identical behavior. Once you learn it, it's easier to spot. But there are so many of them out there nowadays, it's hard to find a nice, regular person anymore. I've grown very distrustful of people after growing up in a family with one psychopath and two narcissistic parents. But yeah they will never NEVER change. You just have to move on and be grateful you got away. No regrets.

@kami10001

Жыл бұрын

Let me help you, so every person who have the anti-social personality disorder is a narcissist, but not every narcissist has the anti-social personality disorder. So he probably has been both yeah!

@forrestperkins6237

Жыл бұрын

I fucking hate my bpd witch ex witch of a woman

I have been dealing with narcs my whole life in my family and if one good thing came out of it is maybe that I am quite good at spotting them pretty quickly. Although it can take time to really get to know someone because they can be pretty good at hiding it. If they don't show interest in your life and talk mostly about themselves, that is one of the first signs. I mean, they may start out talking about you and your life a little bit but it doesn't last long. Also, another thing you might notice quite quickly is an inability to compromise or communicate in a cooperative way. They must feel like they are in control. That is pretty easy to see right away too. Other things that can come later on is their lack of empathy. They can fake empathy and have cognitive empathy but watch how they react to a homeless person, an animal that might need help, or an elderly person. They usually don't notice and if it comes up, they do not want to get involved. They tend to either not work or be in jobs where they can have a high status or level of control or be in the limelight or all of the above. They also lie. A lot. And if you ever question them about something that is a lie or something they did that was wrong, if they do not take responsibility or acknowledge that it even happened or gaslight you, bingo, you're probably dealing with a narc. I have just one more thing to say. Unless you are forced to deal with these people like you have to work with them or you are sharing custody of kids or something, cut them off completely. Don't feel bad about it. They don't care about you. You don't need to care about them. They will never change. And if you are forced to deal with them and you have the money, get a lawyer, esp. if financial stuff is involved or there is any kind of physical, sexual, or emotional abuse. You need help dealing with this, there is no shame in it. ALL of the shame belongs on the narcissists and in fact that is what is driving most of their behavior. A deep sense of shame and inferiority that they try to cover with grandiosity. Be safe out there. Take care. W

@junemoonchild69

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever asked yourself how these people became that way? They were not born this way or that way, correct? So, the only shame is in pointing a finger to one without considering pointing another to the one back of them...and then how much further back? I once heard this kind of behavior called "residue of abuse". ✌

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

​@@junemoonchild69 🤔 I think psychopaths are born. I think sociopaths are made. My opinion.

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

@@sharonthompson672 Very interesting topic. I don't know. The people I know who are like this, I think it's a combination of nature and nurture or lack thereof. I think adults can make a choice about how they treat others. I don't let them off the hook that easily. Yeah, there are some people who are really mentally off, like legally insane or whatever but most of these people aren't, they are just complete assholes.

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

@@junemoonchild69 good point. I can speak from experience on this. yes, the two narcs in my family are my sister and my father. father was beaten by his mother and treated badly and he did the same to his kids, all three of us for the most part. but only my sister wound up a high level narc. i don't think unless someone is criminally insane, they have a right to treat others badly. they have a choice. I have had lots of problems related to the abuse I suffered in childhood but i don't take it out on other people. the "residue of abuse" you are talking about is totally real, i just think people have a choice in how to deal with it, esp. as adults. it is a cycle for sure. maybe some biology in it too. i just don't excuse these people. they are too evil and cause too much damage.

@sharonthompson672

Жыл бұрын

@@wordswordswords8203 I agree with most of what you said. But I don't think sociopaths OR psychopaths are insane, they're just different versions of evil. 👍 I wholeheartedly agree that they most certainly have control over their choices and behavior. 🌹🙂👍

In my line of work, I have a higher chance of encountering psychopaths. When they discuss a crime, particularly when they are caught or arrested, they will distance themselves by pauses and they will also deny knowledge in a calm way, not an emphatic way. They will also blame others for the crime that 'had' to occur. For example, the victim brings it upon themself. Everything is happening 'to them'. They will transform themselves into the victim within seconds. I think this talk should be streamlined a little more to focus on the language and communication, rather than the levels of needs, etc. He also tends to focus on murders, but the highest percentage of psychopaths in our society are those individuals that stalk, harass, commit fraud, etc, but who don't kill people. Not all are 'charming', but they will try to use charm. Psychopaths will not only focus on what they ate on a particular day of a crime, but they will also go into detail about their movements and what they wear on a particular day of the alleged crime or the day prior to the crime. They will use a lot of detail to distance themselves from the crime and to fool an investigator.

@reallythere

5 жыл бұрын

I really liked your comment and would love you too du more. Do you have a channel?

@gmapsakakatieakamarykate3916

5 жыл бұрын

Aka chris watts textbook example

@OrchestralOrg

4 жыл бұрын

*so you're saying psychopaths are biblical.* *biblical, in this sense, means a detailed record of facts. Sorta like bibliography.* *they account for facts in a bibliographic way in order to later present their lies as facts. Their fact-professing agenda is nothing but lying preparation.*

@ryansta

4 жыл бұрын

Really insightful comment,thank you for sharing. In watching Police interviews online recently, i've picked up on and can now understand clearer characteristics you mentioned in certain cases.

@LoveLaw

4 жыл бұрын

Damn I feel like you are describing Jodi Arias to a T.

Watch how people treat the powerless around them...children, waiters, dogs... Best way to spot a psychopath...

@christinebuckingham8369

5 жыл бұрын

Jennifer McClean and Narcissists also

@clintonkinsey482

5 жыл бұрын

Not true, well not 100% true. I have a degree in Criminal Psychology. I've read and I was fortunate enough to meet "Psychopaths" myself. Some (not all) psychopaths dont hurt animals. Some of them consider animals ( dogs, cats, horses etc) are the only beings that they can deal with or understand. I could go on but I think you got the point. Psychopaths come in all different shapes and sizes and they all have different paths in life. Psychopaths are not as easy as ppl think. This is also a very old lecture, at least 10 years if not longer. The science has changed a bit.

@samsongabriel4087

5 жыл бұрын

Jennifer McClean They can be very charming too.

5 жыл бұрын

Waiters aren't powerless at all. Never fuck with someone who serves your food.

@muchtoyearn

5 жыл бұрын

I disagree. Sure, maybe the best way to spot a narcissist. Because narcissists are extremely easy to spot. You don't even have to be in their prescence long. But you're not gonna spot psychopaths this way, and if you think you "spot them", I strongly doubt they're psychopathic.

My very core was decimated by a "Prince Charming" psychopath for about 6 years. Other people call them successful psychopaths. We share a son (who I constantly make sure can emote at age-appropriate levels and shows empathy, caring, connection, etc.). Around the 14:00 mark, Professor Hancock discusses what the psychopath chose to focus on during the day of the murder. The psychopath I was with was a corporate pilot and flew all over the world much of while we were together (until he started stealing large sums of money from his employer and promised to kill me and the kids and dump our bodies in the mountains of the PNW if I ever told anyone what he was doing. I told his boss he was stealing money and threatening to kill us. I tell everyone now.) But what struck me as funny was that during that entire time that he was flying, rarely home, wouldn't really talk about ANYTHING that wasn't something I needed to DO FOR HIM, but the thing he would ALWAYS SEND ME was pictures of his food. When the Professor said that, my mind was flooded with 6 years of pictures of FOOD. His dinners, his midnight hotel snacks, the food on the corporate jet the crews would bring in. Did he ever talk about anything meaningful or substantial or emotional after the love bombing phase (where it actually me talking and him parroting)? No. Never. Exclusions being hatred, that I was "pure evil", or that I was a number of other derogatory words for a woman. Very interesting. I'm very much enjoying this video!

@lindasapiecha2515

Жыл бұрын

Wow mine was a pilot to 😮

@user-ks3mk9kq4l

Жыл бұрын

God bless all the psycho pilots out there

@starrysparkles404

Жыл бұрын

Ya, classic projection. Evil. Yup. He is. They always accuse you of exactly what they're guilty of.🤔

@elijahhuffman550

Жыл бұрын

😂 took a vow 20 years ago I’d never get on a plane! Thanks for validation! Now, I’m more curious about ppl who take pics of food lol, perhaps those ppl are narcissistic instead of psychopathic.

@heide-raquelfuss5580

Жыл бұрын

Geneva, The same happened with me. No substancial conversations, very supperficial. He was working on a ship. Everyday he made food and send me pictures of the food he made. Every day for 1 year... After 1,5 year this relationship stopped. I was suicidal suddenly. I completally collapsed. I was flabbergasted and did not know why i suddenly broke down completally. He also was very nice to me, but also very not nice. This 2 things i could not cope with either. To long story, but the food and beer was very important to him. No depth. Supperficial charm. No empathy. But he was also nice, so i do not get it. All was about him and his life, not mine. I will never be the same. He took something out of me. He really changed me. This never happened to me that drastically. It feels so weired and strange. I do not recognize myself anymore. I look at the miror and i do not see myself anymore. I felt completally dead and now i feel a living person but dead inside.

My ex-husband went to Cornell. He got his Ph.D at Northwestern University. He worked as a Nuclear Physicist for the Navy. He used to have trouble expressing emotions until the Navy hired him as a contract scientist. His psychiatrist tried for a year to get him in touch with his emotional self & it sort of worked but was going slow. The Navy asked him to do something for them, and it brought back all his emotions in a rush. He got so upset about their request that he took himself off the project. He never DID tell me what they wanted him to do.

@thetalkingboard

Жыл бұрын

A clue would be in any advice he gave you following that incident. Did he ever say anything like, “please don’t ever….” Or, always remember….”?

@No-ky3kb

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like PTSD not psychopathy

@Crazywaffle5150

Жыл бұрын

He just needs therapy and emotional support.

"I have nothing to do with that evil act of cruelty, or whatever happened." Chris Watts, Interview with detectives prior to being arrested for the murder of his wife and two children.

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

5 жыл бұрын

Psychos are not the masterminds some say they are.

@aprilthetwentyfirst482

4 жыл бұрын

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 I think that is because in some cases machiavellianism comes in addition to psychopathy.

@LisaMaryification

4 жыл бұрын

Perfect example of not being able to gauge the relationship between appropriate actions and feelings.

@misterreyth8805

4 жыл бұрын

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 stupid psychopaths? The psychopathic genius has been depicted in so many films.

@ikronos100

4 жыл бұрын

Lol fools

Excellent video. Leaves me feeling that I should have an honorary PhD for 50 years of being raised by and married to these unscrupulous individuals. I know too much. They don't like that.

@user-qr9uh1fd8g

Жыл бұрын

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@SheilaLS

Жыл бұрын

I always say I am a magnet for these type people. Ross Rosenberg's book Human Magnet Syndrome helped me see it more clearly. In my experience passive aggressive behavior is another incredibly frustrating facet to these type people.

@peaceangel-rl2hf

Жыл бұрын

Me too. They are very harmful and dangerous to those they are close to...

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

Me too. My sister is a psychopath. Unfortunately, I am still forced to deal with her due to circumstances outside of my control. I have become so good at understanding and knowing how to deal with her she has almost backed off slightly. I know she will never change but I think when they encounter someone who knows how to handle them, they almost respect that and step back just slightly. Never NEVER let down your guard or trust these people. Once you know who they are, never forget. That helps some.

@genossinwaabooz4373

10 ай бұрын

You're right. They def don't like us wise to it all.

As a woman who's lived for several decades on this Earth - from England to Hawaii - and numerous places in between - based on my personal experience, I am compelled to conclude that serial killers and serial rapists are everywhere. Their prevalence in the world is far more common than the "professionals" admit.

DSM-IV discarded psychopathy as a diagnosis. Hare (inventor of PCL and PCL-R was in on the Antisocial Personality Disorder (APD) field trials for DSM-IV. Hare &Hart (1995) expressed concern that by combining Psychopathy with APD in DSM-IV “ensures that some clinicians will continue to believe” the two diagnoses are the same.

I edit audio discussions as part of my job. It's amazing how messy natural language is. It has taken me 10 hours before to clean up 30 minutes of audio.

@rpaul9578

5 жыл бұрын

@Kathy Gilligan Funny enough, I'm doing that right now! Lol

@StefanTravis

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, I've done editing for audiobooks. I allow 3 times the eventual playback time for recording - so a 1 hour text will take 3 hours to record. And 5 times for editing - expect to spend 5 hours editing to get a 1 hour result. I've invented a way to fold most of the editing into the recording, but it still takes 4-5 hours to get a 1 hour product.

@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837

5 жыл бұрын

@@rpaul9578 That must be a hell of a job. I don't want to trade places with you.

@genli5603

4 жыл бұрын

Why? It’s good for detail oriented people and pays decently

@cantstopthemusic456

4 жыл бұрын

can you edit the ums out of this then?... in less than a week?

After encounters with psychopaths, particularly online, and on KZread too, this presentation to journalists by very reasonable academics is a very calming experience. Thank you, and grateful to good commenters also.

Makes me wonder how many “sociopaths” choose to work in the field of psychology...

@triluna0

4 жыл бұрын

Didn’t realize this possible connection until the introduction of, “Erica”... ...as he notes her success at CNN, is connected to his brilliant tutelage.

@commonsense571

4 жыл бұрын

Ohh noo

@backintimealwyn5736

4 жыл бұрын

jordan peterson is one of them ;) I studied psyhology , not that many. Psyhology attracts mostly women who score lower on narcissism and psychopathy , so statiscally you'll get less of them in psychology... but it is interesting that most psychology teachers or psychology "stars" are males when they make up 10 to 20 % of the students. I'd look that way, it would be an intersting study .

@daleowens7695

4 жыл бұрын

@@backintimealwyn5736 How is Peterson a psychopath? Dude fell into a deep dark depression with his wife's terminal cancer diagnosis. I think she's actually recovering so not quite terminal. Not once have I seen evidence of him not having empathy. What makes you say this? I'm not trolling or starting a flame war, I'm genuinely curious for what you consider as evidence.

@backintimealwyn5736

4 жыл бұрын

@@daleowens7695 I don't know, it was a joke. They are stuff I like about the guy, he's kind of brave, it's a quality I tend to like, he stands for what he believes ,and the people he cares for (lindsay for ecemple) I like that. BUt some of what he says is not rooted in science at all yet he claims he's on factual science's side. I don't like this double language it seems pretty manipulative to me. And he talks a lot about himself , his IQ, his work , he seems a bit grandiose and deceptive. But honestly I have no clue, it was just a joke.

This came up beside a Soundgarden video in my suggestions. I thought we were going to analyze Chris Cornell's lyrics, inevitably coming to the conclusion that he was a psychopath.

This is seriously interesting stuff. To be able to identify a personality disorder with language analysis from security, social and educational point of view would be amazing. The chap presenting is an academic not a clown there to entertain the kids.

@puppetperception7861

Жыл бұрын

what about a lie? since this is important to identifying a psychopath. why not start with the more simple things before forecasting group behavior based upon particularities

@audreymlean-roberts1394

Жыл бұрын

@@puppetperception7861 Well lie detection using verbal analysis has many times been studied. Much has been learnt as a consequence. However, In an of itself language without body language analysis when attempting to discover a lie just doesn't work very well.

@celisewillis

Жыл бұрын

Psychopathy isn't a personality disorder, they're born that way. Check out brain scans, they're missing parts of their brains the rest of us have.

@dogs_rule9832

Жыл бұрын

@@puppetperception7861 I'm going to g out on a limb here and say most psychopaths charged with murder are going to lie. And can pass a polygraph as the prof indicated. This micro language assessment is fascinating.

@danafrost5710

Жыл бұрын

Cancel culture begins with labels, and supporting this application of labels can lead to misuse, take care that you aren't cancelled one day.

I was married to one. Everything that came out of his mouth was a lie. He frequently would say things to me and other people like "if you don't do …..(blank) you are going to force me to do....(blank)." When he was telling a lie while he was sitting down , he would place one leg on top of another and rub the bottom of his shoe. It was so gross that it was distracting to everyone around. He never had any anxiety or fear. Currently he is in prison ,studying to be an attorney.

@ST-yc7uj

Жыл бұрын

The leg thing is a self-soothing strategy, all they feel is anxiety and fear all their life,they percieve everyone as a threat, but it is buried deep and different mannerisms are a telltale.

@devilsoffspring5519

Жыл бұрын

"Currently he is in prison, studying to be an attorney." If he was an actual psychopath, then he should currently be in the graveyard, studying to become worm food. Prison is not, and never has been a deterrence for psychopaths. Shooting them to death works quite well, though. So, why did you marry him? What is it about guys with no conscience at all that makes them irresistible to women, even when the other 99% of the guys around them are not psychopaths?

@vaska1999

Жыл бұрын

​@@devilsoffspring5519 They are extremely manipulative and many can be enormously charming in pursuit of their pray.

@devilsoffspring5519

Жыл бұрын

@@vaska1999 You mean, psychopaths are a lot like many women? So, why wouldn't a woman be easily able to identify a psychopath?

@vaska1999

Жыл бұрын

@@devilsoffspring5519 See a shrink, sweetie. I mean it.

Says psychopaths say "uhmm" more often... Continues to say "uhmm" in every following sentence. 😂😂😂

@guineapig55555

4 жыл бұрын

@@KittredgeRitter said the 4channer

@KittredgeRitter

4 жыл бұрын

@@guineapig55555 Says the secular Jew.

@kristileigh9059

4 жыл бұрын

@@KittredgeRitter Did I miss something?

@KittredgeRitter

4 жыл бұрын

@@kristileigh9059 Yeah. A European brain that has the ability of understanding and producing logic.

The bit about talking about food is so interesting- I’ve seen this in my personal life with one and also crime documentaries!!

lol why is there so much hate in the comments?? I thought it was interesting because I'm interested in this topic. Maybe you guys should watch something you are interested in?

@satyaveda5153

5 жыл бұрын

Possibly those commenters are psycho paths? Could be why they're watching this? Personally I've encountered some extremely intense people throughout the years and thought by the title this video might shed some light on the subject.

@kayenta2664

5 жыл бұрын

Satya Veda: Psychopaths are narcissists. They don't have a conscience and they don't care what anybody else thinks (of them). They don't see anything wrong with their behavior so why would they watch a video like this?

@satyaveda5153

5 жыл бұрын

Kayenta Because they study psychology. And they're obsessed with what others think of them that's all they have is false identity ie. Ego. You see the psychopath narcissist is the result of going so far to the point that they don't even see their errors which appears to others as "they don't care" but in reality it was their intense inferiority that drove them to this state in the first place.

@quovadis7119

5 жыл бұрын

They don't show many tiddleywink games on the net, so I have to watch this instead.

@MrS-pe6sd

5 жыл бұрын

@Anming Alexander Criticisms keep the wonky academic disciplines like psychology honest. Some people treat psychology like a religion and they believe everything they hear. It's all the more necessary for those people to listen to the criticisms and the "haters".

Very good talk. Thank you to whoever did the sound; great quality.

@chatticheswick4939

Жыл бұрын

If that was meant to be sarcastic, that was brilliant.

I was abused by a senior doctor and a nurse who covered up the malfeasance with blatant cut and paste fraud that blamed me for me injury in the medical records, and included the incongruent government promotional tagline “Explore the Experience” under the state logo. I don’t know if it was a lazy effort to construct the statutory form or a more subtle expression of their confidence and amusement at their work that left me literally devastated. The logo tagline is visible almost everywhere when I step outside, no one believes that I was intentionally harmed, at least now I know that psychopaths lurk where you least expect them. The disregard for civil liberties that technology enables seems to be facilitating the amplification of problematic narcissistic behaviours, and arguably psychopathic tendencies, as does social media. Given the slander that was written within the fraud, it is very disturbing that so many ‘experts’ are allowed infallibility status, lots of room for manipulation of assessments….

@chrisparrish6229

Жыл бұрын

Wow her name musta been Melissa. Sounds like my nurse sociopath boss I had in the 90’s.

@dee5331

Жыл бұрын

100% true

This is absolutely fascinating, especially because I have a family member who I only realized after decades of association that the reason for his odd behavior was narcissism/sociopathy. It is extraordinarily important to quantify this type of behavior so that they can be identified quicker and separated from the public if necessary. Having an automaton to identify these people is extremely important, if for no other reason, because they are MENTALLY EXHAUSTING. In addition, the research sounds analogous, to transposons in the human genome. They are "throwaways" that leave a very particular generic code that is almost impossible to replicate. One thing that they haven't mentioned, so far, is that REPETITION is the main method that they are able to manipulate. Moreover, the only manner of treatment is to call them out each and every time, even interupting the flow of the conversation, to bring it to their attention. They must know that you are aware of their aberrant behavior, even when it seems imperceptible. In addition, good behavior must be rewarded because their reward system should be on the same level of their hierarchy of need, .....basic. I'd volunteer with the police department to help because Narcissists are miserable and a waste of time.

@heide-raquelfuss5580

Жыл бұрын

To call them out... The only thing they learn is...to be wiser and more skilled the next time... This is my experience. You make of them better psychopaths, then before and smarter...

@sunnyday7843

Жыл бұрын

@@heide-raquelfuss5580 yes - domestic violence classes come to mind - gives them a whole new way to blame the victim

@justthefacts8872

Жыл бұрын

@Threetwo One I agree that narcissism and sociopathy have different meanings. That's why they're 2 different words. But, I don't agree with the balance of your statement and I stand by my original post.

@justthefacts8872

Жыл бұрын

@Threetwo One In short, pathological lies for NOTHING and persistance beats resistance.

@charleswhite758

Жыл бұрын

"Separated from the public if necessary"? Scary concept. We don't do that sort of thing in a free society. Try China. We "separate people from the public" (jail them) when they have been proven guilty of a crime beyond reasonable doubt by a jury of their peers. A very old concept, developed before 1066. You want to trash it?

The idea of a non-human interrogator is quite interesting. Very thought provoking.

@crescentmoonchild4031

4 жыл бұрын

What is a non human interrogator?

@BassGoThump

4 жыл бұрын

Debbie VanLeuven A computer that analyzes responses.

Discovery about things I didn't know about Psychopaths 100% upsetting. This guy's delivery 100% relaxing. Experiencing cognitive dissonance.

@ladymaiden2308

3 жыл бұрын

@u little shit Why? All I said was that was experiencing cognitive dissonance from hearing really disturbing information delivered in a soothing tone. Although I suppose it would be worse to hear it in a distressing tone on top of everything. Relax.

@eh.440

Жыл бұрын

Saaame

@jennymccullough9517

Жыл бұрын

He is used to the topic. Youre not.

I was married to one for 11 years. I project "good" onto others; and it took me forever to see him for who he really was. The pain in the relationship was never-ending. I, obviously, had a lot of growing to do. I subsequently found out through counseling that the had molested our one-year-old daughter... They are monsters existing on a non-human plane.

@devilsoffspring5519

Жыл бұрын

Projecting good onto others... I used to do that a LOT myself when I was a little kid. I had almost completely outgrown it by the time I was maybe 5 or 6 years old. We imagine and project good nature onto other people when we're little kids because for a lot of people, it's just our nature and we want to relate happily to the world we live in. But, it's incredibly naive and purely ignorant.

@desmondbrown3595

Жыл бұрын

You do not project good on to others, you are familiar with people that are dysfunctional and try to ease them when around them

@olgakultikova7323

Жыл бұрын

Omg I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. My worst nightmare

@cyndeetaylor

Жыл бұрын

Physical bodies devoid of spirit.

I had the misfortune of befriending a straight psychopath, it took me forever to figure it out. I'm not going to lie, but once you have the courage to tell yourself the truth. It becomes painfully obvious, I decided to pretend like he was someone who never spoke, and just take his actions at face value, and when you do that, and don't make excuses. Just look at the actions not one off but consistent year after year after year actions it paints a picture a picture that I noticed no one else could see, but thankfully one other mutual friend of ours caught on and I began piecing it together, that something is truly wrong. See I had my suspicion, but he's such a coward I thought it couldn't be true, but then one day he crossed the line and I had to fight him. I easily dominated him but there was something so odd about the fact that he was completely un phased like had no emotional reaction to the fact that we just had a fight. And, then I started to learn about psychopaths in the military and why the truth is they're actually worthless in battle they only care about themselves and are only interested in the weak they routinely avoid helping others in danger which is what war is. They look for the very weak they aren't outwardly bold like I expected. He comes across very meek and mild mannered everyone thinks he's sweet. and, when given some thought you begin to realize it's the perfect disguise. Because I know what he does I know the sick disgusting things he regularly does without fear. And, that's when I realized he doesn't fear altercation he just doesn't participate unless victory is certain just like a reptile goes for the kids and the injured. It's not an emotional decision it's purely economic. I realized the only emotion I've ever seen him show is contempt that he's careful to keep to himself. once put into context his actions reveal him completely, everywhere I've ever taken him he's the least threatening person, never responds to aggression it's only his actions and his never ending lies that have revealed him to me. I am no saint myself, and I think he found what he believed is a kindered spirit, but I have come to understand why I acted the way I did it was all highly emotional and neurotic action. His was completely calculated, and as you get older you mature and no longer even have a desire to break the law, (most adults stop committing crime at 28 due to testosterone leveling etc) But he kept on no matter how big the risk, he kept violating parole, kept doing the same crimes completely sure he would never get caught again, and I had to accept who he is. See i always thought I was the bad one but slowly I realized I had an emotional block, I was making this friend someone he simply wasn't. He's constantly proclaiming how he could never hurt anyone, he couldn't even hurt a fly he would claim, now I know what that really means it's camouflage it's their way of hiding. And, it's hard to admit you've been duped it's hard to admit your capable of being decieved for so long. I hope people realize they're not quite as obvious as you think. There's a lot of misdiagnosis going on these people aren't actually sad or angry they're trying on emotions like a coat. Remember they don't want to be caught they will 100% not reveal themselves. So don't expect some movie style shit expect a constant stream of excuses from someone who everyone knows "would never do something like that" that's who they are.

@guineapig55555

4 жыл бұрын

shut up you overobsessed imbecile

@AS-gz8oe

4 жыл бұрын

Cobra, dude. You're first message was actually really interesting and I'm glad you took the time to share but WHY did you take it to the place you did with the pissing imagery?! Cmon

@CobraAquinas

4 жыл бұрын

@@AS-gz8oe You're right it was petulant of me, I regret it now, since I have no way of knowing what psychological or mental state the other person was in. There's no telling what lense he was viewing my writing through. Perhaps he's had experiences where people cry wolf just for attention, and just had a visceral reaction to my post. I'll try to be more cognizant of this in the future. I'll probably delete it but, it's mildly humorous to me, and It will make yours, and his comments make no sense. So just letting you know in advance.

@rishaa682

3 жыл бұрын

@@guineapig55555 nut job

@candicejaid6107

3 жыл бұрын

Trying on emotions like a coat. I truly believe you know what you are taking about. Agreed.

I had noticed the issue about movement being used as a distractor, in dealing with my daughters father, when he would be trying to lie about a large issue. It seemed like the bigger the story/ lie he has trying to weave the more motion I would see. In dealing with my mother, she was very unlikely to BOTHER lying to ME, because I was in her power, but I do remember she was very physically active/physically agitated any time I would try to get her to explain why she had always physically hurt me, or was mentally abusive to me. (As a teenager, and young adult, I was always trying to understand why she had always been abusive toward ME ,but not my brother, I needed to understand why I was so unlovable and deserving of her abuse and hatred. I finally learned enough about psychopaths and abusers to no longer question the way she abused me...) This is interesting.

@paigeanguish6216

4 жыл бұрын

im sorry you had those experiences

@ishtlutz1261

Жыл бұрын

I understand this may be taken as me not actually comprehending your point - but I believe I do understand - but even so, I’ll still ask this because in any instance… whether someone was a psychopath or not a psychopath, & even whether or not I went from not understanding to understanding that as a fact…. I’d still find it reasonable to want to know Why was it ME versus my sibling that got abused?

@crystalmasters8582

Жыл бұрын

💜💜💜

@catamish9338

Жыл бұрын

Oh and yes! I wanted to comment on thes movement! That old adage “beware of shifty characters”! Well is that the truth! Restlessness, inability to stand still when speaking to them… like if they are figured out they’ll run! Lol! They will too if you starting calling them out. They also turn their backs, their face so you can’t see the smile they get when they get your emotions going! The body language experts say the position of the feet tell you a lot about what a person is thinking. One guy that I dated had lied so much online that when I met him in person his leg was I controllably shaking! You have to watch how they cover their movements too, they’ll make excuses for why they can’t stand still and some of the. Are straight out honest that they are nervous. So they do tie about that but yet they still proceed without fear of consequences

@anikasvellte

Жыл бұрын

I can relate to your experience with your mother. I experienced systematic abuse. I was targeted but not my little sister. Then when confronted with that later on .She would be Very obviously agitated defensive and go between playing victim. To being very hateful with underlying threatening sense or yes more violence . She's gone now. I try to not have resentment towards her. I truly feel it wasn't all even her but sone spiritual there was also Phenomena that can b explained otherwise But it was the most devastating relationship I've ever had. And sadly I was ina few abusive relationships after that. Now I don't ignore red flags or ever take for granted that a seemingly perfect relationship is simply being love bombed in order to get my trust and defense down.

Every psychopath is a narcissist. But not every narcissist is a psychopath.

@haitianhoodoo265

5 жыл бұрын

Narcissist gives intermittent reward ; sociopaths have an emotional barrenness and delight in of how much they can deplete their prey without reward, (imho) It is candidly sadistic.

@lndingalle9605

5 жыл бұрын

Every narcissist also lacks empathy. More impulsive more common.

@thomassuzuki5074

5 жыл бұрын

That is not true. I would bet billions of dollars on this.

@ir0n2541

5 жыл бұрын

No, this is not correct; not every psychopath is a narcassist and vice versa.

@Hattiesburgpatriot

5 жыл бұрын

This is correst. Every psychopath and sociopath are narcissist.

I find serious concerns over using these methods to find psychopaths- so many factors could play a factor in why someone doesn’t speak much about family and why they speak more about food and ‘things’ that are not due to being a psychopath. Age, trends, upbringing, family circumstances, popularity or lack of popularity- someone who felt bullied in school by wealthy kids could place more importance on wealth and material things; someone who doesn’t have a strong family connection may feel sadness or hurt when speaking of family, so they learned not to.

@lizando9481

Жыл бұрын

You do not understand the issue.

@amarketing8749

Жыл бұрын

@@lizando9481 Unnecessarily rude. They have a legitimate concern and it does need to be taken into account. So, if a person just has one of these things doesn't make them a psycopath the overall picture is more important for a diagnosis.

@fighttheevilrobots3417

Жыл бұрын

They address this around 21:00 minutes

@00bean00

Жыл бұрын

@@amarketing8749 it's not fully legitimate unless it's developed and tested against the contradicting evidence

@charleswhite758

Жыл бұрын

True, this sort of psycho-babble is what they use in Communist China. Everyone in a free society is innocent until proven guilty of some concrete crime by a jury of his peers! Anticipating crime/thought crime is a dystopian concept best left to Hollywood.

awesome job on recreating the dynamic camera angles and scenes! one of the best toy demos I’ve ever seen in a long time

The question at 44 minutes is incredibly valid. The issue I can foresee is that corporations will be actually seeking sociopathic people because they're extremely effective at managing people. This is also a major problem with the incentive structure of capitalism. It breeds sociopathy because the more sociopathic traits you have, the better you can do in business.

@lilyblossom1240

8 жыл бұрын

+BlueEternities this has already happened. look around you. this is why the world is focked. these people are already at the top of the "capitalist" food chain as well as many other systems around the world. in america we promote psychopathic ways as the ideal.

@lisazoria2709

8 жыл бұрын

+lily blossom So true. So many people seem blind to this...

@dossier9442

8 жыл бұрын

+BlueEternities effective in manipulating people - not managing.

@trance212

6 жыл бұрын

Sociopaths/psychopaths exist in other economic structures as well such as socialism/communism.

@chrispark5570

5 жыл бұрын

Pol Pot...Stalin....Mao...Che...Castro...Idi Amin...Were any of them psychopaths? Likely.

Once he pointed out dysfluency I couldn’t help hearing all his umms. This is very interesting.

@heide-raquelfuss5580

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that too, at the start, when he mentions about the uhmm's and so on. I thought...well...he does the same. Also, he talks a lot, but is not saying nothing really indepth. Also..., i see a light smirk on his face. Disturbing really...

This was fascinating! Really enjoyed it. Thank you for posting.

The digestive system is our first brain. Mess up the gut, mess up the brain. You mentioned the food focus. Children also focus on food. Oftentimes childhood trauma causes lifelong mental disorders, and children tend to speak of foods during conversations, especially when they're needing nutrients which occurs more frequently. Perhaps that's related to the frequency of food discussions with psychopaths you mentioned. Also mentioned was mind altering prescriptive substances. Those add further damage to the already damaged digestive system making mental disorders all the worse rather than better. Sadly, those substances are handed out like candy through the mediCATE community, in addition to being easily accessible out in public in general. Though this particular mental disorder discussed may not be improved through any means, it's certainly crucial to focus on the digestive system as priority for all mental disorders. My gratitude for this presentation. I found it very interesting and informative.

@curiousbystander9193

Жыл бұрын

begs the question...how does the gut biome influence cognition, mediated through hormones and neurotransmitters derived from that gut biome.....I suspect certain bugs colonies in the gut go hand and hand with personality disorders.

@laurawillingham1965

Жыл бұрын

@@curiousbystander9193 certainly gut brain connection. A concussion cascades immediately to the gut. It's fascinating, and very logically based beyond doubt. Hypocrites had it correct all those years ago. Sadly, that has been disregarded for the most part by the standard medical community. Gut microbiome has been more of a focus for at least a few more in the medical community the past handful of years, thankfully, but far too many continue to disregard it altogether. Hopefully that will soon change for the better.

The identification of psychopaths is incredibly important considering their criminal frequency, diversity & life course persistence.

@charleswhite758

Жыл бұрын

So .... what? ...... jail them all before they have a chance to do anything bad? That's not the sort of free society I want to live in. Go to Communist China, you'd love it there.

@Crazywaffle5150

Жыл бұрын

Not all psychopaths are criminals. Allot live normal lives.

@coalblooded

3 ай бұрын

​@@Crazywaffle5150Thank you, I came here to make that same distinction.

As a hypnotist who spent 3 years working closely with a covert narcissist you might want to look real close to the hypnosis thing. He was better at it than I am in a very natural way.

@bonnie_gail

Жыл бұрын

finally, someone says it

@goldilocks3593

Жыл бұрын

God yes that is it. They put you under their spell - even if you are highly conscious they are doing it!!

@RawOlympia

Жыл бұрын

that was creepy and cinematic

@Peecup

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been surrounded by coverts and overts all my life. Yes I agree with this 100%. Once you start talking to these people you are at their mercy. The only way not to be manipulated is to not communicate at all, no eye contact, nothing.

@freebird1477

Жыл бұрын

So many are v intelligent,charming, you feel.they really listen, I think a lot of politicians are psychopaths.

This is so very eye opening and interesting. I have someone in my life from a few years ago that had so many of these characteristics and this program has helped immensely. Thank you.

I went to school with this guy! He tried out for an acapella group I was in called "Here Comes Treble" He tried out but was beat out by one of our best singers Broccoli Rob who sang his signature song "Faith"

"Psychopathy is well defined, yet I can't define it for you and I don't distinguish it from sociipathy" Then it's not defined at all.

@ernststravoblofeld

5 жыл бұрын

Lots of people will give you long explanations of the difference between psychopaths, sociopaths, and antisocial personality disorder. They often conflict, and really don't matter. It seems to be mostly a fashion thing.

@ernststravoblofeld

5 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminFranklin99 The DSMs represent a combination of current fashion, and what insurance will cover. They shuffle symptoms and naming conventions around from one edition to another in ways that may or may not be helpful.

@aaronsilver-pell411

4 жыл бұрын

that's a good point.

@PointsofData

4 жыл бұрын

@@ernststravoblofeld so DSMs have no scientific value at all in your eyes? I feel like the insurance industry wouldn't pay out for anything that didn't have scientific value and was merely "fashion"...

@ernststravoblofeld

4 жыл бұрын

@@PointsofData No scientific value. There's some value in categorization, but in this case, that value is purely administrative.

Count me on the "no possible treatment" side of the controversy, at least for those with antisocial personality disorder. I have witnessed daily two psychopaths for over ten years. Over all the incidents, treated by every possible agency, they only use the knowledge gained to find a new opportunity to do damage against the people they blame--their victims.

@thewolf14

5 жыл бұрын

They aren't people. We need a big bug lamp for them for the sake of the human race.

@lunacouer

5 жыл бұрын

@@thewolf14 I think at some point, like 25,000 years ago, psychopathy/sociopathy was a valuable trait in those small tribes. I mean, someone that lacks fear and gets pleasure from violence? That makes a kick ass hunter and warrior. And they would've adapted to keeping relationships with those in their tribe. Not from any real sense of community or love. It was just vital to stay alive. Today, it's pretty useless - in fact, detrimental in the damage they can do. The fact that it can be genetic, and that it causes different structures in their brains than the general population, tells the story that its a trait that's been around a long time. It just hasn't been bred out. Yet. Hopefully, as the idea and education of these conditions gets out there, people can just avoid them.

@scottpreston5074

5 жыл бұрын

I concur. I don't believe that psychopaths are mentally ill any more than I believe that a wolf is a sick dog. The wolf does what a wolf naturally does; it is not sick, but you wouldn't want to keep it in your home.

@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

5 жыл бұрын

Psychopaths are to be neutralized. For justice and safety. Revenge is good as well. All called for. Destroy them all.

@NewPhone-vj4sc

4 жыл бұрын

Mary, traditional therapy techniques do indeed backfire, but there ARE approaches that can be successful...at influencing, managing and reforming these types. Take heart.

I'm only 3 minutes into this video, and I can tell I'm going to be stuck here until it's done.

Please do an update on this video. It’s more pertinent than ever. Thanks so much❣️

Dr, Stanton Samenow is premier in the study of psychopathic criminals. His work is used to educate those working towards becoming profilers for the FBI etc. He often has discussed the specific words and manner of communication that are used by criminals. With his decades of research done with criminals I am curious that these folks do not mention him or seem to even know of his enormous body of research. He writes regularly for Psychology Today. I am degreed in Communications and I have studied the language of the Personality Disordered for the past five years. I work in a counseling office of a college and over a period of years I have been able to identify three extremely Narcissistically Personality Disordered women by listening to their conversations, one who I reported to the FBI for fraud. All are extremely manipulative and all have committed fraud and other crimes of misrepresentation. The FBI was only notified after I had gathered enough data to enable them to have a case. Because the employee was over 72 she was forced into retirement along with her immediate supervisor within 30 of my handing over a key to a supply cabinet that held documentation proving Pell Grant fraud that spanned nearly a decade. It wasn't ethical to remove information from the office due to the Federal Privacy Act but an unused metal cabinet became a receptacle that allowed the copious gathering of many documents. Indeed the "distancing" use of words and the manipulative techniques that are regularly employed to distract, enlist unearned empathy, play the victim, cast innuendo on others, and commit character assassination were endless. It takes a different perspective to catch on to the word play. The book authored by Dr. Stanton Samenow , . "Inside the Criminal Mind" is very educational in understanding the mindset of the pathologicol narcissist. Samenow uses the word "criminal" to explain the mindset, even if the person is never convicted of a crime. Samenow states that most criminals are never caught let alone convicted.

@HappyQuailsLC

2 жыл бұрын

I am very curious to know whether the 72 yo being forced into retirement was considered to be the entire solution to her extensive fraud? Was a lack of accessible or remaining funds to recover a consideration in basically " letting it go"?

there are two kinds of people who say they don't believe in right and wrong: 1) folks who are sticking up for the psychopaths they depend on for food/shelter/attention in their everyday lives 2) folks who are psychopaths and fear being exposed as such

@heyMattJay

8 жыл бұрын

Both of your points are very true but it is also true that morals cease to exist with the absence of human life.

@farahbushnaq7323

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing scares psychopaths more than being exposed for the game that they’re playing

@ikronos100

4 жыл бұрын

How would one know if theyre a pyscho and how would one be exposed foool

@kidsmoked

4 жыл бұрын

The former are moral prostitutes.

@sarahallenhumboldt2638

4 жыл бұрын

@@farahbushnaq7323 They don't care what anyone thinks of them or their behavior; they just want to know how to continue on with their plan.

It's funny, did anyone notice that the song playing on the on-hold music was The Police's "Every Breath You Take"? Listening to the lyrics, it pretty well describes a psychopathic stalker who declares, about his girlfriend/wife, among other things, "You belong to me".

@spaceflip-zj2bm

Жыл бұрын

Every Breath You Take is about Stings daughter. Take another listen.

@joyfulyes

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceflip-zj2bm that makes it worse if possible

@spaceflip-zj2bm

Жыл бұрын

@Joyful Yes in the context of being a father not really, are you a mother?

@thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016

Жыл бұрын

@@spaceflip-zj2bm From Wikipedia: Sting later said he was disconcerted by how many people think the song is more positive than it is. He insists it is about the obsession with a lost lover, and the jealousy and surveillance that follow. Care to revise your ridiculous comment?

I worked in a medium security with Inmate diagnose with personality disorder as a broad term. I watch them manipulate staff and be manipulated by their fellow inmates. Every thing is based and deception. They are easily offended when they are not being praised. Every interesting conversations... I grew a lot from my interaction with them and I understand how they affect people.... Standard treatments were violence reduction... but its true that they learned the language and try to use it back to out smart professional

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

Yes. the thing is though when you really understand them, it's easy to just never never trust them or believe anything that comes out of their mouth. Period. No second chance, they will never change. Assume they are always lying because 99 % of the time they are.

One of the issues with diagnosing female psychopaths is prejudice in psychology and psychology. Men are diagnosed, women are labeled. You can find females diagnosed with borderline personality disorder who have PTSD, psychopathy or were just pissed off when they saw some poorly educated health care provider. This is particularly true with social workers who know just enough to be dangerous. The females misdiagnose as much as the males.

@amarketing8749

Жыл бұрын

Very true. The female psycopath is also rarer and is so different that it is hard for us to understand or conceptualize. Other diagnosis are made, because it is difficult for humans to see this in the female form. We don't want to think it's possible, while male psycopaths are readily accepted.

@SomeGuy-up4yz

Жыл бұрын

Females with zero emotional affect are statistically rare, so it is illogical for that to be the first diagnosis on a list, even if a lot of the criteria match.

@austinclark3949

Жыл бұрын

What data are you basing this off of ?

@phoenixfire8226

Жыл бұрын

Gender is a social construct so everyone is equally as likely to be a psychopath tbh

Really interesting discussion. What comes across to me is the subtlety and mastery of the psychopath's use of language to achieve his or her ends. I have talked with a young adult with antisocial personality disorder and I couldn't work out how their conversation seemed to trap me. It was like I was going down the rabbit hole in the story 'Alice in Wonderland'. Now I see a bit more how this might have been working if they are able to do things like distancing with their tenses etc.

@AnneBoleynTudor

8 жыл бұрын

+Jo Fox I was married to a psychopath. Of course back then we knew nothing about them and I had never heard of personality disorders. I knew something was wrong but couldn't put my finger on it in the early days, but discussions went nowhere and everything wrong in the relationship was my fault! I went to counselors and marriage guidance but they had no idea either what I was dealing with.

@tulanzuya

5 жыл бұрын

Would be an interesting experiment to have a knowledgeable third party observe the interaction next time, either in person or via videotape. Not being engaged in the conversation themselves, they could probably spot the red flag moments.

I would like to see more on detecting nonviolent but manipulative psychopaths in everyday life. 85% of psychopaths are not in prison, and those are the ones who affect the rest of us the most.

@GilmerJohn

Жыл бұрын

Really?

@jfloyo11

Жыл бұрын

yeah we only ever talk about the one version of a psychopath...the major crimes version lolol

@bovinityleak2066

10 ай бұрын

Look to politics, especially federal level. This is where a large chunk of that 85% can be found and observed. It is not unusual to see them moving between both populations though (the 15% and the 85%).

@WayOfAges

10 ай бұрын

@@bovinityleak2066 Exactly. Government is a good place to start setting legal precedents in barring social predators.

@bovinityleak2066

10 ай бұрын

@@WayOfAges Sure sure. But i was talking about where you will find a huge bucket of psychopaths. You knew that though.

Something psychological happens presumably in the mind. Thank you Doctor

There is also the issue of psychopaths learning how to consciously modify their language to evade detection, once this technology becomes known about in the public eye.

@michaelfalkenberg1930

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, however disjunctions however are hard to get rid of, in the same way as microexpressions

@tulanzuya

5 жыл бұрын

Probably not worth worrying about. These language habits are likely so ingrained that they can't be easily modified except in the most superficial of ways.

@sidarthur8706

5 жыл бұрын

psychopaths have to 'evade detection' because of our hysteria over them. just like gays and autistics, you can't be weird in our society, everyone's got to pretend to be normal. when it's a gay lad trying not to get beaten up we don't blame the lad, we blame society for being intolerant. but when it's the big bad psychopath doing his best to avoid getting killed we call it his devious machiavellian nature. o they're clever, those psychopaths. they're literally the devil

@beautyalaritz3310

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidarthur8706 interesting take 🤔

@paigeanguish6216

4 жыл бұрын

@@sidarthur8706 you're probably a psychopath trying to evade detection rn

Amazing stuff guys. I will look for this paper and rewatch this video. Sounds like great work! I hope to find more, truly fascinating!

Prof. Woodworth, Thank you for educating everyone on here. I find your lectures to be very informative and to the point. We all are familiar or know someone like that I believe. For me, its one of my grandfathers who had psychopathic tendencies. He enjoyed dehumanizing myself at 7 and my half brother who was 13 by physical/verbal means. Made both of us cry. Enjoys putting us in dangerous situations for his amusement only. Actually was quite capable of telling the truth too, when asked. He was a concentration camp victim/ World War II orphan. Other grandparents who were also born during the same time period mid 1930's just didn't behave like that.

Very interesting talk. Thanks for publishing it on KZread.

Very helpful for victims. Especially considering until recently there was no death penalty. Knowing the thief, attempted murderer, fraud, rapist is going to get out is depressing if you aren’t prepared.

I WISH I could have attended this. Excellent discussion, looking forward to reading the findings.

I find it disturbing that so many of the questions are over concerns about the privacy of psychopaths vs the potential to protect innocent victims from psychopaths!!!

Has anyone studied psychopaths in the police, prosecutor, judge and court workers? It seems these people have a degree of psychopathy which attracts them to the profession and gives them insight into criminals, but also tempts them to commit small digressions and crimes themselves through their job.

@juneelle370

Жыл бұрын

Small… or extremely large.

@devilsoffspring5519

Жыл бұрын

People have studied psychopathy in authority for decades. The conclusion they reached was that a whole lot of them were psychopaths themselves, and even the ones that weren't had a high incidence of malignant narcissism. Massive Ego + Low Conscientiousness = Authority

@dee5331

Жыл бұрын

100% True!

@dw3403

Жыл бұрын

they seek power. What does that tell you?

13:23 Chris Watts went into great detail about what he packed for his lunch on the morning of the murders (right before he stuffed his kids into oil tanks)... cottage cheese, chicken, etc.

@traciewasley7750

5 жыл бұрын

I know! Weird

@gianna5869

5 жыл бұрын

I found that odd too. why go into such trivial detail when there is a full blown crises occurring, Its like the mundane and ordinary meant about as much as murdering his entire family. ate breakfast strangled wife and kids , drove to my job buried wife quickly, checked the oil tanks decided bodies would fit put kids in . went got gas went to work ate lunch went home. oh no where are wife and kids? crazy he was so efficient in the entire process truly terrifying to think how many more Chris Watts type individuals maybe lurking about undetected unsuspected and seemingly normal. I do question if this was always part of his psyche ? i noticed a change from the photos when he was heavier he had more warmth in his eyes looked more approachable and friendly, did the supplements and weight loss contribute to a change in his mind? Of course most will say no this had to be there just waiting to surface. so maybe when he became stimulated by some major event.in rose to the surface. Of course we know that event was his affair with NK and his creepy lust for her.

@texuztweety

5 жыл бұрын

It's because psychopaths are self centered and vain. What they fixed themselves for lunch that day is important to them. It's all about THEM. Check out www.vainencounters.com for more info (Lisa E. Scott )

@misstmemrs

5 жыл бұрын

It is a ptsd behavior.

@misstmemrs

5 жыл бұрын

He was taught to be totally obedient and keep his mouth shut and tell people what they want to hear.

I find this topic and the relatable way in which he conveys it , to be utterly fascinating.

This is a very informative subject; thank you for posting it!

This reminds me so much of the show Mindhunder. The work they did and all.. The study in speech. I can't wait for season two.

I am very happy to have found this discussion. Do not forget about victims in all this...M

@OrchestralOrg

4 жыл бұрын

*victims are the greater abomination.*

Extremely fascinating! I really enjoyed listening to that. Insightful

I found this to be interesting. I can see where it could eventually be used as a Forensic method in solving cases. It could also be abused in the wrong hands. But everything good thing can and has been abused at some point. Very fascinating study. And Q & As. Thank You Gentleman for Sharing.

Also as a researcher, I agree with John Redberg. And I’d like to add that the researchers didn’t seem to take in consideration that interviewing imprisoned psychopaths has influence on what a psychopath talks about. For example, the researchers concluded that psychopaths do not talk much about their family. But when a psychopath is in free contact with family and others, he talks a lot about the conflicts he has with his family, his visions on ideal love, women he considers his ideal to have a relationship with etcetera. That certain words are repetitive in the spoken language of psychopaths is because psychopaths brainwash other people and can only do so by repeating a lot of their sentences over and over again. Not only certain words. It is accurate that psychopaths, while brainwashing others, often use words like “because”, but they use them in misleading sentences. In their contacts with others they use a self fulfilling prophecy. For instance, as evidence of the presence of psychopathic characteristic 15, they constantly change the rules of behaviour that they want their victims to obey. Because they are malicious, they do so without informing the victim the rules have changed. In that way the victim always fails their rules and the psychopath ensures himself to have reason to use verbal or physical violence to punish the victim. So, just the observation that a person uses the word “because” a lot, is not a reason to suggest someone can be a psychopath. In reality, psychopath language shows in every sentence that the psychopath speaks in reflection of the 20 psychopath characteristics of Robert Hare, including his paranoid underground of thinking. To find the patters in which the psychopath uses his 20 characteristics in each sentence one should analyse, determine and compare repetitions (as sign of brainwashing), his shown hypocrisy in emotions (characteristic 1), his shown exaggeration and way he looks upon himself (characteristic 2) shown sorts of deceit (characteristic 4), shown humiliation and self-undermining of himself and his victims (characteristic 10), shown behaviour rules, appointments and pressure (characteristic 15) shown sorts of antagonistic defamation (characteristic 16) etcetera and the combination of those in his sentences. The language of a psychopath has a form of deceit in practically every sentence which often only can be found by comparing it to later sentences he speaks or analysing the imagery he uses in comparison with effects he claims the imagery has. Therefore, the identifications these researchers use are too far away from what a psychopath is and does and will likely identify people as psychopaths, who have no psychopath characteristics at all.

@mtocalcutta

5 жыл бұрын

Lisa Smit absolutely. Your comment is spot on and much more educational/informational than this entire video.

@Stellabyestarlight

5 жыл бұрын

DAMN thanks Lisa

@PointsofData

4 жыл бұрын

He never said the indicators they use are hard evidence of psychopathy....it seems like you're stating the same things they did.

@daphne4983

4 жыл бұрын

Check out statement analysis.

@ootenba5910

Жыл бұрын

Great comment!

Thank you, Professor Hancock, for uploading this video.

This guy is like reading a 📖. It is informative and helps me focus.

My intuition tells me this man is also psychopathic. Not bad in any way, just interesting. I love the smile. It reminds me of an old psychopathic coworker. Good to see it still alive in someone else.

@lifeisgood070

4 жыл бұрын

It's so interesting actually, all the same mannerisms. It's actually eerie how similar they are. Good idea to look down and change your voice talking about someone else. Good idea to use such novel language that can't help but bring visions of grandeur to your record.

@heide-raquelfuss5580

Жыл бұрын

I had the same thought at the very beginning allready...

I wonder if a non psychopath could learn the psychopath language and how it would effect a psychopath talking to them in their own language. The most effective treatment is bars and walls

@chefEmersonWilliams

4 жыл бұрын

@ They're weak. It is a fallacy that they are leaders. They might be position-holders. But not leaders. The best leaders are not psychopaths. They are a minority of CEO's. Most strong people (such as make up leaders) are normal, not abnormal.

4 жыл бұрын

@@chefEmersonWilliams Psychopathy is proving NOT to be an aberrational personality type at all, but a set of behavioural traits that most of us exhibit from time to time without much of an issue. The wealth of data we have on psychopaths, whilst extensive, is fundamentally flawed because the vast majority of subjects available to study are dysfunctionally diagnosed psychopaths, or people convicted of horribly violent crimes. Shit, we even go through a late puberty stage of psychopathy. Developmental studies show that among otherwise normal 15-25 year old males, the behavioural flag traits for psychopathy are all actively ringing the kind of bells that if somebody more mature, say from age 35 onwards was displaying, and they were picked up on by Psych Doctors or Police, they'd be involuntarily admitted to a secure psych ward for careful observation. The reason these young men aren't diagnosed as psychopaths, is that it seems we grow out of it, like a phase. But we don't grow out of it at all. We learn how to sublimate these traits into our character, and use our increased self awareness (hopefully) to assimilate our psychopathic urges into proportionately acceptable pursuits. And those who for whatever reason cannot manage to do that, are the ones we get to run clinical psychopathy tests on. But would you run the Druze test on Rabbits who were already blind? "Man, know thyself" ~ inscribed above the entrance to the Delphic Oracle, and attributed to Pythia..

@shutdown8947

2 жыл бұрын

Read the book, Wisdom of Psychopath's.

@dougr6269

2 жыл бұрын

@@shutdown8947 Gotten to communicate with some psychopaths recently who are not criminals and in some ways have the advantage of not carrying around a lot of emotional baggage.

Wished I could give this 10 thumbs up, so excellent. Thank you so much for posting.

Absolutely fantastic, certainly not boring .

The scariest thing about socio and psychopaths is that they never seem to look scary. My daughter I believe fits the profile (I believe all her psych stays the docs agreed but her stays were as a minor and they couldn't legally put the lable on). She can say and project a personality that is endearing to most. She can spin a story beautifully to those who don't suspect. And when the person is told the facts of a situation they are in disbelief. Unfortunately it really hurts the folks drawn in who were only being kind and it makes them question everyone after that. :( Good people are ruined by socio/psycho pathologies.

@udontevenwannaknowbruv

Жыл бұрын

Wow… That’s intriguing to me. I have a couple of questions: - At what point did you as her mother realize that she might have aspd? - Was/is she a difficult child? Does making friends come easy to her? - Was there ever a moment that you believed she had tried to manipulate you? - Do you think it’s easier for you to spot when someone is being dishonest or do you get like a gut feeling when you encounter someone who seems to be faking his personality because of your experiences with your daughter? - do you think her behavior is a product of genetics or life experiences? Has she always been the same? My father is an extremely charming man, never have I seen anyone who is as good at bewitching others like him. I have witnessed countless of times how men and women fall head over heels upon meeting him, he’s a master at making others feel like gold and thus can wrap them around his finger in an instant. It’s scary how his personality is quite the opposite at home. Once he gets what he wants out of you he will find literal joy in setting you up against others and seeing how he can use his natural charms to manipulate others. He is also very vain and knows his looks and the way he confidently carries himself are part of why people admire him. My brother is an exact copy of him, maybe slightly less malicious. As a young girl I often wondered why people would keep coming back to my father even after he gaslight and use them for his own gains multiple times. Now I know that he either has narcissistic personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder. I do believe it has given me an advantage of spotting people who fake their persona’s and have at times caught them in their own lie. It’s made me very wary of people in general and I can never fully open myself up to friends because I’ve experienced how a person like my father will use anything you say against you at some point or another even in unbelievable situations. I wish it was easier to see through these kinds of manipulative people, it would prevent a lot of abuse, trauma and trust issues.

@wordswordswords8203

Жыл бұрын

My sister is a psychopath and my mom, who deep down knows something is really wrong with her and doesn't trust her, will not really accept who she really is. I think it's good that you can recognize that in your own daughter. I'm sorry she is like that but pretending it's not happening like my mom does only makes things worse. My mom puts "family" above everything. My sister has almost everybody fooled that she is "nice". My God, she is pure evil. Even my father calls her evil. I don't really trust anyone anymore. Or at least I am very wary. My whole family is on the spectrum. It's caused so much damage.

@nonienandya6585

Жыл бұрын

I don't think your daughter is in the psychopathy spectrum, but in narcissistic personality disorder. Alike but not the same. She spin story to make people giving attention and creating persona. Lacks of empathy but in pure psychopathy, not necessarily to attract attention. Psychopath that has narcissistic disorders that is the one usually become aspd (anti social personality disorder). Lacks of empathy (or none), need validation, has grandiose and delusion, and they love control (narcissistic strong traits are these too), the don't like order, hence they breaking laws (anti social) The other psychopathy, who doesn't has ASPD they are best politicians, CEOs, they lack of emotions hence they has the endurance of stress. They could be researchers, teahers that has strong justice. Lastly, if u are ao sure that ur daughter are psychopathy, just get her brain scan. Psychopathy has different brain.

@mygirldarby

Жыл бұрын

Psychopaths don't just randomly pop up. They run in the family. Mom, dad or a grandparent is a psychopath and you will find psychopaths all down the family line...if she's actually a psychopath. I'm not at all convinced she is. Most are male and why would she have numerous psych stays?? Sounds like something is going on in her family. A neuroscientist named James Fallon studied PET scans of psychopaths. One day he scanned his own brain and it was that of a psychopath. Shockingly he was an upstanding successful scientist, no trouble with the law, happily married with nice kids. It turns out that this psychopath had a very loving stable childhood. Fallon's research has shown that psychopaths are born, however they must experience dysfunction and abuse in their childhood in order to exhibit the symptoms of psychopathy. It sounds like your daughter had a very.rough childhood.

@nonienandya6585

Жыл бұрын

@@mygirldarby yes it's a run in the family. After i saw James Fallon's, his research finally answers my family intriguing dynamic. My family are bunch of cluster b. My father is psychopathic in aspd (he was breaking the laws many times and jailed in max security jail). Myself has trait psychopathic but in pro-social, 😅 yes i don't have much empathy. My mom is narcissistic, my sister is narcissistic, and histrionics. My grandparents are narcissistic, my mom siblings mostly narcissistic and borderline.

after he pointed out his "umm", it was all i could hear

Answering the question posed at around 17:00 :The difference between sociopath and psychopath is primarily one of a differentiation in the "theater of operations". The same individual will exhibit similar behavior across all expressions of self.The terms psychopath and the sociopath describe a single and same modality as that modality is applied to individual interpersonal relationships versus group dynamics. This is a very informative video.I have always said that the choice of one word over another can speak volumes to the ear which can hear.

@archiefibbon7325

4 жыл бұрын

But does it listen?

@kahyui2486

Жыл бұрын

Sociopath is not a recognised term in psychology. Anyone who uses it doesn't understand the complexity of cat 2 psychopaths. Including this guy who spends his life gaining research from murderers and then building his views from the most troubled psychopaths. Makes no sense

So interesting, wow! Thanks for uploading👍🏼

Great conference and very insightful information, thank you! I feel like ever if you tell someone who has a personality disorder that they have an issue, they will forget it then next day.. most of us have very selective hearing- we only hear what we want to hear. Confirmation bias? I I’m no psychiatrist, just through personal experience.

Thank you to Cornell - please make more classes/speakers available - for free. Like Stanford does with R. Sapolsky.

Argh those "Function Words" are very telling! I never had a name for it before, so thank you for highlighting this aspect of a general conversation with your everyday psychopath/sociopath. I always wondered how I could always spot one without always realising their speech patterns!

@laurieberry162

Жыл бұрын

KZread is turning me into a nutcase.

@ST-yc7uj

Жыл бұрын

@@laurieberry162 stop binging

Wow, I was just checking the time as the video was ending. This flew right by for me. I appreciate this being recorded & available. Thank you! Curious... How would one go about deciphering the clouded mind of a CPTSD trauma response dialogue vs psychopathy with regard to disfluencies?

I follow a competing theory of what a psychopath is. Etymologically, a psychopath is one who cuts through the path of the mind. A sociopath is one who cuts through the path of society. Both are psychopathic, however, the sociopath takes action, whereas the psychopath is merely manipulative of value systems.

@obscurebullshit

Жыл бұрын

That's not what "path" means in Greek

@obscurebullshit

Жыл бұрын

You should reexamine your grasp of etymology

No kidding! I am also a forensic psychologist (PhD), currently in a PsyD program for licensure - and I am a Cornell alumnus. Those I have interviewed describe their crimes as if they were describing how to disassemble a firearm, (literally) cool as a cucumber, kinda monotone in many cases. Oh! But where he is wrong is where he states that they generally lack self-actualization as pertains to Maslow&Rodgers’ hierarchy of needs. Many are high-functioning; I would estimate 50-70%. Furthermore, even with the most recent version of the PCL-R, it is no longer a true representation of Hare’s original checklist... and good luck getting the full truth and not being toyed with by many of these. Research idea! Here you go thesis-seekers. Per my own experience as an interviewer of psychopaths, their associative memory is surprisingly sharp. This is why you got a lot of garble about meals, how much gas they needed to drive to the scene of the crime, how much that roll of duct tape from Home Depot cost that they used to bind the victim before they murdered, and only then....the descriptions of performing their ritual and staged their scene (if applied). There is a reserve question with clear implication that contributes to society and the body of research.

@sarahallenhumboldt2638

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting info; thank you.