Update: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaGpypOJd63TZ6w.html More details: The residents who live in the buildings on both sides of the hole will be able to return home soon as work is completed. The residents who live in the affected building will not be able to return for weeks, possibly months. This update was given from an official via news story. MORE INFO: This exact location opened up back in the 1980's. Check my community post of fb page to see pictures of the 1980's subsidence.

@SPEEDZTER2000

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update. I feel terrible for the families affected by this.

@crewleaderprods

10 ай бұрын

I'd have second thoughts about reoccupying those buildings if I lived there. Good chance it could happen again.

@Saints4life

10 ай бұрын

Why would anyone want to return there? Especially if the sinkhole can open up more and be how much deeper. The coal mine companies should’ve filled all mined areas in Pennsylvania when they’re not in use! People could have died! Look how close it was to taking that building. 😡 Thanks for covering this story. I grew up a few towns away, and it always bothered me how irresponsible they are about safety.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

@@Saints4life The main reason they were never filled in is because that would cost money and mine owners were only out to make money. They didn't/don't care about the lasting effects of their operations.

@jamesalinio5277

10 ай бұрын

​@@JPVideos81all too true, one example is Johnstown, and there's many many other mines that have in some way or another have taken lives of citizens, and it was all for the Almighty dollar with no thought for anyone who would be affected by the mine owners carelessness

The dude operating that dozer is one crazy man.I wouldn't go anywhere near that hole especially with the ground being this wet.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

I have a feeling he's done this a couple times before.

@577buttfan

10 ай бұрын

@@AnthraciteHorrorStories So risky

Great coverage! I grew up in Glen Lyon and married a Glen Lyon guy. We were still living there and Phil was a police officer with the Newport Township Police Dept. when this shaft opened up in 1983. The Rock Street Project was still being built and locals were concerned when the shaft was filled in and the building was built right on the edge of the original shaft. A side shaft connected this one with W. Main Street, and when the vertical shaft collapsed everything covering the Main Street shaft blew onto the street. It was a miracle no one was hurt during all this. It caused a big stir around the area, but since this was before the internet, KZread, and Twitter the most that people did was take photos of the clean-up behind the yellow tape.

That whole area there was a mine complex. Just across Main St was a breaker and the conveyer crossed over Main St. I remember when the breaker burned down and IIRC, it burned down in 1976 just after I came home from the Navy.

Great story coverage JP! Glad nobody was injured from the collapse, scary how much worse it could've been! Thanks for bringing the story to us!👍

Thankfully the homes didn't collapse when it happened ...could have been tragic . 💙🙏Prayers for the displaced families.

@Ranthra1

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, that one building could have just fell in there. Those people got lucky the sinkhole wasn't a little closer. Hope they all are ok.

@Ranthra1

10 ай бұрын

Hopefully they will be able to go in and get their belongings. However I doubt they will ever be able to live there again. Would you even want to?@@AnthraciteHorrorStories

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Families lives were spared, but hopefully they can move past this unfortunate situation.

@lifewithlacy7190

10 ай бұрын

Prayers to the displaced families 🙏🏻♥️🙏🏻

@ericb8867

10 ай бұрын

This is the second time that mine has opened.

You would think the county would not allow building that near a hole that goes 750 feet down.

@jamesocker5235

9 ай бұрын

Real estate sales didnt care and sold this like hot cakes.

I live in Stark county Ohio and there are hundreds of abandonded small coal mines here. On my property there are numerous small sinkholes but nothing like that! That hole is nuts! Hope the people will all be alright. Thanks for posting this JP!

@georgebaumgardner5280

10 ай бұрын

Hi Ranthra1! I live just south of you in Tuscarawas County. You are right, there are so many mines like this all around our area and so many are not even recorded as to where they were. I remember the one collapse on Route 30 towards Dalton several years ago and one in the Sugarcreek area in a housing allotment as well.

@wowbagger3505

10 ай бұрын

Glen Lyons is in an old Anthracite producing area with folded coal seams, that are at times vertical. My wife came from Stark County and those are bituminous coals with no folding. The coals in your area are more or less horizontal and stratiform. Totally different seams, totally different mine configuration. I am retired, but was primarily a coal geologist with West Virginia for forty one and a half years although I did what needed to be done!

@Ranthra1

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the sinkholes here are mainly in lines. Not a huge problem but it hurts the mower (and my back) when I find a new one. Thanks for the info!@@wowbagger3505

@dickbutt7854

10 ай бұрын

Hey neighbor

@Ranthra1

10 ай бұрын

Hey! I live on Southway between Canton and Massillon. Glad to meet you.@@dickbutt7854

Interesting footage, you get a good view with the drone. 👍 Lucky that house didn't fall in the sinkhole⚠️😲😳 I'd be very apprehensive moving back into those homes, especially as it happened before in the 1980s, just filling the hole is clearly only a temporaey fix until it happens again!

Great coverage of a scary situation. The drone is amazing in how it lets one safely explore such things. I'm hoping the homes will all be able to be saved and the residents can return. That's got to be especially hard on the kids, and my heart goes out to them.

That's so sad they got evacuated like that. The one's who built these places should be held accountable for not investigating if the ground was safe for construction or not. Let this be a lesson for others who want to build in coal mining country. Make sure the ground is safe and solid to avoid future issues. Great report Jay! Thanks for sharing with us. 🌺🌺⛏👍⛏🌺🌺 God Bless.

@mikes62soupcan

10 ай бұрын

The homes are low income built by Luzerne County.

I came back and watched it a second time JP please keep us posted on what's going on thanks JP please keep us posted on what's going on thanks

Thankful no one was hurt. Prayers for the displaced families. Great footage with the drone JP. TYFS.👍🥰

As usual, when you cover local news, you do a great job. I'd rather get it from you than get it from the local stations.

Thank you for posting so promptly on this breaking story. Hopefully the displaced families will be allowed to retrieve their belongings if the building can't be saved to occupy again. By the way, excellent editing work on the switching from drone footage to ground view.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

That was a bit tedious to edit, but glad you enjoyed the footage.

Oh wow, how scary and so sad! I feel so bad for all those families! Like you said, I hope they are able to take care of filling the sinkhole before getting any worse than it already is. You did an awesome job covering this JP! Thank you!

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

We can only hope it doesn't get worse before it gets better. Thanks for checking out this crazy event.

Something very similar to this happened 3 years ago in a nearby neighborhood to mine. A gypsum mine the neighborhood was built over collapsed into the mine opening a new portal and unfortunately still 3 years later has displaced many families and the area is all blockaded and homes abandoned.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

What state?

@MNorris1985

10 ай бұрын

@JPVideos81 south Dakota

Thank you for sharing.

wow that a big hole being that huge and deep sucks the family had to leave there homes because of that. thanks for sharing jp

😮 Could have been so much worse... I'm glad no one was hurt, and I hope all working on fixing this gets everything taking care of safely. 🙏🏻 My prayers go out to the families that have been displaced by this, and I hope they get to go back to their apartments soon, and they're not permanently condemned. Well, if they want to go back there after this, that is. I guess it's probably normal out there, but makes me wonder how they got the approval to build an apartment there with that shaft. Remind me so of the 🏤 Davenport, Ia, Apartment Collapse around here back in May of this year. It was so much worse, and unfortunately, people didn't make it and fell victim to the collapse, unlike here. A historic building fell to the ground due to lack of maintenance. It was so horrible, I visited the site myself. I also lived in some apartments once myself, where we had a tornado go right over our roof. Thankfully, out of the 3 apartment buildings on that property, ours was the one that was spared from being temporarily condemned. I still realized how lucky we were when they finally got to our roof to be fixed last and pulled out a long 4"×4" post out of the roof right above where I was sleeping. 🌪 Sycamore estates... Muscatine Iowa, June 1 2007

That is so sad, people being displaced from their homes due to this. Hopefully, it can be remedied and those affected can return. Thanks for bringing this to our attention JP, it just proves you never know what lurks below any of us! Like Ranthra1 stated below, our area we live in here in NE Ohio is heavily populated by these mines, many of them unknown as to their locations due to them being dug during the 1800's when there was no concern about mine subsidence.

Glad to hear that no one was harmed, are hearts go out to the people displaced by this

We lived on Main St. GL for years and I'd occasionally feel the quake of collapsing galleries beneath us while sleeping, same in W-B also. I'm so happy not to be in that valley any more. This HIGHLIGHTS the decisions of where low income housing is built. on top of mine shafts, land fills, next to sewage plants etcetera. Wonder how high the Radon levels are there. Had friends that lived there, thank god they got out some years ago. All of the mined areas in the Valley should be off limits for habitation and the land bought out by the Government. One earthquake could collapse the entire valley and flood it. I feel for the displaced families, many trapped there by circumstances. Thanks for the reporting!

@colinperkins8794

9 ай бұрын

Should be made a atv park

Great work covering this incident. It might not have open under any of the houses, but I don't think you can get much closer than that. Extremely fortunately nobody was hurt or worse.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

The scary part is the entire underworld of this valley is a honeycomb of mine tunnels and shafts. Many are flooded which washes away any material used to plug up the holes. It's bound to happen again and may be worse next time.

The city of Belleville Illinois is currently suffering from similar conditions. A Ruler Foods store (kroger) is closed as well as the surrounding streets due to a sudden abandoned mine subsidence.

That's terrible possibilities as many holes as you've shown in the state . Very concerning .are prayers are with all involved. Thanks Jay . Central California watching.

Thank Ophelia. Glad no one was hurt. More rain tomorrow. I don't see that sinkhole getting filled fast enough. That's gonna take a LOT of dirt.

Thank you Jay for sharing this!!! So glad that no one was hurt!!!Prayers for everyone that might live there in the future, that this doesn't happen again 🙏🙏🙏 God bless you, keep you healthy and safe 🙏❤️🙏

This whole area is built above mine shafts and tunnels. They even go under the Susquehanna River. It's the sad reality of Northeast Pennsylvania

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct. Knox mine disaster is another example of the earth opening up due to improper operations and lack of safety.

At 5:09, I like that you are talking while the drone is in the air.

Situation could have ended horribly. Hopefully this gets resolved and the families will be able to move back into their homes.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Since this is the second time it happened, it very well could happen again and be much worse.

I love your videos

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Thanks

@Mysticphantom

10 ай бұрын

@@JPVideos81 your welcome JP

Great video JP I'm still waiting for you to come back on Sunday evenings

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Those were fun, but that spawned because of the pandemic. Those days are behind us now.

4:34 "Scary that it could go down 750 feet" 💥Shocking, homes built over that hole! Kimberley BC Canada a past mine 30 skyscraper floors equiv. is below; but it's through ROCK, not soil.

Always such a sad ordeal to see families displaced by natural disasters. All we can do is pray for the families affected by this and hope, that sooner than later, they will be able to return to their homes. But hopefully in the meantime, God's amazing grace will be with them in the form of a temporary housing provision. Will be looking forward to a happier video down the line. Until then stay safe and God bless. Steve in Oklahoma

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Sadly this is a man-made disaster

Wayyy to jump on this!!! You and like 4 other KZread channels I follow jumped on this faster than a kid at a piñata breaking!!

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

I wanted to come yesterday, but rain didn't wanna give up.

That's a dam shame, peoples homes getting swallowed up. Buyers beware, always check the mine subsidence insurance website to see if the home or apartment your buying or renting has mines below. Tell your family & friends to check the address first. Also property with mines below also have a high risk for Radon gas, this gas causes cancer. I'm in western PA and a friend had property with a shaft and they pushed old cars down the shaft to help block it shut & everything else that was solid, rocks, concrete etc, back in the 1960"s. The worst are the long wall mines supported with timbers & flooded, as the wood rots it collapses and folks homes sink along with it.

SO Scary and sad for the affected families who are facing homelessness and can't even retrieve belongings, the risk of further collapse is too real. Jay, your coverage of this event is better than the one local story I found about this, and I haven't seen anything on national news yet. Your drone footage, although showing something so scary, was excellent and goes far beyond what can be captured with a simple photo from a local paper. All your years in photography and video production has really honed your skills into excellent journalism for something like this. Glad you were there to document this, and I hope all the affected residents will all find new homes.🙏💙

I read about this earlier. Thanks for taking us to see it. The drone images were great. Amazing that the hole stopped just before taking the building.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Could of been much worse, but still a scary situation.

Same happen in vancouver island some coal close 100 years ago now bc gov't in victoria have huge problems repair is not cheap and easy fix.thank you video😮

Good job Jay! Thanks for getting that drone in the air for us!

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video

That is a big sink hole, wow! Definitely looks like that building will go down, sink holes are unpredictable. All that rain makes it much worse, 750feet is deep.

Thanks for great reporting JP. That drone view really helps. I’m surprised how close that dozer is getting.

That would’ve been so frightening!! And those poor people may not get to return to retrieve their belongings…very sad…but no one was hurt is what’s important!! Thanks for sharing this!! 💖🙏🏻💙💖🙏🏻💙💖🙏🏻💙

I hope everyone is okay and that sinkhole gets filled

I once was exploring with Chris and the UGM at a new home development with my nice single spec homes. The UGM guys said these people have no idea how undermined their land is. This won’t be the last major subsidence. $$$ overlooks what lies beneath.

terrifying. i had one open up in my back lot. i backed into it with my forklift not knowing it was there. the forklift broke through and i jumped off. it took us 7 hours to get it out of the hole. it ended up being about 5 feet deep and wide. turns out there was an old concrete septic tank underneath. we had no idea it was even there!

Who's bright idea was it to build homes essentially right on top of a huge, filled in mineshaft? You've got to think that with the miles of tunnels below, that eventually it would do exactly as it did.

@matthewblodgett1789

10 ай бұрын

I said the same thing!

@mikes62soupcan

10 ай бұрын

They are Luzerne County low income housing. This could possibly happen anywhere in this area.

@Ron-rs2zl

10 ай бұрын

All about money. Somebody probably got paid off and developers got cheap land.

@christinem2511

9 ай бұрын

It was probably only capped not filled.

I remember when I lived in Pittsburgh, one of these holes swallowed up an elderly care home.

Thank you Jay for sharing this with us

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

My pleasure.

Thoughts and prayers for all those affected and that are involved. Great reporting JPVIDEOS. 💙✝️🇺🇲👍🙂

My question is, why in the world would they build house right where there was holes for a working mine? We all know that the holes for mines do not just go down in a straight light. It is obvious the hole was not filled properly after the mine closed before they built the houses. Such a shame that these people are losing their homes over this.

@MikeOrkid

10 ай бұрын

The whole entire valley is this way. Some of the mine workings are deep underground where it won't really affect the surface vs others (like this) where the workings lead right to the surface. Unfortunately it's luck of the draw with these subsidences. I live about 20 miles from here and there are small subsidences that happen every few years around homes in my town. The unfortunate nature of the beast.

@Ranthra1

10 ай бұрын

Alot of the time noone even knows there was a mine there. That one, however, I'm sure some knew but never thought this would happen.

@Alcochaser

10 ай бұрын

Yes but, they built these right over the shaft. Whoever did this should be held liable for this @@MikeOrkid

@MikeOrkid

10 ай бұрын

@@Alcochaser Don't forget, these shafts (air and ore) were backfilled but if you know anything about the coal industry (especially back in the day) everything was to save a dollar with no regard for life. I've been to this area and have seen the veins of coal. The pitch is like nothing I've seen. I'm actually surprised more of this hasn't happened in this area specifically.

@tiffanyshanley1419

10 ай бұрын

This is just how it is here. The majority of northeast PA is built above abandoned coal mines. It's like living on toothpicks. New housing and industrial developments are drilled to see if they need to be backfilled first. My mother's house is over 100 years old. Surprisingly mine subsidence is not that common. It is, but not as much as you'd think. You hear about it every so often. I'm sure most of us has had it happen on our property or nearby it. But sinkholes and mine subsidence are not the same. I've seen whole homes swallowed. Not in person, in old photos. It's normal to us lol

thanks JP !

That’s incredible J! That hole is huge. I've seen Florida sink holes but nothing like that. I hope those people get to go back. I would ask why they allow building there but like you said. There’s areas like that all over the valley.

Great coverage - thank you. I grew up northeast of Pittsburgh and remember a small shopping center sinking significantly.

@JPVideos81

9 ай бұрын

I heard about that

Good stuff JP

Why would they put homes around an old mining area anyways ???? All for a quick buck now its gonna cost thousands of dollars to fill it and or condemn the homes for good just wow great video jp ❤❤❤❤

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

The mine bosses didn't care about safety or what might happen decades later. All these companies are long gone and their pockets got lined and now we have to deal with the aftermath. The sad truth is that there's 1000s of homes & buildings built over old mine workings.

@Vegasparanormal

10 ай бұрын

It's crazy, and back then selfish of them but I really hope they get it filled and those people can get back Into their homes this is just so sad for those that had to evacuate

Thank you

Thank God no one was back there enjoying that open grassy area when it happened!!!

Could of been much worse. Thankfully the homes didn't collapse. Glad you were able to make it there and provide great information. I agree with you there's many many mines in the Wyoming Valley and unfortunately can happen again, sure hope not. I saw a few sink holes in Wilkes Barre Twp but nothing like that. Keep up the good work

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

It will happen again. Just a matter of when.

Great video. I appreciate when you put yr reporter hat on and give accurate, no hype of local stories as u did when the small plane crashed in a neighborhood near Scranton. Do you intend to return to Glen Lyon for an update?

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

I may go back sometime to show how it looks afterwards.

That drone is awesome....good video....

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Thanks Rick

How scary for the families! Thankful noone was hurt!

Interesting video. I was looking for a video that might have shown more progress and found a video that looked like it was recorded in the 80's and it showed a video of the same property with the same sinkhole. Further looking and a similar sized sinkhole did appear in the exact same place in 1983.

Nice job, great vid with drone !

Great coverage.i used to live in glen Lyon . Happy to see no one got hurt. But I think just dumping rock and fill is not going to stop it. It's a bandaid. Good wishes for the misplaced people

I live in a town in illinois that was a coal mining town as well. My question is, why don't they implode the mines when they are done with them. To allow for ground to settle before allowing anything to be built above where old shafts & and tunnels are. Basically, condem the ground for a set time and then test ground for stability. You have all types of mines coal, gold, silver, copper, salt, lithium, diamond. I'm sure the list is larger. But all that is left are holes for us to be sucked into later. We just don't know when. There should be disclaimers before buying any property for this reason.

That is a very interesting story. I wonder what was done to originally close it off. Some beams maybe were set like arches and then fill placed over them. It may have been a great place to have just dumped the town's garbage. Maybe they did that. Eventually much of the material decomposes and settles. It must have been assumed that the buildings were far enough away from the shaft to be safe.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Different mine companies used Different methods, but usually the cheapest way possible. It was common to place narrow gauge rail across the opening and then cover it. They never thought or considered what could happen decades later.

@timramich

10 ай бұрын

​@@JPVideos81It's insane what mining companies get away with. It's as if there's never been any oversight by the USGS. Deep pit mines cam cause earthquakes from stresses on faults being relieved, and then once they're done and let them fill with water, earthquakes again, but much more intense ones.

Always interesting content

That dozer driver has balls driving that close to an unstable sinkhole.

Wow, that's crazy! So old mines here in the West are usually in the middle of nowhere, but out there in the East as far as I understand it, in places like PA, old mine networks underground could be anywhere and close to people right? Explains this massive sinkhole. Amazing coverage JP! I wonder what the residents from that building felt when the hole opened up. Must have been insane.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

Mines out west are much safer as they are typically in hard rock and dry. Many of these mines are flooded and under unstable ground. It's a recipe for disaster.

@milesandhikes

10 ай бұрын

@@JPVideos81 true too. They’re bone dry. So are these collapses common over there? I would imagine they happen more than I imagine

@jamessurveyor4859

10 ай бұрын

​@@AnthraciteHorrorStoriesmost of the cities in Poland are built on top of old, active, coal mines. Driving down the street is like a roller coaster. 1800 feet deep and dozens of coal seams mined out.

Wow! Just wow! 😮

Wow, talk about scary. So glad a child wasn't there playing or anyone else was back there. I would say that building will be permanently condemned. Who knows what sort of structural damage is done to the foundation that we can't see. Feel so bad for those families. Hopefully they'll be able to retrieve their stuff. I know I would not want to move back there in any of those buildings. Thanks for the excellent coverage.

WoW.. That's crazy bad.. My prayers go out to those affected..🙏

very scary for sure...glad everyone got out.

Please keep us updated

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

New update coming Monday.

@jerrylowden1977

10 ай бұрын

@@JPVideos81 Heck yeah 💯. Ty brother

Omg, JP, when I saw the hole, my heart sank in fear. I'm just thinking about all those poor families not knowing that one day or night, they could have lost their lives due to their whole place falling into the Sink Hole/ or Mine Shaft.

I've only been there once years ago on Shared Ride transportation we had to pick up some there

thats a big one, pretty scary, glad everyone was safe, you do take some footage jp, take care

Good job done , on your Ariel video; JP… as always; I enjoy your videos

I'm glad nobody was hurt or killed. But it is sad that this set of circumstances has evolved. May thise who live there stay safe from potential danger.

Is there any way to find out how they filled in that 750ft hole after the mine was closed? Maybe a written history somewhere? That's a long way to have filled in to the surface.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

There might be documents somewhere? There's no way they filled it all the way up. They most likely made an artificial cap with ties or rails and covered that up.

Omg that's frightening 😮 imagine if kids were playing in that backyard 😢 that's unthinkable!! I honestly don't understand why they build property over mines!! It's a disaster waiting to happen. I'm just happy no one was hurt!! 😉👍

My great grandfather used to go down that shaft in the 30's, 40's and 50's...the retired him early with a payment for "black lung"

Wow, trees slapped the roof, left leaves, but I don’t see BIG TALL TREES IN HOLE… yowzers!

When we lived in Plymouth Pennsylvania, we lived next to a mine field that had huge piles of the "black sand". The land shook and we thought for sure we were going to suffer subsidence. It's a real possibility and it's frightening.

@pamelanoel8948

10 ай бұрын

@AnthraciteHorrorStories , we lived at 89 West Broadway in Plymouth. Our backyard faced the area I'm talking about. You can Google a satellite image of it, but it looks like they've done some work on the land. Still a lot of black hills though.

@pamelanoel8948

10 ай бұрын

@AnthraciteHorrorStories , I don't know to many of the mines up there, I only lived in the area for about 5 years. I've heard subsidence horror stories from some of the people I had gotten to know. Was also told about coal pirates trying to make parallel shafts to mines to steal the coal, and it ended up flooding the mine. Those mines are still full of the Susquehanna River water.

I would like to the surveys for this area,town planning must have known what lays beneath,mine shafts are normally recorded,is this a quick flick scheme worth a look.

That's crazy!

Thanks for video that so sad they can't go back to get there stuff

Did you see the pics the underground Miners posted of the first collapse? You could see the actual shaft! Nice to meet you today as well--Ryan

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

I shared those pictures on my fb page. Nice meeting you too.

Just Wow!!!😮😮😮

Ey um Bob, where do ya think we outta put the projects up? How bouts on top of the old mine shaft?

Respect to those operators. I thought those houses and everything near them were going in next. 😅

I feel for the people who lived there they loose everything and it’s not there fault I sure hope they are compensated for there losses

Central California watching

Thanks for the maps etc.,, I was following along with the aerial views from 1950s and 1960s and present day Google. BTW, several of your still pics at the end, I am sure you saw that old brick "stack-like" thing sticking out of the ground with the pipe below. What the heck was that? No question that was from the original mine workings, but I do not know enough about mines to know what that is. Thanks again, that was great.

@authjw

10 ай бұрын

I think he said that was part of the old head frame

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

A viewer confirmed that the pipe is a borehole and that is a large concrete cap on top of it.

@glennsmith3303

10 ай бұрын

wow, how did I miss you explaining that and the blue circle!! Sorry, great job.@@JPVideos81

the amazing part that shows the scale, hole vs huge dump truck of gravel is like having a hole the size of an 80s Buick and filling it one thimble of sand at a time. That method will only work if the hole doesnt eat up more of the earth as it's dumped into it, you will need a mountain of fill to fully cap that off

This can happen more often if the mining was done using a longwall system. Which basically takes all the coal and leaves no pillars to support the roof. I mined underground coal for over twenty two years. In a room and pillar mining operation, it's a much slower process and the roof falls are generally less spectacular and can take many years to come all the way to the surface, if at all. Unless, the pillars are also mined as you pull back. Even then, it's not as spectacular as longwall mining.

@Ariccio123

10 ай бұрын

Realtalk - why don't we dispose of coal ash by dumping it back in the long wall mines? Seems like a good fit and might slightly reduce subsidence?

Did they actually condemn them? WNEP reported the residents will be able to return after they get the sinkhole filled. This was scary. I use to work for the Headstart program, and we had many families involved that lived here.

@JPVideos81

10 ай бұрын

They were immediately condemned because they are not safe, but that can be lifted once the situation is rectified.

The most they can do with an active subsidance like that is to temporarily stabilize the buildings so that the residents can claim the remainder of their belongings.