This is a really good example of why you don’t predetermine somebody’s “guilt” based solely on how they act during an interrogation.

@amazingsupergirl7125

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I dislike all of those JCS inspired interrogation commentary videos. You can’t determine anything from body language or how something is worded, as the FBI has demonstrated. The only real way to interpret behavior is if you know the person very well and you know when they are acting weird. For example, if a couple has been married 30 years they are probably going to be able to tell if the other one is lying. But when interrogators meet a suspect for the first time and talk to them for a few hours there’s no way they can tell if they’re lying or not. The only way is if they confess, and that’s not always real.

@NatzTalk

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Yes it's a very good indication but grief and shock do hit everyone differently

@TooHooWrong

5 ай бұрын

It wasn’t JUST because of his ‘suspicious behavior.’ It was also because of the circumstance; she died in a room alone in a house full of people that didn’t look to be broken into. He said he had already been in the room with her in that position and left her like that. It all would naturally come off a little odd. They didn’t arrest him, but as detectives they did their job in being as diligent as they could considering everything.

@Suzanne-ds7wq

2 ай бұрын

Are you standing up for the criminal, police use a process of elimination which they are obligated to conduct, no matter what

It’s terrifying that if the guy hadn’t confessed, the fiancé could be in prison right now.

@bmstyty3549

Жыл бұрын

Not really cause they already had the guys dna

@NatzTalk

Жыл бұрын

Or if the forensics hadn't come back

@diaryofarealmom3264

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, so many innocent people rot away in prison because juries suck, but also just being wrong place at wrong time or the easiest person for cops to plant it on.

@nicoles7872

11 ай бұрын

Thank goodness for DNA .

@serenamurrell5234

11 ай бұрын

Fr. And how many people just admit stuff like that instead of deny,deny deny.

I’m so sick of hearing about cases of innocent people losing their lives because a WEAK justice system lets evil people back out into the community.

@johndonahue3509

Жыл бұрын

It's NOT THE SYSTEM ITS THE GOD-DAMNED DEMOCRAT MAYORS

@taragriffin449

Жыл бұрын

Blame your politicians as well. The people of California voted on 2 bills that essentially decriminalize a lot of crimes and let people out early because they were wrapped up in a pretty package. A pile of poop wrapped up in a nice box is still a pile of poop.

@johnadams2063

Жыл бұрын

Oh what u dont believe in rehabilitation?? Oh my god. U dont believe in rehabilitation for these sick perverts?? U cant rehabilitate these scum bags . Why are we even trying it for in the first place. I had to do it myself

@nathandevine437

Жыл бұрын

@@johnadams2063 waæqAe aww

@johnadams2063

Жыл бұрын

@@nathandevine437 most people do. There already habilitated. That's why there not in a prison. U cant rehabilitate these people there scum bags. So stop crying

None of these men should ever be set free. I felt so bad for her mother when she was reading her statement. RIP Frances.

@johndavis9432

Жыл бұрын

Not only should they never regain their freedom,they shouldn't be allowed to continue living.

@shahidabdoullakhanzorovr1564

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisJones-yu9rz Why was he in their home, brainiac? And she wasn't even the intended target...or did you not watch the video? 🤡🤡🤡

@tessaducek5601

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisJones-yu9rz Miss ur meds today did ya

@tessaducek5601

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisJones-yu9rz Oooooooh... I see. You base your comment upon what day it is... As if that makes perfect sense. Have you ever considered forming your own opinions and using none social media idiocies to covey your comments?? It is laughable when some idgit uses an expiration date on their own outrageously inane statement. Thought process is easy. But in your case. Don't try this at home!

@snippyJ

Жыл бұрын

I felt her rage in my own heart, too. 😥

Her mothers statement was so powerful. It brought me to tears. Rest In Peace Frances.

@as48507

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@katmanluke7187

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. That was rough! 😢 My grandparents that I was extremely close to were murdered by a reckless half-drunk 16 yr old in a violent head-on in 1989. No sorry, no admission of guilt, & his only "punishment" was license suspended 1 yr. Different but the same. I was just 21 & here I am 53 & I never got over that. Especially in my younger days when they should've still been here enjoying their later yrs. Every time you wanted to ask them something it hit you. Sometimes still do that. Such is life...

@OrangeCat1992

Жыл бұрын

I was in tears as well. Completely heartbreaking.

@Catie2010

Жыл бұрын

Me too. 😭

@gmachineq

Жыл бұрын

Me too. What an amazingly strong person.

The fact that her mailman attended her funeral broke me. Such a small part of all our lives yet she had made an impact. How many of us ignore the small and import the big. She seemed to truly be a bright light. Love to all she left behind.

@meredithgrubb4497

Жыл бұрын

That got me too

@DreDray

Жыл бұрын

Mail men are not a small part of our lives….

@cynlovespugs

Жыл бұрын

The good ones are always taken from us way too early. They are needed in Heaven.

@Karenanneseven

4 ай бұрын

I love the compassion & thoughtfulness of true crime subscribers. 90% are truly nice people 🫶

@mommyshark1124

Ай бұрын

​@@Karenanneseven🫶🏽💖🫶🏽

Finally a mother that shows the hate that I expect from someone who has lost a loved one ❤️ I can't understand people who say "I forgive you" to a monster/s like this....All the love and respect to the family ♥️

@fairysnuff-000

4 ай бұрын

Usually the forgiveness is not for the perpetrator, but for the mothers own peace of mind Forgiving someone doesn’t mean you agree with what they have done, it means you let anger, hate and resentment out of your own heart and mind toward them to keep yourself from being a balled up, shrivelled lump of damaging thoughts ….. if you can’t clear your mind from this, the bastard murderer gets another victim .. and you live consumed for the rest of your life…

These parole boards need to be held to the same level of accountability the rest of us would be if in doing our job, we made decisions that resulted in someone's death. These people are more motivated by feeling an unnatural compassion for the guilty, and a disinterest in the safety of the innocent.

@terrylutze4939

Жыл бұрын

There selection process is probably go eenie, meanie, mymie moe, ok you're out on parole :)

@LittleBittySaidit

Жыл бұрын

@@terrylutze4939 lol! Good one! It’s true tho, they should be held accountable! They let anyone be a parole officer these days.

@jessemerrill6481

Жыл бұрын

Very well said Lisa! I agree with you 100%! It’s disgusting how often I hear stories similar to this one! How in the world is a person that was found guilty of terrible crimes allowed back on the streets?! I’ve heard numerous people that have been to prison say that when they were released they had become better more calculated criminals, they say prison is like going to college for criminals, they learn better techniques and more ways to get away with crime! So for whomever it was that allowed these evil, non human, monsters back onto the streets should be given the same amount of time in prison as the criminals they released get! They don’t care about these families being devastated they just want to score some woke points so they can say they are one with the people,!any state that lets harden criminals back out should be required to let the criminals stay in their state and be required to keep tabs on the criminal and if the criminal commits any crime the person that let them out should sit in the same cell as them for the same amount of time! It’s sad our Country have become this soft with padded corners so no one gets their feelings hurt even though they have no feelings and didn’t think twice about stabbing a innocent woman that was an actual contributing member of society and not some low life drug dealer that things they are tough for killing a woman! 🖕🏻

@charmaineswaddle2286

Жыл бұрын

Well said..

@NatzTalk

Жыл бұрын

Well said

I went to High School with Frances. Truly a tragic loss. She was kind to me when I needed someone and had no one. Her best friend still has to be in shock over losing her. I feel for everyone involved.

@missjody5803

Жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry for your loss 😪

@justinparkerthewildwolf6394

Жыл бұрын

That's awful. I'm sorry

@jennypatterson5790

Жыл бұрын

@@missjody5803 s😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@jennypatterson5790

Жыл бұрын

😊😊😊

@jennypatterson5790

Жыл бұрын

@@missjody5803 iiiiiiiiiii😊i ii iisiiiisiii

It's terrifying that her fiance might have been blamed for something he didn't do just because he had an odd way of speaking and expressing himself after the shock of finding her.

@NatzTalk

Жыл бұрын

Yes which most cases it's true but like everything else.. There's always a 1% chance it isn't what was thought

@christopher419

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Good thing the cops actually did their jobs

@Col92519

Жыл бұрын

No due process in the justice system anymore.

@Boobeinstein

Жыл бұрын

It was more the fact that he offered an excuse as to why she had died (suic!de no less when she was planning an event she'd been looking forward to) that raised suspicion. That and the fact that she was stabbed 90 times, a clear indication of a crime of passion. But I doubt they would have locked him up on a hunch with no physical evidence. He'd just be a veeeeeery suspicious guy at best.

@slicedbread5692

Жыл бұрын

​@@Col92519 no due process? This is the perfect example of due process. The guy wasn't charged for the crime he didn't commit. He was rightfully questioned but he's a free man. What are you talking about?

It is mind blowing how calm her fiancée was in the 911 call. Must have been in severe shock. Goes to show not to judge someone's reaction to murder. He seemed like he had to be guilty. I hope her loved ones and especially the daughter that found her body find peace one day. God bless them all.

@NatzTalk

Жыл бұрын

Right?!!

@deniseuhlry9988

Жыл бұрын

Having worked a graveyard shift of 12 hours myself....let me tell you, there is very little NORMALCY to your reactions.

@dawnjones6138

Жыл бұрын

I agree!

@factcheck5224

Жыл бұрын

Even though her fiancé did not have anything to do with her death, the fact that he didn’t bother to check on her was she was laying between the bed and the WALL!! And his absolutely unemotional tone on the 911 call, and in the police interview (suggesting it was a suicide?) makes me believe he is a cold and unfeeling person.

@levithewonderdog335

Жыл бұрын

​@@deniseuhlry9988 I regularly worked 12 hour day and nightshifts for years....other than being very tired end of shift if I'd walked into the bedroom and seen the fiance in a funny position with streaks that he thought may be drink ....then saying that she rarely drank....I sure as hell would have investigated to see if they were ok despite the risk of him be shouted at for waking her up like he said she would. And usually after a 12 hour shift it takes a little time to wind down but then I also suppose it depends on which line of work you are in. The poor girl 😢

Murderer let out on parole and he murdered again. I believe murderers should never be let out

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

@mommyshark1124

Ай бұрын

Definitely 💯

I'm really glad it didn't turn out to be the fiance, because so many of these stories take that turn. Most murders are committed by someone in the victim's inner circle. This, this was an abomination of tragic mistakes and unfeeling killers. I mean, you have a woman completely at your mercy, tied to her bed, her babies in the next rooms, and when she doesn't give you what you want you stab her 90 times??!! That's overkill in the worst possible sense. Nobody deserves that, in particular someone who is utterly innocent as Frannie was. I'm appalled that this case is even going to appeals. These guys should never again see the light of day.

@codisha2970

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, her fiancé seems like a chill dude. I’m glad it didn’t turn out that way.

@FaithandNova

Жыл бұрын

@@codisha2970 her fiancé seemed cold to me

@codisha2970

Жыл бұрын

@@FaithandNova People process shock and guilt in different ways. I had my suspicions at first, but I’m just glad it didn’t turn out that he did it.

@NikkiC777

Жыл бұрын

When I heard the 911 call and the beginning of his police interview, I thought for sure he had done it. He just seemed soooo unaffected by the whole thing. It was very odd. Edit: Of course they just keep letting people out, that should really be in prison. One was a murderer, and one was a "well known" Heroin dealer, and one was an arsonist. So I don't get why they were out walking free in society, just waiting to ruin someone else's life.

@Seemashe

Жыл бұрын

Death is more justified. Tax payers money spend millions on these vermons

This should be a lesson...you don't parole killers. They deserve death.

@michellebaca1024

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@zippyblessed839

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@Claudia-es8jv

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@xjshe1982

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@KellyBurnett138

Жыл бұрын

Take a life, you will NEVER be able to walk free with the rest of us…except in self defense! 😡🤬

Can’t say I have ever seen so much anger and emotion in a single court room as I have seen in the clips here. Usually a lot of tears take over. Her family is strong!!!

@t33ny76

Жыл бұрын

And that prosecutor. I’ve never heard anything like that. Truly powerful

@cocoono11

Жыл бұрын

@@acidheadzzz I haven’t, actually. I will be sure to, though! I think since I have heard so much about his case and death that I pay more attention to the cases I haven’t heard of yet.

@tiffanydegoya

Жыл бұрын

@@acidheadzzz I thought of the Dahmer victim impact statements too, the lady who was screaming “Jeffrey I HATE YOU!!!!” , her statement gave me chills 😢

@cocoono11

Жыл бұрын

@@acidheadzzz I think I opened up a big can of impact statement freakouts! So many that I’d never seen before 💔

@cdes1776

Ай бұрын

A lot of tears took over. Think about it.

All murders are a heinous crime, but this is one of the most senseless I've heard. Money, drugs, retaliation, jealousy - it's usually one of those. This woman paid for nothing she owed. Terribly sad case. And to know 2 of them had murdered before and were released! Wtf! NEVER let any of these monsters out of prison ever again!! ~RIP Ms Craig 🌹🕊

@leeduncan6595

Жыл бұрын

I agree. In the UK you can have a life sentence for murder and get 15 years like my uncle by marriage. He shouldn't have got that cause the guy he killed was trying to kill him. In America I bet my uncle would have walked free cause if he didn't kill the guy it would have been him dead. That 1 thing I agree with Americas self defence laws. Like killing burglars. In the UK you can get life for killing a man who is armed with a knife and in your home with your wife and babies asleep upstairs so he does what comes instinctively natural to protect his family and if he kills that piece of shit who shouldn't be in someone's family home dies because of a hero father, the burglar becomes the victim and the children he was protecting grow up fatherless and with a mother who has had a mental breakdown cause she may as well wished the burglar killed her husband as she could have atleast got his life insurance policy. In America this would never happen. I know in Texas thar you can unload clips into home invaders and the cops pat you on the back for it. Not here though. Just like 20 years ago when this farmer shot 2 shit bag gypsies after his home and farm were constantly robbed. He killed 1 but the other survived. He got life but the county went up in arms about it and was eventually freed. Google British farmer Mr Francis jailed for life for shooting dead and wounding 1 burglars. I'm sure it's Francis.

@Luna.3.3.3

Жыл бұрын

@@leeduncan6595 I see your point. However, I think every country has flaws in their justice system. I watch a lot (too many? 🙄) crime channels and see many perpetrators that are let off easy (imo) and some countries are over board. As far as the US, I agree with self defense, but _they have WAAY too many 'effing guns!_ 😡. (>>Let's try and count how many mass school shootings, churches, malls, Walmarts, etc.!) No.. I do NOT envy my southern neighbours - keep your guns down THERE. I'm pretty sure here in Canada self defense is a valid reason to hurt the other (I should ask my brother, he's a cop! Lol) Then sometimes I think our 'life sentence' of 25 years isn't enough for some. There will always be 'holes' in every system, I think. I will look up Mr. Francis. Maybe it's worth a suggestion to this channel to do a story? I think it would be good for crime channels to do stories on _INjustice_ too! ~Greetings from across the pond 🇨🇦

@capo4ever334

Жыл бұрын

They burned down a woman's home and left her and her son homeless all becuase she wouldn't sell drugs for them. Then, because a guy witnessed it, they decided to kill him but instead got his address wrong and murder a poor innocent woman instead. They NEVER should have been let out of prison

@desertraindrops9840

Жыл бұрын

@@leeduncan6595 I am so sorry that happened to your Uncle. What he, his kids, wife, and all who love them have had to endure is unimaginable. And so very, very wrong! He had every right to kill the piece of shit who invaded his home, endangering he and his family! What a good, and brave man. What happened to him breaks my heart. You're right, here in the United States he would most likely never have been prosecuted. So many problems with justice systems, no matter where you live. It's so disheartening. I don't know when this happened, but I hope all involved are doing better, and are able to overcome this terrible trauma. Sending love, and prayers from America...💗

@late3619

10 ай бұрын

This is where people that parole murders should be held responsible in some way. Automatic lose of job, civil suit and maybe some form of criminal charges and cannot work in any form of law enforcement ever.

Man my heart goes out to her fiancé, how many months did he have to live with everyone thinking he did this horrific crime while trying to process the tragedy and grieve for losing his loved one? I know that I, along with probably 99% of everyone else watching this had already concluded it was him. I wouldn't wish that on anyone! And before anyone mentions his demeanour on the phone to 111 or his police interviews, everyone processes events differently. Shock, disbelief, stoicism, possibly on the spectrum for Asperger's or under the influence of prescription or recreational drugs etc. I know for a fact if had come across that scene I would be calling a lawyer first before dialling 111.

@karenhouser4123

Жыл бұрын

And that would appear to make you look guilty because your first thought was for yourself not the victim.

@ultimatewitcherfan6677

Жыл бұрын

Sorry skootlez, but I have to agree with Karen Houser. Getting a lawyer before calling 911 would make you look extremely suspicious. If I was a police officer and found out you had gotten a lawyer before reporting a crime, you would be my #1 suspect

@5.0joe50

Жыл бұрын

@@ultimatewitcherfan6677 did he get a lawyer before calling 911?

@SteimieStinker

Жыл бұрын

You feel bad for her fiance? He was a cheater. RIP cousin Frannie

@5.0joe50

Жыл бұрын

@@SteimieStinker did he get a lawyer before he called 911??

Her mother made me cry. She was angry and she had every right to be. I wish, when things like this happens, the family is given a baseball bat and given permission to release that anger and hurt by beating the crap out of them. I know those feelings will never go away, but I feel like it would definitely help heal.

@poerava

Жыл бұрын

The data shows this doesn’t help people heal. If you’re interested in sharing things that actually help people.

@pollystamper9660

Жыл бұрын

@@poerava I don't really care about the data. It's how I felt at the moment. Don't judge me.

@poerava

Жыл бұрын

@@pollystamper9660 Then you are a part of the problem, not the solution.

@pollystamper9660

Жыл бұрын

@@poerava oh my goodness 🤣

@Goregirl08

Жыл бұрын

They absolutely should be able to. These people are wastes of space and sadly now tax payers get to keep them alive when they deserve the worst

90 Times?? That’s overkill . That poor girl 😞 she didn’t deserve that .

@myunknownland9272

Жыл бұрын

Personal?

@lexiaaforever437

Жыл бұрын

@@myunknownland9272 Honestly I Feel He only killed her because She already saw him of course at her house tying her up & if he had let her go she would of went to police . So I felt he did that because he knew he messed up . She was collateral damage. But that’s just me . 🤷🏽‍♀️

@lexiaaforever437

Жыл бұрын

@@needaladyfriend1 exactly & he had no type of emotion . For someone to have been in a true relationship with you … he didn’t show he cared whatsoever .

@justnoted2995

Жыл бұрын

signs of an evil, weak man... truly dangerous when you cross him, and deserving of the death penalty

@lexiaaforever437

Жыл бұрын

@@justnoted2995 Exactly. All of them needed it . You kill her & still go after him meanwhile you have other murder charges against you 🤦🏽‍♀️ they truly need to be UNDER The JAIL

I am honestly shocked that her fiancee had nothing to do with it, but this just goes to show why it's so important to do a thorough investigation. Also, I feel like soliciting a murder to cover up an arson is the kind of toiletbrain move that you only see in career criminals that should never have been let out of prison in the first place.

@samsamcupcakes6476

Жыл бұрын

Spoiler...

@Nika.1922

Жыл бұрын

the second i heard the 911 call, i was like “he did it”

@Jackgritty28

Жыл бұрын

Her body discovered,shocked by the horrific crime,evidence sent to the lab, suicide was blamed,but that was odd.Eric now a suspect,claimed innocence,but the way he reacted was odd,did he have an alibi,forensics took time.The unease in the community,as a result of the investigation,Cortez butler was now a suspect because of DNA,he said he was the culprit.Was it a drug deal gone wrong,A witness to an arson was the motivation,collateral damage means she was innocent,Ryan was the target🚩

@samsamcupcakes6476

Жыл бұрын

@@Jackgritty28 Sorry, what's her fiancé's name?

@Jackgritty28

Жыл бұрын

@@samsamcupcakes6476 eric

There should be a separate planet for people like these men. A place where anyone, male or female, who chooses violence in anything but a true self-defense situation can live with others like them. The rest of us can resolve issues like grown-ups.

@Zzzzzzzzaa

Жыл бұрын

There is already place like this for all of them… 6 feet under

@normatible9795

Жыл бұрын

Why spend Space fuel to transport them?

@JorgePetraglia2009

Жыл бұрын

Janis Kara : that's a nice idea but it will be more costly than putting them in places where the isolation works better than a very high wall. Just think about Northern Canada, as an example. In those places fences and walls are not really needed. Out there the local fauna would be the prisons guards (for free!!!), not to mention that to stay warm during the long winters one has to chop a lot wood. All you guys have to do is ask nicely (we do like nice and polite) and chances are we can do business together that will benefit both neighbours. I'm dead serious, just think about it.

@terrylutze4939

Жыл бұрын

An island perhaps.......and they are never allowed off......they will sort each other out :)

@janiskara6564

Жыл бұрын

@@JorgePetraglia2009 as long as they are permanently separated from the rest of us, I don’t care where they are. My point was just they live with others like them.

The narration in this channel is OUTSTANDING!!! I feel like they should easily hit the million subs very soon. 👏💕👏

@DodongoManoof

Жыл бұрын

Easily 😀😎😀😎

@wayneandrews9298

Жыл бұрын

That's because she's British & is not prone to that over the top , brash , loud & lame American nonsense ...

@Mr-gg8ek

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Top notch and generally a “just he facts” approach without all of the judgemental leading.

@tradeladder146

Жыл бұрын

@@wayneandrews9298 Exactly, its called Class.

@joethelion6016

Жыл бұрын

@@wayneandrews9298 I'm British, yes she has a good voice and approach but there are some good American narrators too. JCS channel for one.

Wow how disgraceful and disgusting these men are. What's even more disgraceful is the fact two had murdered before and one twice before!!!! Wtf are these men doing on the street??? My heart goes out to Frannys children and family. I also really would have liked to hear from her fiance, who sadly almost got charged with her murder. I wonder if there is any video of him after the murderers were caught????

@SteimieStinker

Жыл бұрын

Hear from her fake fiance? He had pretty much moved on before her body was in the ground. SMH

@Quizack

11 ай бұрын

@@SteimieStinker Vicky put the wine down.

@SteimieStinker

11 ай бұрын

@user-dq9rz9ku2i take your fake ass somewhere else. When you come back with a real profile, I might take you serious. The only one with the head in a bottle is dick twat and his side chic.

I wonder how many innocent people are in prison for murder because an aggressive prosecutor and lazy jury think the most likely suspect “probably did it” despite zero evidence? This is also a great example of how a 100% innocent person does not respond like armchair detectives think they should have and so those detectives ruthlessly deem that person guilty. Remember that the next time you hear an unsolved true crime case and it is inevitably said about a suspect, “they showed no emotion”.

@hennerzz3460

Жыл бұрын

It’s really scary huh - honestly I was so sure it was him given his reaction

@carolyns99

Жыл бұрын

I immediately thought the same. If it had turned out to be the fiancé there would have been numerous comments stating "I knew it was him as soon as I heard ...". Lindy Chamberlain taught me this lesson in my teens. People react differently. They can be weird. The can seem callous because they process shock and grief in different ways and some people just don't like to show emotion in public. Of course, I'm still guilty of gut reactions to things sometimes but I do try to pull myself back and remember not to judge on that alone. Thank heavens for the forensic evidence. In another time, he might have been cactus.

@Ams_5590

Жыл бұрын

Yessss!!! So glad to see someone bring this up!! Right away they thought he seemed guilty!! Thank God they didn't just run with it like most cops do. Truly makes you question just how many innocent people are being punished for nothing!!

@fredajordan5704

Жыл бұрын

Still, Eric is a very strange person to me, very strange.

@Mr-gg8ek

Жыл бұрын

@@fredajordan5704 The only thing that was strange was that he did not recognize she was dead or injured. However, we did not see exactly what he saw. There was blood on the bed but it was on the mattress. It was likely covered up by bedding when he looked in and therefore completely non visible. And people tend to think the mind is a recorder. It only takes a cursory look at eyewitness statements to illustrate how untrue that is. Five people within ten feet of a crime can have wildly different reports of what they saw even with obvious stuff like what color the perp was to whether or not he had a beard. To me the most likely explanation is expectation. No one walks in to their bedroom expecting to see a murdered family member on the floor. So unless there is something obvious you may not notice certain things. This is amplified in this case because he thought she was asleep and did not interact with her. I know I have had moments where I walked into the kitchen thinking my children would have left a mess and because of that expectation (and probably poor lighting) I actually saw the mess only to take a second look and turn the light to find it spotless. Most people have some comparable moment in their lives. He just had the misfortune to have a murder involved with his.

I just want to take this time to say that you guys are doing a really incredible job, how you narrate these stories, with updates to new crimes and so on, been a fan since 80K glad to see you guyz hitting 407K, this channel will hit a million subscribers soon also references are spot on and your narration are soothing💕

@hotmess2766

Жыл бұрын

@@realdeal2283 😂😂😂 yeah why is that ? That's why If I ever comment its about the victims or story never about the creator of the video. I couldn't care less who made the vids as these tragic murders have nothing to do with them nor should they be glorified

@hotmess2766

Жыл бұрын

Its like watching the news wtf would you glorify people bringing you news. They get paid... instead give condolences & prayers to innocent folks that were brutally murdered 🤷🏽‍♀️

@FallenAngel9979

Жыл бұрын

@@realdeal2283 Jealous

@africanquinn

Жыл бұрын

@@hotmess2766 then why don’t you make the videos if its that easy🙂

@hotmess2766

Жыл бұрын

@@africanquinn Some of my friends commented same thing as I can make/edit videos I studied Media communication & production in college but I choose to not as I am busy with better things now. I don't really enjoy it like these KZread/Facebook channels but anyone can do it hun its not hard lol

As a society we have to protect ourselves better from murderers. Once convicted they MUST never be allowed out. That includes children

This is why sometimes I believe in capital punishment. I hate that my tax money pays for people like this to live in prison.

@Stuart.Branson.

Жыл бұрын

I agree a death penalty would have been more apt in this case, but your "tax" money doesn't pay for anything real, it goes directly to the vatican. Prisons , hospitals, roads etc. are funded by newly printed or created debt unless privately funded. Most prisons nowadays are private owned and run. Did you think there were millions of government employees sitting around allocating everyones tax payments to projects. LOL . There aren't. They do not exist.

@user-mg1oq7ce4f

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@carolinaamnell5577

Жыл бұрын

I fully agree. I would like that money to be used in scholarships, Aiding people with illnesses or disabilities and doing something for the environment instead of feeding and taking care of criminals. The families of the criminals should pay for their expenses or make them work in jail to pay for their own food, clothes, medical attention and such like the rest of us.

@roheena1hussein

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. The only small comfort that I have about our tax money funding their parhetic lives is that I hope they truly suffer a sh*t life in prison. And that's worth it.

@Quizack

11 ай бұрын

Capital punishment costs many times more than a life sentence due to the all extra court cases and appeals, plus the cost of death row. If tax dollars is your concern, then life sentences are much cheaper.

This mother's righteous rage in her victim impact statement broke my heart & will stick with me for a long time💔😪

Growing up with a dad who was a sheriff's deputy gave me a healthy respect for LE, but I also lived in Michigan for a stretch, and worked at a sheriff department there, and based on THAT experience, I don't have much faith in the Michigan State Police (for multiple reasons) or their judicial system. It scares me that these wastes of space and oxygen may pull the wool over the appellate judge's eyes. Here's hoping they don't... but I'm not holding my breath.

@phillipsmom6252

Жыл бұрын

Go Blue

@andrewwilliams1788

Жыл бұрын

Can’t believe the Supreme Court are even hearing their application for appeal smh

@wizzardofpaws2420

Жыл бұрын

This is what happens in liberal run cities. Too soft on crime and the whole community suffers.

@hamy2456

Жыл бұрын

seeing as Michigan doesnt even have clean water for their people yea they would make a dumb choice for the people that live there.

@brianboyle5934

Жыл бұрын

I worked for the Sheriffs Dept for 23 years here in Mass, and believe me when I say that the only thing each of these scumbags deserve is a bullet between the eyes. The fact anyone is entertaining thoughts that there is any reason for giving them any kind of fair shake, makes my blood boil.

Absolutely shocking and horrific !!!! I hope that the last appeals are thoroughly rejected . I am just utterly grateful for DNA 🧬. When listening to the fiancé’s account, I genuinely was questioning, how on earth could he have walked in and out of that room without having a reaction ?? I very much believe that , if not for DNA , he would be in prison right now . God bless Francis and all who loved her xxx

@nataliekillingstad8414

Жыл бұрын

He just finished a 12 hour shift and was exhausted

@maria-gx1be

Жыл бұрын

When my mom died I had no reaction. I grieved 15 years later.

Damn, this is heartbreaking. Those 3 men are irredeemable and should never be released from prison. EVER! 💔

Listening to her mom's statement at the trial was tough. I feel for this family. I am also a mother and I can't imagine my kids finding me or being the one to explain such a horrific thing to them. Just awful. These evil people will be dealt with when they rot in hell for eternity. Waste of air

Really grateful you included the victim impact statement. Pretty sad that the perpetrators won't understand any of it coz its obvious they have no capacity to feel love.

@alteredcatscyprus

Жыл бұрын

Super low IQ individuals with no conscience plus a justice system with a misguided sense of compassion toward said low IQ, unrepentant, un-remorseful individuals is a super dangerous combination.

@jerimiller5651

Жыл бұрын

Or understand any other lingo besides good rat talk.

Those guys all look so horribly mean. Why they are out among law abiding people I will never know.

@extraterrestrialexcrement530

Жыл бұрын

Yeah,Like Reading Something Of A Paper... 🤔

@kateturner1849

Жыл бұрын

Soul-less, empty, zombies. They should have been executed. You can't reason with or rehabilitate a zombie. As long as they breathe, they will remain zombies. Too many human rights for empty creature's like these. 😔😡 The prosecutor was very good, she kind of showed up the stupidity of the "law" that released these things. May they rot. My very sad and heartfelt condolences to her family and friends.😔❤️🌹😢

The respect and compassion you two show to the victims of the crimes you cover is really unique among KZread crime channels. It leaves the viewers thinking of the victims, not the perpetrators. I really appreciate your work in this regard. Please keep doing what you do.

@TrulyCriminal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Les 🖤

Weird how the fiancee answered the questions

@cdes1776

4 ай бұрын

Shock can do that.

The lawyer that took on frances's case truly did honor her and her entire family that woman is the example that every lawyer should be, the lawyer was amazing

Thank you ladies for another incredible episode!! Ryan's angels were definitely with him that day. Had it not been for the forensics, I believe Eric would've been arrested and tried for Frannie's murder.

@katharina...

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, and very likely convicted too. This case is such an eye opener. RIP Frances.

The mother's statement was so absolutely powerful and heart wrenching. **Sigh** That poor, poor family.

Ladies, this is SO well done. Each week you not only bring a story to us, but you do it with such dignity, emotion and respect to those who've lives have been lost. Be very very proud of yourselves, there is, imo, noone on you tube like you. 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹(12 red roses! Corny yes, but sincerely meant.)

@TrulyCriminal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 🖤

@iamV10010

Жыл бұрын

What's the significance of the 12 red roses? Is it just a digital representation of giving someone a dozen roses as a gift or am I missing something?

"Hell is empty and all the devils are here." -Earth, probably

@mind-numbingtasks1575

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, humans are indistinguishable from demons.

Life in prison is such a waste of time, money, and resources. While the victim's families suffer forever these people will enjoy free housing, food, medical, recreation, and education for the rest of their lives.

@annikaz.1100

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you should spend some time in prison. You'll see how enjoyable it is then. 🙄

@princesabonita79

Жыл бұрын

@@annikaz.1100 i work in corrections.

RIP Francis. Sincere condolences to the family and friends. My heart breaks for her children and boyfriend. Let those mongrels rot in hell.

Poor Franny, what she endured is unspeakable. Many prayers to the families. RIP Angel 🕊🌾💖 As horrific as this case is you always give the poor victims Justice, kindness, respect, compassion and love my friend. You always tell these horrific stories with profound perfection that I give you much respect. You're awesome, please keep doing what you're doing my dear because you're giving the victims/families remembrance & always shone a light for all.👍🏻🤗💞 Lastly the mother & families "impact statement" had me in AWE!! I'm so glad they told those purely vile monsters had to hear that. Even if they acted like they weren't listing nor care, their words were so compelling, I hope & pray it wrecks them sometime in their rotten lives. What complete psychopathic & sociopathic monsters. 90 stab wounds, no words.🤦🏻‍♀️💔 Lastly, it really aggravates me when the admitted killers smile in their mug shots & court rooms. God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊❤❤❤

Love that she had the humor to call herself "Bridezilla" I bet she was a lot of fun to be around! RIP beautiful. Such a shame. ❤💔

I've seen scores of these crime stories. This is one with the most heinous, vicious attack on an innocent victim, in the sanctity of her own home. Depressing to be reminded that there are criminals like these out there in the world.

It just goes to show how some people react to shocking events. The fiancés behaviour would have seemed so suspicious

It really adds insult to injury, when the perp starts grinning from ear to ear in court.

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

No doubt. Disgusting.

This poor lady, bless her and rest peacefully. When I start watching these videos, I always have hope that it ends well. So terribly sad

@giddyup4232

Жыл бұрын

You're watching a criminal show and hoping for the best? 🤦‍♀️😂

I am relieved that it wasn't her fiancé! Her mother's victim impact statement made me tear up. Such a beautiful soul and those 3 P.O.S.s get to live out their lives in relative co.fort and ease. Disgusting! Excellent reporting as always!

When someone is found guilty of murder, it should mean an automatic life sentence & by that I mean for the rest of their life, not a set tarriff of however many years. How many people have died because murderers have been freed? If you take someone's life away, you should forfeit the priviledge of walking the streets again. Now, I know there are grey areas & I'm not going to go into them, but in the majority of cases, a whole life sentence should be handed down.

Isn't it great how violent criminals are paroled on "good behavior" and later turn out to mend their immoral ways and become upstanding citizens? Perhaps people on the parole board should be asked, "Would you allow this person to stay in your home and watch your children unsupervised while they find steady employment and search for a stable living environment? Why don't victim's families get to address the parole board members who let these animals out of their cages in the first place?

@Quizack

11 ай бұрын

Slave ships were the most effective Trojan horse ever made…

@heidibearss3455

5 ай бұрын

Victim's families do get to speak at parole hearings if they wish

Thanks truly criminal so covering this story. Frances was such a shining light in her family’s heart and that sense of gratitude enveloped those she loved and cared about. Her mums victim impact statement really moved me and I sincerely wish them all the best in this difficult journey. Rest In Peace Frances the world misses u x

You do such a great job! I love your videos!

This made think how many fiancés/boyfriends/husbands are convicted wrongly coz some police have it out for just one person based on their ‘hunch’ and ‘how that person reacted’ and won’t stop to look at other theories so they make their narrative fit into something that person dint do.The fiance did sound guilty af coz he was so nonchalant but that just goes to prove people do react very differently to such things.

Her mom is a boss! One of the best statements from a sentence hearing I have heard out of all the crime videos I watch.

Liked as soon as I opened the video coz you know it's going to be another amazing episode by Truly Criminal ❤️

@johnoneill7947

Жыл бұрын

Thank YOU 😊

Why was the fiancé so chill though? He sounded like he was calling for take out whenever he was on to the dispatcher!

@tinatrice1434

Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this comment .he said it like he could care less

@jimmyjohns7866

Жыл бұрын

Some people react to trauma and difficult situations differently, some people don't act like they do in movies or how people think they are supposed to act

@Fiona_Interrupted

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjohns7866 I fully understand that but jeez, he was going to marry her. There was no emotion whatsoever and she must have been in a horrific state. RIP

@loveforeignaccents

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was trying to remain as calm as possible because they had three little ones in the house?!

@hvymtlangel

Жыл бұрын

I think people can be in disbelief, and therefore, not fully processing what has happened.

The judge should have ordered that they had to listen to the victim statements. I've seen other defendants brought in restraints despite their protests. They keep appealing but how many murders need to be committed before they receive a life sentence?

Devastating, my heart goes out to her children and her family!

Thank you so much for the quality and consistent videos ❤️❤️

The amount of hurt and anger in her mother's impact statement was so powerful. Sounded like she might have been up to the task of stabbing these monsters to death after the powers that be flextie them and let her have at them.

Excellent speech from the mother. Emotional.

I only just found your channel and I love the attention to detail and respectful way you present the videos. This particular case is such evil and watching the murderers smirking at the cameras was most nauseating. Disgusting individuals.

I'm not oppossed to Public Executions for the most serious heinous crimes, if it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt!!! Now I'm NOT heartless, they have 10 years to file their appeals, and do all that legal stuff, but there is no reason why someone who commits a crime 50 years ago should still be alive and living on the tax payers dime!!!

The way that you handle these cases is just amazing; respectful, well researched and the narration is powerful stuff. Looking forward to this channel blowing up soon you guys really are one of the best channels out there for true crime. Thank you and keep up the good work and may Frances' family and the children that she left behind find some peace eventually, rest in peace Frances this world didn't deserve you.

I have no words. This was just horrible. That a judge would even consider hearing an appeal by those 2 monsters is absolutely despicable.

That was so heartbreaking! Thank you for sharing Frances’s story and May she RIP!

Its hows that shock can manifest in so many ways - that poor Fiance who was obviously numb and not reacting how others wanted could easily have been convicted in the past when forensic science was not as sophisticated. You can't take away from her family, but he was the one under the hammer for such a long time. Heartbreaking all round, just for trying to force people into drug trafficking.

An outcome I did not see coming. Wtf was with Eric’s answers and behaviour though?

This case is always going to be in the back of my mind. Every time I hear a 911 call or an interview and automatically think "This guy is guilty." I guess an innocent man in shock can sure sound guilty as hell.

Your channel just keeps getting better and better! I’m one state away and had never heard about this case. Thank you for covering it with such compassion. ❤

I don't live in the USA,but their is something seriously wrong with your justice system, 3d and second murder,how in hell did they were released after the first murder

@florida23

Жыл бұрын

Its called AFFIRMITAVE ACTION. Allowing one minority group privilages over another.

Why would any legal team want to defend these evil “men” let alone put forward an appeal on their behalf. I know this isn’t anything to do with domestic violence but I can’t help thinking how Women are blamed for giving “men” too many chances but by God look at what the “justice”system does. Poor poor lady and her family.

Sadly, this case is all too typical. Anyone who follows true crime stories knows this is true. Despicable. 🤬

Wow this one gave me chills, absolutely mind boggling and sinister to say the least! Poor Franny, Rest Peacefukly, beautiful 🙏🏼😔

What a great personality she had such a waste of life. She seemed like a fun person feel for her family and friends x

And a month before her wedding, nonetheless, which is what she always wanted; not to mention how horrible her fiance not only felt about losing her, period, but also having been a suspect in the case... a month before they were to be married for, hopefully, eternity. Rest in peace, Franny. Thanks for the upload & enjoy your weekend, ladies!

So in every other case where everyone says they "KNEW" it was the boyfriend because he was cold or not crying enough.. That's NOT evidence.

Thank you all for another video, one that had a very unexpected outcome. Sickening crime, sensitively and intelligently covered, as usual 😊

Self induced? She was stabbed 90 TIMES!

@roju0007

Жыл бұрын

I guess the police didn't tell him how many times she was stabbed. I've seen a body that was stabbed so severely that the intestines plopped out when moved. But laying there it only looked like they were mildly injured.

@olgashmtv1875

Жыл бұрын

But remember they didn't tell public how she was killed including her boyfriend.

I absolutely admire the work you do on your channel, I know it takes a lot of work and a lot of time to put these videos together, great work. Keep them coming, as I love the educational side of your true crime documentaries. To stab someone 90 times is absolutely disgusting, how could anyone do that to someone, especially in a home with children. I dare to think how that made them feel seeing their mother in that state and I dare to think how she felt at that time.....a life lost through that violence has caused so much pain to her and to the people that love her. I don't even know what to call someone who does something like that to someone, animals don't even do that....should never of been let out of prison, smirking away in court is just beyond cold, they should meet the same fate because once again it's a man/men against a woman and they know there was no chance for her to fight back, just discusting and weak. It really shows what type of scum they are, I hope they rot for the rest of their pathetic and disgusting lives.

I discovered your channel yesterday and have already see. 10+ of your videos. I appreciate the way you tell the stories and your soothing voice.

@TrulyCriminal

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! 🖤

So far sense I started watching your channel the stories you cover have not been covered 30 times already. Finally a breath of fresh air.

The narration is incredible in these videos. Thank you.

Hearing victim impact statements are so heartbreaking but I feel like everyone needs to hear their family's pain.... Rest In Peace Frances.

@maryanncasciani3866

10 ай бұрын

The sad thing is, I don’t believe the actual killers feel what the victims of their crimes truly feel, because they don’t feel like normal humans.

Man I felt that statement in my heart. This is the prime example to why police/detectives should always look elsewhere and focus on FORENSICS and DNA. Because this story was crazy. I thought it was the husband too but it turned out to be a whole crazy story. Smh

Terribly terribly sad. What a damn shame there’s people out there that think humans are disposable.

I love it when you drop a new video, very well narrated and presented keep them coming 🙏🏼

You have such a special gift her. Great video . Thank you

Best voice in all criminal channels. Keep going and best of luck.

Truly criminal with another yet fantastic crime documentary well presented as always full of knowledge really really good to listen to these girls they put so much hard work in upmost respect love watching your videos

My mother in law is visiting and im hiding in the toilet, guess i have an extra 20 min😂😂

@TrulyCriminal

Жыл бұрын

🤣🖤

@13ritneyanne

Жыл бұрын

@@TrulyCriminal I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does that lmao

I love your videos. Thanks. X

I love your channel. I just recently subscribed but I’ve already watched pretty much of all of your videos (I had a binge watching marathon one day). I appreciate your attention to detail but without it being boring or dragged out. Thanks for being so respectful of the victims as well. You’re a gem 💎

What a terrible case! All my condolences to Franny's family and friends, specially to her daughters. It's so good that police did a very good job getting those monsters, but it's terrifying that there are actual humans able to commit these horrible acts of extreme violence just like that, not caring about anything, for such petty reasons, criminals who shouldn't be on the streets given their records... I hope things have changed over there regarding parole. Wishing the best for Franny's family.

What I don't understand, is how could a defense attorney, know how evil their clients are. And still want to represent this absolute EVIL! God bless the Craig family and the babies that had to find their mommy like that😭

Just Got Back Home From Shopping, and the Notification popped up that You uploaded a New video,You guys Have a Safe and Blessed weekend.❤️🤗🌺🦋😇

I just want to say how excited I was to see not 1, but 2 new videos after being away from social media for awhile. It's the little things.

I thought I’ve heard every demented case out there, but you blow my mind away with the insane cases you find.