I don't know why but I just love the way that every pin is labeled at the back of the board. Very nice touch in case of troubleshooting. Beautiful board

With an intro like that i was half expecting a power tool to open the box lol

@DoctorTelefono

3 жыл бұрын

Time!

@creating...6001

2 жыл бұрын

Old tony vibes

@ottersdangerden

2 жыл бұрын

@@creating...6001 tot does it too? I know that AvE has been doing that lately

Wow, Voron is so popular that manufacturer are designing stuff for us.

@fahdanwar

3 жыл бұрын

It's good thing but at the same time open source project if you lot more manufacturers involved. They demand more innovation to sell more product it become sort of pressure . You have to do new thing before maturing old. If you stop doing that and after few release you see that your products depends on manufacturers who are not willing to produce due to profit/ business things. It's slippery slope.

@user-yk1cw8im4h

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t like how others are making money off this non-profit project like crazy.

@fahdanwar

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h Actually those who make profit also take risk and do chore of support. Voron tried this before open source. I think it's open source and it doesn't mean non profitable . I don't like the aspects like dedicated hardware that specific made for one specific product

@britewires4305

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h it's not like you don't have any other choice.

@wsippel

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h It certainly didn't hurt Linux. Android is big business. IBM bought RedHat for billions. There's nothing wrong with that. I contributed to several open source projects myself, and I'm totally fine with people and companies using my code to make money, as long as they comply with the license.

I was going to wait for reviews but all the clever and nice to have features along with the very reasonable price got me so I already ordered mine.

I am glad I ordered one. There are so many nice features packed in there.

I've been waiting for this since I saw someone post about it a few months ago, this looks great. Had no idea about extra stuff like the pt100 support or the 5v output for the pi. That's fantastic!

Alternate title: Mr Nero performs ESD testing on Fysetc Spider.

@TalkingGIJoe

2 жыл бұрын

🤪😂🤣

That's seems an amazing board, super clean design for cable management a good features as well for the Pi! I'm looking forward to see the test on it.

Nice nero, I was following this board. Thanks for the review.

this sounds like a amazing board

Looking forward to the arrival of this board. Hopefully, a pre-order success story.

Nice thanks for giving us a great run down on this board.

Can't wait for the review! 👍

Looking forward to hearing about your experience with the board 😊

I didn't know these were already available. My order has been placed!

I like that smash button! Thanks for the nice overview. will get my spider probably in the next days/weeks before even knowing that it has such nice features!

Wow, this is a fantastic board!

Very nice, thanks for the first look. Mine is still out there with China Post... time to check tracking again lol

I was sceptical to order a brand new board in pre-sale... I'll be waiting for your review. Hope I can start soon ordering my v2.4 parts soon.

Holy cow, this is some board! All hail Fysetc!

That's a sweet looking board. I might have to get one and sell all my other boards before I get stuck with them.

Got mine incoming, should be here any day now.

This thing looks nuts!!

Pre-ordered the board from FYSETC a month ago when nobody mentioned it anywhere yet, I am looking forward to receiving it! Looks like I made the right choice! This may be _the_ new budget control board for 3D printers, there is nothing even close to this out there!

I'm looking for a board for a new 7 motor machine, thanks for posting and bringing it to my attention.

I like the AvE reference

Ordered mine a few weeks back. Looks great! Hoping someone posts an stl for mounting it to the din rail!

Specs wise, this thing is freaking sweet

@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel

3 жыл бұрын

check out BigTreeTechs new board (just released as i post it) BTT Octopus. its even MORE insane. so insane i pre-ordered 2 of them lol! yea not a shill i got boards of every brand but some one just makes a better one... I hate 3d printing... its a damn money pit. got plenty of SKR's DUET's MKS's most of them never used but just for having it and looking cool.

The switchting fans between 24v 12v and 5v is game changing. I have been asking myself why this hasn't been yet for 2 years almost. the generic buck converters are a pain to properly cable manage in a build. Purely for this feature alone i bought this board already. Not to mention the pi power feature. Sick board

I really like the possibility of that board

Thanks for the peek!

Mine hit the US yesterday and hopefully will be here in a day or two. Nero, are you going to do a full install and firmware video when you get to it?

Seriously thinking about building a Voron 2*, have almost everything i need (more or less) in my parts/spare bins. Until now the only thing that has put me off is all the extra psu's ect. So this might be a game changer. Probably hang fire until see your review on this board. Good stuff, thumbs up.

I just bought it! Please do an installation video!

that looks really good

This is one very nice board and for the price i can't complain.

I bought 1 from the Fysetc website. Looks like a great board for Vorons

That's an amazing board

Oh I like the USB breakout. The USB A cables in my 2.4 take up so much space.

So this board with TMC2209, which currently is even 39% off on aliexpress for less than 50€ shipped saves me one SKR, a 5V PSU for the Pi, overall less cabling, some other small parts and even some lighting PSU all in one package? What is this magic?

You can actually set the Voltage for the fans ..... NICE ! NICE ! Such a small thing, but i love it ! nice board i would say! cool stuff :D

Damn those voltage selection jumpers are great

And every time their name simply sounds like a typo for fysTec.. but have been eyeing the board, so thanks for the video!

Honestly pretty excited for all the selectable voltage features. No more dumb buck converters or needing multiple PSU's just to connect a higher pressure fan that only sells at 12V for some reason...

Waiting patiently, well not so patiently for mine to arrive

@SittingDuc

3 жыл бұрын

I call it practising patience". Oh, and clicking refresh on the parcel tracking website..

I was going to go Duet 3 as I just didn't like the idea of two control boards (Yeah, I know the Duet needs another board too, but it's designed that way), but this is a nice solution, and WAY cheaper (even though I like the Duet on one of my other printers). So, first part of my Voron build ordered.....

What u think about fly super 8 board ? I love the way that u explain u make it easy to understand hopefully u will make us more boards review 😇💯

nice board

hello, what about using a 4-wires pt100? Do I need an additional board?

I am quite new to 3D printing with an Ender 5 Pro. I plan to upgrade the Ender and then move the best bit onto a home built system. Will the Ender 5 display work with this board? I am trying to limit my spend each month so it would be great to replace the main board and keep the original display until I am ready to buy a fancy touch screen. Thank you for giving such a detailed look at the board, it has the upgrade potential I am looking for.

I've got the old Fysetc F6 with TMC2130 running right now, don't think I'll be running that for much longer

Is there a video explaining on how to power you pi off of this board?

you had me at not having to buy a 5v psu fo the Pi lol and i think its really affordable compared to getting 2 SKR 1.4 boards and 7 2209 drivers seperatly :D Love it!

@SittingDuc

3 жыл бұрын

and only needing one spider for the V2.4 means the PI-by-uart not by-usb becomes useful..

Btt octopus looks great too

Here's a problem: STM32F446 only has 6 UART interfaces: 4 of them USART, which is compatible with UART, and 2 UART. Which 2 drivers are the unfortunates running over SPI? Or are they all running on SPI?

So, for a Voron 2.4 I can use ONE Spider board intstead of 2 SKR 1.4? It can drive 7 stepper motors at one? Thanks for the detailled video!

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Correct

The pt thermistor stuff is nice. Wish there was an enclosure thermistor pin too. But I won't need 4 hotends anyway.

In your octupus board review... you made a point about the Capacitors of the stepper controllers and the max voltage rating. None mentioned here, how do they compare ? Any considerable advantage over one or the other ?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

same 35v caps, but no seperate moto VIN, so 24v max

Nero, i would love for you to do a video on Can Bus printers. They seem to be becoming more popular, with the BTT Hermit Crab, as well as the BIQU B1.

Maybe I'll buy it for my new corexy printer with klipper. It's as cheap as the skr v1.4 with 5x tmc2209 (50 euro's), and with this board i get 8 tmc2209's for the same price. Also power for the pi is pretty handy.

Would you mind filling whole screen with that cutting board thing? That table part of table on top left is a bit distracting

still waiting on mine to clear customs... looks like i need to build another voron.. haha

On the skr pro you can power a pi too

Does this have any benefits over the BTT Octopus?

On July 16 I finally got the board I ordered on may 10 :))

"Make sure you like that smash button" is already an inside joke, I've heard it too many times! ;)

@jangrewe

3 жыл бұрын

well then it's hardly an inside joke anymore, is it? :-D

@ErosNicolau

3 жыл бұрын

@@jangrewe true 😂

@kei2142

3 жыл бұрын

The fact he delivered that line so smoothly....

Real nice, i'm glad we managed to make this happen :D But since the bat85 is "built in", does that prevent one from using the Vinda/SuperPinda probe? Since it apparently can't be run with a bat85 on the line

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Ive never actually used those other probes, but there is 6 availble endstops hookups and only the 1 is "modified" to accept the inductive probe. So I believe would just need to hook it up like you normally would, but to a different free endstop and just adjust the pins in firmware

Hi Nero, I know this is old but do you know what the total height of the board is? I can’t seem to find it, many thanks! 🙂

Did your box come with a wiring diagram? The one on Fysetc's web site is all blurred out.

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

It did not. The one on the ali store page works though

What about Klipper? It is necessary to connect an Raspi to it in order to run it?

ok isn't all the calculations from Gcode done on the raspberry pi so why does it matter if its a 32 bit board or not? also since this is a single board solution could you run marlin on it for those who are more familiar with marlin then klipper and don't want to swap over?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

There is still step limits at play even with klipper, on a cartesian style machine its not that big an issue, but on a corexy with say 4z motors all moving at once, a bit of extra overhead when running at high speeds is needed. And yes, this board supports marlin

Found this on reedit, after looking to get rid of SKR boards (got 2 that got toasted "because of my fault" - the BIQ Facebook group friends). I felt in love with this board at minute 7 of this video. At minute 09:00 Power select for fans

@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel

3 жыл бұрын

you do realise these boards are made by BTT. it's 1 big commie party over there. Personally, i never had issues with the BTT boards and ye i also heard admins are deleting posts in the FB group but im in it cuz... fck facebook. I also got a full refund on the SKR2 board 3 days after i received the board. so basically a free board if you fix it yourself. but the feature they added is useless anyways. I also ordered the Octopus of BTT (apparently its on pre-order now) , its a board like this Spider but way better. 8 PWM controlled fan ports (with jumpters 5 to 24v). 4 hot-end heater outputs expansion board port (like the latest duet), motor power in so you can run the motors at 35v if you want. power in (boarD) power in (bed) en power out (bed). For basically same price as the Spider, Yes I also own the S6's and these are great too. they both sell good stuff but sometimes you just need moaaaarrrrr features!

It sounds like a good option board. Personally I prefer integrated drivers as we don't really swap these out any more. Integration also performs better than the sticks. Wish there was an option with integrated TMC2209

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Ya i know, personally i am a fan of on board drivers simply for thermal performance, but it is what it is Least its a bit more future proof.

I feel it's very nice and respectable from Fysetc to put Voron on the box. Courtesy that is not much seen nowadays.

@fail_fast

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's a respect thing so much as a free marketing gimmick

as someone that just got my first printer a few weeks ago (ender 3 max) and just setup klipper last week, what does this board offer me? What exactly is different then the stock setup other then more inputs and outputs?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

In terms of performance in print quality (with klipper) vs the stock board, barely any Really any 32 bit with klipper and 2209`s will have the same print quality But when it comes to available features and options, this board definitely has it beat. Its more of a use case choice really, for building a voron v2.4, its almost a no brainer to go with this setup, for a off the self ender3, harder to justify

@TexasAce

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckCreator So the ender 3 max comes with 2209's from the factory? I want to add a heater enclosure and lighting/power supply control to the pi, would this help with that? I do not like PLA and plan to print mostly things like ABS, PETG and other better options. Being very new to 3D printing but also a heavy DIY'er / modder I want to focus my time learning and working with options I won't regret later. I see the sale on these ends tomorrow so trying to decide if I want to grab one now or if I will be happy with the stock setup.

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexasAce Not sure what the max comes with, my e3v2 came with 2208s This board may be a bit overkill for your needs, but if it has the right amount of hookups for the things you want, at a good price, you may want to go with it.

@TexasAce

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckCreator I like overkill lol, as long as it is something I won't regret later or is something I can grow into.

super sharp!! R U gona make a build?? good luck!!888

Hi!!! Can someone tell me if I have to install the firmware (klipper) on the raspberrypi and the spider before connecting all the wires into? Thanks

@CanuckCreator

2 жыл бұрын

You can do it before or after wiring it up

@ers4487

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your answer!! I sent you an email because I can’t start my printer I have a MINTEMP error, I have checked everything, wiring etc!! Finally today I put my finger under the board where the thermistors are and The printer started!!! So I believe my board is wrong!

now I want one. Well, at least one.

Are the firmware Klipper installed by default ?

damn its here, time to build voron

Nice.

I am unboxing my v2.2 with S2209s for my Tronxy X5SA-PRO. I'm using a Raspberry pi 3 b+ attached to a 7" touch screen. My goal is to have the pi do all of the figuring, and allow the Spyder to do its job of controlling the hardware. She is a gorgeous board! I put the magnifying glasses on and checked her out. I have a ton to learn and I would appreciate any input. Thank you.

Haha "like that smash button", anyway i cant wait to see how it performs. I plan on getting one for my 2.4 build as well and it really looks promising

Is this a cheaper alternative to duet3 boards?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Spec firmware for a voron is klipper. Which runs on most controllers. The spider is a newer board by fysetc and is designed with the v2 in mind. But you can use really any board or combination of boards with the required amount of drivers. (Current spec is dual skrs)

will this work with oDrive

Wiki also says they have a RRF variant coming.

@aronjanssen5702

3 жыл бұрын

just go klipper, i even flashed my duet with klipper

@Difool80

3 жыл бұрын

Yes but ... RRF will not be supported on this board. STM32F446 MCU has not enough Flash for that (There is only 512kb flash and them STM32 current builds of RRF are larger than that). They plan to release another board using STM32F407VG especially for RRF but it seems weird because this MCU will NOT be supported either because there is no SPI2 bus needed for the Wifi/SBC. I tried to question them about that from aliexpress, I just got as answer "I don't know much about it. I am not an engineer". I suggested to forward my message to them or tell me how to contact them but just got a "ok thank you" ... :-) Maybe they plan to build they own version of RRF by cutting down some functionnalities but it would be odd and not really nice IMO. They could use an STM32F407ZG (like the one used byt Fly F407ZG board) but the reason they went to STM32F407VG is because it's pin compatible to the STM32F446VE so they don't have to make 2 differents board that way ...

if it had a network interface like wifi, could we do away with the Rasp-pi altogether?

@Timmit99

3 жыл бұрын

While possible, it wouldn't make much sense. The pi handles all the intense computations and planning and moving that BACK onto the microcontroller would defeat the purpose of Klipper.

@Joe_Yacketori

3 жыл бұрын

This is a Klipper-only neighborhood! On-board wifi would be sacrilege. (Full disclosure: I still run Marlin because I'm a chump)

Where to get the wiring loom?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

This one was from fermio labs

can you run more then one hot bed with it

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

It supports 3 hotends+1 bed

Imagine a Voron 2.4 tool changer. You'd need so many freaking steppers xD

Who else upvotes the vid as soon as that catchy theme music starts ;)

With BTT announcing a competitor yesterday, this will INDEED be interesting. As I don't need one ATM, haven't ordered either, will wait for the independent reviews, and, a little field time, to determine which, if either, is the winner...................

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Considering the botched launch of the skr2. There already down a few points.

@lotechgreg

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckCreator Agree COMPLETELY...

There is RRF support now

Can I use this board in a printer that is not a voron?

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Like most 3d printer controller boards it can be configured as you please

@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can use it everywhere, its just a generic control board. but this one is little bit moar focused on the voron. you can also smack a duet in a voron or a SKR GTR or SKR Pro in it or in other stuff.

So… it is a slightly cut down version of the btt octopus 446 variant… nice looking board though.

So, What's the difference between Fysetc Spide and BIQU Octopus

@CanuckCreator

3 жыл бұрын

Well, so far BTT has been kinda dropping the ball in regards to QC and boards having issues, look at the SKR2 issues popping up now for example. Really though biggest difference between the 2 boards (on paper) is the features and options they each support

@xiaoqianzi15

3 жыл бұрын

@@CanuckCreator I see, they send notices everywhere about the issues of SKR2. Facebook, Discord, Email, almost everywhere

This sounds fantastic. I would gladly pay 100$ or a little over.

@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel

3 жыл бұрын

good think its just 35 dollars :D so you can buy 3 of them or a little more haha!

followed!!

Duet3 is also capable to power the Raspi, the spider is not the only one 😅 But a nice board altought! 💪

@hondaguy9153

3 жыл бұрын

The duet can't control 8 steppers without an expansion board.

@misterm1502

3 жыл бұрын

@@hondaguy9153 that's true. Don't think that's nessesary. I really like duets concept of the toolboard. If you need more stepper for more tools you connect each tool with the toolboard and deliver Vcc GND and the can bus and your all set. But it's definitely another price dimension 😅

@hondaguy9153

3 жыл бұрын

@@misterm1502 The Voron v2.4 uses 7 steppers.

@misterm1502

3 жыл бұрын

@@hondaguy9153 gotcha, didn't know until now.😅 Thought they also do a 3 Point Z Bed mounting which results on less steppers.

@hondaguy9153

3 жыл бұрын

@@misterm1502 the bed is 4 point and doesn't move, the Gantry is on 4 motors plus your AB and extruder.

Spyder vs Octopus?