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The All New Minisforum EM780 Is The Smallest Ryzen 7840U Micro Gaming PC Ever! The EM780 is super tiny but packs a punch when it come to gaming. Unveiling the Minisforum EM780 - the smallest and most powerful Ryzen 7840U micro gaming PC to date! This compact powerhouse redefines gaming efficiency, featuring the advanced Ryzen 7 7840U processor and the cutting-edge Radeon RDNA3-based 780M iGPU. Experience unparalleled performance with 32GB of 6400 LPDDR5 RAM and versatile connectivity through 2 USB 4 Ports.
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00:00 Introduction
00:18 Unboxing
00:49 Video sponsor ad spot
01:57 Overview
03:21 Specs
04:20 Single Cable Operation Mode
05:28 Overall performance and TDP
07:42 web browsing and 4k Video playback
08:50 Benchmarks
09:20 AAA Gaming Test
11:33 Power Consumption
12:09 First Impressions
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Anyone want to see Steam OS running on Micro PC? I think we could see some amazing performance out of the mini pc
@JohnHydeisawesome
6 ай бұрын
I do!
@shophet125
6 ай бұрын
yes please
@ghostsauce3109
6 ай бұрын
Try Nobara they have a new deck variant" with gaming mode for ryzen handhelds
@youngboypervisage2087
6 ай бұрын
Yesssssir 🔥🔥🔥
@Richiestone18
6 ай бұрын
Emudeck please
Theyre getting smaller and more powerful. Soon well we be able to access and play full pc games right from our pockets.
@zacharyberridge7239
6 ай бұрын
We... Already can. There are several handheld pc's currently. They are necessarily larger, due to needing screens and an interface. But they certainly exist.
@GayvontaDavis
6 ай бұрын
Ayaneo Air1s is the most pocketable imo
@LuminousSpace
6 ай бұрын
mini fit ur pocket, i really love it, the best handheld i have ever own
@KashKatana
6 ай бұрын
We already can. Heck people are already playing Gta 5 and other pc games on their android phone now with the Mobox emulator.
@dctaken
6 ай бұрын
Imagine a Pip-boy-like computer you could use that's very capable.
I have just bought one of these I love it. Got myself a portable monitor too as I go away work quite a bit. Thanks for the videos pal!
This early look is very promising considering the demonstrated gaming performance. Seems inline with other Pheniox (7840u) handhelds. Hopefully they finally fixed the horribly broken power limits that made their previous Minisforum EM680 perform about %35 below other 6800u mini pc in gaming.
@AresHeartbreaKid
6 ай бұрын
i Got my Em680 to 47W stable but you have to have the know how in tweaking the bios PWR settings. It also helps to have an App called "Universal x86 Tuning Utility" it allows you to utilize More Power allocation etc. hope that helps
@TheGrizz485
6 ай бұрын
@@AresHeartbreaKid seems that the only way to get proper gaming performance on your mini pc is to use a special bios and a 100w power adapter.
@TBMartin
6 ай бұрын
The EM680 is designed to only run at 15w, this is what MinisForum told me even though it's advertised as a 30w PC. The "special bios" that is available was released to shit up people complaining that their EM680 won't go past 15w. I have a feeling that the EM780 is also a 15w PC. Notice in the Cyberpunk demo, CPU Package Power is 35w and so is the total TDP, he doesn't show the GPU side and is not running this PC with "out of the box" settings. He lied about the EM680 so he's probably lying about this EM780 too
@jonathanhaney9235
6 ай бұрын
At least his reviewer unit appears legit. The benchmark scores are all within error margin of other 7840U devices hes reviewed (Aokzoe A2 for example) but I guess if this becomes another bait and switch you can always return it?
@lazypops3117
5 ай бұрын
@@AresHeartbreaKidsome more details would be helpful, thanks. 2.17 BIOS? 100W PD supply? 45w or 54w in BIOS settings? what config in tuning utility?
i was waiting for this, Thank you
love that ETAPRIME always keep us up to date with mini gaming system !! Mini gaming system ftw !!
Dude your videos are stellar. I'm so grateful for your reviews! Thank you, you gained a subscription. :)
I love tiny PCs. CPU's with internal GPU's are incredible.
You should put some MW2 benchmark video in these mini PCs for us disturbed people that play CoD during lunch break in the office without our desktop 😂😍🙏🏻
I never thought I'd ever see a PC that'd I'd label as "adorable" until now. :D
Thank you for your review man!
I bought a ROG ally because of you, I love your content ETA! Thanks for making me fall in love with portable handheld PCs again!
I want to see the comparison between all Ryzen 7840 laptop, handheld, and mini pc. Which form factor actually bring the best performance, and pros/cons on every form factor
@user-gk9lg5sp4y
6 ай бұрын
Yes, please
@ominoussage
6 ай бұрын
A laptop would be better among all of those. Comes with the necessary components to use a computer in one device: monitor, touchpad and keyboard, hence it's more bang for the buck. The problem with a handheld is that the screen is too small. At the end of the day, it still depends on the use case but a laptop is an all-in-one device and can do more than what a mini pc and a handheld can do.
@AVWUVU
6 ай бұрын
I really hope the steam deck 2 offers an XL option with a size similar to the legion go. I need a bigger screen. @ominoussage
@briankingham175
6 ай бұрын
Yes, please, this would be good information, especially for those who already have a monitor.
@netnomad47
5 ай бұрын
@@ominoussagei have a gaming laptop and never use it in laptop mode and it's always plugged in to the power so I paid $2000 for nothing i could've bought a mini pc instead for less, and just buy an external gpu for better performance
Wow, this looks an awesome little machine. Performance is great for something so tiny. I'm out of the loop on pricing so was expecting it to be a lot but I checked and they're going for €720 with the 1TB SSD. That's pretty cheap considering everything you're getting and the form factor.
Love to see an emulation video with this micro pc update would be neat. This got my interest and I’m not a pc guy.
Can't wait to see something like RX 6600 level of performance in a system this small.
@kingtuckgesus8879
6 ай бұрын
Morefine has one with the 6600
That + Fluid Motion frame : 😮
Neat little PC, I've got that same CPU in my laptop and I'm very happy with it.
I can’t wait to see of these with strix point
hey man, love your videos! Pulling only 6 Watts in idle is plainly amazing for an x86 processor! Would love to see some testing with a Linux distro such as Pop_OS! Could you include a section regarding fan noise as well?
It’s a very nice review but i think if u somehow can add esport games in the testing on every product that would be great.. overall love ur work
would really love seeing you plug this to an eGPU!!
Great review
I love all this small stuff! Also I would like to see a possible video on the RTX 4000 ADA Edition SFF! I’ve only seen one video one it and it needs more attention!!!
They finally made it!
I'm very excited to see Ryzen 8000U this year on mini pcs and handhelds
this is what I could use for higher end DIY arcade machines
@frediusmaximus1
4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! It would be perfect for an arcade cabinet with limited space.
How is that 1.4L? I'm pretty sure you meant 0.4L
@vierkilau
6 ай бұрын
1/4L
@piotrbiedowicz1602
6 ай бұрын
@@vierkilau 1/4L = 0.25 L
Very nice and powerful tiny pc! 😮 It will be nice to see how this igpu and handhelds gpus behave in games by enabling afmf
I would really love this
Nice review, like always. It would be nice if you try to load Steam OS and Linux Arch. Those are good SO alternatives to check in this mini PC.
Great video! I do love your testing with ChimeraOS but want to see you test emulation gaming with Batocera Linux!!!
Finally! I don't regret buying the EM680 but... I wish there had been ANY COMMUNICATION AT ALL about when this would come out because I definitely would have just waited... 😒
Will get something like this one day Even my itx build is a behemoth these days
Would you be able to do an EM680 vs EM780 comparison?
Would love to see this running Pinup Popper with VPX or Future Pinball. This form factor and cooling with a micro sd card slot could be a game changer for VPin builds or Legends Pinball OTG applications.
The cost of 4k Video/1080p Medium gaming is going down and down in both money and wattage. I wholeheartedly approve.
only one word : incredible
would love to see this machine paired up with oculink egpu setup!!!
Love your videos. Would it be any good for video and picture editing on
Same 65w PSU as the troubled throttling cpu and gpu while under load em680 which Minisforum put a bios change into newly delivered machines that stated if users wish to fully utilize the potential of the 6800u they could not use the provided 65w PSU but had to buy a 100W one themselves. Nice addition of the Rj45 breakout box though.
@lazypops3117
4 ай бұрын
that restriction was lifted though, I (and many others on reddit) can confirm the new bios now works with the 65W supply, with moderate performance increases.
@Ali-qd6jv
4 ай бұрын
@@lazypops3117does this apply to em780? or is this em680 specific?
Basically the ROG Ally in a different form factor with more RAM, even though the Ally can boost higher.
Damn I need one
I have a newbie question...when testing different pc hardware do most people install every game and benchmark utility individually for every computer? Is there a disk image created and used or an external drive? Looking to test a bunch of old desktops and was wondering how the pro's did it! Thanks!
Honestly wish they'd make it a bit taller with a larger heatsink for an even sided cube.
crazy little machine
can you allocate more than 8gb to the gpu? if so, does it make a difference?
I would love to see Nobara OS running on this little dude.
Would love to See some blender usage on These 7840u's. With and without egpu
I'd like to see these tiny pcs with an eGPU
Is it possible to connect 4 Monitor Setup on this PC? Im searching a fast Mini PC to replace my big System, but for that i need one wich can handle 4 Displays.
Wish they make this with usbc for power and diplay. Would be fantastic with single cable.
@BenTechTalk
6 ай бұрын
It has PD with usb-c as far as I can tell
@jimkincaidz
6 ай бұрын
Id does and is shown in the video
@_bob_8170
6 ай бұрын
4:17 it does confirmed
This is very impressive
Just imagine one of these things powered by Zen 5 in a year from now. That would put a lot bigger thicker machines that are currently on the market to shame. Not that this one doesn't.
Would love to see a video with external GPU via the usb4 ports
APUs are getting so much capable these days. I wonder when we are going to see affordable, efficient, Lightweight laptops that can do almost everything with these APUs
9:22 while the settings are 1080p med, it's pretty obvious there's some resolution scaling going on. It looks more like 640p or at the very least 720p. The pixels are giant.
@PantheraTK
6 ай бұрын
is he deceiving us?
Would love to see if the USB4 ports properly support a eGPU, could be a good use case for this.
I have the 680 running Manjaro Linux. Thinking of getting the 780.
Yes, to seeing Steam and some CS, HL, etc
impressive, really. Please can you do some reotrgaming testing with it?Especially with higher level emulators. Thank you 🙂
A lot inside a small package and that energy consumption is very good indeed.
can you address on your next vlog the power supply failure issue of previous minisforum?
need someone to DIY this into handheld
I would love to see Chimaera OS running on this 😊
Pity you don't bench 3Dmark on all of the miniPCs, it is a nice comparison that drops (I hope at least) leaves gimmicks at the door (XeSS, DLSS, FSR). Anyway, just compared 3Dmark scores for various miniPCs you tested, this little one thanks to the 6400 LPDDR5 memory comes very close to the big boys (7840HS and 7940HS) while using only 50% or less of their power consumption. I'd love to compare this to the new intel 155H, but you left out 3Dmark on that one ...
This looks exactly what I'm looking for. I want to game portabley on some xreal ar glasses, especially for Balder's Gate 3. Was looking at an rog allay, but I assume this would give me better performance? Being able to charge off a power bank by usbc will be a must. Does it have variable refresh rate? Anyone know a better option than this for my plans?
Do you have some numbers for maximum soundlevels (dB) it produces under full load?
Que bonito. Es lo mejor de lo Mejor!! PEQUEÑO pero Matón
Almost perfect mini pc. I can only say that it would be better with an oculink port.
@muSPKWoW
6 ай бұрын
Problem is the price...its the price of a Z1 extreme ROG Ally which is basically the same as this when plugged in
Steam os would be great all you would need is a bluetooth controller to operate it. Also with emulation station installed
Supports Steam Games and external HD game system?
What is the controller in the thumbnail (the white one with blue LED sticks)?
Quick question if you could only choose one based on weight and performance which one would you choose mini PC wise
I wanna see this thing running Chimera OS or HoloISO so bad, This might be a BEASTLY little Steam OS home console
You can slap one of these behind a monitor, instant All-in-One PC
Minisforum are geniuses, being able to fit 1.4 litres into a 1/4 litre shell.
Awesome little unit, but damn do they sell out fast. They need to crank em out a little faster.
When you get your OneXGPU are you planning on watercooling it?
Prime, how did you up the vram ? I cant find the setting in the bios
can you try it with kubuntu - that's my favorite distro. is the fan loud?
My dream PC ♥
I never had a PC,i want a small one but powerfull
How much memory can be allocated by video core in the BIOS?
How about noise levels? In order to consider it for everyday work, it would need to be really quiet with light to average load (browser with 6-8 tabs, remote desktop to work machine, webex or zoom running, email client and some office documents opened).
if we limit the tdp to 15w does it perform like a rog ally at 15w ?
I can't wait to what emulation runs on it.
How is this beating 7840hs? You did a video on it and MM could only run at 720? Thanks
Are these benchmarks with or without fluid motion frames eneabled
it reminds me of that ouya console
how about emulation with arch linux distro? more interested in the high end systems, PS2, GC, Wii/U and maybe some PS3
I'm a novice. What do you do about a GPU for graphics or gaming?
I would like to see if the NPU in the 7840u is capable of AI work loads. Can you test it with Linux mint 21.3 and run stable diffusion and LM studio with a 13B LLM like Mixtral 8x7B or Llama 2 13B. 32GB should be about enough to run these models. If not a 7B model would be ok.
Does anyone know how much this thing weighs and what the power draw when doing basic web-browsing is?
This is great.
I love the form factor, the idea of recreating the GameCube days when my buddy would bring his console over is dreamy. But the price is stupid, you can have your pick of portable handhelds or build a much better desktop for the MSRP. When the em680s were on clearance at the end of last year for $380 it was tempting but I still couldn't rationalize the purchase.
The Pixio monitor listed in the description, would it power the minisforum? If not, what monitor is recommended?
The power of the sun!
Also Morefine has the S500+ with the exact same chip but only 16 GB of RAM for only $389.
Has anyone tried VR on these? Any insight into VR on these would be much appreciated. I got a headset I’m just be tracking down a mini size setup.