Edit...didn’t notice I placed my comment under someone’s else comment thread... Vertical benefits... 1) as you said single operator designed and less trash 2) options to split wood any dimension and not have to change wedge. 3) once wood is on table rarely will you ever be picking it off the ground...on other side of machine... 4) Elevator... nuf said Vertical drawbacks... 1) Limited speed. As you said the horz. With right setup can be a production king 2) larger footprint 3) maybe a touch less safe??...Debatable. I gotta trash them a little bit cause my uncle built a clone vertical and we trash talk each other. His does work good...[but not as good as mine]😆😆

I appreciate that you consider time, accounting, and your situational awareness to evaluating what works for you. Smart. Keep it up.

Fantastic comparison video man. We all appreciate the time & thoroughness! Keep up the good work!

Great video! I'm glad to see the comparison. The Axis looks like its perfect for your application. You have tremendous control and less waste. You achieved great consistency and results for bundle wood with both splitters.

I like the Eastonmqde Axis better because you get a cleaner cut than the 1220. I'm a baker, so to me presentation is everything. Even though I live in sunny CA, I still enjoy watching your channel. 😊

Nice, Adam! I was thinking it was going to be the Axis. Gotta love those Eastonmade splitters.

Love the Axis! Seems like more control over the size of the splits. Great job

Great content! Love this video. We have a wood processor on the way. Excited to do some of this again. Tony

Really..... just simple and elegant! Nice job!

What an awesome comparison! Great job!

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, hopefully it helps you pick which one you want haha

@ArmsFamilyHomestead

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres you’ve for sure narrowed it down!

Fun to watch and informative as always

I enjoyed the video. Love to see some more. I’m liking that axis.

Great comparison adam!!!

Great video Adam. I’m sure we will be seeing the Axis a few more times over the next few months and I’ll be looking forward to it. Stay safe.

Great video Adam. Well done. I think im going to copy it.

GREAT VIDEO ADAM !! Im looking forward to watching the upcoming videos on your new Axis ,Great Comparison !. I have the 12-22 and really like it ,would be great to have a small conveyor for it similar to the Axis , it splits wood so fast you need one to get it out of the way !! , Knowing Andrew it wont be long before there will be one for it as an add on. On a side note you just got the Axis and it looked as though you were right at home with it .That says alot about the design . It seems to be super precise and makes very uniform wood . The Eastonmade Axis seems to take the fatigue out of doing your wood . I like the fact of not bending over I could see owning both ! Take care

both amazing machines ! i just love how precise you can be with the axis, feels like its doing fine carpentry work lol

Nice set up and I love the bins.. I'm using a box wedge design for my pine bundles. It produces a great product though its very messy, lots of cleanup... For hardwood I switch to a 12× wedge which is super fast. I bought the bundler from Johns Welding on Ebay, its great.

For the Eastonmade Axis, I've seen others stack several rounds on the lift, bringing it to level, and sliding them under the splitter which could save a minute or two, but two great examples of great machines doing a fantastic job as a money making machine.

Excellent...thanks for this!! That's what I was thinking;If I'm by myself all day, the Axis looks like it would be easier on my body. If on the other hand, I wanted full out production with a couple of other guys, their other style splitter at the end of the day, would be faster.

Great video Adam! Hoping to order an Axis very soon.

I like the small splits that you do, and I'm sure your customers do too. The Axis is awesome for making small pieces.

Great comparison

Thats awesome!!!!! That axis is another home run from Andrew!

Looks like no waste on the Axis, (chips, kindling) and much better control of size of each piece, good job.

Axis is a precision machine, perfect for you Adam! Looks like alot of fun running the Axis. Andrew from Eastonmade makes a great product.

Man, every job has to have a supervisor these days.😅

very cool splitter! I just saw the axis run on Buckin' Billy Ray's channel the other day. I thought it looked a little slow, but its gotta be nice to work upright at bench height vs lower with other splitters.

Great Video, How many of the steel racks do you need per cord of wood?

Splitting wood is very tiring, especially if you use an axe (enough for a homeowner I guess and really good workout 🏋🏻‍♂️) so with that being said I completely understand your reasoning for picking the new addition. Good luck and I really appreciate your videos 👍🏻

Let me ask you I have an outdoor boiler and my old splitter is worn out. I havent been splitting wood just cut small for the boiler. But I have a lot of Big 30 plus pine that drops of from tree Smiths. What kind of splitter since you used both do you think is better for this situation? I work by myself with it all.

Hi Adam, good comparison and I think your findings hit the nail on the head. It’s not just about how quick you can process a few rounds, the more important question is can you work comfortably/easily for a few hours or even all day? Does the vertical machine have a height adjustable bed or can the ram start position be lowered? I’m guessing not, it looks like the cylinder has a fixed travel.

That Axis is a nice machine. Nice work height, easy on the back.

For your situation Axis hands down. Not bending near as much, wood size is more consistent, conveyor, and other things I may have missed. Love the wood videos.

So if this was a 2 person job, the one with the conveyor I think would be at an advantage, especially if you lower the conveyor belt and push your wood towards a secondary work area with the wrapper. Then you can do your bundles at the same time. All you need now is someone or something that will automatically receive wood from the conveyor and wrap it automatically, and drop it into your bin, then you're all set to tackle an entire forest! :)

G'day HTA, is the operational speed preset on both models or are they controlled by a manual throttle ?

I like your new video today you did a really good jop today

Nice job...I'll take the Axis.....a real back and arms and shoulder saver!!

That comparison was good for a ten minute sprint, but my guess is it would even take an hour for the operator of the 10-22 to start slowing down while the Axis operator hadn't even broken a sweat.

Nice comparison I do 12000 bundles a year I'm thinking of ordering the axis using a supersplit now with 16 ft conveyer

I have no knowledge of wood splitting I just throughly enjoy watching you videos when posted thank you 🇬🇧

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

If you don’t mind me asking what drew you to the channel if you don’t know much about firewood? I’d like to try to welcome more people like you to the firewood community. Thanks!

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent summary

@kaisergeorge1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres It first came about when I came across your channel and you were explaining how you first started selling wood from your house property then moving to where you are know expanding plus it’s the way you explain in detail to the viewers like myself . I’m born and breed in inner city London I’m retired but when young boy growing up we had a coal fire like everyone but has things improved a push button gas central heating hope I haven’t bored you .

I love that Axis . Much more control in splitting sizes . You don't get a mess at the end of the table . Lots of room to set the bigger pieces off to one side . Andrew hit this one out of the ball park . Buckin Billy Ray has the same splitter and he loves it .Best splitter on the market by far .It's a top quality Canadian made splitter . Can't go wrong with that .

@donchristie420

3 жыл бұрын

I agree- kinda like the Powersplit international’s double split with the conveyor in the middle, also can be self powering so can move into your pile, verticals can cut to customer’s size more readily than box

I think I would like the 12-22 with a conveyor. Maybe someday. My splitter and my maul works for now. The axis is very nice. Looks easy on the back and it can do custom splitting.

What was your reasoning for switching to the axis? I am curious as I am in the market and looking at both of these machines, as well as the ultra

I’m looking forward to seeing you make some kindling with that axis. Something similar to Ohio wood burner.

Just loaded up the video and this is exactly the comparison I need. I want Eastonmade quality but debating between vertical and horizontal and I use totes....bring on the splittin' OK, watched the video and I'm even more "split" on my decision. A factor I would weigh-in is the level of noise reaching the operator. It would appear that the axis motor is more shielded from the operator and make it quieter to run? Also, the 12-22 would be tempting to rev higher (noisier) as you shouldn't have your hands on the round when it is cycling. A simple way to make the 12-22 more efficient would be to have a grade difference between the splitter and the totes. You would need to construct a retaining wall with about a 3-foot drop so that the splits would push off the pan and fall into the tote without the need for a conveyor. That would work if you have a dedicated woodlot and not for temporary setups obviously. Still weighing the two. They don't make it easy.

I don’t understand why you didn’t load up the log lift. On the first machine. I watched Buckin Billy yesterday on the same machine . He didn’t time it, but he worked much faster. They are both great machines. My body can only go so fast, speed really isn’t an issue with me. Work hard and do what you can in a day. Any splitter will decrease your time over a maul unless you’re “Buckin”. Good video Buddy! Thanks for sharing

I really thought the box wedge on theb12-22 would be the best option for bundle wood. It’ll be interesting to see the new equipment put to use!

Nice video Adam!

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Davey!

Good kindling you're making there.

As I watched the whole comparison I was picturing some sort of homemade chute on the 12-22 to save what seemed to be the time consuming part of the comparison. The schute would start just behind the wedge and go to the entrance of the i.b.c so that the operator let's the 2nd log push the 1st log towards the I.B.C, and so on with all the split logs. I see that the oversized split logs need resplitting so side to the chute would be needed to enable the operator to see the oversized split logs, but let the correct sized split logs just push each other along, with the help of the hydrolic ram, across to the i.b.c, saving the operator time. I'd like any feedback you have on this idea Adam. With the Axis I can see 9 or 12 I.B.C's waiting in a 3by3 or 3by4 grid formation for the lone operator to do hours of splitting before fork-lifting the i.b.c's away for storage or sale/delivery.

Good stuff, appreciate all the I fo you out out on this channel.

You can do in 7 hours and 12 minutes with the 12-22 what it takes 8 hours to do with the axis. However, you can probably save some time on the axis by not throwing your wood on the conveyor. Just push it to the left and as you spit more wood the older wood will eventually get pushed into the conveyor. Saving just that little bit of motion and time will add up over time.

How is the weather by you? Is it starting to get cold?

First time I saw your new splitter I was against it but the more I see it I think it is for more people.

yep I'm ocd with my firewood ,one oddball can though the hole stack off

Hey! Adam I guessed correctly Lol ! Axis best of luck with it buddy.

Вообще, загляденье. Класс!

Good comparison but I think if you did it again after using the Axis for a month I think the times would be even closer. Very nice splitter.

Put more than one round on the table at a time, will save time in the long run it looks like. I like the setup.

Nice vid. you’ve put hundred of hrs on the horizontal and getting the hang of the vertical. I’ll bet you’ll find you won’t need to go more than 50% deep on most of the straight grained stuff w the vert (especially that which gets turned 90deg for the cross/final split) and you will bring that time down 10-20%... and have a lot less “byproduct” to shovel up afterwards! 👍

Buckin probably has his hydraulic on speed setting 10 😆

@MrChingadiculous

3 жыл бұрын

It looks about the same speed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/epp_2NWEo9m-qrg.html

@logginlogan6796

3 жыл бұрын

chingadiculous, I will ask on his next live on Sunday.👍🏼

I would prefer the 12-22 with a conveyor. The different 4, 6, Box wedges makes it better for me. But it depends on what you are using it for.

and set your retract height on the Axis to about 1-2" above your logs.

I’d like to know the price difference between the 2 machines. The 12-22 with the box wedge and 4way vs the Access. It will also be interesting to see the cost of maintenance over time. You have more moving parts now then with the 12-22.

Wondering why you split everything so small? I'm on the west coast and I would call that making kindling. We make pie shaped pieces like the horizontal splitter was making on the first run through. I'd say you get a better burn time out of the larger pieces, I mostly burn red fir but get some locust and maple too. Great video

how much is the machine

Hey Adam, approximately how many cords ended up in each basket? About .125?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

I’d say .15. They hold a total of .334 stacked. Since it was a little above half loosely thrown in I’d say .15 is my best guess

@Cotronixco

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres That sounds about right. That's roughly 1 hour per cord, whereas my traditional horizontal splitter takes about 2 hours per cord. So either of these would be a 50% reduction in splitting labor time.

Looks like you like the axis better I do to. It does fit your needs better

Do you miss the 12-22 or are you more productive with the axis?

Yes !! I choose the Axis !!

Putting your fingers on the business end of that log is a really really bad habit to start teaching yourself.

@md6397

3 жыл бұрын

I have noticed that in a couple of his videos. Several years ago there was another company making the identical vertical splitter with the foot pedal....an operator lost his fingers when a large splinter of wood was laying up on the pedal and he did not notice it. He stepped on the stick, the stick pushed down the pedal and because of poor personal attention his hand was on top of a log in the line of fire.

@Tonnsfabrication

3 жыл бұрын

@@md6397 When you've been working firewood for as long as many of us older gen folks have, you're bound to know at least a few people whom are missing body parts because they thought they would never be so dumb as to cut their own hand off. I know several and I'm proud to say I'm not one of them. The 1st) best way to cut your fingers off while splitting is to keep holding the buck ends of the log , the 2nd) is to have that bad habbit and let someone else run the controls.

@mightymofo9306

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, I myself got complacent and all but sliced off my right index finger while using an AnericanCLS 4× wedge, all my fault. Fortunately it was saved, no amputation required but it was touch and go for a time.... Hopfully this guy wakes up to this safety issue but not many guys do until its to late.

Which grapple did you end up keeping? Stephens or Brute Force?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

Both. But I prefer the brute for for moving and cutting logs.

The Axis will really come into it's own when you have big wood like 2-4ft diameter. There is no manhandling of huge pieces of wood from past the wedge back to be split again like on horizontal splitters.

For bundle wood it's definitely one of the best choices Id say! Says a lot that you went with the same brand again! I wonder how a huge gnarly piece can get handled, since you get those, too. Is your supply from the tree service/his old yard still enough to keep up your demand or do you plan to eventually buy a trailer load or something?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

I will start cutting ugly trees in my woods this winter

@petersimons5675

3 жыл бұрын

Hi in this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/epp_2NWEo9m-qrg.html about 10 minutes in the guy does some large stringy rounds with this model of splitter

Hey Adam that Axis is a really nice looking splitter I’ve seen it operate before and looks to be pretty efficient. I’m still not completely sold though I may need to operate one before I get rid of the horizontal. I may have to swing by for a visit so I can get a test run. You know I’m a box wedge fan brother. Take care

Very good comparison! 1 minute difference, but easier on back - a good trade off. Too bad my shed only has less than 7’ high door, axis would be great.

The Axis conveyor is not long enough, cycle time could be faster on ram and log lift seems an odd design.but its a good concept.

I think I would have just tilted the basket under the table of the 12/22 and the wood is fed directly into the basket only the last 20% or so would need to be tossed in. The12/22 would jump ahead if you did that. I would not bother with stacking into a basket just buy a few extra baskets if you need more capacity. All comes down to time and what value you place on yours.

Japa 435 is the best firewood video here on YT its 30 mins of splitting

Haha I would get shot for splitting bits this small. We usually run it so if its about the same size as your hand stretched out, send it, if its any bigger give it a split. This is what we'd have as kindling. This is in Australia. Apparently people like decent sized bits of wood here. Is the demand different there?

Knew it!!

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

You sure did

@mjmtreeservicemaintenance2940

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres Awesome!!! Great deal Adam. I can't wait to see some videos.

Is there a video of the person picking up the 12 22 both machines are great 👍

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t make a video of him coming to get it. The closest thing I have is a picture of him all loaded up. Gentlemen from Illinois bought it. He drove 9 hours 1 way to pick it up

@ejkjr.4694

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for getting back to me.

What species of wood ?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

All sugar maple

Do you think you will ever get in to a processor?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t. For me once you get into a processor I think the love of cutting firewood goes away and it turns into a job. I like running chainsaws and log splitters. I think a processor would take a lot of the fun out of it. If I was selling wood to feed my family it might be different but it’s just a hobby for me

@brandenstorey655

3 жыл бұрын

Hometown Acres I was at the same point you are at. And then I saw opportunity to sell more firewood in my area that’s when I decided to go to a processor just to help speed things up it’s not my primary business so I needed to figure out how to lighten the workload

If you had put the basket right up to the splitter table you could have filled it half full without touching the wood

Can’t you put a small extension on post split shelf and next piece would push split piece into basket..

@christopherhaak9824

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, let the machine push the pieces into the basket. Conveyor only really helps for high loads or large piles.

@Cinder2008

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking similarly. Or put the splitter on a small stand or dig a small pit for the IBCs and put the tote up next to the splitter.

12-22 vs The Axis if your doing production or splitting cords of wood the 12-22 is the way to go, if you doing bundle wood or boiler wood by your self the axis is the way to go it produces better wood the the 12-22,

That Axis seems like a step back for you. I think you're going to miss that 10-22...especially the portability for jobs away from the house.

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

We just got a dump trailer so I’ll be able to go to jobs and bring the wood back here to process

Great to see you enjoy working with the new splitter. 👍 The only thing I'm wondering is if the conveyor really makes a big difference in this specific setup? I mean you still have to push the split logs onto the conveyor, so you also could push / throw it directly into the basket instead when placing it right next to the table and don't have additional parts (the conveyer) that could break some day? Don't get me wrong, I never worked with anything like this so I may not judge, I'm just a fan of keeping it simple, so I'm curious. Greetings from Germany ✌

Adam, I guessed the conveyor, but missed the Axis. I didn't see it on the Easton website. Must be old age. Did you see any kilns of use on the Wood-Mizer website? Patrick PS Do you know what the Firewood Guy charges for the vinyl pallet covers? Can't find them on his website. Man I could sell thousands of those kiln dried pallets in New York City to upper east side and west side co- op buildings. The compact size and kiln dried insect free would garner a premium price.

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t believe he sells the pallets without firewood in them. And it’s not vinyl it’s shrink wrap

@bsckozak543

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres I meant the wood filled pallets. If you look on his Facebook he has photos of his wood filled pallets with stretch film outside the restaurants he supplies covered with Green Vinyl covers with his company name silk screened on them. Those $185.00 wood filled pallets could sell for at least $250.00 on the upper east side,upper west side and in the Hamptons. I have cousins and friends who live there. They have more money than sense, but will pay for quality and convenience.

@WoodchuckCanuck

3 жыл бұрын

@@bsckozak543 Swing by our channel to see a kiln we use for drying pallets of firewood. kzread.infovideos

How many cards an hr ?

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

A little over 1 cord an hour if all your wood is cut and close to the splitter

The speed of the Axis can be slightly increased by adjusting the ram return limiter. I noticed that you had the ram set to return right to the top of it’s stroke each time it cycled. This may be more of a noticeable speed advantage if you were doing several chords in a sitting, as opposed to just a small demonstration such as this. Nice video, thanks.

My thoughts axis is more dangerous watch your hands mmmm stay safe!

@Cotronixco

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the knife ends up 1.5" above the table. Looks quite safe to me.

Power splitter

I was thinking you were going to go balls to the wall and upgrade to a Dyna or a CordKing processor. Maybe next year?

@stevesedgwick5789

3 жыл бұрын

chingadiculous - those large Cord Kings are something special. Fastest cycle time in the business

@MrChingadiculous

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevesedgwick5789 Yeah man. For what Adam is currently doing a Cord King or even a lower tier processor doesn't make sense.

Are you sponersed by eastonmade ? How much are these units ? They never say how much they sell for.

@Deutschehordenelite

3 жыл бұрын

all prices are on their website lol

@jkl-lo5cn

3 жыл бұрын

@@Deutschehordenelite im sure they are. But if this guy is always trying to sell people on them why not say how much he paid for it. Or isnt paying for it they pay him to make videos about.

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

Their prices are on their website and they haven’t paid me anything. They just provided the splitter to me to demo and make videos with

@davidwhalen2924

3 жыл бұрын

@@HometownAcres Does this mean you have never paid anything for your splitters from Eastonmade? Best commercial wood splitters on the market, in my view - barring none.

@henryrodgers3409

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidwhalen2924 That's right . Andrew let him use them to show the people how they work .

i think the axis would’ve won if you used the single wedge on the 12-20

@HometownAcres

3 жыл бұрын

For sure

it is very dangerous for the hands

Ok