Ultimate TEMP CONTROL mod on the Oklahoma Joe's Offset Smoker

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  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
    @SmokeTrailsBBQ Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Established Titles for sponsoring this video! Get 10% off on any purchase with code STBBQ. Go to establishedtitles.com/STBBQ and help support the channel!

  • @YummyPork
    @YummyPork Жыл бұрын

    I love where this is going! Closed loop with a second radiator might be the only "practical" thing to do for a long smoke.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    You got me thinking!

  • @Zokfend
    @Zokfend Жыл бұрын

    Interesting video, thanks. I have an OKJ Highland also. When stack vent is wide opened and fire box side door is wide opened, I can generally hang in at the 250-300 swing range (aiming for 270-280) with splits about 8" long. A few weeks ago I did a brisket in the 200-250 swing range (aiming for 225-230) by using same size splits and fire box side door wide open but stack vent at 3/4 open. Still thin blue smoke. That method works for me; not sure it's feasible for you anymore because you cut your stack hole on the side of your cooking chamber completely wide open. But again, I appreciate your video!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good method! Yea I still have a damper on my stack

  • @JR-fw4jv
    @JR-fw4jv10 ай бұрын

    No second radiator required. Recirculate warmed water and introduce cold water via mixing valve when setpoint is exceeded. It's really that simple.

  • @CincoDave27
    @CincoDave27 Жыл бұрын

    Love the ideas and the way you approach the art of BBQ with a scientific method. This idea a lot of room left to explore for sure.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @papascruffy
    @papascruffy Жыл бұрын

    Pretty cool experiment, worth a try, Thanks man!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @paulli1874
    @paulli1874 Жыл бұрын

    Always love your experiments! Thanks

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Paul!

  • @backyard_pitmaster2893
    @backyard_pitmaster2893 Жыл бұрын

    That is, actually, awesome. This may be a game changer for small backyard smokers.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe one day!

  • @Keasbeysknight
    @Keasbeysknight Жыл бұрын

    I have an old brinkmann 1/4 offset that looks identical to the Yoder Cheyenne. I bought the 1/4" tuning plate for the Cheyenne and it was a little too long so it got hacked to length. Removed about 3"x10" of steel. What a night and day difference. I can now throw in hefty splits or forget about it and the temps just stay locked in around 220-250 where before it was work to stay below 275. I still can burn super clean fires and it has really good draw. I think once my thermal mass in the whole smoker gets up to temp, it now has enough mass that it's idle temp is around 220. The fire being obstructed as soon as it comes into the cooking are has no chance but to be deflected and absorbed so the convection heat remaining must not be more than 250f. I am super pleased with this and now it's easier to tend the fire but I also don't burn the bottom of my brisket. Huge wins all around.

  • @FallnEmpire
    @FallnEmpire11 ай бұрын

    Dry erase markers are quite "remarkable"! Cool, videos! I pulled the trigger on my OK Joe smoker after watching some of your videos! Thanks!

  • @foodonfire3662
    @foodonfire3662 Жыл бұрын

    It seems that if one wants the offset smoker effect one will have to attend the fire with some regularity. For those who want to run unattended BBQ cookers (myself!) a OJ Bronco Pro (I have the smaller version) and a PID controller (mine is a FireBoard with Fan Controller) anyone can have temperatures that don't vary by more than a few degrees over 14 hours. In any event, thanks for another thought-rich presentation on the world of BBQ.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Yea whatever I seem to do, if I want that offset flavor there's always manual effort involved

  • @toranas1500
    @toranas1500 Жыл бұрын

    Great concept. It definitely gives me some ideas on how to cool the smoker. It's really tough to manage a fire and keep it low. When you live in temperatures of 110+, and the ambient temp of the smoker in the sun is 125+, it's really hard to keep it to 225. I do worry about the type of metal in the radiator and if it would give off any chemicals under high heat.

  • @hereweare9011

    @hereweare9011

    Жыл бұрын

    Smoke in the winter, up north lol.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep on hot days it gets even harder.

  • @soumynonareverse7807
    @soumynonareverse7807 Жыл бұрын

    Great experiment again. I've got another one for you: does the distance of for example a brisket to the top of the smoker affect the amount of smoke it gets?

  • @Corless116
    @Corless116 Жыл бұрын

    I have a Horizon 16" offset, same thing you have to get tricky to keep the temps below 275-325. Only way these smokers seem like they would hold low temps is with only coals. I was thinking a separate burn barrel for the wood where you shovel hot coals out of the bottom into the offset's fire chamber might work.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I've tried it. It's a pain in the butt. But it produces an amazing flavor because it's all fresh coals

  • @ericbommer2280
    @ericbommer2280 Жыл бұрын

    Very cool idea, and a fun experiment. But I would worry the radiator will get get clogged with Soot eventually and cause more fire issues.

  • @TheTravelingMerchant199
    @TheTravelingMerchant199 Жыл бұрын

    You get a fat dense log layed directly on the fire with a small coal bed with little air flow between the log and coals. That is what works for me. Nice blue smoke most the entire time. It took me listening to jirby from goldies bbq the number 1 in Texas to realize we don't need clean smoke all the time. We don't need to have rock solid temps. We just relax and have fun without all the nitpicking and I made the best brisket I ever had with the worst cut of meat.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome!

  • @Dan-by2vj
    @Dan-by2vj Жыл бұрын

    Post a link to the radiator? I've got the same ok joe and thinking on the same goal as you. Low and slow with less fire babysitting, your snake method video with the coconut charcoal is great, will be trying a smoke like that soon

  • @haggardfalcone
    @haggardfalcone Жыл бұрын

    Honestly this could be the first step towards having an offset which runs as hands free as a pellet smoker. Having an electronic controller on the flow valve, to allow it to open and close based on a digital thermometer to adjust the temp, as well as a feeding system for the splits. You could even set up the feeder so it passes along the top of the fire box to get the splits toasty before they go in so they catch easier. It would need some kind of mechanical assistance though.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Man that would be cool!

  • @justincarpenter6147

    @justincarpenter6147

    Жыл бұрын

    I have been wanting to design something like this for many years. You can also have a micro controller that is hooked up to a fan that rotates the fan blades at a variable frequency based on temperature, then aim that fan into the fire box door.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ
    @SmokeTrailsBBQ9 ай бұрын

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  • @BearNPum
    @BearNPum Жыл бұрын

    Nice test. Would have been interesting to see how air through the radiator (rather than water) would have worked. Ala automotive turbo intercooler in reverse. No wasted water and could increase/ decrease air flow easily. May have already been suggested, but if not, would be nice to see.

  • @televisionpilot3551
    @televisionpilot3551 Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the experiment. Tuning/baffle plates and maybe a water pan is all you need

  • @JohnSmith-yr6je
    @JohnSmith-yr6je Жыл бұрын

    Just curious. For the masterbuilt gravity. I have the lss vent mod to close the opening. Is this good for smoking low and slow or would it make less smoke?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't have that smoker sorry!

  • @joseph-ow1hf
    @joseph-ow1hf Жыл бұрын

    Love it. Backyard engineering genius.

  • @user-zd5nd9nr4p
    @user-zd5nd9nr4p Жыл бұрын

    how much water did you go through? lon a per hour basis?

  • @christianjohnson3354
    @christianjohnson3354 Жыл бұрын

    Have you ever tried the drive blower by fire board? It’s a fan that goings on your firebox baffle.

  • @hillsidesmoke7592
    @hillsidesmoke7592 Жыл бұрын

    I commend you. It takes balls to post up a video that's so different from anything anyone has ever tried. Looks to me like your The Mad Scientist at BBQ 😉😉

  • @IslenoGutierrez
    @IslenoGutierrez Жыл бұрын

    Something like this could be nearly set it and forget it if someone could invent some sort of device to drop a split whenever the temperature falls to a certain point after being cooled by the radiator to that point. This could really be viable if someone would create such a combo. Nice work.

  • @poptart8741
    @poptart8741 Жыл бұрын

    Can you put a link up for that little radiator please

  • @josephholler7899
    @josephholler7899Ай бұрын

    Do you have a video on how to reversed smoke stack

  • @ShotgunTuck
    @ShotgunTuck Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! can you try a pellet mod to an offset and see how well that works?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I did years ago. It's in one of my videos. It runs a steady temp but uses alot of pellets. And still no offset flavor. Not sure it's worth it.

  • @matthewwilson1044
    @matthewwilson104410 күн бұрын

    Interesting. Running into the same temps at 275-300 with a plate mod. Not a terrible temp to have considering its reading from the lid thermostat. What was the temp without water and just the coil blocking the firebox? I’d be more interested in that rather than all the hook ups.

  • @markennes5208
    @markennes5208 Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent vid! I actually have a new Honda Fit radiator up in the attic that I bought and didn't need and never returned, so maybe I'll install this in my OKJ Highland. THANKS! :-) ...Edit: I'd like to know how much better tasting was the brisket/ribs/whatever - burning straight splits rather than charcoal and splits. THANKS

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a bit of a difference. Burning with all splits is more flavor.

  • @timbauer5286
    @timbauer5286 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Steve, you know how to get us thinking! What about a smoke house? Any room in your back yard for building one and cooking in it?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to but no room!

  • @mooresmoke3543
    @mooresmoke3543 Жыл бұрын

    What bad chemicals are coming off the radiator onto the food though? You made the comment about the rubber hose

  • @HipHopJunky
    @HipHopJunky Жыл бұрын

    @smoketrailsbbq have you ever used/tested/reviewed a “pit master IQ 110”? I know you’ve made videos about cooking and being able to leave the smoker for long periods to sleep or whatever and wondering if this was ever tested by you or an option…?

  • @apexcustomsmokers
    @apexcustomsmokers Жыл бұрын

    Great mod, I realize once you own an offset with a smaller firebox you're kind of committed lol. Perfect example why oversize fireboxes are becoming more popular, and why all my builds include them. It's all the off gases from the wood that causes the temp spikes, an oversized firebox has space for said gases to burn off before reaching the cook chamber, resulting in lower, more even Temps.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    That's good to know. Maybe welding another okj firebox on it to extend it would work

  • @jonbuettner270
    @jonbuettner270 Жыл бұрын

    Dude. You are a genius.

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 Жыл бұрын

    Dude! Great video. That's where you want to smoke though, just below boiling at 205 to 215 as it won't boil off moisture in the meat. Keep in mind that the boiling point of water that isn't pure is higher than 212F and it also freezes at a point lower than 32F. These properties are known as Colligative properties.

  • @WhoDat70
    @WhoDat70 Жыл бұрын

    I use a convection plate on mine, with water pan. I burn one 12 inch split at a time and have no problem keeping 225 to 250 all day long. Lump charcoal added every 2 to 4 hrs.

  • @donnybondeson318
    @donnybondeson318 Жыл бұрын

    Did the smoke seem to make it through the radiator fine? Wondering if it would alter the smoke flavor at all

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. It condenses a bit though

  • @SmokingDadBBQ
    @SmokingDadBBQ Жыл бұрын

    Fun experiment

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @BigAlsBBQ
    @BigAlsBBQ Жыл бұрын

    How has OHJ not asked you to design their new pits. This mod is the thing of legends 🎉

  • @threengcircus
    @threengcircus Жыл бұрын

    Interesting. Have you tried a water pan at the chamber entrance or even in the firebox? Given that water likes to 'steal' energy that may help to lower temps given the same size fire.

  • @haggardfalcone

    @haggardfalcone

    Жыл бұрын

    This is what I do to control temp in my small offset.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    In the chamber yes. In the firebox it just boils off so quickly. A big water pan is probably the cheapest and easiest temp control option. It acts as a heat sync and stabilized temps.

  • @g-keys7078
    @g-keys7078 Жыл бұрын

    Dry erase markers, remarkable 😂. Thank you.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha thanks for watching!

  • @wpherigo1
    @wpherigo1 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got the OKJ longhorn which has a smoker are half the size of yours, and an only slightly smaller fire box. The other side of the smoker is the gas grill. I’d need one radiator inside to capture the heat, another outside to cool the water down, and a flow rate adjustment to act as a thermostat. I think. But low and slow temps are a problem!

  • @Brent_Hannan

    @Brent_Hannan

    Жыл бұрын

    You have the Longhorn Combo, the actual OKJ Longhorn is bigger than the Highland.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yea the combo. Temp control would be even harder in that

  • @1tr1ck
    @1tr1ck Жыл бұрын

    Great idea. Your a smart man 👍

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BigChuck525
    @BigChuck525 Жыл бұрын

    I agree with others about trying a closed loop but I'm not sure a pump is needed. You could plum the lines into the side of a steel drum, maybe 20 or 30 gallon, put one fitting on the side of the drum somewhere around 1/3 of the way down from the top of the drum and the other fitting on the side of the drum at the bottom. Hot will move to cold at cycle the water without a pump. Also it saves water.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Now that's some next level thinking!

  • @notaliberalfromcali6245
    @notaliberalfromcali6245 Жыл бұрын

    This is GREAT!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @purpleheartbbq576
    @purpleheartbbq576 Жыл бұрын

    I have an ok joe and I can tell you if you take the charcoal box out it is much easier to control temps

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    The basket?

  • @purpleheartbbq576

    @purpleheartbbq576

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ yes, especially around 200-225 it is much easier for me

  • @cliffvictoria3863
    @cliffvictoria3863 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting concept! How about adding a thermostat controlled valve and pump that allow different levels of fresh cold and recirculated hot water into the radiator? If the temperature gets too hot, it introduces more cold water. Gets too cold, it shuts off the cold water and pumps from the hot water reservoir allowing you to set a temperature and have the system maintain it. (Edited for clarity)

  • @grizzle273463
    @grizzle273463 Жыл бұрын

    Changing the BBQ world one video at a time

  • @lh6433
    @lh6433 Жыл бұрын

    Hey, can I ask why don’t you get a Masterbuilt gravity smoker (charcoal) and use that digital control with wood?? Love to see you cook your briskets on this bbq.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Just not in the budget for me now and too many smokers. Maybe one day.

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    @blondeguy08

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQthey run sales at Walmart and Costco and seen them down to $299 for masterbuilt 800 and 900 series

  • @csmith6483
    @csmith648319 күн бұрын

    For lower temps, lay wood horizontal if you can making a natural draft prevention.

  • @deletesoon70
    @deletesoon70 Жыл бұрын

    This appears to be a stroke of genius. Prediction: this vid has triggered a blizzard of emails and calls at smoker manufacturers r&d departments.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol! Not quite

  • @deletesoon70

    @deletesoon70

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Hey don't be so sure! 😀

  • @whitecb7coupe176
    @whitecb7coupe176 Жыл бұрын

    Came here for the BBQ content, stayed to support a fellow vet. Stay safe out there buddy CM

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @adde32332
    @adde32332 Жыл бұрын

    I subscribed because you are creating really creative bbq content. Love this idea, because of it's originality. I would think that the radiator would block the airflow. Have you experienced any of that? And are you running your firebox completely open for the full cook? You should consider making your stack larger. I know you got it to 5", but 6" is a lot bigger. That's what I'm using, and that solved the issue of getting the smoker too hot.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks James! No it doesn't block airflow. I run with the door open. Right now the stack diameter is more than enough. I would have done 4 or 4.5 inches if I could do it again.

  • @adde32332

    @adde32332

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ I used to have the same problem, of the cook chamber burning too hot, increasing the stack to 6" solved it. In fact, I find it hard now to get past 280. I'm certain if you increased the diameter that you wouldn't need to use the radiator. What's happening is that chamber is getting so hot because the heat is getting back up. You should consider doing another video of upgrading your stack again. You will be surprised.

  • @rodericamos127
    @rodericamos1272 ай бұрын

    Perfect Draft BBQ

  • @tylergamble5471
    @tylergamble5471 Жыл бұрын

    Perhaps using a needle valve for your water flow, instead of the quarter turn valve will give you better control, without the need to cut the fins.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes my valve is not very precise

  • @SandroBBQ
    @SandroBBQ Жыл бұрын

    I always appreciate experiments and trying new things, I'm a tinkerer myself. However, I need to bust your bubble a bit-the lower temperatures are due to the impeded airflow at the exchange. Small offsets in Europe come with a porous ceramic baffle that serves that exact purpose. If you desire lower temps and longer-lasting fires use full-sized splits on the bottom of the firebox, keep them close together and keep the flames low. While this was obviously a fun experiment I wouldn't get any food near that thing-you don't know where it was made, where and how it was welded, whether it was painted, and so on. Big disclaimer there. As long as you're having fun though, it's all good. BBQ tends to be much less complicated than we sometimes would like it to be. Cheers

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    No bubble busted at all! When there's no water flow in it the temp goes up like normal, which suggests it's the cold water, not impeded airflow, that is dropping the temps.

  • @zacharystucki

    @zacharystucki

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ But what about the chemicals. The video mentions swapping out rubber hoses for metal ones, but are you worried about chemicals coming from other sources? Are you thinking you'll actually use this in the long-term?

  • @WilliamRayCook

    @WilliamRayCook

    Жыл бұрын

    That doesn’t make sense to me. While you are going to get a small amount of airflow reduction, the cross-sectional area for flow at this point in the smoker is still considerably larger than both the firebox inlet and the stack. This point in an Oklahoma Joe’s Highland simply is not the bottleneck in the system even with this addition. And I do understand the aerodynamic effects. The fact is that many systems employ such heat exchangers with very little back pressure. A case in point would be the stacks on ships where exhaust gases are used to preheat combustion air.

  • @lancefloyd8643
    @lancefloyd8643 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Lance!

  • @r.w.199
    @r.w.199 Жыл бұрын

    The radiators on motorcycles are smaller. Have you considered filling the radiator with distilled water and capping the radiator with no tubes? A small motorcycle radiator would probably allow a higher temp and the larger a lower.. the caps could allow for an easier management as you could be fighting the efficiency of the radiator and you've reached, and exceeded the diminishing return?.. excellent idea. I'll give it a go myself.. I'm also a 10min adder, open lid, close lid, constant battle to keep it at about 260-275.. cheers

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Could work!

  • @noejunior-nocode
    @noejunior-nocode Жыл бұрын

    Quite remarkable 😊

  • @JNeathawk
    @JNeathawk Жыл бұрын

    What about bringing the firebox farther away from the cook chamber? Install in insulated pipe between the two and you can even have a smoke stack in between to help regulate the air transfer. It should provide similar results with two added benefits. No water waste. The smoke stack in the middle would allow you to release dirty smoke before it enters the cook chamber. Of course putting a radiator in this section is also possible.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I could try that for sure. I've thought of doing similar things in the past but as soon as I need to cut large holes, weld, fabricate etc. I think twice about it. This radiator thing only took me an hour to install and I just needed a drill.

  • @Jamesskains

    @Jamesskains

    Жыл бұрын

    That's the thing this guy in the video doesn't understand. You actually want tempestuous fluctuations. That's how you develop all the flavor compound in burning wood. If you're having trouble maintaining a range of low temps then it's all about air flow. Always open your exhaust vent fully, then use your intake vent as your control.

  • @KPHVAC
    @KPHVAC Жыл бұрын

    I think the better solution is to buy a better offset smoker! I know that isn't a cheap options but considering how much you BBQ it's the right option.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a better offset smoker. Still like tinkering on this one though. Less fuel used.

  • @jasonpettis4691
    @jasonpettis4691 Жыл бұрын

    Have you considered a regulator on the outlet of the radiator? Being able to control the outgoing flow of water should allow you to change the efficiency of the heat dissipation without having to alter the radiator itself.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I had a little valve to control the flow but even with a trickle it was too efficient

  • @jasonpettis4691

    @jasonpettis4691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ was it on the inlet or outlet? I would think that it would need to be on the outlet, otherwise the rate of flow will remain the same. The volume and pressure would be reduced, but there would still be a steady flow of water. By restricting the outlet you would actually create a bit of back pressure that would cause the water to remain inside the radiator longer, which should greatly reduce efficiency, but could theoretically create the need for a pressure relief valve in case the back pressure became too high.

  • @fyimediaworld
    @fyimediaworld Жыл бұрын

    I use my water pan as the radiator. It works.

  • @perniciousprogressive8333
    @perniciousprogressive83333 ай бұрын

    Wi-Fi controllable flow control valve for remote control, or maybe add an Arduino controller to that to maintain parameters? You're the mad scientist of BBQ. Very cool. 😊

  • @JWFas
    @JWFas Жыл бұрын

    5:00 is when you officially became a dad.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol yes!

  • @rickf.9253
    @rickf.9253 Жыл бұрын

    I like the way you think! That head is not just a hat rack!

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rick!

  • @pondafarr
    @pondafarr Жыл бұрын

    One might say this is a...pipe dream...(but still wanna try it!)

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha!

  • @Justin_Holt
    @Justin_Holt Жыл бұрын

    If any of the joints of the cooler are soldered, you definitely don't want it anywhere near fire. Most likely will contain lead or some sort of toxic bonding material. Would suggest stainless steel tubing coiled going to bucket with pump recycling the water.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    I burned it in for a few cooks before cooking anything with it. But yea there's always risk unless it's a food grade stainless steel contraption. Or maybe a coil of copper tubing

  • @Justin_Holt

    @Justin_Holt

    Жыл бұрын

    Possibly running it in reverse, sealed water sink in the cook chamber to the tranny cooler outside of the smoker with fan blowing air thru the fins?!

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 Жыл бұрын

    A very good experiment.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Appreciate you watching all my vids. I see you!

  • @CoolJay77

    @CoolJay77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Thank you Steve for the valuable contents of your videos. Most big BBQ channels are about recipes, but they get mundane after a while. OTOH, there is quite alot to learn from your experiments, discoveries and covering new grounds. You introduce ideas that one can follow, tweak and develop upon. Countless examples, such as pulling briskets at lower than the conventional temperature, injecting with gelatin, your comparison on different ways to make pork ribs, and on and on. Please keep them coming.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CoolJay77 will do!

  • @WarChortle
    @WarChortle Жыл бұрын

    I think a pump would be better than using a garden attachment that way the water going through the radiator would already be as cool. Fuel management for stick burners are always going to be hard I think unless you figure out a way to gravity feed small chunks of wood.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    For sure I need to figure out something with a pump

  • @mikecarter523
    @mikecarter523 Жыл бұрын

    This dude needs to partner with Mad Scientist BBQ! That would br a wicked video!

  • @taccosnachos
    @taccosnachos Жыл бұрын

    Wow very interesting concept. I think the temp controlled fans they sell, like bbq guru, might do the job if you could figure out how to mount it.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Never tried them but would like to

  • @llemmon

    @llemmon

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking of the same with a fire board, would be ideal

  • @fletchercarpenter5393
    @fletchercarpenter5393 Жыл бұрын

    What would happen if you used air instead of water? The water through the radiator at the beginning was much too efficient. Air is a lot less efficient and carrying heat away (as you demonstrated with the bags) and so I wonder if blowing air through the radiator would give enough temp reduction to hit the 225 sweet spot.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea to test. I have an air compressor.

  • @Jolley86

    @Jolley86

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda like the tankers used for liquid nitrogen and using the radiators to heat the liquid into gas.

  • @paintballercali
    @paintballercali Жыл бұрын

    The radiator needs to be be a closed loop with a thermostat maybe connect to to another set of radiators with cooling fans to dump the heat. Then you could just set a temp.

  • @shelbyaaron6

    @shelbyaaron6

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes I agree, it needs the water to rotate in at a slightly cooler temp than it came out in basically what you said, a closed loop; like it was designed to do.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be cool. I think I'd need a variable speed pump. Or maybe a remote controlled ball valve.

  • @paintballercali

    @paintballercali

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ I don't think a straight off and on would create that much variability in the heat as long as the was of dumping heat to the environment was efficient enough

  • @69Crimthann
    @69Crimthann11 күн бұрын

    If you used a bucket and a recirculating pump you could use the heated water and if needed add cooler water. Less water waste.

  • @JR-fw4jv
    @JR-fw4jv10 ай бұрын

    You need a thermostatically controlled mixing valve

  • @EssexCountyPhoto
    @EssexCountyPhoto Жыл бұрын

    I've put 6 pizza oven bricks inside the smoke box of my OKJ... It helps a bit...

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting!

  • @justincarpenter6147
    @justincarpenter6147 Жыл бұрын

    Cool trick. I came into this problem as well (hence why I am here). My solution right now is to open the 4 different "doors" in different scenarios. The valve at the top and side to give more or less oxygen to the fire to micro manage heat The fire lid to avoid thick smoke and give the logs air to combust if the fire goes out Then I open the main chamber lid when the temperature starts shooting up past 250 (my last resort) So far this has been pretty successful. I can keep my cook around 200-250 with a fire burning (I use split logs from my grocery store). Although I do have to spend 5 minutes every 20 or so minutes for upkeep. That was why I chose an offset smoker though I suppose lol... So for "making the radiator less efficient", how come you did not want to use warmer water? You could probably dump water into the same bucket you pull it from then replace the water every few as it starts doing its job less well. You may even not need to replace the water if it cools down fast enough in the bucket from the ambient temperature.

  • @WilliamRayCook
    @WilliamRayCook Жыл бұрын

    It needs a valve controlled by a simple PID circuit. Then7 you could pretty much set it and forget it. It could even alarm if it's having to reduce the water too much, so you know you had better tend the fire. I wish Thermoworks was an open platform

  • @InterTay

    @InterTay

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Know where to get a pid controller like that?

  • @WilliamRayCook

    @WilliamRayCook

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Give me a couple of days on that one. I have a friend who does this stuff all the time. Partly depends on your level of tech savvy

  • @chipsammich2078
    @chipsammich2078 Жыл бұрын

    first minute in.. describes my oklahoma Joe temps to the exact T.. I'm in

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome!

  • @norbertomoran4575
    @norbertomoran457524 күн бұрын

    Wife: “Come inside I need you to help with the baby!” Dude: “Not right now. I’m adjusting the radiator I installed in the smoker to make it cooler, so that it won’t work as well!” Wife: 😵‍💫

  • @eddiejimenez6900
    @eddiejimenez6900 Жыл бұрын

    I like closed loop idea. If I may, how about having a large tank of water with a submersible pump connected to an temperature controller. if the radiator becomes too efficient it turns off the pump. then when the temp gets too hot it kicks on the pump.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Not a bad idea. I wonder if inkbird has a controller like that.

  • @eddiejimenez6900

    @eddiejimenez6900

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Inkbird ITC-308 they have a wifi version.. you can monitor remotely! Dad hacks for the win!

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle Жыл бұрын

    2nd radiator and pump makes closed system. 2nd radiator vents water heat.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    That would be cool

  • @rayjermyn4541
    @rayjermyn45418 ай бұрын

    Hmm. Interesting. I always thought most flavor happened earlier in the smoke before the meat cap began to harden?

  • @rustyshackleford2723
    @rustyshackleford2723 Жыл бұрын

    What about smoke? It block the smoke?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope!

  • @HankeB
    @HankeB4 ай бұрын

    Second radiator, water pump, and a fan could be the ultimate way to keep this going for longer without constantly running water. Might just need to put a regulator in the hose to control flow.

  • @hardlifesurvivor4404
    @hardlifesurvivor44049 ай бұрын

    What about a smaller radiator wouldn't of that worked instead of cutting

  • @ryd-er-die6697
    @ryd-er-die66975 ай бұрын

    Are you sure you were in the army Cuz thats some marine quality drawing right there

  • @rheeslane
    @rheeslane Жыл бұрын

    This is a cool idea, but aside from the hose giving off bad stuff, that radiator is probably a little poison factory. I wouldn't cook with that. I do wonder if there is a food safe radiator type product on the market.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably could make one out of a copper coil

  • @jrellison1963
    @jrellison1963 Жыл бұрын

    Just go with Gravity Charcoal Smoker - some folks even use nearly all wood in them.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Heard alot of good things!

  • @ashgiles4401
    @ashgiles4401 Жыл бұрын

    How much water you use in a 10 hr cook?

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Never measured it. Probably alot. But it all went into the grass.

  • @ashgiles4401

    @ashgiles4401

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Im in Australia. Water is valuable here. Thanks for the great content. having young ones when you did, I can completely relate. Cheers

  • @randyhogan3071
    @randyhogan3071 Жыл бұрын

    Love the concept bro... but pretty silly

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    It works though!

  • @oldshovelhead
    @oldshovelhead Жыл бұрын

    Great experiment!!! Really glad to see you working on the problem we all seem to have with the Highland - wicked temp swings which can require babysitting the smoker. I've been running mine for close to 15 years, (not continuously of course 🤣) and the battle of the firebox lives on. VERY basic mods on my Highland - food safe LavaLock when I assembled the unit, a 90 elbow on the inside of the smoke chamber at the stack outlet, and I fab'd an 18g sheet metal deflector inside the smoke chamber at the inlet from the firebox which in theory, forces the heat and smoke down and seems to create better convection. No other mods, no gaskets on the lids or clamps etc. I do use a wireless "remote" thermometer to monitor temps at the grate level. Still requires a lot of fire management to mitigate the temp swing....I don't think there is a way around that with the small firebox on the OJH. What I have been able to do is minimize the temp swing by anticipating the need to stoke the fire by closely watching my remote thermometer - the temps will fluctuate especially on a breezy day, but when I see that temp flatten out and then slowly start to drop a degree or two every couple of minutes I know it's time to stoke the fire and/or add fuel (wood, typically Hickory splits for me). I use that VAUNO thermometer - it's really cheap and has great signal strength. Didn't mean to write a book here - just wanted to get in on this one since I REALLY appreciate all the effort Smoke Trails makes to share these videos on the OJH.

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! That's how I do it too. I just watch the temp on my phone and pop out to add another split when it starts peaking or flattening out in temps

  • @oldshovelhead

    @oldshovelhead

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeTrailsBBQ Experience! Love your channel man- got a follower for life!

  • @atskooc
    @atskooc Жыл бұрын

    Remarkable…I get it.

  • @NubLife
    @NubLife5 ай бұрын

    Julabo coolers would control temp with a radiator setup.

  • @edgeofeternity101
    @edgeofeternity1014 ай бұрын

    Just remember to sit next to the tree trunk when you are sawing off the branch.

  • @RHEC1776
    @RHEC1776 Жыл бұрын

    How I get those temperatures is I have a 1 inch thick piece of aluminum the I place between the lid off the coal chamber. It releases some heat but the smoke still goes through the cook chamber

  • @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    @SmokeTrailsBBQ

    Жыл бұрын

    Ahh yea you Crack it open a bit. I do that with a spoon or my fire poker sometimes. Works but burns up the fuel alot faster

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