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@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

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Its nice to see you rolling again. Your experiments shows you know what your talking about. Lots of info in your vids. Cheers.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

More to come! Thank you.

Keep it going Kevin! Love your experiment-approach! Thanks for your efforts in sharing this very useful information. Great stuff!

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

More to come! Thank you for the comment and keeping me motivated!

This is a huge help! Thanks for sharing your findings.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thank you for the deep dive into this data! I really appreciate you putting this video out here 👍🏻

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, glad I could help!

I was seriously planning to buy one of these... thank goodness you made a video about it.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it help, its hard finding videos that actually make relevant points, that's what I've been focusing on. Hopefully its coming across that way.

Yeah I think this video helps to explain why my factory lid thermometers and grill level probes are reading pretty much the same constantly on my Highland. It didn't start happening until I put the make shift baffle plate in there.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, the baffle place makes all the difference!

Best chimney starter I’ve ever seen! Thank you

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

👍

This was great video full of the info I needed. Thank you

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is consistent with my experience, I have a double-barrel traditional offset, and if it were much smaller then I would definitely want a reverse flow. With the larger smoker I get different zones, the area nearest the firebox cooks like a drum smoker with radiant infrared heat (great for chicken, tri tip) and the barrel furthest from the firebox is pure convection for briskets ribs etc.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

It’s good to know what your smoker is doing👍

Exactly the content I needed !

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Pretty cool, I didn’t know ok joe has both standard and reverse flow. Good analysis Kevin!

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charley, it’s a neat setup for sure!

That’s a cool test. I didn’t know the grill could do both

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, its a pretty sweet setup. Thanks!

@mannyr8795

Жыл бұрын

Do you need to buy a certain attachment? From what I could gather reverse flow is more consistent temp. Is it better cooker? I have a kamado joe but wanted to get an offset. Do you recommend any in particular?? Thanks

I use the traditional chimney when I grill putting the charcoal in the smoke chamber 2 chimneys of charcoal. I gotta say the food ends up way better than other grills. As a smoker I still struggle with draft so thinking I'm gonna extend the stack height couple feet for better natural draft and give that a go...soon as winter is over.

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Keep me posted on how that works, I personally didn’t have much luck with it, but I did half ass it.

Dang it! Ive never thought about using propane cooker to light charcoal chimney! Thanks!

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Now the student becomes the master.

great video👍

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

Really considering picking up the traditional highland !

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a solid smoker but I would try and track one down on FB marketplace. Brand new the prices are so expensive right now!

@tswarner67

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking that’s what I did! Found one on there hardly used but with upgrades for 100

Whoop!!! 🙌🏻 🔥 Bad ass video from a bad ASS man!!! Great job honey! 😊 Missed ya much! ❤️ I’m so proud of you and your channel.. you’re seriously killin’ it.. as I always knew you would! Much love! 🥰 PS.. better keep that beard! 🧔🏻😉

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Rexy, appreciate the love, and yes, the beard is staying!

@CookingWithRexy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking ☺️😘

Sounds like maybe it should only be available in the reverse flow configuration from OKJ. I found some peace with two mods in mine and it cost me almost nothing... The first was the Meat Cranium mod and that is wrapping the fire box grates in foil to baffle the fire some and keep the fire in the fire box. When I did my second mod it really messed me up for a few minutes... I essentially lowered the exhaust stack to grate level by using a half seving tray to lean against the side and go down to the cooking grate. The part that messed me up was the hot air and smoke was running right out my stack so I had to remove one of my make shift baffles and this has made it a much better cooker

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

That second mod sounds like a challenge, its very interesting how liitle changes can effect the dynamics of the air flow. I'll have to check out the Meat Cranium mod.

@justplanefred

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking the Meat Cranium mod is simply the foil rapped grates.

@justplanefred

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking also the second mod isn't very hard either. The stack is in its factory location. I used a half serving pan kind of like the elbow but it doesn't take as much space from the wall of the smoker.

With the traditional flow is why some of us use a elbow on the stack. It lowers the stack to grate level.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

That's a great way to do it!

@brianwilliams309

3 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking i am running my ribs with one now.

Great Video. How often do you have to refill the charcoal bin/add wood to maintain a cook overnight in the OKH? I use a WSM22 with Fireboard and Fan. I can get 19hrs out of 1 bag of charcoal with steady 225-250 temps.

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

I literally just gave this smoker a way to a friend today. I was always using my WSM 18in instead of this. When I used it, you would add wood, every 25-35 minutes, and add charcoal every 2 hours.

Perhaps they had a large stock of traditional highlands and the made the reverse flow by just modding the original highlands. That's why the traditional option exhaust is so higg

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

I am not sure, but that is a really good point. It would make sense.

What if you left the baffles in with the stack in the traditional offset smoker position? The baffle plates alone add more thermal mass.

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Traditional method I keep 2 baffles in, seems like that works well. Keeping all four in could be interesting

I hear a lot of good things with the stack extension. Do a comparison of that. Would love to see your results.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

I did a video on that, but I don’t think I did it right. Need to research more on proper dimensions, mine was too long. I was just following what I saw online, throw a long stack on there and you are good, but that’s not correct.

@johngreen5837

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking 18" bbq smoker mods makes one

Would it still work as effective if you kept the baffle plate in during the traditional highland exhaust placement?

@ComparisonCooking

3 ай бұрын

I normally used two baffle plates on the traditional flow setup. Just because its a more compact unit.

That’s the only kingsford that is worth using in my opinion

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

👍

Hey, I just got a Chargriller Champ. I've been wrestling with the idea of making it a reverse flow. I have a bit of experience fabricating metal, so that's not a concern. I'm pretty sure this should transfer to the Chargriller. Thanks

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

I love a big reverse flow, but after making this video I kept the Oklahoma Joe in the traditional setup with two baffle plates. The air flow just seemed to choked down (even with vents wide open) for the size of the smoker. You would probably have better luck if you got the proper length and width of the stack then I did with the OJ. It really needed a wider taller stack for better pull, It was a struggle getting it to hold above 225F. Keep me posted and good luck!

Can you use the same tuning plates from the reverse flow in the none reverse flow?

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you can. I'm planning on showing that in an upcoming video!

Do you find this smoker to be very low? I just out mine together far enough to stand it up and was very surprised the cooking surface is only 30" off the ground. Do you use it like that or did you raise it somehow?

thanks,ive been thinking of converting my highland to reverse flow.ive had for 7 yrs and still not easy.i have high dollar tuner plates which is better but....also have alot of mods and tried even more.im very curious to see how temps .would be with original stack place with the baffles for reverse flow

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

I plan on doing that probably next. Along with also taking out one of or two of the plates for the reverse flow to see if that helps bring temperature up. Thanks for watching Tony. Hopefully these videos finally give you the conclusion on converting or not.

With the exhaust wide open and firebox intake wide open it doesn't retain heat..

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

On some of these smokers you are 100% right.

What make is your apron, I like the look of it?

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

amzn.to/38ACqn3

How do you keep your walls and grates so dry/clean looking? I've had trouble with that. Mine consistently stays Greecy/oily (alot of smoke build up) I haven't found a method that stays clean

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

This is one way to clean it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/onuomMp9abWtXaw.html The other thing is, i didn't use this smoker that much, probably a total of 12-15 cooks. The one in the video linked in this comment, i had cooked on it 3 times a week for months.

Wat kinda thermometer do you use I have a mobile trailer grill I need a good one that uses Bluetooth wat do you recommend

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

I've always had good luck with Inkbirds.

So are we only supposed to use the baffles during reverse flow smoking?

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Wait for the Reverse sear does it come with those baffle plates ?

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

Yes

I noticed your firebox is sagging. I have seen other Oklahoma Joe smokers do the same thing! I want to buy an Oklahoma Joe but the sagging firebox concerns me!! I hope they have corrected that problem!

@ComparisonCooking

3 ай бұрын

They typically sag, i got a $15 car jack holder to keep my old one level. I didn't keep this one long so i don't think i recorded the jack in these videos.

Did you notice an fuel consumption difference with reverse flow vs traditional. Lots of conflicting information out there, people claiming reverse flow is less efficient (more fuel being burned) while others claim it's more efficient.

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

It’s been a while since I did this one. What I remember is it didn’t want to get above 235F even when I was loading it up with fuel, so I could see how it’s less efficient.

so if im gonna buy one of these im better off spending the little extra getting the reverse flow?

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

I'm always using the traditional flow at this point. So if you haven't pulled the trigger you might want to save the money.

so on a traditional 250 isnt really 250 with the gauge sitting that high,,,, good info, although now i feel like it should be common since

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah once you realize it’s one of those things like duh. We all do it

trad offset provides the best smoke IMO

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

I have always been reverse flow fanboy, but I am starting to lean towards traditional.

@Arlong1776

Жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking I've been waiting to pull the trigger on a legit offset for like two years. I've been watching your channel and others forever, trying to decide. First year I was all about getting a lang reverse flow. FINALLY a month ago I pulled the trigger on a workhorse 1975... can't wait. Best value for price

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

@@Arlong1776 if I had to buy right now, I can’t imagine getting anything else than that workhorse. That thing is built to perfection! Congratulations

What brand are your gloves?

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

I just do a search on Amazon, they are all made from the same material basically.

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

This is the pair I just ordered amzn.to/33ZOufv

Should’ve moved the temp gauge to the left

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

CharGriller Grand Champ ftw

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that smoker looked killer!

What are you using to get that graph?

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

Inkbird Wifi Thermometer. I got the link in the description, but check out their FB page and coupons on Amazon. FB they normally do flash deals where you can get it for 15-40% off sometimes. (coupon on amazon is normally $20.00 off, just check the box by the price.

Ooooooooooooooh so you can move the vent yourself on the reverse???? I did not know that I’m really debating on which Oklahoma Joe I want but now I think I found it

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s pretty cool, but if you haven’t bought it yet I would stick with the regular and save your money. The reverse flow never wanted to burn hotter than 215.

@lasveryown664

Жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking Really? Yeah I haven’t bought it yet I’m debating with traditional and Reverse Flow

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

@@lasveryown664 yeah, the traditional set up just worked better for the airflow/size of that smoker. I love a reverse flow, but it’s just not the right size for it compared to the 120 gallon I run. With the traditional setup you just need on small baffle/deflector by the fire box side of the chamber and it does a good job

@lasveryown664

Жыл бұрын

@@ComparisonCooking what do you think about the smoker itself? Cause I’m reading reviews on the new Oklahoma Joe’s on Lowes and they’re all saying the same thing that the paint peels a lot faster

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

@@lasveryown664 it’s a good starter smoker, paints just going to peel, it happens. Problem is jumping to the next level of smoker is going to be a 1k+ expense. No smoker is perfect and does everything whether you pay $200 or 2000. Also don’t forget to check out Facebook market place and Craigslist for that smoker. Saw a couple the other day on there for $100-$300 range.

How to turn a Oklahoma Joe’s Highland smoker into a reverse flow smoker ?

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

You buy it with that capability, but I run it traditional a lot more than reverse.

I just hate the blue bag I would rather buy the Orange bag

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t remember what’s that is in reference to.

Use it as a stick burner ditch the charcoal

@ComparisonCooking

3 жыл бұрын

True

The music is annoying, otherwise great video.

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

👍 thanks I’ll work on the music

The steel is way to thin and the griddle is not 1/4 thick. Ahhh. No Bueno. Cheers

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

yeah its super thin.

That’s Home Depot stuff. 1/4 reverse flow only. You are comparing Pumps to Niki

@ComparisonCooking

Жыл бұрын

pumps all day!

That's why you don't buy a cheap Box store smoker just go ahead and get yourselves an old country Brazos it's not a big store smoker you don't put it together they'll ship it to you on a pal it there is no assembly required it's 500 pounds it's a lot better than that big Box store garbage

@ComparisonCooking

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I’m a have to touch it once type before buying it. So not having an academy sports close by to check out the Brazos always kept me from buying it, looks like such an awesome smoker too!