Awesome videos! It should be a #4 with fuzzes, and complete the circle.

@ryanspencerlauderdale687

4 жыл бұрын

Juan Martin Reborati They would have to do a series on every single type of fuzz in order to get it all done, because the world of fuzz is likely even bigger than the world of overdrive.

@juanmartinreborati7928

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryanspencerlauderdale687 I would love to see that!

I enjoyed all three parts. My biggest takeaway: I want a Marshall JTM 45.

LOL! I "was" that kid in '78 with a solid state Gibson GA20 amp and my dad got me a DS-1 to get that heavy rock sound. How many thousands of hours I spent playing sitting on the edge of my bed through the DS-1. Silver screw long dash and no indicator light as it really was just a check light. But you knew when it was on. Played through that thing for years then stowed it away. I started using it again and wow, there was that sound of my angry youth. Sounds very similar to the one in the video and is amazing through my various tube amps. I still have the Gibson GA20. Fired it up after watching this vid. Hadn't been played in 25 years and man it is a warm sounding amp. Warmer than what I remember. These videos are inspiring guys! You debunk all the crap and cut right to the tone. I don't agree with absolutely everything but the level of professionalism and guitar skill makes very strong cases for all your choices. These videos are truly inspiring.

I've just rescued my original mk 1 Guvnor that had been just lying around not being used for at least 15 years. Plugged it into the clean channel of my H&K Dual 6L6 Statesman and was like "Why the hell haven't I been using this?!??!!" So I reconfigured my board to fix it on!!

@paultwiselton1996

6 жыл бұрын

Graham Hunt A WTF moment there!!!

This is the gold standard on this topic. Thank you both.

Also all your reviews are great but the natural reverb in that room is just perfect.

Could literally watch this all day.

"Hello ladies..." These guys are the best! My personal favorite combinations were Tele > Guv'nor > AC30 and 335 > DS-1 > Marshall. I was REALLY surprised by the DS-1. It sounded awesome!

I have a Boss DS1 which I bought in 1979 and it is still on my board today

Hopefully this is a 20 part series!! Love it great work

The harmonic 8D complexity with a slight mid presence with a sparkly articullation on top is really great in this video

@sandrosadhukhan

8 жыл бұрын

+That smelly guy on the train "articulation"

Is this an ad for Converse? Neat

In the last year I've become a fan of The Pedal Show. It's interesting to see that they guys have gotten a lot better and being comfortable on camera than they were when this was shot.

Pretty funny how we all have such different tastes. I'd pick Strat - OCD - Marshall as my favorite combination.

Fabulous! Loved these three videos. I bought a Guv'Nor in the 80s and only sold it recently. It was in mint condition with original box. Why oh why did I let it go?? Mick and Dan - you guys are brilliant.

Always a pleasure to hear Micks tasteful technique, especially through these combinations of toys... nice work.

Great review and great POINT: Strong tone is a combination of all 3 components: guitar + amp + pedal.

Loved the idiotbucker remark :D

When you made the comment of the OCD pedal probably not sounding good with a Tele or a Strat. Robin Trower sure gets a great tone from his OCD. But he runs it into a Marshall or a Cornford in the studio on occasion. He also uses the Fulltone Fulltone Drive also :-) You are so right about the Boss Distortion, I got rid of mine because it was very thin sounding unlike the older model that your playing.

@alandeniston9229

8 жыл бұрын

+hawg427 Trower has a Fulltone signature model overdrive he been using for years now. Trower does have great tone.

@hawg427

8 жыл бұрын

+Alan Deniston saw him in concert when I was in High School in 77 before James Dewer passed away :-( The music just oozes out of his fingers. Yes, I am a Trower fanatic.

OCD all the way...i LOVE that sound kinda between dist and fuzz...gained all the way up the distortion of the OCD gets very "fuzzy", i love it...also the LP/HP Switch makes the pedal come alive..

I'm truly enjoying your "highly instructive" videos !! These are quite informative.. some of the best "IF NOT" the best on this site... Not only are they chocked full of great information.. they're just a boatload of fun... Thanks again... looking forward to seeing you in future videos Dan and Mick... across the pond "Yank" in potatoes in Idaho US....

A terrific series of videos so thank you. I have learned a lot and you have unlocked some key mysteries and I am indebted for the knowledge I've gained, thank you.

Thank you so much for that great little series of videos :) I bought a guv'nor (the only classic pedal I was not stupid enough to sell again btw) back when it hit the stage... It worked great with all the different Marshalls I had through the years even today with my sl5 Slash. Well you never go wrong with a driven Marshall, a Paula and a guv'nor of course ;)

Thank you, Guitarist Magazine, for these videos. Unbelievably good tones all the way through, and just when I have to be working towards finals :,)

I gigged with a Marshall Guv'nar years ago, and I agree that it only sounded good with the 'right' amp, otherwise it sounded like someone had covered the amp in a bunch of towels and I was forever tweeking it.

The OCD is much more than a distortion. It's a great low gainer and boost too!

To me, the difference between overdrive and distortion is the clipping of distortion - that high-mid grind that you either love or hate. Due to the clipping, you hear less of the guitar coming through and have a harder time cleaning up with the volume knob. If you need more gain, try stacking overdrives before resorting to a distortion :)

@kyle8442

6 жыл бұрын

intrsoul right. And there's always fuzz for those obvious buzzsaw lick you got. Good advice for forues and rock players. Some people actually think metal guitar sounds good and may need to just hit it with that Rat or even something harder. Boss still sells a ton of Metal Zones.

Although I grew up in the bayou swampy South, listened to all of the Southern rock you could desire, CCR, Molly, 38sp, Lynyrd, SRV, I also loved Rush, Zep, Ozzy, AeroS, AC/DC, DefLep, Ratt, Dokken, and continued into my early 20s with AIC, Metallica all while simultaneously queuing into all of the pop music and alternative bands like The Sundays. Don Henley, Walsh, there have been hundreds of examples of good music that were not blues wanking. To presume that Zakk Wylde plays idiotbuckers is so far beneath me, I make no claim of one better than another in this craft. Sade is welcome on my radio, anytime, any day. So I see these guitarist videos and admire the intellect and integrity, but to be honest, you are a mile from target. None of these 1/2 power low gain demos worked whatsoever, save for the Lovepedal. You might have hit the mark on SRV, close on AC/DC, but there is no Dokken, most Rush also not available. Much less John Sykes. You could though, grow some spine and try. Don't berate those who have come before you and blazed into darkness of The Necromancer, rocked On Through the Night, Balls to the Wall.

@GoDrex

8 жыл бұрын

thank you. I like these guys but I don't like it when they get snobbish

A player must first decide whether the rig is for live shows or for just at home. Then decide upon a specific genre or specific song set or as some general copy band. Then decide whether multiple tunings or a single tuning. Then decide on multiple guitars vs. a single guitar. Then decide how many guitar signals to the P.A. your system must provide. Then choose guitar(s) and amp(s) and speaker(s). Then select a tuner and mute method. Then select gain and modulation effects to match the amps and guitars chosen. Then choose the best order of effects. Then, decide the controls settings. Then decide if effect combinations are effective. Program switch gear to minimize stomp pedal dancing. Use a series of sheets in a spreadsheet program to answer and document the answers to these questions. Ta dam! :)

@markedwards7721

8 жыл бұрын

No wonder it is so complicated!

@kyle8442

6 жыл бұрын

All that and then you realize you need isolated power supply brick because all your 9v batteries are dying. Don't forget an extension cord. And make sure you're grounded or you may get electrocuted when you sing that "ooh la la" backup vocal in the second bridge into the microphone. Rock on!

@grega1207

6 жыл бұрын

Isolated power, ultimate power, crisp, clean??? Get the Strymon Zuma power system and you'll never look back.

That les paul sounds absolutely amazing. You should do a video just playing that gibson through a bunch of different amps. I bet you can't make that guitar sound bad.

This was a great series! I just wish I could hear the Fender amp with some of these pedals.

Totally agree with the guys...Les Paul/Guv'nor/Marshall is just awesome!!! Thanks for this excellent series of reviews...loved em ALL :)

I have that Rat! Glad a grabbed one while they were available. Sounds so good!

You guys are amazing and this was beautiful. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Great series guys. I was surprised how much I liked the Les Paul -> Boss DS-1 -> Marshall. Huge and thick. I've used many of the pedals featured in parts 1-3 and it was cool to see how you guys set them, and which guitar/pedal/amp combos sounded best. A few real surprises in the mix. I now realize I'm always trying to make my Strat sound like a Les Paul, need to go grab one I guess.

Hey, I have that same Marshall Guv'nor pedal. It's wonderful.

As a hard rock and metal player, I've always hated distortion pedals and been more keen on overdrive pedals. But, in retrospect a good amplifier mod or added gain stage is by far more pleasing. Also, the newer preamp type pedals that offer more adjustability are a world apart from distortion and overdrive pedals. My recommendation is moding your amp, adding that gain stage, or the preamp pedals. With that said, I find that to many guitarists are frightened of using 31 band equalizers in their rigs, because it's too daunting. The key is to only remove very little amounts of each frequency at a time. Take time to understand what is so nicely going on, play for a bit, and then move on to either restoring the equalizer to its former position, or remove something else annoying. The wonderful thing about a 31 band equalizer is that you can remove some of that annoying high end hiss without affecting the overall guitar sound at all, also removing frequency that is annoying leaves more room for the good sounding stuff. Good luck.

That Marshall + Marshall combination is so huge.

The analysis of the "OCD" was so surprisongly different then how ive heard that pedal , there are just too many variables to give a proper demo. Running the "OCD" with my 1967 Marshall Plexi and my 1971 Marshall superlead The OCD sounds phenomenal !The Ocd pedal when dialed in correctly can give you not only the TONE of a vintage Marshall but most importantly THE FEEL of a vintage Marshall or tube amp. The OCD PEDAL reacts very much like a TUBE amp in every way when dialed in correctly and sounds spectacular when you roll down the volume on your guitar.The OCD has just too much gain on tap as the1oclockposition to the two o'clock is just enough, However the OCD can also be used as Great Boost pedal bu swirching the gain very low and cranking the volume.The Ocd Pedal isa very important Pedal as it changed how many guitarist think about pedals.

@michael_caz_nyc

8 жыл бұрын

+Mikel Rainone I Agree with everything you said. I have Compared Tons of Overdrives. Fulltone OCD will Never Leave my Pedalboard. I Love Mine. It's Very Versatile. I can get Any Sound that I want or Need from my OCD. - Michael Caz - NYC -

@AlexGeorgakoulis

6 жыл бұрын

I agree totally with you. Especialy that thing you said, if the OCD is dialed CORRECTLY it just sounds phenomenal. I use mine (Fender Tele 52' through Fender DRRI) with tone at 9:00-10:00, volume at 12:00 and gain around 10:00-11:00. I think because of its huge amount of gain that gain range is more than enough and it retains that amp feel perfectly. No need to turn the gain more than 11:00 for me. It will never leave my board! I like to boost it with a Klon before it for that creamy solos as well.

@sbadali1

5 жыл бұрын

Buffalo Bill: on the topic of the OCD, can you define "when dialed in correctly"? How do you have yours setup? FYI: I play a Les Paul through a Marshall DSL-20CR. Thanks!

Speaking as a player who lived through the 80's - it was a rough time, I've never been able to bring myself to buy either a DS1 or a guitar with a locking trem! The older DS1's supposedly sound much different and if a "jazz" guy like Mike Stern can use one to such great effect, they cannot be all bad?!

This has been a real eye-opener, thanks! I have to say, I'm really surprised by The Guv'nor!

haha the "stupid idiot bucker" comment got me laughing

OCD all day for me... great series of videos guys!

Definitely the best ds-1 I've ever heard.

Great series. Maybe do another with the best of the rest using your favorite boutique drives and distortions...

I suggested to Chris George that they reissue the original guv'nor, and he said they looked into it but the dealers felt there'd be little interest in it! Damn, I'd be interested in one.

These are awesome! It might be worth mentioning eq settings on the amps to give an idea of how to replicate these sounds (although obviously depends on the room). maybe even a future bit about setting eq on various amps?!?

@SalisburySimon

8 жыл бұрын

+ihatehume1 Cracking idea!

@dicktwitchy

8 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@WatchesnguitarsDK

8 жыл бұрын

They kind of touched that topic a couple of times on their own channel. It's called Daniel the gig rig.

Just to clarify: Basswood guitars are quite the contrary. They're NOT scooped. They actually have pure mids and thats why they cut thru the mix that much. The bottom end is super tight and almost no treble. What you described, was actually swamp ash guitars, if you want a mid-scooped bodywood. Just 2c

@LocoDirewolf

6 жыл бұрын

RicardoDiazHimself yep, the new guitar that Eddie Van Halen uses is basswood. Sounds just fine.

The DS1 sounds good because he has the tone rolled back The Rat wouldve sounded so much better with the filter backed off so many tonal possibilities

@redv0id

8 жыл бұрын

+MrDragonkarp I had the same thought, don't filter that RAT so much and it will sound just as good or better than the OCD or Guv'nor. Filter should be Left of Center, not right.

@bojackhorseman5367

8 жыл бұрын

+MrDragonkarp This DS1 also sounds better than normal because it's one of the early versions which had a different opamp to the current version.

@StringBender567

7 жыл бұрын

I wish they would have used the Les Paul with the Rat and backed off the distortion because it can definitely get nice overdrive tones and mild distortion. Dimming it into sorta fuzz area isn't its most common use.

Immediately searches eBay, Reverb etc. for the Gov'nor. Add to cart, purchased! Thanks for feeding the monster guys! PS - I have a Shredmaster and it's one of my favorite all time pedals so I can attest there is some sort of magic in the 90's Made in England Marshall pedals.

A video like this about the new amp sim distortions like the 5151, the Friedman BE-OD, and the mesa distortions would be sweet

6:55 the blue Strat is alive!!

thanks guys, really enjoyed that 3 parter. Les Paul > Treble Booster > Vox, that's the tone for me. just rude & raw. bit of a shame we didn't get to hear enough of the Les Paul > RAT > Marshall sound.... but there's only so many minutes you can spend on each combination. and thankyou for confirming yet again why I hate Strats! they sound weak for everything except Hank Marvin material. cheers guys

9:27 i.e. JHS Andy Timmons, JHS Angry Charlie, JHS Charlie Brown, Wilson Effects Sparkle Blue..

Ultimate fuzz shootout!!

Distortion generally changes the sound curve to a flat wave. Overdrive is a compression but the the wave remains in a curve.

IMO The DS-1 sounds good here because the amp is set to sound good with it. Actually without the pedal the sound is super muffled, there’s a massive cut in the treble frequencies.

That is the BEST Ds1 I've ever heard

@alwsfaction

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Goodwin beside joe satriani and steve vai tone ;-)

can you guys make a video on the Kemper?

Mick, what are you waiting for? Been waiting three episodes now for you to pick up that les paul.

The Govnor hands down. WOW. Anyone know of a good clone of it since I figure it's hard to get one today?

@SalisburySimon

8 жыл бұрын

+James Russo I think you can still get the modern versions - I found three on ebay today for about £50

@JamesRussoMillas

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah but the modern versions are never as good haha

@SalisburySimon

8 жыл бұрын

Might well be true :-)

@d2vmusic

8 жыл бұрын

+Salisbury Simon There's a Mk1 for sale in London on Gumtree at the moment, £50. Search Marshall Guv'nor Gumtree.

@miguelpessanha

8 жыл бұрын

+James Russo I can build you one!

Hey! Thanks for a very valuable run-through. Please add some info on the other stuff you used like speakers, delays, pedal orders on the board, etc. Cheers!

11:35 was awesome! I knew you had it in you, Dan! ;-) Tele->Guv'nor->AC30 in my book.

Everyone loves these boutique pedals angry Charlie, suhr riot, crunchbox but don't bother trying the one who inspired them all, the guvnor. The guvnor doesn't have that much bass but if you paired it with the right amp you will get a great crunch. These old marshall pedals are the most underrated pedals (until Mayer sticked the BB on his board), and I wonder how on earth did they get discontinued especially for their low price. I love how people actually believe that when they buy boutique pedals they are paying for premium expensive components. You are just paying for slightly modified tweaked clones of amazing little circuits such as the BB ( king of tone) or the guvnor.

FROM 1996 TO ABOUT 2009 GAZZA USED A DSL AND TUBESCREAMER.

"idiotbucker" XD

@jamespitoola1954

8 жыл бұрын

Leave my emg 81 alone! It's suffered enough.

@777Yoni

8 жыл бұрын

That cracked me up as well.

@JerodimusPrime

8 жыл бұрын

I want an Idiotbucker on the bridge :D

@DubsMood

7 жыл бұрын

standard idiotbucker at the neck and a crazy idiotbucker at the bridge

@DMSProduktions

6 жыл бұрын

An 'idiotbucker' is not an active.

The Rat overdrive is dimed out, but the OCD's volume is way low. Is that a valid comparison? Shouldn't the settings be close to the same on each overdrive?

@frankie28web

8 жыл бұрын

It's a valid comparison. They just dimed the RATs volume, cause it's not as loud as the OCD...

@VintageRadius

5 жыл бұрын

My OCD sounds better to me with the volume knob higher than they had it and the gain lower.

Satriani used a DS-1 through a Marshall until he started using Peavey. His tone was consistently great at every show I went to.

@chrisegg7936

5 жыл бұрын

MrSadriabi Steve Vai has used a DS-1 forever, which i’d bet is where Satriani got inspiration

the idiotbucker joke made me laugh so f@#$% hard

Great show(s) I wish you would have played the DS1 through the Fender. Many of us have Fenders and other 6L6 amps and we need help to get a better distortion sound

great! I wish you compared the OCD (in a medium gain setting) with the King Of Tone. I love the OCD, how fast the attack is, it's dynamic, and how it cleans up so well with the volume knob. How comparable is the OCD and the KOT in these characteristics? Thanks!! :)

@grahamkelly8299

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good question, version 1.7 to!!and I'd like to hear a prince and ocd combo as when they are stacked you prob wouldn't want both sides of the king on at same time.

If You wanna good sound Buy Left and Right Wet - Fender Amp x 2 Center Dry - Marshall boom good sound come up

Great job, all three installments! Thanks very much for your scholarship. Questions: the Crowther Hotcake... Also a classic. In your opinions, how and where would this sit within the spectrum that you've covered? And how well does it stack with others, such as your choices from the 12 you covered (and which)? Thx in advance for any further insights... Cheers.

I dont get why they set the level so high and the gain so low on the DS-1. It sounded to me like they got a mushy sounding overdrive from the amp breaking up, instead of the nice " in your face" distortion the DS-1 is capable of. Maybe their own taste towards overdriven sounds got the better of them.

I want that backline... all of it! :D

Just Discovered Your Show and Love it. Question: Why use pedal when can get great overdrivin sound from tube amp? I'm trying to choose amps, between 1 channel and using pedals or 2 channel to get great tube overdrive. advise or suggestions?

@MrBingping

8 жыл бұрын

Well I answer with an example. I run two amps; a 65 twin reverb reissue, and a 59 bassman ltd. No matter what pedal I get, my twin will never sound like my bassman when it's cranked. And no matter what settings I use on the bassman, it will never sound like my twin with pedals. There are certain sounds that can only be nailed by driving an amp, and others than can only be nailed with the use of pedals. There isn't an amp that sounds like a blackface fender with a Tubescreamer in front of it.

@MrBingping

8 жыл бұрын

Obviously there are amp emulating pedals, which if you want a plexi tone it would make more sense to buy a plexi than to buy a fender and a plexi style pedal. But what if you want multiple amp tones? Or cleans of one amp and different drive? I have a rothwell hellbender (plexi in a box style pedal) that I use in front of my twin. Does it sound exactly like a plexi? No, but it sounds damn close and I can go from smooth bb-king cleans to jimmy page overdrive. Much more cost effective than buying both a $1500 twin and a $3000 plexi.

the DS-1 tone rolled back gave more bass than it should've

Guv,nor starts at 9:28

What year is that DS-1 that's what I want to know. That thing sounds amazing. I play the blues, and I love the sound of my Mojo Hand FX Rook and Mad Professor Simble Overdrive, but sometimes I just want that rock 'n' roll tone and I think the DS-1 is what I'm looking for.

Love it! those guys really know

The Edge plays a lot of the best rock tones using Les Paul and AC30's, just listen to the Solo of Love is Blindness Live.

so how does The Guv'nor mk2 compare to the classic one? I'm tempted to go for the GV2, it's really cheap compared to boutique offerings.

The ES-Govnor-Marshall takes the cake for me. I'm just scratching my head wondering how I can get that tone without a JTM45 half stack. Wampler Plexi-drive? Pinnacle? I've been looking at amps on and off for years, have been leaning towards used EL84amps- Vox Handwired15 /Morgan AC20 or Dual 20/Matchless Spitfire/Dr. Z Maz 38sr/Valvetech Hayseed30. .. trying to keep it under 2k. Could I get that sound out of an EL84 amp with the right pedal? It's such a great sound. I've had a Gibson SG Special for 15 years, and have been playing through junk or a friend's amp forever, was never the guitar player in the bands. .but I really want to finally get my own magic maker. Definitely an EL84 or EL34 type amp. I love a beautiful singing bloomy clean, and I don't feel like I get that through a Fender or 6L6/6V6 style (though they're GREAT in their own right).

Love you guys and the gigrig yt channel too. Quick question. You were in jtm's low imput channel and what were knobs set to. Great cleans. I have 78 JMP and 86 JCM 800. Thanks!

Really great video! Can't help but notice there's quite a difference in gain settings between the pedals, for example the Guvnor seems to be cranked while the Rat is somewhere at 11 o clock. Any reason for this?

I am beginning to understand why I have been chasing tone for so long. So many variables.

Is that a modified AC30? It sounds nice, so different from the current C2 models.

Did you say that the distortion pot was low & that the level pot was cranked on the DS-1 at 4:40? Are dials opposite in England, kinda like their roadways, ? lol

Fender single-coils, Gibson Humbuckers but not a single P-90!!! Still a great set of videos though.

I just want the 'idiotbucker' :-)

I'll say this about this whole series... a bad workman blames his tools...

@bensnived5875

8 жыл бұрын

hehe

@TheDunateen77

8 жыл бұрын

too right

@chrisegg7936

5 жыл бұрын

stratorarious i think this a lot when it comes to stuff like the ds1 or tubescreamer. So many players want them to be some catch-all overdrive/distortion boxes that work in all situations and that’s simply not the way to use them. They’re great at what they do, as long as that’s a sound you want.

Clint Eastwood said "Nobody... I mean nobody puts catsup on a hot dog" That said... more people are gonna do that than run their ES335 into their AC30 - via a RAT pedal! ha-ha Kidding around - great info and fun as always guys!!

I do love these, but it would also be great to see these devices demonstrated through an average guitar and an average combo amp, rather than the more high-end stuff. Of maybe I'm just cheap...

I am going to design an underdrive pedal.

1. Guvnor (Humbuckers) 2. OCD 3. Ds1 (surprisingly good, that model is special) 4. Rat (very unpleasant to hear)

Jonny greenwood uses his lp with a vox

@dannyblau3850

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, his clean tone is the vox, but his dirty tone has basically always been a solid state fender 85 watt red knob amp with a marshall shredmaster pedal (from the same era line as the guv'nor). Crazy to think that all this time his dirty tone has been a cheap solid state amp with a marshall od pedal.

I, too, just bought a Guv'nor... Next up: The Dude and JHS @.

Ultimate video guy's thx

Is it wrong that I liked the DS-1 the most?

@GiordanDrago

8 жыл бұрын

+Chrismayo1981 Not at all! It actually sounded great!

@luca9735

8 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. It sounded IMMENSE. But even the other three didn't sound bad

@voxpathfinder15r

8 жыл бұрын

+Chrismayo1981 Not at all, the originally made DS-1 was a great sounding pedal - the basic topology of the pedal has not changed throughout the years - they just substituted cheaper capacitors and other stuff that makes it sound shrill. I got mine modded by a local pedal maker to bring it back to more original circuitry as well as a couple of changes/mods and it sounds really immense! The MXR '78 Custom badass distortion is a DS-1 circuit with better components from the factory - so that's another option. Heck even the Vox Satchurator is a DS-1 circuit but voiced really high end and built kind of shitty.

@Chrismayo1981

8 жыл бұрын

+VoxPathfinder15R I actually ran my ds-1 with the tone down all the way and the gain at 9 o'clock on my board with my les Paul at practice this week and it was awesome. I got mine in 95 and never liked it til now. Lol. 20 years and it's on my board. Who knew.

@voxpathfinder15r

8 жыл бұрын

Chrismayo1981 That's great, goes to show you don't need boutique pedals to get the job done. You also have to realize is that how your pedal will sound depends upon how your amp is voiced, how your guitar is voiced, the dynamics of your playing, etc. So a stock DS-1 can sound really really bad for most setups, and then you come across a certain combo and it just pops! For my setup the tone turned down all the way makes my little vox combo sound like it has a blanket over the thing. I have a video on my channel where I kick in my modded DS-1, it's the video called 'test'. Similar to your setup the gain is set like at 9 o'clock, but the tone I think was somehwere around 10:30. But the tone stack was modified so it bahaves differently and the frequency response was opened way up. Another trick is that I've run the stock ds-1 pedal in conjuction with an MXR 10 band eq set up with midrange hump and it totally got a great tone. Trick is to start with an amp that has a healthy mid-range to begin with.

Yay I have the ds-1