It would be great to see a video demonstrating the rotation and DPS of each class.

@SomeHarryGuy

14 күн бұрын

Yeah especially people just coming back

@Xeando

14 күн бұрын

THIS, it's incredibly hard to find videos of rotations of a lot of classes, I want to see how they play and see if I would find that fun

Thanks for this.. I haven't had time to level yet because of work, so this helps me alot to pick a class for phase 4

@xxkyky

14 күн бұрын

Nice! The xp bonus is super nice for leveling up! You’ll enjoy the process.

What about tank ranking?

So far, all the mobs/boss who have immunity to certain element (like Fire elemental being immune to fire damage) are still immune in SoD. So, is it fair to assume that Molten Core won't be any different ?

you're a real one for staying on SOD

Nothing for Gladiator spec?

has someone a leveling sheet for dungeon grinding?

I would've loved to hear your opinion on gladiator stance for warrior dps!

Saw ele had almost no logs on PTR. Also apprently rolling thunder dmg wasnt working according to somone on the discord. Hoping they end up being more in the middle of the pack ST while still hailing as the Trash Kings.

There really isn't "combat" and "assassination" for rogues. The combat spec you are referring to actually takes more points in assassination than combat. Both are similar with talent points, with small exceptions, it's just saber slash/mutilate. Mutilate carnage build is currently the front runner for rogue specs, beating Saber slash by 220 on simulators.

@OMGiTzSpAnKy

14 күн бұрын

It's like 100 DPS difference between saber and mutilate in raid gear. Using the fel striker in the comparison is a bit wrong imo when the thing only has a 1% drop chance and a vast majority of mutilate rogues will literally never see that dagger drop. Mutilate carnage perditions blade is 4155 DPS, saber slash brutality blade is 4051 DPS.

@hellexus4058

14 күн бұрын

@@OMGiTzSpAnKy The simulator works correctly for felstriker. Factoring in drop chance vs dps is ridiculous. Technically you have unlimited runs at felstriker per week, regardless of 2% drop chance. One try per week on Perdition's. 4255 Mutilate Carnage. Also, thanks for basically saying mutilate is better, just written differently.

@samsonhaze6595

13 күн бұрын

Man… on the one hand I love seeing sword spec visible again, imo I will always favor combat rogue’s style in solo/pve, plus I just think swords look way cooler, and some of the talents in the combat tree are really fun to pop all at once and have 15 seconds of virtually invulnerability from physical attacks, hitting two targets at once, with massive energy gains from adrenaline rush… but my understanding is that what I think of as “combat” spec no longer exists/that they’ve just made mutilate and it’s synergy’s extremely OP thanks to the rune system letting you abuse things like treating the “opportunity” talent as if it’s contributing to dps, even if you’re just standing face to face with the enemy and spamming mutilate. That and the synergies with envenom are just ridiculous, it doesn’t even feel like “classic” if I’m playing a “combat rogue” who can’t even spec deep enough into the tree to get what were once staples like weapon mastery, etc. which again have been trivialized by runes… allowing any race/spec to get that +5 weapon skill with whatever the hell they want 🤷‍♂️

@hellexus4058

13 күн бұрын

@@samsonhaze6595 I agree, I wish they implemented a more physical focused build. Something that wasn't reliant on poisons, maybe a stacking buff for physical dmg when using eviscerate. Anything lol

The thing with Ret is, that even the seasoned ret palas aren't even sure which specc is the best currently. So if you would share please how you tested it? There is no fast 2h available on PTR e.g.

@browniesbytes305

13 күн бұрын

There are some logs with sulthraze up; seem like general consensus is fast for consistent comparable damage and slow/twisting for higher ceiling lower floor. (Seal of Casino) Slow twist has to has to have wind fury though it’s like 40% of the damage, and the mongoose bite dodge reduction if stackable will be very important for Ret. ST 3p is also vgood for twisting.

Don't suppose you could get out some info on tanks could you?

Any info or thoughts on Glad stance warrior?

@BungoLungo

13 күн бұрын

ive currently been looking into that since its something completely different from Arms, havent done any major testing but ive done a couple runs in dgs comparing what i know about arms to glad stance. The rune comp im using is (Shield Mastery), (Blood Frenzy) still conflicted about which one to pick after the change for chest runes, (Devastate), (Focused Rage), (Consumed by Rage) meh with Blood Frenzy better with Raging Blow, and finally (Rampage) im switching to Wrecking Crew when i lvl past 50. Just throwing out a starting point i really have no clue if it works as well as i think or not but hope someone can use this to further inprove on it. I do like the ability to sunder as main dmg and having an extra interupt as well as shield wall for more defensives but idk maybe they suck maybe its cool

I think Ele is going to blast on larger packs. Flame shock can be applied to multiple targets and they trigger instant LB and CL.

@vilgus7484

14 күн бұрын

We are the trash kings. Bottom of ST top of Overall lol

Feels good having mained feral for my guild raid group since phase 1, its been a long and painful journey but it all paid off with the hand of rag prio Im getting.(Itll never drop)

@ClearMind777

14 күн бұрын

We went all of 2019 classic never seeing the Eye. I hope SoD boosts the drop rates a bit.

Is that fire mage dmg accounting for the reduced dmg bosses will take in MC? I fear something similar to what happened to rogues and warriors in Gnomer is coming for them, hopefully not. I was maining rogue in p2 and it sucked.

@hotlikesauce

14 күн бұрын

there’s 3 classes getting a fire based rune in p4, it wouldn’t make sense having them gimped right out the gate, ya know? besides, a few dev interviews ago, the red headed chick said they “learned” from their Gnomer debacle

@walterruiz2130

14 күн бұрын

@hotlikesauce thats why i said hopefully not. If they ignore all that, I'd be happy. Just pointed that out cus i dont think testwork have any fire resistance, and if i remember correctly, they did say they learned from gnomer but that some of the dmg reduction would still exist.

Hey, as a Warrior, would you recommend Fury for leveling?

@emilwetterlindhofgard5182

14 күн бұрын

I would not. Go arms and get precise timing and taste for blood runes asap.

@shanetaylor5577

14 күн бұрын

Fully agree with this guy. Although Arms is gutted for raiding, it's still preferred for open world leveling. Precise Timing, Taste for Blood, Frenzied Assault and Victory Rush are must-haves.

Fire mage here, just hit 50 yesterday. Hyped for phase 4. :)

@hammerdancegaming

14 күн бұрын

@@Atomos89 hell yea!! It’s gonna be a blast!

@hacklbarry5365

14 күн бұрын

You wont find any raid without logs 😂 enjoy

@Atomos89

14 күн бұрын

@@hacklbarry5365 I have logs. Rerolled mage

Ret pala icon , you really dared ahahahah

Glad warr?

No melee that can also heal should be above warrior in DPS. Blizzard is clueless

Are we even going to be able to use fire spells in MC?

@hammerdancegaming

15 күн бұрын

Hasn’t been any clarification on it yet. I’m assuming so, otherwise fire mage and warlock are in the gutter lol

@aces8230

14 күн бұрын

Warlock and shaman tanks gonna be gutter too

@hammerdancegaming

14 күн бұрын

@@aces8230 yup

With ret paladin you need to take in to consideration that testwork is undead. And that exo has 100% crit on undead.

@arch4916

15 күн бұрын

Devs have no ideia what they doing with retri since start of SoD

@hotlikesauce

14 күн бұрын

something to look forward to in Naxx :)

Everyone really underestimating fury warriors out here. Personally I'm running glad stance and it's going to be a huge surprise when you see us pulling 3.5-4k dps. clap them cheeks

@hammerdancegaming

13 күн бұрын

@@chrisliftstv I 100% agree that they will be close or even top dps once in full bis. But other classes are doing almost that amount of dps right now like rogues and mages.

They wont nerf Enhancer will they

@Gipsydanger03

14 күн бұрын

they already did

Glad I rolled Arms Warrior since day 1……

Elemental shaman got gutted

Aff is simming better than destro atm.

Do a PVP tier list next

The info on hunter spec is really off. BM should be in the C tier vineslty, its not even viable. Ranged hunter and weaving hunter are sim 4-4.8k in MC which is insane, S tier and its survuval. Pure MM falls way behind Survival ranged too

Feels bad... Arcane mages aren't dps though now we are healers. So figure that out

Warriors really paying in SOD for being so good in real classic...

The reason Shadow priest didn’t scale that well in original classic is that crit was a dead stat, now it’s beneficial.

@frederikvanhees4701

14 күн бұрын

No lol, spell coefficent being low on mind flay and mind blast. Channeled and fast spells scale horrible

@joelswatten9611

14 күн бұрын

@@frederikvanhees4701 Twisted faith increases damage of both those spells by 50%

@hotlikesauce

14 күн бұрын

spriest will be like top 5 for two weeks, then starts to get outscaled.. even by tanks.

@voxdiary

14 күн бұрын

​@@frederikvanhees4701yeah that one and high mana cost and the crit wad 100percent instead for 150

"im a rogue main now so im gonna say rogue specs are #1"

@hammerdancegaming

15 күн бұрын

I’m still a warrior main, but rogues are undoubtedly too melee dps at the beginning of this phase.

@queenmarsia

15 күн бұрын

@@hammerdancegaming i hope things work out for warriors, it isnt the same when u arent playing as one!

@hammerdancegaming

15 күн бұрын

@@queenmarsia me too! I do plan on playing it regardless of what happens. I just most likely will start rogue at the beginning to get the most enjoyment and content out of the blackrock event. My warrior will be 60 before BWL comes out for sure!

Change Warriors Ony lite buff to party only. Then theyre might bring us to raid mwahaha

I will Love to beat all These "A" Tier casters. Will beat all them purple parsers by Big Numbers.

you are absolutely insane if you think fury is b tier

@hammerdancegaming

12 күн бұрын

At the start it will be. And after good weps and gear it will 100% be moved to S

maaaaaan im over destruction. Fat L.