Clarifications: 1. While we strongly condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine, TDK Podcast aims to encourage audiences to consider the many contributing factors leading up to the war, and think critically regarding how mainstream and social media portrays the conflict. The information presented is based on our personal research and understanding of the situation, and we apologise for any misinformation presented. We urge viewers to do their own research into the topic to form their own opinions as many nuances and details are easily lost in our condensed version of events. 2. The episode has 2 mistaken mentions of Georgia being a part of NATO (6:10 & 14:04). Georgia had joined the NATO-run Partnership for Peace in 1994, seeked closer ties since 2003, and was declared an "aspirant country" in 2011, but has yet to make a NATO accession due to various requirements, and complications with Russian forces. However, Georgia remains one of the alliance's closest partners, participating in drills and missions with NATO countries. 3. With regards to the points made at 34:40 of the video, Kirsten Han has reached out to provide clarifications. The information cited in the video was from this source: www.straitstimes.com/singapore/shanmugam-on-thum-ping-tjins-meeting-with-mahathir-whole-conduct-is-a-little-sad-and-a-bit Kirsten's account of the visit written on the day of their meeting: kirstenhan.com/blog/2018/8/30/80-minutes-with-dr-m Kirsten's response to the source article (ST) above: kirstenhan.com/blog/2018/9/1/a-response-to-mr-seah-kian-pengs-allegations

@grail2002

2 жыл бұрын

Good that you acknowledged Mr Seah's grave error here. We shouldn't spread this falsehood any further than it already has been spread.

@malita354

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure Russia cannot hack any singapore given how mighty the republic is. We have CECA, russia does not. Yeah! We win!!🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬

@fluritho3486

2 жыл бұрын

Hiding the threat of Azov Battalion and ignoring the rising fascism within Ukraine army and citizen, 4 of you are really bull shitting and what a waste of time listening to you guys and not even a single touch on Azov Battalion. Shame on you.

@malita354

2 жыл бұрын

Where got Time?

I'm Ukrainian in Singapore, and believe me once you see everything you love and all your memories get destroyed you will not be doubting whether you are willing to die for your country. When your family says goodbye to you before going to sleep just in case they will not wake up, you just don't doubt anymore.

@ke5196

2 жыл бұрын

I also wish people would see Ukraine in all of this, and not only talk of NATO and Russia relations. Ukraine is a large state with It's own history of relations with Russia and NATO in all of this is mostly formal reason.

@worriesinthedance

2 жыл бұрын

@@ke5196 i am sorry to hear this is happening however i would also like to know if historically Ukraine and Russia have had very sour relations? from what i have read, it seems to have been mostly cordial(also again my knowledge can be considered skimpy). I would like to hear from someone who is actually from there?

@ke5196

2 жыл бұрын

@@worriesinthedance thank you! In fact, not exactly cordial. Since even when part of Ukraine was under Russian empire till Soviet Union times Ukrainian language and culture were legally prohibited . There is no writer in history of Ukraine who wouldn't be persecuted or killed for their activity. The Ukrainian statehood was fought against and denied obviously. Nevertheless, the scariest and darkest moments in history were definitely the Stalinist repression and holodomor (man made famine) which took tens of millions of innocent lives. Nevertheless, after Ukraine gained its independence the imperialist narrative towards Ukraine prevailed. As Ukrainians are bilungual, Russia and Ukraine cultural ties and exchange were strong. Even though politically Russia was quite a bully. Most people tried to maintain normal relations with Russians. Until of course the 2014 revolution which was met hostile not only by Russian governments but majority of population. You can see Winter on Fire on Netflix. The Kremlin supported warlords occupied the East of sovereign state, while Crimea was annexed. Even then the cultural ties remained to some point. Until now, when it's the end Even for cultural ans human ties, for Ukrianians see very limited support of Russian people.sl so roughly that's how it is

@sheepshagger

2 жыл бұрын

@@ke5196 i think you just made Winter on Fire spike in viewership after this. Would it also be fair to say that the only way that Ukraine gained independence was a result of people CHOOSING TO FIGHT for their country and not people who CHOSE NOT TO FIGHT?

@ke5196

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheepshagger thank you for taking interest. You're observant, freedom is our religion and it's never to be taken for granted, one reason out of respect for who did it before us. We just want to work hard on our land, peacefully, in harmony with our neighbours and ourselves, so no one denies us our culture and language, without lies without cynicism. That's it, that's our victory. This war made us united more than ever, 40 mln people like one organism, every lost life is a personal tragedy. Therefore, there is no more choice to fight or not to fight. Either you fight, or you cease.

Jon-Paul, did you know that during the Japanese Occupation, Japanese soldiers would randomly snatch a baby out of their mother's arms, throw it up into the air, and pierce it with their rifle's bayonets? And at roadblocks, when they inspect your papers, they will feel the palms of your hands and if your skin is smooth or if you appear too scholarly or clean-cut, you'd be taken away for "enhanced" questioning on suspicion that you're part of the resistance movement? Women are also randomly captured and thrown into the many comfort houses to serve their soldiers. You're willing to live under occupation anytime? You want to take the chance of your mother or sister being made to serve as comfort women? You want to be taken away for "enhanced questioning" simply because a soldier doesn't like how you look, or how you salute him on the street? You have no idea, and no appreciation of the safety and security you now live under. You're so willing to give it up in a heartbeat. If war ever comes to Singapore, I don't fight for my country. I fight for my family and my love ones. If I surrender, I give up control of their fate. So long as I'm able to fight, I can still control whether the invaders can get to my family and love ones. I can still protect them to a certain degree. It's better than no protection that surrendering offers.

@Ranger629

2 жыл бұрын

Then the question would be, what good would it do for the country if you're dead. That's 1 less person for a revolution. Your death or sacrifice is not going to stop a baby from getting pierced or a person getting beheaded if your death do not come into fruition of a successful defense against the enemy. Sometimes it's not about "Garang" or "protecting" it's called planning for the future. What's good to throw your life away in a losing battle than to just surrender and fight another day.

@sek898

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ranger629 fight another day is different from "i dont care who is in charge" or "i will choose occupation anytime"

@dennisl1303

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is if everyone think like this then might as well just roll out the red carpet and let them occupy. What makes you the exception if everyone else sacrifice? We can only ever have an impact if everyone has the same end goal. An army is only as good as its weakest link. Yes we probably won't win against a strong adversary. Ukraine probably didn't believe it will win against Russia either theoretically. But I rather do something about it and maybe have a chance of a better outcome than let other people trample over my livelihood.

@samuelCWM

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ranger629I don't think it's that simple, once an occupation starts the chances of turning the tide to "fight another day" severely decreases. Even in WW2, Singapore didn't manage to do much to fight back once the Japanese were in power, it was pretty much a waiting game at that point to see if the allied forces would overcome the axis. And like they said in the video, the first days of war are crucial as foreign aid has yet to pour in. Once the enemy has penetrated far enough, there's little to nothing we can do on our own to push them back out. And once they are in power, the amount of damage they are able to do tenfolds.

@Larmzdheephillip

2 жыл бұрын

You're prolly some PES E soldier

Sorry guys, was mistaken! It was Georgia expressing interest in joining NATO that angered Russia, but hadn’t joined officially!

I'm a 93 person and to hear john say he prefer occupation i got very sad and worried. Can we get an episode with a occupation survivor if there are any to discuss this with john. I think we need to have that perspective to conclude which is better

@xxDxxism

2 жыл бұрын

we are bound to lose might as well give up

@sheepshagger

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxDxxism bro u should join that discussion for that episode. do u think singapore would be able to achieve independence today if our forefathers didn't fight for it? if everyone adopted GIVE UP, do you realistically think Singapore would be what it is today?

28:22- Jon Paul does not care who is in charge- maybe he is assuming life is the same under occupation. Did he read about the shooting of young able Singapore men by the Japanese during WW2? How about the Prisoners of war who were forced to build a railway between Thailand and Myanmar? He does not care about who is in charge because it has always been PAP in charge and life generally is good, you can go jog at 3am and still come back safe and sound. Now Jon Paul, if the next one in charge is going to make you build a railway between Thailand and Myanmar- you will still be alive (to build the railway) but don't expect to be paid because you have surrendered without fighting and is now "occupied". Would you still choose occupation? You might die building the railway though- read the history.

I thought the ustaz will be there for this episode!

@randallwong4382

2 жыл бұрын

LOL SAME

@hilmisafi8197

2 жыл бұрын

For real tho thought he would be in this vid

If you’re looking for practical ways to help and support our Ukrainian friends, here's an extensive list we've compiled with the help of many: linktr.ee/SGwithUkraine You can also share this list with others to spread awareness and ways to lend a hand!

@MJLStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Daily Ketchups, do watch Alex Nalvany's breakdown of how Putin amassed so much wealth. kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6R10NminLDUk6w.html And also the true numbers for Russian citizen hating Putin have shot up due to Russian Rubbles dropping to trash. Citizens who saved money in Russian Banks are suffering big time.

That's right, its easy to choose occupation because you've never gone through it.

@slayergut

2 жыл бұрын

It’s easy to choose death also, you’ve never experienced it.

@GhostZ369

2 жыл бұрын

@@slayergut i think the misconception here is that the term 'dying for your country' is taken in the literally sense. No one in their right mind would send off their own people to die. What is really asked of is to fight for your country, your home and your family, and in fighting you might die. Occupation is never a pleasant experience for any country that has gone through it and it would be just ignorance to assume it wouldn't mean suffering like what our ancestors have gone through back during the Japanese occupation. It is the very reason why we study this in our history classes.

Georgia is not a member of NATO btw

I don't usually make comments of video, but i think JP's position on dying for Singapore prompts me to say something. First of all, the assumption is that taking up arms to defend equates to dying in battle. The likelihood is high, but not all the time. Next, invading forces invade always have an objective in mind. It could be as mild as "replacing" PAP government. If you really don't mind that, then of course surrendering is fine. Looking at Ukraine, it shows that people are in support of the government, if not the Ukraine military and its ordinary people would have let the Russian military pass through the country and straight to the Presidential palace to topple the current government. The people there are fighting for what they believe to be preserving their identity and as well as their democracy. To them, it's worth the sacrifice such that their next-generation could thrive.

Dan just summarized secondary school cold war history in 5 mins

Very easy to think how does the war would not affect S'poreans. But with the piling of sanctions againsd Russia, what is the shift of supplies that would become demand? Certain prices will rise for sure,internationally.

Hats off to you guys for doing all the homework behind how we got to today's crisis. Thank you!

Instead of being asked 'Would you die for your country?', we should be asked 'Would you protect your loved ones?'.

@slayergut

2 жыл бұрын

Does evacuating with them count as protecting my loved ones? Or do you mean staying and fight but endanger my loved ones by keeping them in a warzone? Or letting them evacuate to another country without my protection while I stay and fight?

@BBowiec

2 жыл бұрын

interesting change of words turns the narrative around, well place Jason.

I probably pee myself and poop my pants if I have to fight but all it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

@xxDxxism

2 жыл бұрын

and still lose

Agreed on the avenues to donate part!

One context that convinces me why i will fight for Singapore is about how close the British were to defeating the Japanese in Singapore. Had the people of Singapore had the chance to defend our island more, history would have completely changed.

@rogerfaint499

Жыл бұрын

How close were the British in defeating the Japanese in Singapore? 120,000 British soldiers defending Singapore surrendered to the 80,000 Japanese soldiers that had marched through the Malayan jungles from Burma, and without firing a single bullet! That was how much you could trust the British defenders.

Singapore has sanctions. Ask any bank in Singapore if you can conduct transactions with any US sanctioned entities through them.

Honestly, most men who have completed their NS time, they will fight for their country mainly because it will not be for the country, but for the family who are living in the country

I’m not sure if Jon can be said to be a Singaporean if he is enjoying all the benefits of it..like healthcare/CPF/education..only to say that he sees no point in national identity and keeps undermining the only SAF we have to deter us from aggressors..

@CapDingo1975

2 жыл бұрын

At least he has the guts to say what many people think but dare not say. I respect him for having the guts to do that.

@ngmeesua

2 жыл бұрын

@@CapDingo1975 Pardon me. what do the “many people” think? That many people despise being citizen? If so, I guess if they are so unhappy about it then maybe they can consider a better place to live in. After all who’s to stop you from feeling the way you feel.. and who is to stop you from saying what u want to say..unless you yourself know that what you are about to say is flawed and naive.

@xxDxxism

2 жыл бұрын

Ask yourself...do you really think SAF can defend against other countries?

@ngmeesua

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxDxxism I do especially if we have less of people like you who clearly have no desire to defend your home. Also, I can't seem to find a reason to doubt so, maybe you can share on that.

@MylesJin

2 жыл бұрын

@@xxDxxism we actually do, our SAF Arsenal is probably one of the toughest in Asia. With superior air force.

The concept of Nationhood is the shared values, culture, and beliefs. While Jon Paul's idea to just abolish nationhood so we become one human race is a virtuous one, I feel that it is impossible to achieve. Hence there is still a need to have nationhood to safeguard what we (Singapore) value.

As a Singaporean citizen, this war may not be as concerning like what she mentioned. But as a NSmen, a soldier, a war breaking out between two civilized countries, makes Singaporean men realized that world war in this time and era is no a longer a myth and there's maybe a chance in near future for us to be call-up into military standby and saying goodbye to our wives, children and parents to serve the country. As someone who never serves national service before will never understand how this feels...

@1245 Extremely impressed with the speech! He passed his history with flying colours to be able to analyse and determine who is the "bad" guy. Amazing

FYI, while mainstream media covered the Russia/Ukraine conflict excessively (from the Western viewpoint), during the same period (3 November 2020 to 3 November 2022), the Tigray war was being fought in Ethiopia. Ethiopian & Eritrean forces took part in the conflict in the Tigray region of Ethiopia. The death toll is estimated to be around 500,000 - 600,000, making it the worst conflict of the 21st century. Yet it was almost never covered by mainstream media 🙄

i think those who just attribute things to power or ego are just concluding things shallowly. the issue at its core is about economic survival and longevity, if u think about it. nobody just does such things just for ego boosts or to save their face. whether it’s US, Russia, etc.

Good job in this topic... guys

It is true that Russia received various assurances that nato would not expand-but it also willingly acquiesced when nato changed its stance. In 1997-even as the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland were being invited to join the alliance-Russia and nato signed a “founding act” in which Russia accepted nato enlargement. In exchange, nato ruled out the “permanent” deployment of “substantial combat forces” in eastern Europe or the placement of nuclear weapons there, a constraint it observes to this day.

@NobodyUR

2 жыл бұрын

It is also true that Russia said they would not invade Ukraine 🤷‍♂️ Can we take any corrupt government at their word?

i think this conflict is very complicated. this episode and the information within talks about many different things such as some of its origins, media perspective, retaliatory efforts (sanctions etc), and general sentiments of singaporeans towards it. i think what could be done better would be to break the conflict into its different bits, and invite expert guests on the show to talk about some of the things. problem is these would be individuals whom do not usually have the experience of going on youtube / work restrictions etc. 1. origins of the conflict, to invite 2 guests perhaps, a historian otaku in modern international history (ie cold war. a history teacher at JC level can do this.) and someone who had experience in foreign affairs / exposure to culture or working experience in eastern europe. this episode would easily have 45min-1hr airtime content. 2. what are sanctions, and how do they affect people. invite someone who does regulatory compliance in the financial services industry. you guys can also branch out and talk about things like money laundering, crypto, high profile scams in sg (nickel dude) etc and go full ozark if you want to. this would bring more interest in a traditionally boring space. 3. NS, what NS means for singaporeans, why do we have NS, why is yesterday's NS still relevant today given that the war playbook is completely different from before? invite a regular who has graduated, and also bring a ww2 historian. 4. discuss about the current META for the conflict. we see social media playing such a huge role. why is rl war trash talk so similar to the stereotypical xboxlive CoD style? where do the tech giants fit in all this? do they moderate (LOL)? how to moderate? this conflict will definitely become some kind of case study. just some food for thought for the daily ketchup.

@shucklesors

Жыл бұрын

right. just need to do that only. just invite and then can already. bro... you should try to fold your blanket in the morning and do your own laundry for a week or two. just a start. just "some food for thought for eeky89". content creators do content creation stuff constrained by resource limits that theyre constrained by. think a little bit about what this channel does in general and how they structure their content release process. just a little bit.

The US put missiles in Turkey, not France.

My granduncle's bestfriend was killed during japanese occupation. Yeah you dont get to live like a human in a "occupation"

Defend your country against military invader is not equivalent to die for your country perse. Ther fate of death or alive is not predicated upon your choice upon enemy invasion and subsequent occupation of this island state. On the contrary, surrender and subjugated yourself toward enemy arrival doesn't necessary means you are guaranteed be kept alive.

I will fight for my love ones, but i will not fight indiscriminately for my country. For example, if Sg decides to invade another country, i will not fight.

What is happening in Ukraine is the best example of Total Defence

I will not die alone, will bring some alone with me. If really die, don't die without value.

Singaporeans may not know much about Ukraine-Russia relations so I recommend a documentary on Netflix called “Winter on Fire: Ukraine’s Fight for Freedom”, which explores the 2014 Maidan Revolution that took place in Kyiv. Educating ourselves is extremely important in times like these. #СлаваУкраїні

@johnnyw6467

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend you to watch the video Numuves put out, the coup is funded by US.

I believe many will crack shit jokes like what Johnathan said "if Singapore get invaded I first one to run", but actually deep down, we know we will stay and fight when called upon.

No truly neutral observer is dismissing Putin's claims of security if Ukraine becomes a NATO member, but he did not need to move his troops into Ukraine. He could have just kept them on the Russian of the Ukraine-Russia border. He would not lose face within Russia nor outside of Russia. And if Russia really gets attacked, he can then justifiably invade Ukraine in self-defence. The reaction from the world then would be very different from what it is now. But now, having struck the first blow, for him to climb down from this invasion, to pull his troops back to Russia without any gains, or to fully conquer Ukraine and then have to give it back either because of pressure from the rest of the world or through defeat in a subsequent West-led Ukraine-liberation war, there is no pill that he can realistically swallow.

@kingseiryu929

2 жыл бұрын

Then he will have no choice but to continue on this warpath, being committed to it alrdy

@slayergut

2 жыл бұрын

But if he waited till Ukraine joins NATO before being attacked and then response in self defence, he would not be fighting Ukraine, but all of NATO as well. It’s a lose-lose for him.

@weegeokteo7274

2 жыл бұрын

Played into US trick

@NobodyUR

2 жыл бұрын

@@slayergut or crazy thought. He could have just stayed out of Ukraine all together. Perhaps the Donbass area was a issue because of this inevitable act? If long story short the only reason why Russia is not a bigger geopolitical power is due to the mistake of appointment of Putin. If the if they zagged instead of zigging when Yeltsin stepped down Eastern Europe would be thriving much like the rest of their neighbors that chose to play ball on the world's stage. Arrogance is ultimately they key factor in this entire thing. The all or none approach here was never going to work out and now Russian population is even more isolated to the point it will take multiple generations to recover even after/if they get leadership willing to come to the table. Certainly not impossible look at Germany.

@DerrickNinon

2 жыл бұрын

@@slayergut in this era. Joining a team doesn't mean dieing for the team. Everyone is for their own benefits. There will never be a lose lose situation.

Good and fair perspective on both sides. War is never good but it is important to know why this war started and the history of it. I pray for the citizens of Ukraine and hope the best for them.

Why should Singaporean men die for privileged Singaporean women who have NEVER valued Singaporean men or their NS contributions? Get the SG girls to serve NS or volunteer as nurses during this pandemic before throwing the burden of defense to Singaporean men. Gender equality, no?

where's part 2 of the uztaz

26:50 Jon-Paul, please don't spread mis-information. Get your facts right. The reason why the western powers are sending troops to countries that share a border with western Ukraine is because those countries (Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia) are members of NATO, and those soldiers are there to beef up the defensive capabilities of those NATO members, in case they have to activate Article 5 of the NATO treaty. It is not so that in case Russian forces accidentally kills an American soldier, it gives the US the license to get physically involved in the Ukraine-Russia war. Even without those additional troops, if Russia were to cross over the Ukraine border into any of those NATO countries without their permission, even if no one is harmed, it gives NATO the right to defend their territory and fight Russia. This 3000 troops is specifically sent to Poland. The other members have different numbers of troops sent to them.

@Yami0to0hikari

2 жыл бұрын

The thing here is this though those troops are just a tripwire. To phrase it bluntly they are just send there to die to buy time for other countries to mobilise in defence of nato. I do agree though they are not sent there to generate cause belli for involvement into the ukraine war

cover MP ang wei nang's suggestion on uni time stamps!

@Jack-hy2ki

2 жыл бұрын

He had clarified what he really meant. After reading his clarification I think he is just being realistic to current era but he phrased it wrongly.

i see a lot of comments about how japanese occupation etc etc, i feel these are different times, even the russian soldiers you see are educated enough to control their selves when faced with a moral issue. I dare say that being under occupation now vs the past would be different. Which is why, I would also put down my arms and accept being occupied. Also need to look at the reason why we being attacked, japanese hated the british and chinese as many of their people suffered the same fate when the chinese defended, therefore they are "angry". Resulting in many things being done immorally behind the scenes. If in russia's case, they want to take over ukraine to stop advancement of nato's strength, would the soldiers really go around doing crazy shit if ukraine had just given up?

@GhostZ369

2 жыл бұрын

"even the russian soldiers you see are educated enough to control their selves when faced with a moral issue". this comment did not age well.

Mostly talking about the Ukraine war, rather than Singapore

Than what is your national army men training for is your army men ready to defend us in a war

Jon paul is an example of how pessimism sounds intelligent.

Can u do about sg and Russia idk it's a war or not he might use nuclear boom to us but we don't know

lets be honest, the true pawns are guards and commando. i was from guards, and the tactics they use really seem like you're a pawn. It's like they make you feel a sense of pride and honor to be in an "elite" unit. for a lot of people, with that pride you will chiong.

I am very scare to dies, I hope Spore can dies for me or rather Spore dies for me so i can live. I am no hero. I admit i am a coward. I will not be surprise that those who talk big now, come the real thing they will be the first one to run road 1000km ahead of me.

Can you do update on this since it is uncovered that US had been funded Ukraine with 30 biolabs and how Ukraine treat those with different color skins.

Wait for Daily Crafts to post, "How to make your house bulletproof with household items!"

WHERES PART 2 WITH THE USTAZZZ

My thoughts is that today, we are all intermingling with people worldwide thanks to the internet. We made friends, rivals, peers, partners, partnerships and so on worldwide. So it is 100% conflicting. Imagine this: You are to go to war thinking is for the country and you realized that the ones you killed were long time friends you made years ago through games or online/offline social gathering. I know its dumb to have gaming as an example, but that's what many of us grew up and learning different people and cultures.

According to Russia they’re not trying to reunite Ukraine at 2:15! They’re simply trying to preserve a buffer zone because they perceive Ukraine joining UN as hostile towards Russian sovereignty. Dan I hope you correct this part.

Love social topics like these more than jack neo’s movie reviews (0 intention for sending hate).

point 2: sought* not seeked.

Bilahari Kausikan will be a great guest to invite onto the show to talk about this topic. He gives really insightful views on these issues, and has an interesting personality that will make the show really entertaining.

great summary of what's going on. +1

Plenty of conspiracy theories this video should have a warning tag. Reading anything and everything that is exciting without deep knowledge is one thing, making videos to m asses is clearly irresponsible.

Think am right hows VJ .You know Moira lindsay ?

just want to say the camera shot at 16:00 suddenly became blurry and i thought i was going down with something omg

The world is a game of chess. And the weak shall fall into the mind game trap.

Warsaw pact was disbanded after the disbandment of ussr. Yet the NATO keep expanding east ? Why

lesgoo

I’m just wondering when China invaded Taiwan, how will Singapore government act?

@dxelson

2 жыл бұрын

What is there to act? Taiwan is not a Sovereign nation unlike Ukraine. Its the continuation of a civil war

@CapDingo1975

2 жыл бұрын

Don't take sides, they say

@twenisix

2 жыл бұрын

Their principles will mutate accordingly

Algoooooo

Always see ppl online willing to die for country, don't see the same during reservist or ippt. Most of y'all can't even run pls. Willing to die then start staying fit.

Respect to Jon Paul for speaking up against the whole narrative about NS. I would die for my country for a legit reason also but at the same time I don’t fully trust these military and political leaders who often play their own games and treat their men like pawns (after having actually served in the saf)

Special Military Operations - To Demiliterize and Denazify!

It's amazing? but also scary, like legit scary... that I talked about the histories of the wars in the 20th century to my friend recently... and then this happened

I understand where JP is coming from with regards to the "will you die for Singapore" question, and I fully concur.

America has a professional army instead of a conscripted one. All American soldiers are 'Regulars' in our lingo. i.e. they are soldiers in US because they chose to fight for US interests.

A good perspective of the war.

Please get legit sources of info instead of the fake news on tiktok

@sethtan3782

2 жыл бұрын

God gave you this one chance to be useful, but you did not post the links.

Also the point at 34:40 about local activists meeting Mahatir and suggesting for him to come and help us is totally false. Yes they met him, but you should get your facts straight about what was said in that 80 minute meeting.

@Jack-hy2ki

2 жыл бұрын

So they meet him to sing KTV or eat satay? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 To sell books? 🤣🤣🤣 1 of the activist who met Dr M said we shouldn't celebrate 9th Aug as National day but celebrate Malaysia National day instead.

@mintsplash

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jack-hy2ki Can you show me where this activist said we shouldn't celebrate National Day on the 9th of August? As far as I know, all he said was happy unofficial independence day to Singaporeans because *gasp* we too were under British rule and were declared independent on the 31st! Just because we celebrate one doesn't mean we can't celebrate another.

@Jack-hy2ki

2 жыл бұрын

@@mintsplash u continue to be delusional and carry on to twist and carry on to believe someone who lied about his credentials. No point talking and explaining to brainwashed like u.

Singapore's stand against Russia in this conflict would have huge percussion to Singapore's companies. Economies wise, Changi Airport Group International is one of the largest foreign airport operator in Russia, Olam is the largest foreign land owner in the Russia far east region, while Food Empire's revenue is significantly exposed to Russia with its MacCoffee product popular in Eastern Europe etc. The stand made in the parliament is implicitly a warming to our neighbors tinkering with the idea of invading Singapore. Lastly, does most people realised that while Ukraine is a larger country geographically relative to Singapore, but Singapore do have approximately triple the air force offensive assets and naval vessels? And on the same line, the military defensive weapons from the West and the will of the people are superiorly more effective in stalling and slowing an entirely overpowering invading Russian force

Here’s my 1cent as a IS professional based in SG working for a US firm. As a preface, I do not support Russia’s invasion, but imo it is understandable. We have to keep in mind that pre-2014 Rus-Ukr had friendly relations. But that ended in 2014 when the US organised a military coup to overthrow and install a pro-US Govt, which is largely what pushed ukr to want to join NATO. Additionally, they have been conducting military drills in the Baltic states

When russia agreed to east west Germany re-merger, they requested once to join NATO. Then USSR basically almost ended already and then Russian leader literally like "eh you say NATO is not a 'against russia' alliance then let us join". NATO called it a dream aka impossible. Then in 2000 in Putin's 1st tour he requested again to join NATO, again rejected. This cemented in Russia political circles that NATO is an 'against Russia' alliance. Ukraine definitely have the sovereign right to choose their alliances. But thats idealism, in an ideal world they can join NATO and EU and Russia can't do a thing. But the reality is no lor, its just like Cuba had every sovereign right to let Russia place missiles on their soil but obviously USA will never let them, then what were they expecting, especially when Russia literally already came out and declared that they will never let Ukraine join NATO/EU with troops amassed at their borders. Due to history, geography and current politics, realistically Ukraine must always be the neutral buffer state, and honestly if they played it right they could've reaped huge benefits by being the land bridge between NATO/EU and Russia. Ukraine chose to stick to idealism and so lets see where it gets them now. About NATO being a defensive alliance. Nato changed it's policy, it's no longer a only defensive alliance that only attacks when attacked, NATO followed and invaded with US everywhere for 'REASONS'. The NATO expansion is factually true. How it expanded, countries joining on their own accord or not doesn't matter, who knows if behind the scene EU/NATO give them good deals to join. The thing that matters is Russia thinks NATO expansion is true, is a threat, and when you think about it they have understandable cause to think that way. But of course war is like beating women, there's plenty of reasons to beat women, you just don't do it, when you do it, no matter for what reason, you are wrong.

@lagofala

2 жыл бұрын

No one has convinced me that any Nato member will want to willingly attack russia when they have 5000 nukes. Nato members don't even want to cough up the cash to play their part for defence. With so many members, it would be near impossible even to get a consensus to invade russia. Also, if Putin's goal was to weaken Nato and demilitarize it's border, what he is doing now basically obtained the opposite effect. Also China has to subsidize it's ally's war. If this is not a strategic blunder, i don't know what is. They can't provide economic security to Ukraine and has a multitude of domestic issues to settle. It's no wonder nations want to leave the russian orbit.

@ck9388

2 жыл бұрын

@@lagofala there is a NATO member called the USA which happened to be the old nemesis of USSR, current Russia and also the defacto leader of NATO who had all the reasons to place missiles and radars in Ukraine just to keep China's 'ally' in check. No one feels good with a knife at the neck. Putin's goal is simply to force Ukraine to be a neutral state becoz Ukraine has written into her constitution to join NATO and EU in 2019

@constantine92

2 жыл бұрын

@@ck9388 .....by putting a knife at Ukraine's neck. Got it.

@lagofala

2 жыл бұрын

@@ck9388 thing is, there's no nukes in Ukraine nor did EU and Nato admit Ukraine. Everything was based on hypotheticals. Again, there's no appetite from Nato members for war anyhow. Everything is in his head. Russia has 5000k nukes on it's own. Biden pulled out of Afghanistan, where is the evidence they want to get into anotber conflict? It just doesn't match the reality.

@gweejiahan9336

2 жыл бұрын

@@lagofala National security concerns will always trump economy concern, also there is a long term economic reason why russia will want to invade ukraine and that is Ukraine recently discovered Oil deposits that can rival Russia. Russia's economy is 4-50% oil exports. Best case is russia cos of all the sanctions and shit going on kenna revolution and putin is like hanged on the streets la. but realistically i think In the end, russia will definitely not take the whole Ukraine, it will end up in some sort of west/east ukraine situation. so that Russia gets the buffer state it wants and control the oil fields in the east of ukraine. Also China and Russia aint so friend friend as you think, they are at best frenemies. The enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of relation only. For many years China was closer to USA then China is to Russia, things dont change so fast in geopolitics. China helped USA to win the cold war against Russia BTW, its why USA recognized PRC as the one China in UN and initiated them into WTO. Anyway China will always put its global interest first, just stay neutral as always, and just make any money they can. IF WW3 broke out even better for them, just stay out of it and when NATO and Russia finish destroying themselves, China has a chance at global hegemony, just like how USA emerged after WW2 as the global hegemony as they entered the war late and no actual fighting minus pearl harbor was done on USA mainland. Putin before invading definitely went to Xi and got Xi's assurance that China won't try funny things on russia southern borders while they invade Ukraine, i think China told Russia in exchange to respect them and delay the invasion to after the winter olympics.

Is it I first

i feel like there's a missing perspective in this war of what actually the Ukrainian wants to do for their country and what they have the right to do as sovereign country, as much as putin is threatened and justify his action of inavading and killing children. they also need to understand that they do not own ukraine.

What JP said is not wrong. Just look at the equity/commodities market, who benefited from this the most and you’ll know who is the true winner.

@vernicelizeify

2 жыл бұрын

agree, with great income inequality the rich people should be fighting in the front line since they benefited the most and have the most to lose. those without any family or are homeless don't bother to fight because they have nothing to fight for anyway

10:27 "It made sense...." ???? Made sense? Even if majority of the residents of the Donbass region are more Russian-ise and Ukraine-ise, that area is still a part of Ukraine's territory. Even though there were separatists fighting Ukraine rule in that region, it's still Ukraine land. Any foreign country moving troops into such an area without prior invitation by the owner-country, is committing an act of war.

@jawbeater

2 жыл бұрын

Donbass was bombed by Ukranian govt 6years ago. Citizens requested Russian govt for assistance which led to citizens in Donbass welcoming Russian forces into their city And as usual, mainstream media don't cover it because Russian forces is protecting and doing the "right" thing. Same as how US reacted to Afghan and Iraq

first

Yes! Finally someone making US accountable

Ukrainian are fighting for their own life. There were some special BS operation. But its all about conventional wisdom and If we were to define the word “philosophy” in both its academic and colloquial sense that is, actual “philosophy” and the more casual “she responded philosophically” we might say that it means both to get to the fundamental truth of things as well as to view things calmly and with perspective. The history of Europeans and the irony that while the rule of law prevails in Britain what western enablers do is in a sense more egregious than what foreign kleptocrats do, because in the West we have a genuine, institutionalized rule of law, while kleptocrats operate in systems where no real rules exist. Their complicity in kleptocracy has corroded the legal integrity of the British system. The laundering of a kleptocrat’s public image, do not happen by accident or on its own. Professional intermediaries in the established democracies are critical links for venal kleptocrats, who seek to move ill-gotten gains from authoritarian systems into the democracies and the finance system, where the rule of law offers their ill-gotten wealth a safe and respectable haven. I found it fascinating to learn that the most popular book in the state and defense departments right now is Thucydides’ The History of the Peloponnesian War. What does it say that the people who have access to the best intelligence on the planet-spies, dossiers, diplomats, satellite imagery-are reading a book published about a war between Athens and Sparta 2,500 years ago. But it makes sense: The wisdom in that book has stood the test of time. It goes to the essence of human nature and to conflicts between great powers.

algo

i see that about russia too! like why they want are forced to do what they do..

Good facts on the Russia vs Ukraine facts... Next can do Palestine vs Israel?

@pov72

2 жыл бұрын

I heard some christian groups use the bible to say Palestinians are not real so giving them the reason to kill them.. I cant believe this discrimination still exists today

ig everyone shld agree that nobody is in the right yet are justifiable in this war

Russia can't be without her twins but USA tries to separate the union that causes Madonions go Talibananen. 🤣🤶

Hard to feel pity for the boy who get swiped by bear after poking it constantly now the bear is on a rampage killing the boy's family which I feel pity about.

AIR INDIA 💀💀💀💀

"Im a Ukranian living in Singapore", believe me when you see Ukraine Military soldier killing its own people and blaming it on Russians, you will never die for such a country anymore.

29:28 if you don’t even know the fundamentals or the basics, how you gonna fight when your so called ”high-tech“ resources run out ??? It’s like you don’t train a doctor without making them learn human anatomy.

the previous president of ukraine was friends with putin and they could discuss peaceful business but after this new western influenced ukraine president joined, their relations weakened

@NobodyUR

2 жыл бұрын

Not always going to be friends with your neighbors. Still need to respect each other and their property. Goes for both sides btw not just one sided on this point.

@nicholaslow1992

2 жыл бұрын

bruh.... previous president was a hated Russian puppet, of course he's friendly with Putin. the new president is an independent POPULIST, who ran a pro-Ukraine, pro-independence, pro-self determination campaign. do you know what populist means? it means a politician that runs on policies that are popular among the people. he did not create the desire to distance from Russia, it was the people's desire.

Last year with no place left to turn I prayed to God in repentance then begged for help with all my heart, "I was until then a lifelong Atheist." I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed because I've never read the bible", and the love I felt from Jesus was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of joy every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life forever. I've had other miracles since, a few being a light turning on in answer to deeply needful prayer 6 times, seeing a orb of light hours before a major surgery, seeing an Angel in a dream the night my mother prayed for me to see one, "Without telling me", and so much more. Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you love and forgive them and do your best to follow, "I've failed many times", the 10 commandments.

bruh john paul shining in this episode

@user-kd2ez2mb3c

2 жыл бұрын

Shining in terms of being wrong rofl

I am just curious so far everyone has been hailing Ukraine President as the 'war hero' and great leader. Has anyone thought that Ukraine's President was the only who could avoid the war to even begin with. I may not know the details or his agenda but a good leader will avoid bloodshed at all cost. He just had to agree with his crazy neighbor that Ukraine won't join the 'cool kids' club - NATO. So many lives could have been saved but his ego is more important. Also knowing you have a crazy neighbor that will get triggered at anytime, why would you want to provoke him? haha.. he will set your house on fire when you're sleeping..

If america doesn’t meddle, the world will be alot more peaceful. I too don’t think Russia is the bad guy.

@LittlePanda888

2 жыл бұрын

Neither is Russia a "good" guy. States arejust doing what serves their self interest.