would love to see this but with the us against china instead, also would love too see the iver huitfeld class frigate in a video ;)

@cassius_eu5970

11 ай бұрын

They already did a China vs US destroyer battle: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ip-JmKV7YcK9n9o.html :)

@xuhuama1238

6 ай бұрын

Do not let Indians see that, whatever official and civilian, Indian has a sense of superiority, which is several decades ahead of China. Please don't say that much, just say this is a fishing boats. So I hope and you guys to say that India is the most advanced and powerful country in the universe.

@piaoduandiao_

2 ай бұрын

@@xuhuama1238😂😂

@A350Airways

2 ай бұрын

Or Japanese Atagos; Japan would be fighting the PLAN long before an Iver Huitfeld or Type 26 would...

If you manage to intercept a hypersonic missile a few hundred feet from its target - the missile is still going to take your ship out. You'll just convert it into a massive fragmentation bomb which will tear everything important to pieces - sensors, RADAR, personnel. That 45 would be history.

@wordzy

11 ай бұрын

Would suck to be part of the upper deck weapons crew when that happened.

@nicksutton3192

11 ай бұрын

Ok navy expert steve

@gattlinggun9881

8 ай бұрын

TH!S GAME ENG!NES US PR0PAGANDA!!!

@LondonSteveLee

5 ай бұрын

​@@ts757arse Indeed, you don't need to sink a ship - just take it out of the battle. All this focus on million dollar missiles when the future is a sub popping up or a small craft up-wind over the horizon launching 250 cheap shaped-charge or grenade-carrying drones with AI programmed to look for and attack telecommunications equipment, RADAR masts, the bridge, any aircraft etc. How do you defend against that? One you've taken the ship's eyes and ears - it's a sitting duck - at the very least it's no longer a fighting force.

@LondonSteveLee

5 ай бұрын

@@ts757arse But these small mostly plastic drones carrying plastic explosives are practically invisible on RADAR. Sure optical systems are pretty good - but only in the right conditions - and if you are hit with a swarm of them you are not going to win.

In Real Scenario, they would launch barrage of YJ-18 missiles first, while firing YJ-21 wave after YJ-18 reach halfway. So they would arrive in the same time and the effects would be massive

@truezyf

11 ай бұрын

DCS developer need to improve the launch program. they don't do this in real life

@Chickenworm9394

11 ай бұрын

DCS must nerf Chinese weapons to make the western bloc look less ugly

@pewww99

11 ай бұрын

really sounds devastating

@Black_loyalist

11 ай бұрын

@@pewww99 Not only that. The depicted scenario is also wrong. YJ-21 is using Wave Rider technology, which make them Much more maneuverable than Conventional anti ship missiles. In this scenario, they potray YJ-21 just like traditional one

@jdeuraud1096

11 ай бұрын

@@Black_loyalist “YJ-21 is using Wave Rider technology, which make them Much more maneuverable than Conventional anti ship missiles.” Says the CCP. Do you have any proof that the PRC has this tech, other than the CCP says so? Hells, do you have any proof that the YJ-21 and its DF counterpart works at all? The PRC's HGV that got the world into a tizzy about Hypersonics missed its target, a stationary location, by 24 miles, and was launched by a rocket booster, not the DF missile booster that is the other half of the DF/YJ missile. The issue I have with all PRC scenarios are that the specs for their tech is based upon what the CCP tells us, not what the world has witnessed.

The YJ-21 that was intercepted just next to a T45 would have inflicted a LOT of shrapnel damage on the upper decks. When u intercept a missile head on (ish) then bits of shrapnel may behave like a titanic shotgun blast.

@cassaia7805

11 ай бұрын

Imagine a hot 4m piece of metal hitting the tower of the ship at mach 5/6

@xuhuama1238

6 ай бұрын

Do not let Indians see that, whatever official and civilian, Indian has a sense of superiority, which is several decades ahead of China. Please don't say that much, just say this is a fishing boats. So I hope and you guys to say that India is the most advanced and powerful country in the universe.

@zenntoshi

3 ай бұрын

​阿三宇宙第一😂@@xuhuama1238

8 Type055 already in service, and 8 more will be under construction

@hughmungus2760

11 ай бұрын

china is building the equivalent tonnage of a whole british navy every 5 years

@kinh211

11 ай бұрын

@@hughmungus2760一年一个法国海军😂

I can't wait to see if someone does the constellation class frigate from the U.S. against other frigates

@MrYaxalot

11 ай бұрын

Its just a smaller burke with a less capable radar and less vlss cells

@golden_rust1713

11 ай бұрын

Yea but in my mind it is still cool

@nickgreer6877

11 ай бұрын

@@golden_rust1713 I love this reply... like everything is a derivative of something... so if we took "Just a small Burke" approach to life then how boring would life be 😀

@tonykriss1594

11 ай бұрын

@@nickgreer6877 Well it's not just "a small burke". There's another catch that is US navy forget why they want constellation in the first place.

@montys420-

11 ай бұрын

​@@MrYaxalotand a tiny gun

The type 55 and type 52 are built as group defense warship to protect carriers. Its amount of VLS is carries are the answers

The Type 055 is -by far- the most advanced and capable Destroyer Class in the world, according to most relevant Naval experts. They are NO MATCH against the British equivalents, which are not even in top 5 among Destroyers globally on most lists (2022-). Not even the latest Arleigh-Burke Flights are equal. Type 055s have anti/ship ballistic missiles etc. And the largest and most sensitive radar detection fields in the world, not to mention the type 055 is super hard to see on enemy radars due to their anti-radar stealth design - not even mentioned here. Also, not even all systems and capabilities on the type 055 are even known yet. You are quite funny to suggest they have a chance. 🙂 Thank goodness, we will probably never find out how this battle would end IRL.

@markchadderton4857

11 ай бұрын

Baffling

@jamie193h

11 ай бұрын

True but then again, the type 45 amd type 26 are not designed to fight surface ships, they have the capability but its not their job. So of course in a one on one engagement they aren't going to do as well, but as part of a CSG the Chinese are probs hard pressed

@Isaax-vv6rt

10 ай бұрын

The world doesn't work by rankings, modern warships are so advanced that even weaker warships are able to kill those that have more firepower, simply due to the capabilities of modern missles.😅

@Trbrigade

10 ай бұрын

Chinese russian fanboys are so stupid

@tomsoki5738

10 ай бұрын

One problem, it’s Chinese, Chinese tech is decades off western tech and the Chinese lie about EVERYTHING just like the Russians

In real combats, no one can adjust the parameters to give the losing side some decencies.

In reality, Chinese Navy would send out >1000 drones through 075 type ships first to drain your air--defense missiles first before launching any YJ18 or YJ21 anti-ship missiles.

@rayhuang6155

11 ай бұрын

not 075,is 076😂

@bieke780

11 ай бұрын

076

@11Tits

2 ай бұрын

wait till this guy realises ships are being fitted with jammers against drone attacks

In real life the YJ-18s and YJ-21s would be timed so they arrive on target simultaneously. Same goes for the Spears and Naval Strike Missiles. The side that carries the most "tube" (most AAMs) prevail. But basically in a future peer-to-peer fight, no surface vessel is safe.

@xXBisquitsXx

11 ай бұрын

yeah that's why a lot of countries are investing in Submarines, carriers and land/air launched ASM's. Also why modern warships tend to favour defense as they are just there to act as floating radars/AA platforms.

@desendean6488

11 ай бұрын

Why do we need it though 🤔

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

@@desendean6488 Most of the world's trade goes by sea. Cut a nation off from its sea links and it can quickly run out of food, fuel, essential machinery, etc. There's also issues like disputes over territory so it's useful to be able to deter a potential aggressor from just seizing your islands and offshore facilities whenever they want.

@desendean6488

11 ай бұрын

@@trolleriffic these war ships are good for only two reasons , number 1 is for power . Number 2 is for destruction

@chanalex8358

11 ай бұрын

YJ-21D is the longest anti-ship missile in the world , this is a one side attacking . The Chinese warship could easily beat any warships around the world include aircraft.

No self respecting Brit will ever turn down the chance for a sea battle.

CSIS War game shows YJ 18’s all fired first then YJ-21 fired at half way mark to overwhelm defense of ships like they were designed. YJ-21 is Mach 6 and terminal speed of Mach 10. You have it backwards and don’t have these Chinese ships programmed correctly.

@Hsinking

11 ай бұрын

otherwise this video can only last for 5 minutes lol

@Chickenworm9394

11 ай бұрын

​@Hsinking Ah yes, the 5 Minutes Craft I love to watch

@JM-bn2xe

11 ай бұрын

In a real life scenario, these Chinese warships would be sunken by US subs before they leave the docks

@teeong1645

11 ай бұрын

​@@JM-bn2xelike the USS Connecticut?? 😂😂😂

@virginccyy7645

8 ай бұрын

No one has a terminal speed Hypersonic anti ship missile going at mach 10, how do I know that? Easy because how the hell is it gonna get a continuous weapons grade track that is moving? Can't happen! Only non moving fixed targets can be targeted!

This channel is the best. Good content posted everyday. Thank you Grim Reapers for killing the boredom.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

Yes Sir

I dont think YJ-21 could be intercepted so easily.

@peters620

5 ай бұрын

Hypersonic missiles have huge thermal and radar cross sections have to slow down in their terminal stages where they can't maneuver rapidly either. The bigger problem is the fragments are still dangerous. Their advantage is the ability to get near the target rather than evade terminal defenses

Good video :) we did better than I expected ☕ Love your work lads

the antiship SPEAR 5 looks like how the f104 would look like if it was a unmanned missile

@m1t2a1

11 ай бұрын

F-104 became a manned and unmanned missile often enough for the credit.

@kriswu6666cute

11 ай бұрын

LOL yes!!! It does look like a f104. It's so cute(hard to relate that to a missile but it is a cute one )

@OscarZheng50

11 ай бұрын

@@kriswu6666cute the f104 already looks like a missile, its basically a missile with a cockpit that carries and shoots missiles

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

@@m1t2a1 Mainly in a ground-attack capacity and whether the pilot liked it or not...

Let's not say why Type055 and 052D come close to the range of SPEAR 5 can hit, YJ-21 can be intercepted? Over 10 mark missile strike vertically can not be intercepted yet on this planet

@willwozniak2826

10 ай бұрын

Did you see the video where Cap launched 80 YJ 21s at a 2025 US Carrier Strike Group? 😅😅

@landon1882

10 ай бұрын

@@willwozniak2826 Lmao. That's ridiculous

@sweatybotfn9982

10 ай бұрын

@@willwozniak2826YJ-21 is not impossible to intercept, just super hard because of the speed, it’s difficult to predict it’s trajectory and to control the timing. The really untouchable missile is DF-17 using a gliding trajectory, unable to be predicted it goes like /^\_ out and back in the atmosphere, like a dolphin leaping out and then cruising at high speed below

@kiana154

7 ай бұрын

All ballistic missile can be intercepted in mid-course,but only China and USA have mid-course missile interception

@landon1882

7 ай бұрын

@@kiana154 The ballistic trajectory of YJ21 can not be predicted even in the mid-course. Cause it uses qian-xuesen ballistics. The trajectory could do up-and-down motion

2 yj21s hit the same ship at 12mins btw. great video, happy 100 naval battles!

Close in Naval Battles with guns is Best naval Battles ! Great video as always Cap

I've seen a lot of discussion on Chinese websites about type26 destroyers, and the general consensus is that the ship offers too much space for sailors' comfort and too little for weapons, with some calling it a "luxury cruise ship with advanced weapons." type26 does a good job of form factor design and high-tech weaponry, but it is not an "go all out" warship, and usually a destroyer of this tonnage can have more weapons systems.

@kinh211

11 ай бұрын

威慑中国海警都够呛🤣

I like how each Spear 5 has 4 interceptors flying right at it in a line. The PLAN want to make damn sure they hit it.

@hughmungus2760

11 ай бұрын

its supersonic, sea skimming and low observable so it is probably the most dangerous thing outside of hypersonics.

Luv CH's new stuff!

that first last ditch sea-scepter intercept was amazing, the way it TV'ed right out of the tube to interpose itself between the ship and the missile. IRL that would probably still have been a mission killed ship, at such short range the remains of the YJ-21 would have become mach 6 buckshot.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

Yup, reminds me of the remains of Scud missiles hitting the city even after Patriot hit them in 1991.

@dorothythompson4832

11 ай бұрын

@@grimreapers嘿，美国佬😂

@lengthao8424

11 ай бұрын

​@@grimreapersPatrick missles can't protect Saudi Oil Fields and had been destroyed in Ukraine as well any body use US and Britain make weapons will lost period.......!!!!!!! Since Korean War America and Western make weapons lost all the war that is truth and its very very sad.......!!!!!!!!!

@dma6987

11 ай бұрын

​@@lengthao8424 will，thanks to irac，it works in gluf war

"An officer with his sidearm". Lol. This is why you guys are great. Not just the simulations but the humor.

I'm starting to like the naval battles, better than the air battles!!

@cassius_eu5970

11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's also much easier to follow what is happening in naval battles. Air battles are always quite chaotic, especially if Cap is flying a plane himself, since viewers can't really see what's going on in the battlefield.

Bro I died😂😂 “it almost hit them, if that helps” and “god save the Qu…ing”

Interesting to think that though the Type 45 will be fitted with 24 sea ceptors in the mushroom farm setup, it was originally ffbnw either 16 mk 41 strike length or 16 sylver a70 (its 48 current ones are a50), the 24 single cell sea ceptors are a budget option. Could have had 64 sea ceptors in a quadpack configuration. Although the best way of quadpacking sea ceptor is the exls that canada will use, which allows soft launch and is a lot smaller and less penetrative than mk 41. Wish that it was going to be used for type 26,

Ive not watched this yet so commenting blind, but ive tried all the naval combinations with the two CH provided RN boats and when its 2 on two it always ends in a stalemate. all the boats have greater defensive capabilities than offensive ones. Interesting to see how this plays out though.

@taiga1290

11 ай бұрын

China has no idea how to fight any naval battle, they have not participated in any modern warfare ever, they build things they have no idea how to operate, based on stolen technology. Hell, their new aircraft carrier is basically useless because they built it incorrectly. China is a joke when it comes to stuff like this

FYI RN warfare officer here they type 45 can get positive weapons lock on a US Arleigh Burke-class destroyer before said destroyer is able to detect the type 45. Then can guide in assets from the submarine fleet, feel air arm etc no way the chines out range the Americans the aster 30 have the highest success rate of any SAM battery and sea sceptre is even more accurate. The type 45s fire control computer doesn't get over saturated.

Love these videos. The thing about watching these is I was CIWS operator on a Cruiser and we operated them from Local control which is about midships and from CIC which is more forward. Almost all of these missiles look like they would have hit the Local control station. Feels bad.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

Were the control rooms armored?

@Raifboi

11 ай бұрын

@grimreapers Heya! Nope no armor. But couldn't have felt safer. Between the 2 vls , 2 5inch guns, 2 ciws, 2 25mm and some of the best sailors I've ever met we were in good hands.

@j.4354

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@grimreapersUsually built within citadels to prevent exterior contamination (CBRN) or watertight integrity being compromised and allowing water to flood into the compartment however there’s usually multiple LCS’s dotted about.

I'm excited to see if FCASW has it's 50kg Independent submunitions modeled! 🤤

I think RN might have done better if only one type of "Spear5" was used so that they all arrived at the same time on target. Probably the cruise version as that seemed to get closer and would arrive similar time to NSM. Adjusting relative positions of T45 and T26 to achieve closer timing if possible

since the YJ-21 fly so much faster than the YJ-18, would it make sense for them to fire the YJ-18 first then the 21 so that the 21 would catch up and come from the top around the same time as the 18 approach from ocean surface?

The way the AI is wasting the chinese SAM's is unreal. I don't know if there's some coding bias going on ( I don't think so ) but if they weren't so much stronger ships they would loose with the way they were wasting their missiles.

@hallo84

11 ай бұрын

They have to compensate this in the game or it would be too boring having the western factions lose all the time. In reality nothing travelling at mach 10 vertically has been intercepted yet with a missile so the first YJ-21 salvo would've already have done the job.

*"the Type055 is incredibly expensive" Meanwhile the confused Chinese designer thinking less than half the price of an Arleigh Burke is supposed to be good...

@tianyuanfan6039

11 ай бұрын

Chinese shipyards are just leading in the shipbuilding industry, so they can build more at a faster rate for a cheaper price, it is how it is

@tren133

11 ай бұрын

Also "They are only making a few of them, Thank God" ... meanwhile 8 are already commissioned and another 8 possibly upgraded 055As are being built as we speak.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

^^ fair comment.

@hughmungus2760

11 ай бұрын

@@tianyuanfan6039 If it were a strategy game, china would be considered overpowered.

10:58 its because when the Spear-5 is launched vertically, the Type 055/052D radar can get a targeting solution, but since the missiles go down to 18ft above the ground - they lose that solution and the missiles go dumb

It is ridiculous that a 30mm gun can intercept several missiles at speed of mach 3.

@yingnyang2889

9 ай бұрын

You do realize that at 3200 fps, is about 2100 miles per hour … or Mach 3. Too bad you didn’t go to school and learn some math.

@AmirShafeek

7 ай бұрын

​@@yingnyang2889to bad the don't teach folks to convert fps into mach

@yingnyang2889

7 ай бұрын

@@AmirShafeekwell it makes sense…this generation can’t even figure what sex they are. Greatest Generation / Silent Generation: we stormed D-Day or Iwo Jima Boomers: Vietnam war Millennials: Afghanistan Current group: we chopped our D’ks off

@keithwouldstay

7 ай бұрын

It's actually not - it has been done before.

12:16 In the immortal words of The Mighty Jingles, “If you throw enough shit at the wall, eventually some of it is going to stick.”

Missile mass wins. The lesson from the Sherman tank needs to be remembered.

@rossthomson1958

11 ай бұрын

“Lesson from the Sherman tank”don’t tell me you still believe that it took 5 Sherman to kill a tiger/panther.

@333thelema5

11 ай бұрын

So did German won the ww2?

@liamh9814

11 ай бұрын

@@rossthomson1958 what an asinine reply, anyone with any sense knows that the lessons of the Sherman concerned the US’s ability to rapidly industrialise, and concentrate on making good enough products rather than technically perfect products. Incremental improvements to the base platform over time to kept it lethal. It also highlighted the need for good crew training and sound application of military doctrine.

@lanejohnson7656

11 ай бұрын

@@liamh9814Yet the US didn’t learn a F’n thing. With high taxes and insane regulations (along with help from the unions and a massive welfare state) they chased industry out of the country.. Not only that, but modern weapons are stupid tech heavy, the vast majority of them requiring components a rock skip away from China to function.. In a war with China good luck getting micro chips weapons and weapon systems require to function from factories that have been turned into rubble.. That’s how F’n brilliant the US government and military is..

I think"It just looks French" when Cap is instant saying "It looks nothing!" 🤣🤣😂😂

There are 8 Type 055s already launched. Latest data shows another flight of n has begun construction.

@dexlab7539

11 ай бұрын

Yup, NATO is in serious trouble - China is building ships at a Massive rate! That’s why US wants a war over Taiwan by 2025. They LOSE after that

@ChrisZ901

11 ай бұрын

Yes 9th and 10th are being built out right now. Rumor says that PLAN plans to have a total of 16 of them

@SpruceWood-NEG

11 ай бұрын

@@ChrisZ901 32

@ChrisZ901

11 ай бұрын

@@SpruceWood-NEG evidence?

@SpruceWood-NEG

11 ай бұрын

@@ChrisZ901 What kind of evidence is needed? The production is calculated as X1.2 times of the total number of US troops+Japanese warships. One 055 is worth 700 million US dollars, one 055A is worth 830 million US dollars, one 052DL is worth 400 million US dollars, and the latest 054B is worth 280 million US dollars (without military mobilization, an average of 4 055, 20 052DL, and 30 054B can be in service within 2 years). These warships are positioned as consumables for large-scale warfare, please do not overestimate them. Consumables are consumables, and 32 055 ships are far from enough.

Nice good shooting .

A day of infamy by jingo! Awesome video, CH is a genius.

Great vid Cap! Looking for a video that could show the power of F-35 hive mind via Link16. For example, 2 F-35s traveling in stealth ahead of a handful of F-15/F-18 missile trucks that share the F-35s radar via Link16 vs a Russian air wing with 2 Felons with equal amount of gen 4 missile trucks. I'm guessing you would need to use AWACS to simulate Link16??

In real life the missile salvos will timed and placed vastly different from this simulation.

@ashscott6068

11 ай бұрын

Real life different to video game? NOOOO! You mean I won't really run faster when I'm holding a knife? I got expelled from school for nothing?

@lanejohnson7656

11 ай бұрын

In real life superior weapons don’t out weight incompetent moron leadership.. Want proof? Google Vietnam, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan..

This is the first batch of 055s 8 of 24.. continuously improving ... good luck .Great Britannia 😅😅😅

nice to see we have a 100% kill rate vs hypersonic missiles as long as we have a missile to answer :S

Missile looks like a flying aircraft carrier lol.

To achieve "Leakage" y'all need to find a way to do a Time on Target (ToT) attack. You've got to teach the AI to stagger its missile firing time such that the missiles arrive at the same time. This is how an actual naval engagement is likely to be prosecuted.

I've documented all of the UK ships being made so this was v.enjoyable. What game engine are you using? Nice bow wakes!

@lukehinch3441

6 ай бұрын

the game they use is dcs i believe but on custom servers

很不错的视频❤ very good video

Seems quantity of missiles still matters over quality if there is not much of a generational gap

The range of YJ21 is about 1000km,and the terminal speed of yj18 is about Mach 3,range is 600km,there's no chance for British

Why is there such a professional military fan channel on KZread? It is much more professional than the military channel in traditional Chinese.

i want to konw is there existed a Missile That can interrupt mach 10 yj21 with nearly 90% Interruption successfully rate？

There seem to be something wrong with our battlecruisers today!!!

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

Classic

CH is my fav person you have on here

CH is a modding beast

the type 055 is not "incredibly expensive", one of these "cruisers" costs a bit less than a type 45, considering Chinas GDP its safe to asume China will keep producing these, in big numbers, making the unit cost fall even lower

@mikuzoid

11 ай бұрын

Yep, the Pentagon is currently pushing for a $1 trillion budget just to keep match with China just due to how much more cost efficient the Chinese are lol.

@MaxIsStrange1

11 ай бұрын

I think you meant China’s GDP (Gross Domestic Product) but you confused it with Chat GPT. If not, could you explain which GPT (General-Purpose Technology) did you mean? It seems like only mass production and automation really fit…

@TP-ie3hj

11 ай бұрын

I guess his comment is relative? That said, I agree, I have read that it cost far less than a Type 45 or Burke. They have 8 in service and it looks like the second batch is already underway. I think its safe to say they will be made in large numbers with at least 16 in service within a short few years.

@dexlab7539

11 ай бұрын

Yes, Type 55 costs much less than US Burke. This is the end game for NATO and US. Quantity Matters

@michelwan9073

11 ай бұрын

@@TP-ie3hj 36 for 9 Aircraft Carrier in project

Did I hear the Spear 5 missiles will only be in service in 2030? In that case what kind of comparison are you making when the Chinese YJ21 and YJ18 are already operational?

@joshuasenior4370

11 ай бұрын

It’s just a bit of fun

@Chickenworm9394

11 ай бұрын

DCS has been so busy making this sea battle watchable

Need to add a few attack submarines to the mix!

The feeling is mutual.

Well. We're screwed

Canada is scheduled to get Type 26 in the future.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

I think you guys are going to run different missiles to UK.

The Type 055 has 112 VLS cells ... why did you run them with a reduced load out?

@surefresh8412

11 ай бұрын

Where'd you get that from? 72 + 16 + 16 + 8 = 112

@richardsharpe6113

11 ай бұрын

@@surefresh8412 The Type 055's ULS cells can be quad-packed with the FM3000N or its successors ... and I bet that in the real world they will do that for some of them.

@hughmungus2760

11 ай бұрын

@@richardsharpe6113 the FM3000N would most likely only be used as a self defense missile so maybe 12-16 cells would get dedicated to them. Maybe more if the mission spec was more air defense focused rather than antiship warfare.

054A ： am I a joke to u？

Type 45 is more comparable to China's Type 054B frigate, similiar displacement, similiar or the same number of VLS (and ignoring China's VLS are multipurpose and bigger than Slyver), and both have a pair of rotating AESA on top.

@niweshlekhak9646

5 ай бұрын

Don't judge Type 45 by it's VLS cells, because it is reloadable at sea quickly, it doesn't need to come back to base or wait for axillary vessel to reload.

That first hyperosonic missiles that only got intercepted last second would have dealt some real damage irl. The debris would still have hit that ship with a loooooot of pwoer. I dont lile seeing the chinese win but they woyld have done significant damage with that opening volley, one ship being disabled would have meant less interceptors, imafter that and it would cascaded into a humiliatings defeat from there

Spear 5 looks like an Upsidedown F5E Jet

Cap, I was wonder if you giving any thought to using anit-air laser weapons the U.S. is developing for use aboard the newest type of ships?

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

They've been developing things like that for decades. Until they enter service and performance data becomes available it's all just guesswork. The UK is working on something called Dragonfire which is a similar system - a technology demonstrator that it's hoped will achieve performance levels needed for a viable weapon. These systems do at last seem close to realisation but we could be talking 5 or 10 years before they become a standard feature on warships.

@11Tits

2 ай бұрын

@@trolleriffic i think we will see dragonfre on the type 26 when it gets rolled out in 2028. Pure speculation however.

YJ-21 isn't even the latest missile, YJ-21 is based on DF-21 which was developed in the late 2000s, wave-glider ASMs based on DF-17, which is actually smaller than DF-21 is almost guaranteed to be in development if not already in service.

i cant to wait to see the PLAN NEW frigate 054B, vs the US constellation.frigate

You need combined arms to beat that thing or more ships. Call the USAF!

You just need one hundred and something per cent anti ship missiles vs the number of enemy anti air defence.

8:01 looks like a meteor but on bulk

Think we need more missiles

Apparently, China are building another 8 type 055's!😮

@sebastijanglozinic8630

11 ай бұрын

Type 055As. Which are an improved version. Though i am not sure what exactly was changed. But yeah, China now has over 40% of the world total ship building capacity. Not even the Americans can keep up with them any more.

@IetsgoBrandon

11 ай бұрын

Yes, so I wonder what kind of war they expect in the future. China owns such a powerful navy much more than defence purpose

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

Building ships like Britain used to! Rapid iterations in design to quickly develop and deploy new classes of warship in significant numbers. It's a good way of working if you can do it - each new generation is a worthwhile upgrade but doesn't try to be a revolutionary change so development is less likely to hit insurmountable hurdles and the rapid pace of their introduction means that capabilities are massively improved over fairly short timescales.

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

@@sebastijanglozinic8630 A few years ago I had a fascinating conversation with a guy from the Royal Navy and he mentioned that one of their guys had gone over to China on an official visit and was taken to see one of the big shipyards that caters to both civilian and military work (I think it was Dalian) - he counted 42 surface combatants under construction just in that one yard! The production capacity is insane even compared to the massive yards in Korea.

@yuny2023

11 ай бұрын

@@sebastijanglozinic8630只是换了电磁炮和激光武器，其他没什么改变，同时出现的应该还有057型，不过中国人民对这些兴趣不大，只在乎以自己省命名的航空母舰什么时候造好。

22:01 me when number 8 is not available

The Type 26 has a third silo now where the hangars would be....bringing the missile count to 104

Cap could you look into doing a video about the (Hsiung Feng III) missile it seems very good and I would love to see it vs the Brahmos and the RBS15

@user-fu5ok4mc4k

11 ай бұрын

Hsiung Feng III missiles are too backward~~the range is 120 kilometers~ the technical level is the technology of China's haiying-3 in the 1970s.Hsiung Feng III is an abandoned technology in the 1980s in the United States. In this era, it is estimated that even the North Korean navy can't beat it.

this needs to be updated to include the new dragon fire system

If possible, can you guys do one with Tughril Frigate and Babur Corvettes?

Bad news: 4 more 055 upgraded version are under construction. Good news: The Royal Navy doesn't have the balls to risk their the entire destroyer fleet(only 6 Type45😂)

@user-jg9cc5oe7m

11 ай бұрын

哈哈哈，上面一个英国人认知有限，吹联合西方国家怼到中国家门口，他也不用自己的屁股想想，中国的成千上万的陆基导弹是吃干饭的？

@Chips-Dubbo

11 ай бұрын

Can you take on the entire planet though.

@CN_MightyDragon

11 ай бұрын

@@Chips-Dubbo What makes you think the planet is on your side to destroy its global factory and second large economy? Clearly you don't understand capitalism.

How could you simulate the performance of different SAMs in this game, please? Apart from the operational range and speed given in internet? I suppose it is trickier to model SAMs than AShM in a game, since we don't know the interception rates of them.

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

It comes down to getting as much publicly available info that is likely to be true or close to the truth, and perhaps integrating it with performance models for other similar weapons.

Ya I don't know Cap I don't think the Brit's are going to have enough defense cause of the bad kill ratio on the Hypersonics.

the type 26 will also have 8 NSM in a deck launched configuration as well as a laser CIWS

@Chips-Dubbo

11 ай бұрын

we would still lose. Missile mass wins in 21st century naval warfare. Always

Could i be more excited!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't understand why the UK is spending money on CAMM. Makes no sense when they have access to ESSM which can be quad packed into mark 41 VLS cells. As I understand it ESSM doesn't need to be networked with AEGIS as the Zumwalt class has shown. The type 26 has 24 mark 41 cells which can give up to 96 ESSMs. We seen that ESSM can knock down the YJ 18 and 21s pretty well. What do you guys think? Also when is CH going to model in the Zumwalt? 😃

@MaxIsStrange1

11 ай бұрын

Man, Zumwalt would be really nice to have! I wonder how these types of battles would go against stealthy ships on one side.

@user-pp3wn7yd5i

11 ай бұрын

One reason might be that Camm is fire and forget,carries active radar and searches for the target itself.Essm as semi active radar,needs a stir slave unit to "illuminate" the target constantly and there is a limit in how many missiles you can guide with 1 stir unit. USN started developing the essm block 2 with active radar homing recognizing that the future belongs to active radar sams.

@carwyngriffiths

11 ай бұрын

CAMM is a incredibly effective system, the most up to date in its weight class.

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

@@MaxIsStrange1 Zumwalt would bankrupt the Royal Navy.

@trolleriffic

11 ай бұрын

The UK buys CAMM for the same reason that the US buys things like ESSM and SM-6 - because it's a highly capable home-grown weapon that integrates perfectly with the ship's onboard sensors and weapon control systems.

type 55 is literally a cruiser, despite what the labelling would have you believe. VLS counts: Chinese: Type55: 112 , Type 52D:64, 176 total British: both Type 45 and 26 had 48 to start with, but are now waiting additional 24 cells upgrade, so realistically in between 96 to 144 total The Chinese have a clear advantage here to start with, which just isn't cricket

@vader1a

11 ай бұрын

I was thinking I ve heard that you are getting upgraded to more cells. Which is good they are needed

@bussolini6307

11 ай бұрын

the chinese have advantage in cells and in anti-ship missile quality.

@deathdrone6988

11 ай бұрын

Well, until the Zumwalts are called 'obese destroyers' while weighing 3000 tons more, calling the type055 a 'large destroyer' is quite generous of them

@Wthompson747

11 ай бұрын

In all of these simulations, the side with the most missiles seem to win. God is on the side with the biggest VLS count.

@dexlab7539

11 ай бұрын

@@deathdrone6988Zumbwalts are a total mess - Massive cost overruns. Likely a dead program with limited ships

上什么鹰击21，对付这几条舰，用鹰击18绰绰有余了，末端超音速突防它们根本拦不住

I would like to see the NCC-1701D versus the Chinese frigates.

America actually classifies the type 055 destroyer as a cruiser because it is in the size range of cruisers

You've forgotten to put the mod links in the description Cap.

@grimreapers

11 ай бұрын

Roger adding now.

Those two point blank interceptions should mission kill all the radars and sensors , the shrapnel from Mach 10 missiles detonating at 100 ft would shred the ship

Looks like the RN just got junked.

UK please get out of pacific, we Taiwannese doesn't want have war with CCP, but US and UK try to let Taiwan becoming Ukraine. Very terrible idea. Taiwan people don't have any hate with Mainland China people. Actually, without Western, we can have peace life with Mainland China.

@Chickenworm9394

11 ай бұрын

The politicians have their pockets lined up with the military industrial complex

The main thing I question about your war games is the seeming reliability of your anti-missile missiles. Is their hit probability that good?

@nikolatasev4948

11 ай бұрын

It's all classified, and I bet even the classified data is mostly guesswork. They can only test their anti-missiles against their own missiles, since they don't have access to their enemies'. I can't find it right now, but I read somewhere this was the case with flares - US flares were much more effective against US missiles than against Soviet missiles, and the other way around. They optimized them against what they could test, not what they would meet at the battlefield.

LOL in reality YJ-18 will get the subsonic carrier release the supersonic missile when approaching the target within 30-40 km which allows the homing sensor to capture the target above horizon. The supersonic missile will then start sprinting in Mach 4 with its rocket engine until it hits the target.

Spearfish looks like a CF-104.