About as true as the 40 new hospital's

@Steelninja77

13 күн бұрын

Times are changing we can't be without a decent army in todays world.

@jungleboy1

10 күн бұрын

hahahaha

@nigethesassenach3614

4 күн бұрын

@@Steelninja77or navy and air force

We are Going on a Massive Ship building Program. First we have to Retire Everything we have In the Current Fleet to Pay for it 😂😂😂

@RelationalDatabase-us7fr

12 күн бұрын

These 28 ships / boats are only replacing things that have retired or will be retiring. Whether they are Astute and Dreadnoughts subs; Type 26 and Type 31 frigates; Amphibious ships etc. The only "gain" is 6 Amphibious related ships replacing (in the 2030s) 5.

@tonyridley8283

11 күн бұрын

That wouldn't surprise me one bit haha

Admiral of the Fleet the Viscount Shapps strikes again. 'We are enlarging our fleet by scrapping two more Type 23s.'

We are Britain, our euro allies can do the ground fighting but we need a massive navy, that's our role

They are about to pull the 200 million loan for upgrading facilities at Harland and Wolff and give the contract for 2 new Royal Navy ships to a Spanish shipbuilder.

We need to reverse privatisation.open the coal mines.open our farming .We need to undo the destructions tories have done to this once great country

Go ahead great Britain 🇬🇧🇬🇧

The current T45s and currently building T26s and T31s are perfectly adequate, or would be if they ever receive their full intended weapons fits instead of our Whitehall and Westminster vermin leaving them half armed i.a.w. their standard FFBNW lie. Above all, the ships require full appropriate strike length VLS installations suitable for each class. Meanwhile, ALL the remaining T23s need a minimum viable fit of 8 x deck canister launched NSMs in addition to the already installed CAMM Sea Ceptor AAW fit.

@lukeallison3713

14 күн бұрын

Agreed, the Type 45 should recieve 16 strike length sylver or Mk 41 cells with tomahawk or MdCN as an interim, FC/ASW in the future. 8 cells can be used to quadpack camm for 32 instead of 24 in the mushroom farm. 8 harpoons is the equivalent of 20 nsms in terms of topweight, so if their is space on the deck, 16 is a good number of NSMS (iver huitfeldt, Type 31 predecessor had 16 harpoons, 24 essms and 32 sm-2) Helps that is land attack capable too. Hopefully even if FC/ASW results in two different missiles, both are dual purpose, will help with the limited number of MK 41 cells on 26 and 31. More Mk 41 cells on Type 26 would be great for Asroc (or hopefully something more capable)

Lets wait and see if they come good. I hope they do as it will be fantastic for our country and our armed forces🇬🇧🇬🇧

Based on our aircraft carriers performance I’d be more concerned about us building ships with water sailing capability. Shapps also needs to get a grip of his mouth after directly contradicting his handlers in the US on China providing “lethal aid” to Russia too rather than playing the “tough guy”. Not that we’ll need to think about him again in 6 weeks.

What is the point of spending hundreds of billions and eventually trillions when there is nothing to defend from?

‘We outrank Russia in terms of submarines ‘……? Is that correct . I don’t think so

@arfgrogue5735

8 күн бұрын

In terms of technology, yes I'd say we have the upper hand over Russian subs. However, in terms of numbers, Russia has that edge.

It will be used on the roads and will also be able to smoothly surf the flooded potholes of UK streets.

So basically moth ball some of the older ships like Bulwark, Albion and a couple of Type 23 frigates, the only half decent ships the UK has got, obviously after being stripped of parts. But include them in the figures. We have both carriers seemingly out of use and basically the Type 45 destroyers are pretty useless. The new frigates will more then likely be riddled with issues as well. Our Navy is an embarrassment.

Make the uk great again

So what about HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark that I’ve been informed from the inside is getting sold to pay off a certain area that can’t be said on social media? Selling these will help fill up the much needed help on the shortages of the other ships of staff issues we have at the moment but that’s the only plus! This has been kept under wraps and if public knew the real reason there would be uproar because it leaves our fleet and especially our flagships without refuelling and other resources being able to be transferred from ship to ship meaning more stop offs or relying on other countries to fill the gaps. This isn’t what the government portrayed when we unveiled the 2 new flag ships at all.

How about more F35 to fully fill the carriers

@RelationalDatabase-us7fr

12 күн бұрын

I think they have or are going to order 24 Block E(?) ones.......

@B-A-L

10 күн бұрын

Blame the Americans for that not the British government!

As long as they aren’t Built in Scotland. The Type 45s and Carriers are a Mess.

Let’s hope they build them better than the two new carriers

Closed shipyards on the Tyne

Who does he think actually listens to him and believes a word he says?

@emmetray4141

13 күн бұрын

The ones that matter.

5 months and he will be gone. Finito.

@snoopysnoops007

6 күн бұрын

war is a racket

So whern there be more fully equipped escorts and and submarines and escorts .will be good to fully equippet the present fleet. In reality no increase in size of the navy

We have plenty engineers arriving in uk daily

@Steelninja77

13 күн бұрын

Yeah right. where lol. engineers smuggle themselves here on boats don't think so.

@edwardvalivonis23

13 күн бұрын

@Steelninja77 all they need is english tea and scones 🤣

@BossManAngry

13 күн бұрын

@@Steelninja77don’t be silly, they’re clearly all engineers, doctors and astronauts

@EnglishViking420

13 күн бұрын

Brilliant 😂😂

Land strike capability......what, like aircraft carriers with F35Bs?

$chatts asks if you’d be kind enough to simply forget about that propellor falling off .... oh, & the missile thing too, ta.

It's all going over budget and endless delays...MPs love blowing their own trumpet 🎺 😑

The last time there was a golden age of British ship building there was a global imperialist attitude which led to slavery, disease spread across the globe to different civilisations. But that’s okay because back then we said it was all for freedom and prosperity, a bit like what we are doing now. Bravo British Royal Navy. Let’s double down!

Clyde built World class. Poor design is the problem. The US navy have had the same problems and as for the Russians………

The navy is the smallest its ever been and we have not got enough aircraft for the carriers.

@user-fz7de4cz4w

13 күн бұрын

Got to Retire the Current Fleet to pay for All the new stuff 😂😂

Who was the last British defense minister?

@michaelprobert4014

6 күн бұрын

The last Minister of Defence (not Defense in the UK) was Peter Thorneycroft in 1964. The current Secretary of State for Defence is Grant Shapps. Just before he took office Ben Wallace held the post.

If we give the contracts to Fergusons they should be ready in 100 years 😂

So wait, they're going to get rid of the gym?

It's not the golden age tho... maybe when Britain ruled the waves yes, but not now...

Why warships?

@R8V10

14 күн бұрын

To protect Israel.

@icu17siberia

14 күн бұрын

they will help form carrier strike groups for the Royal Navy, which now depends on US Navy, for one thing. the other benefit is patrolling the channel, which seems to need it

Like the 40 hospitals

He does not sound familiar with the subject matter at all. "Excuse my Italian"?

28 bath tubs blah blah blah no taps no weapons no jets no lasers no missiles yada yada yada

Are they upgrading the 5 newest OPV which we are using as gunboats

Clap trap.

this chihuahua called UK defence ministry is always obsessed with russia lol

He is good but what a mess these popple have made

Get rich quick scheme man Michael Green. But why would an honest man use an alias?

Bring back engineering, there's no youth being trained in engineering... Its dire

@edwardvalivonis23

13 күн бұрын

Plenty engineers are arriving on dinghies 😂

The magic money tree seems to be used for everything except helping the British people.

@michaelprobert4014

6 күн бұрын

Building ships is helping the British people.

Utter Political Spin, Totally devoid of reality. He's a good talker though!!

Wow hes boring.

They are not talking about the right now situation they have a positive plan for future generations oh come on all chatting negatively because they push them to react negatively until all have nothing at least this country will not let them have negative views about the future oh come on .😊😊😊😊

war is a racket, just like Iraq and afghanistan

Is this so we can pick up more people in the channel, because that’s what we need in the U.K, is more people !

Clueless

Where is the steel going to come from? China? Not Britain for sure

@ricardosmythe2548

14 күн бұрын

Britain still produces its own steel and is in the process of upgrading one of its main steel manufacturing plants in Port Talbot to make it greener with over £1 billion being invested. The site in question makes steel for everything from tin cans to cars.

@AthelstanEngland

13 күн бұрын

​@@ricardosmythe2548green net zero is killing the country.

@sparkiegaz3613

12 күн бұрын

Not to worry france supplies the steel for the subs and the carriers were built with steel from turkey…😊

Multi named affiliate marketing grifter trickster posing as a government official

Aw shut up what waste of breath to get a few votes

Vassals lol

@emmetray4141

13 күн бұрын

Opposite actually. EU and Britin is going into parity with the U.S. over the next years. Less dependency and moee Oomph when joined.

@davidclerihew3539

5 күн бұрын

@@emmetray4141you surely dont actually believe that. US economic & foreign policy has been undermining Europes industrial capacity & independence for decades to make the continent dependent on them & has only accelerated since the push to move Europe away from Russian energy. Almost every “decision” now made in the UK from going to war to interest rate changes or major government policy are made in Washington & then just enacted here.

Grant says all kinds of things that do not come true................. The Navy chief sounds like a Tory fan boy.

SHAPPS IS LYING YET AGAIN, ALL THIS WAS DONE 5 YEARS AGO

BRING BACK THE DREADNOUGHTS

@RelationalDatabase-us7fr

12 күн бұрын

They are coming.......in the form of new subs

@nottmfunguy

7 күн бұрын

Back in the times when the Royal Navy was something to be proud of, not like the crappy state it is in now.

Come on, not again, spend money on education or healthcare.

@squirepraggerstope3591

14 күн бұрын

Most tediously predictable stupid non-comment of the month award. Well done!

@timdainton1634

13 күн бұрын

Without defence there would not be any schools or hospitals

@timphillips9954

10 күн бұрын

We are going to need that health care if a war breaks out in Europe with no armed forces

@squirepraggerstope3591

10 күн бұрын

@@timphillips9954Of course. So comprehensive a health care system will be of great benefit to our victorious opponents when they've knocked our undefended countries flat.

Waste of money

@emmetray4141

13 күн бұрын

Nope. Exactly where it is needed.

It's just a rumour that was spread around town.

When are we going to see the return of massive merchant ship building to Britain? We see all these huge modern multi billion pound cruise liners everywhere yet not one has been built in Britain!

Shut the door on your way out.

Nord 2 stream attacks, done by America, where are the navy he said people say, over the horizon, he said 🤣no in dry dock getting repaired

@emmetray4141

13 күн бұрын

Shitft change Ivan.

Whatever party is in next they need to continue with the investment into our armed forces. I would also like to see the number of our army increase. /that is pathetically low.

@sallyjones5094

13 күн бұрын

Why? So wr can keep giving other countries our old stock.

What a load of waffle, and why is he trying to speak like a statesman other doesn't suit him

Any being built in England ? Wales? NI ? .... or just all in Scotland ???

@vincescotian8083

14 күн бұрын

All in Scotland, though this as always is a promise that will never be kept less Warships will be funded and 30% of the weapon systems will never be installed.

@squirepraggerstope3591

14 күн бұрын

@@vincescotian8083 The Whitehall and Westminster vermin do love their standard FFBNW lie as a way of cutting cost.

What a total clown .