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"Bob" made several mistakes that gave him away as German - The way he wrote the date on the paper, how he sang the national anthem and his lighter was a brand from Germany/Austria plus no cuts or marks of jumping from a plane getting shot down.

@Bobamawesome

4 ай бұрын

The date really jumped out at me, an American writing it that way is just odd.

@NeilLewis77

4 ай бұрын

The Belgium was already pulling his pistol before "bob" got his lighter out. They may have seen it off screen. But ye the scene shows number of different ways they caught out infiltrators.

@James-zg2nl

4 ай бұрын

Don’t quote me on this, as NATO was formed after the war, but it’s NATO standard to write dates the European way, even if you are North American. This kind of standardization was also common during WWII but I am not sure about the particulars of the specific date writing during WWII for the Americans. I serve a few years very early into my adulthood and since then I always write the date the proper way, the European way, even though I am North American. The American date writing makes no sense. Even law enforcement in my country never use the American dating style because it’s so nonsensical. Ultimately, all I am saying is the date writing style on its own can be explained away, however with the other inconsistencies do fit in with his guilt, and since this series is based solely on the American perspective it makes sense narrative wise for the guides to never explain to the American servicemen how they caught the German spy.

@cyberdan42

4 ай бұрын

He also likely talked about London (as he was coached to) even though in reality (like the others state) he should have barely seen the place, if at all. Further, he puts a distinctive curl into his '6' and '9' that is typical of continental Europeans but not mainland US styling. It is not any one thing but the combination of small errors and inconsistencies (under stress) that place him under suspicion. Finally, I suspect that the Resistance very deliberately waited and executed him in front of the other US aircrew as a demonstration of the dangers they all face and the risk of trusting anyone or anything - brutal but effective.

@James-zg2nl

4 ай бұрын

@@cyberdan42 well put 🫡

I studied German in school. In German class we were required to write the date on our assignments using the European (German) format of day/month/year. When I saw Bob write the date that way, I shouted “OMG, he’s a German spy!” My friends who were watching looked at me with confusion, and then of course he was killed as a spy not long after. My friends demanded to know how I knew that, and I refused to tell them.

@saiien2

4 ай бұрын

Yes in Europe we write it exactly like that. American would write month/day/year. His lighter just confirmed that he is German. He had Austrian made. American would use Zippo.

@shawnofdanaukota3843

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@saiien2Also Bob had no injuries like Quinn and Bailey.

The woman screaming in denial over her dead daughter is absolutely heartbreaking.

The B-17 “Sally B” is the only one left flying in Europe. She is stationed in England but tours all over Europe. If there’s ever an air show near you, it might be worth going to. If you’d like a ride on a B-17, you’ll have to cross the pond to the US. The B-17 “ Yankee Lady” still takes passengers. Also the B-29 Superfortress “Doc” is based here in Wichita and also takes passengers. Doc is one of only 2 B-29s still flying. Seats are pricey but it would be a once in a lifetime experience.

That's the thing about war. People you loved and cared about simply never come back. You didn't get things explained as to what happened to them, sometimes they just didn't come back. It's sad but very real.

After Curtis, Rosie became my new favorite. This episode had a nice change of pace as well. Love the reactions Kamilla! ❤

I recommend the movie The Memphis Belle (1990) A movie about a B-17 Flying Fortress crew set to complete 25 missions.

“Real time history” and also “operations room” are both KZread channels who do a breakdown of these missions! Highly recommend to watch it when the videos they do if you can. The famed actor Clarke Gable served in a bomber during the war but not with this bomber group. It’s said that he went on more missions than what is officially written down. They wouldn’t send gable on many missions because of MGM but he would sneak on to planes for missions. 14:50 you probably know this already but this is Jude Law’s son. You can tell because he look EXACTLY like his dad lol. Jude law just copied and pasted basically.

@McPh1741

4 ай бұрын

The Operations Room" is a great channel. Their breakdown of every operation is so good.

@jakesanchez7235

4 ай бұрын

@@McPh1741one of my personal favorite channels! The maps, breakdowns, explanations of things are awesome! I love the current Iraq stuff they’re doing now!

@miguelpineiros1567

4 ай бұрын

Reel history does a great job giving additional info

@SpitFir3Tornado

4 ай бұрын

Think you mean Reel History (as in film reel), Dr Frederick's videos make excellent companions to this series.

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

Jimmy Stewart also served during the War, flying B-24 Liberators with the 445th Bomb Group. Charles Lindbergh also assisted with the War effort, however due to...concerns about him possibly being a Nazi sympathizer they didn't want him anywhere NEAR Europe, so they shipped him to the Pacific instead. Lindbergh helped solve many of the teething problems of the P-38 lightning, particularly by teaching the pilots how to properly manage the engines to both improve their range, and prevent them from blowing the engines with improper fuel mixture settings. Despite being a civilian, (he was denied reinstatement into the military due to his close contacts with Nazi officials) Lindbergh participated in combat while flying with the 475th Fighter Group, including the shooting down of a Japanese fighter (the Army grounded him after that incident). He also flew Corsairs with the Marines, and helped develop the aircraft into one of the best ground attack aircraft in the American arsenal, demonstrating the F4U could carry up to 4000 pounds of bombs (one 2000 pounder on the centerline, and a pair of 1000 pounders on the "knuckle" of each wing).

Robert "Rosie" Rosenthal was a qualified lawyer starting his first job as a Lawyer when war was declared. He was at Thorpe Abbots nearly a month before his first mission but when egan and others saw him training ( can't remember if it was Egan or Cleven). They immediately said I want you on my wing.

That conversation over telephone is pretty much the exact conversation bucky had with base. Think the starting lineup refers to the original Crews as well

It was a good way to kill off a major character since that is how it often happened. The plane was shot down and the crew wasn't heard from again.

Yep, they did. My wife's 2nd cousin made 25 missions as a gunner in a B-17.

Kamilla’s tearful moment is just so cute!

The Ball Turret Gunner has to get out of the turret and put his chute on to bail out. It was rare for a gunner to fit in the ball with his chute on. So no, Baby Face did not make it.

You are now experiencing the same emotions so many of these men felt...their friends don't come back...are they dead? Are they POWs? Are they creeping through the French countryside? They DIDN'T know! It's obvious the show runners know exactly what their are doing by your reaction. I love your reactions...hang in. The coaster is just getting rolling. Peace.

I was a teen in the 80s and really like - individual dependant - long straight early 70s hair, feathered 70/80s hair and big 80s hair. With that disclaimer, I kove the 40s hairstyles on the actresses. They're too complex to make a comeback with contemporary women, but shows like this prove contemporary young ladies would look astounding with them.

"Bob" wrote the date in the European standard (day, then month) instead of the American standard (month, then day). The only way to pass the test would be to have an actual immigrant from America who immigrated in the late 30s. Cultures change very fast. The CIA tried infiltrating Chinese nationals into Communist China, but had to give up. Its spies were always caught or had to run. In one case, a spy had to run, because the way to identify the directions of the compass had subtly changed in Communist China in the time he had been living in Taiwan.

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

He also had an Austrian-made lighter, (not the Zippos Americans carried) talked about visiting London even though Bailey told the interrogator they never had enough leave time to do so, and sang the National Anthem with considerably more patriotic fervor than the two actual Americans.

@Mrwhomeyou

4 ай бұрын

It makes perfect sense, Chinese history is filled with using spies, and 1940-60 Communist China was 100% at the top of their game in both conventional and unconventional, spy warfare

The Guide depicted helping Quinn and Bailey from Belgium to Paris (and beyond) is Micheline Aline Dumon code names Lily and Michou. She was a member of the Comet line arguably the busiest escape route of the war and she helped over 250 allied airmen personally from Belgium/France to Spain. She was actually 22 at the time but dressed like a teenager or school girl to avoid a lot of attention from the Germans and not arouse suspicion.

When you finish this series, you should watch the movies "Kongens nei" and "9. April" if you haven't already. Gives a norwegian and Danish perspective on the begining of the war.

It sucks when you lose friends. but there is nothing you can do. and you have to go back out again. the war doesn't stop when someone dies, no matter how much we wish it would. The guys it affects hardest might get a mission off, but everyone else must get back out there. Everyone reacts differently to a loss.

I enjoyed this series greatly. I think you will also as you move forward. These were extraordinary men who truly paved the way for the men on the ground as this war continued also. Thanks for sharing, and I hope to see the next episode with you!

Spotting an infiltrator is usually a bunch of little mistakes on their part. The British Armed Forces have a series of little distinctions between unites and forces that draw the attention of anyone in that unit. Basically, this is why you are told how to tie a tie, how to lace your shoes and boots, how to wear a watch, and what words to use to describe specific things, even. ID documents have tell-tales on them ( not part of the text or picture ) that are not easily spotted by counterfeiters, vehicles have small items lying around that tell the guards whether they are allowed in, etc. This usually defeats infiltrators, but not always.

Bucky was actually on the receiving end of a bombing in London. Research was impeccable

"Bob" was exposed as a German by a number of things during his interrogation and afterwards, which you can catch if you pay close attention: 1. He talks about visiting London, even though Bailey points out they don't get long enough leave to make the trip. 2. While Bailey and Quinn both boredly sing the Star Spangled Banner, "Bob" sings it with patriotic gusto. 3. One of the most damning: "Bob" writes the date in the European Style as Day / Month / Year. Americans write the date as Month / Day / Year 4. When asked for a light, Bob doesn't have the American-made Zippo lighters American airmen would carry. He uses a type that was manufactured in AUSTRIA. The most famous B-17 is Memphis Belle, widely-known as the first American bomber to complete her 25-mission tour of duty. Except she WASN'T. Two other bombers actually completed their tours before her: The first was a B-24 Liberator operating in Naples named Hot Stuff, which completed her 25 missions in February, 1943. She flew six more before the Army decided to send her back home for a War Bond tour. Unfortunately, she crashed in Iceland en route to the US, killing all but one of her passengers and crew (the tail gunner was the sole survivor). Among the dead was General Frank M. Andrews, American commander of the European Theater of Operations. His death would create a vacancy filled by some guy named Eisenhower... The second was an Eighth Air Force B-17 named Hell's Angels, which completed her 25 missions on May 14, 1943. However, because the Army found her name...problematic from a marketing perspective, they decided instead to honor Memphis Belle, which completed her 25th mission three days later, on May 17. Hell's Angels would go on to complete FORTY-EIGHT missions. Even more astonishingly, she did so having never lost a crewman in combat. She would ultimately meet the ignominious fate shared by hundreds of thousands of other military aircraft built by the United States during the War in a scrapper's yard. Memphis Belle's fame was also boosted by the fact she had a film crew aboard for her 24th mission, taking footage for a famous documentary on the War effort (Memphis Belle: A Story of a Flying Fortress). She survives to this day, housed in a museum in Memphis. Life expectancy of a bomber crew was 6 weeks. There were a LOT of Polish ex-patriots like the husband of Egan's one night stand who served with the Royal Air Force after their country fell to the Nazis, most famously No. 303 Squadron, one of the most successful fighter squadrons in the Battle of Britain. Lemmons' actions to fix Cleven's #3 engine by riding in the wheel well ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN, though it wasn't Cleven's plane, and not on the Bremen mission.

Ken Lemmons did actually fix a plane exactly that way but was another plane and another mission. Absolutely amazing bit of engineering / mechanics being able to do that

Amazing. The series is heartbreaking but would be even more so if we were there at the time. The world was coming apart and they were bravely trying to put it back together. It's great to see this with a fresh set of actors and a new generation experiencing this story for the first time - as heartbreaking as it is (was).

Just some of Bob's mistakes. The way he sang the anthem- a very proud and German way and likely learnt all the verses The way he wrote the date - European/RoW way (although the USAAF did sometimes use European way during this time) His lighter - was an Austrian Brand not a Zippo. London and other key locations - agents were trained to research and learn about key locations to describe them - but as Bailey said it was at least a 2 day pass and he never had one. Sports - he probably screwed up the sports question. Also he seemed very clean/unmarked for a guy that bailed out a plane. You didn't have to get every question right etc mistakes probably were made but the amount of things Bob did it was a red flag to a bull.

since youre doing B17 stuff, any chance you will react to memphis belle? 🤫

You are going to love 5th episode 😘

Great Reaction like always, The were a few give aways of the infiltrator. Firstly how he wrote the date rest of the world way not american way. Now military did sometimes write it that way as well but he also wrote his 1's and 9's the german way. Secondly the anthem he messed up some of the lyrics , he also sang all of it which not everyone would know like quinn they ended up humming, thirdly the way he sang it was like the german way he had been taught loud and proud. We didnt get some of his answers to other questions but its possible he answered the london one as it was part of their infiltration research to learn about large places And the final confirmation for the resistance was the guys lighter. It was an austrian made lighter/brand when nigh on every american would have had a zippo. Keep up the good work

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

Messing up the lyrics wasn't the giveaway, because even Americans might often mess them up. However, knowing the additional verses WOULD be, since it's almost never sung past the first in America.

If these guys had had high school Spanish, they would have heard the word ticket.

keep in mind, this story is based on true events and actual people. you can't just pick and choose who lives and who dies. there is what really happened, and you have to work with that. Your reaction is the same as those who served. Sometimes no one saw what happened, and they were left as baffled and wanting to know what happened, same as you. Often times you'd be waiting for guys to return, and you'd hear something happened. And the anticipation of waiting to see who got hurt/killed was unbearable. Sometimes the news turned out better than expected, but sometimes it ended up being far worse than you hoped. War is an ugly business. it's also a numbers game. I always preferred to be on mission with the guys when something bad happened, and know what is going on, and being there with them, than to have a mission off and have to wait and wonder, wanting to go rescue them but can't, while you wait helplessly. But one of those times, not being on a mission actually saved my life.

Are you going to cry every episode? Yes. If it helps any, this tv series actually softens things a lot. The regensberg-schweinfurt raid was a failure and had the highest US aircrew casualties of the war (meanwhile, far bigger British air raids regularly incurred losses 4 times greater than US losses - but for better results). On top of that the deaths of Curtis Biddick and his crew were so horrific - and not as portrayed in this tv series - that even german pilots, interviewed many years later, remembered it. The oxygen tanks under the cockpit caught fire and Biddick's co-pilot climbed out of the cockpit and stood on the burning wing for a while before the plane exploded. Everyone who saw it and survived - on both sides - reported the "man on the burning wing". At least two german pilots stopped attacking the formation after seeing that.

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

IIRC, Biddick was also trying to keep the plane from slamming into a village as it went down.

@tileux

4 ай бұрын

@@Ambaryerno No, he didnt do that. As soon as the fire started he ordered everyone to bail out. But the forward crew were trapped by the fire and none survived. Its not possible to know what Biddick was doing before the plane exploded but given he would likely have burned to death before that its unlikely he was worrying about villages on the ground and no mention of that was made by any of the surviving crew. The exact location of the last sighting of Escape Kit was noted by a number of navigators and I doubt Biddick was worried about german villagers.

Life was too short not to approach girls bluntly :)

What exactly is a “hot minute”?

"So stand by your whiskey glass steady. The world is just a web of lies. Here's a toast to us, dead already! Hurrah for the next man who dies..." Song of the WW1 fighter pilots

Oh...yes...the twists and turns of a miniseries 😔😫 hang in there, kami😊👍

I really liked this show, but it wasn’t B.O.B. or The Pacific, but with that said it had its own charm. A friend of mine was watching as well and we compared notes he was like “Damn man, I dunno how to feel, I know it’s historical fact that these guys could go up in their first time out and not come back, and just as soon as you get to know them BAM, they’re dead!”Which is kind of true, the mortality rates amongst the USAAF between 1942-1945 was about 46%. It wasn’t until the P-51 Mustang showed up in mid 1944 that casualty rates begin to decline.

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

The first long-range escort flight by the P-51 Mustang was during the Big Week raids at the end of February, 1944.

A lot of favorite characters didn't make it , on all sides of that war. I shouldn't be here to be making comments. I'm 68, youngest son. My father flew as navigator in B-29's in the Pacific against the Japanese. On one mission they lost both engines on one wing, one to flak, one to an accidental ram by a Japanese fighter, which knocked the enigine off the wing. Took the pilot, co- pilot and flight engineer 20,000 feet of altitude to re- learn how to fly the plane in that condition. They got back to Tinian in ground effect, right over the wave tops. And losing the weight of that second engine, and their skill is why I'm sitting here typing this comment.

The Comet line depicted here was infiltrated and partly broken a few times during the war. Never completely, though. Out of 3000 'helpers' 700 were arrested by the Germans and 290 died in prison or concentration camps. Overall it helped 776 people escape. It was also famous for besides financial assistance and occasional agent and supplies of turning down assistance and not wanting to be controlled by the British or Belgian government in exile.

@stevetheduck1425

4 ай бұрын

Resistance groups that let one DeGaulle know about them went on a list for after the war. He never forgot or forgave people who did not obey him alone.

@jameswg13

4 ай бұрын

@stevetheduck1425 wtf you on about. The Comet line was famously a cross country effort and mainly belgian. Also famously a group that focused on escape etc and nothing else. For security and freedom besides some guidance they never would have anyone control them.

Kamilla thirsting for romance is always cute. Ha!

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they guy they shot wrote the date in the European manner...

Americans write date as Month, day, year. 4/3/2024. Germans write Day, Month, Year: 3/4/2024. And yeah, every episode will probably make you cry. War is hell. Hooah.

Lovely job Ms. K --->>> Perhaps we should visit the dentist more often? 😎😎😎 Gracias, Hermosa .. ..

@Centane

4 ай бұрын

why would u want me to go through that again 😭😭😭

@Samminish

4 ай бұрын

@@Centane I apologize .. .. Forgive me .. .. Have a lovely week!

The date is importent because in Europ they right the date different dd/mm/yy then in America mm/dd/yy. That and the lighter gave the Germen away.

Ya can count the # of disappointing projects Speilberg has done on one little finger ... of course the CGI leaves a lot ( check ' 12 O' clock High' from 949 , with real combat film.). but this is good stuff. I'm old , 2 of my uncles flew in Euro, my dad was a mechanic in pacific. different times for sure.

May I suggest you a Movie to React… In Spanish with English subtitles: Sociedad de las Nieves / Society of the Snow (2023) Directed by Juan Antonio Bayona

Cgi crap. Used real planes in "Memphis Belle"

@Ambaryerno

4 ай бұрын

And just where are they going to get them? There are only six airworthy B-17s, all but one of them are B-17Gs, inappropriate for the time period most of the series covers. There are NO flyable Ju-88s anywhere in the world. In fact there's only two PERIOD. There's exactly ONE Fw-190 that still flies, and it's an F model used for ground attack, not the Antons that were the principle interceptor in 1943 and 1944, before the introduction of the Dora. Of the flyable Bf-109s, the VAST majority aren't even 109s. They're Hispano HA-1109 and 1112 Buchons, VERY obviously distinguished from the true 109s by their use of Merlin engines instead of the DB60X inverted V engines. Of the true 109s, almost all of the airworthy examples are Emils, which are much too early a type for the Strategic Bombing Campaign of 1943 - 1944, (these were used during the Battle of Britain) which would have predominantly been Gustavs (of which there is only one airworthy example) and, towards the end of the War, Kurfursts (no survivors). It would simply not be feasible to try using real aircraft for this series. The insurance costs ALONE would be astronomical, and the aircraft simply DO NOT EXIST in sufficient numbers to make filming with them practical. Also, Memphis Belle primarily used conventional models for the combat scenes. The real planes were used for only a few shots.

@lw3918

4 ай бұрын

@Ambaryerno I worked with the group that modified the 5 B-17 G's into F's and back for "Memphis Belle" I have a doctorate in military history specializing in WW2. I'm a member of an organization that rebuilds warbirds. I can't stand cgi crap and inaccurate movies about the war. That's all Hollywood does now is cgi crap.

I don't understand why that people cry over movies and games lol. Last time I cried over a movie was I was 7, I cried over E.T because he was dying, since then I've never cried over a movie or game.😂😂

To fully understand the 100th Bomb Group you have to watch Twelve O Clock High, if you are a movie scholar.