Just knew Wehliye today and he has totally dismantled Ahmednasir. Best show I have enjoyed in a while

Seeing Grand Mulla getting schooled, roasted and outsmarted in every possible by Wehliye makes a man wonder..."Did he really think that he is the only learned Somali in town?"

@mohameddahir2149

2 жыл бұрын

There a more somalis educated than weheliye and the grand mullah.

@wafiworld1

2 жыл бұрын

After 27 minutes of watching... I beg to disagree. Grand Mulla still holding his position. Not outsmarted. But let me watch to the end.

@jamez5712

2 жыл бұрын

@@wafiworld1 still think he wasn't outsmarted in the end?

@africangirl189

18 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂

The way this channel conducts debate is mature and educative

Dr. Weleyi beat Ahmadnassir hands down. Point by point and calm without interruptions

Kudos #SpiceFM for this space, you are redefining conversations and shaping narratives!

This is the best conversation that should prevail in the country, sobriety at work

There is something momentous here that many seem to miss. Here are two accomplished Somali Kenyans (whose community was hitherto at the periphery of national discourse) intellectually debating and influencing national politics of the day. Though Ahmednasir may disagree, Kenya has made great strides on matters inclusivity.

@rizikimichelle5885

2 жыл бұрын

There’s nothing wrong with Kenyan Somalis making political decisions for themselves and their community . I don’t see why we have to keep on mentioning it all the time yet they are just as Kenyan as everyone else . It’s a complete non issue for them to have political opinions. Why mention their ethnicity?

@KipChes

2 жыл бұрын

@@rizikimichelle5885 you missed the point

@garissacommunityjournalist2765

2 жыл бұрын

This is elite representation.

@halimaissack4719

2 жыл бұрын

Very true 👍

I love this show and station as well

I am very surprised that there are people in Kenya who hold so much hate for Raila that they can not give him credit even when it due.

@halimaissack4719

2 жыл бұрын

So sad

We need another interview with these two on how the current govt is progressing

Four people against one, ahamednasir you are a real man

@rasputin7323

2 жыл бұрын

It's not four against one, It's three four calling out ahamednasir on his bull shit.

Now it's four against one, bure sana hii spice radio

Both mulla and wehliye were excellent in their contexts,contributions and ideas of each supporting his own political incumbent .Always there is differences of choice,taste and preference be moderate in comments of upgrading and downgrading one of them

I enjoy this program because it brings elevated mature debate and content.

Ahmednasir, he has two balls like Raila has been, he can be on opposition too, nobody stopping him.

I have never seen anyone who makes Ahmed loose his cool than wehliye. Compare the jkl shows that makau mutual is a heckler and Ahmed is the cool head, today Ahmed is the new makau mutua

@onasisthegreat1946

2 жыл бұрын

Very true Waliye is the calm one

Even though the heated debate was fierce and special of its own kind, the final proverb by Doctor Muga 'kawaida ni sheria' illustrates the norm of outcome in elections in Kenya

"Hapa hakuna extinguisher" 👏👏👏 I'm glad I'm not the only one who is tired of the juvenile, sensationalist spectacles like jkl being force fed to us by mediocre media houses as intellectual discourse in place of interviews such as these.

Great economicst ,thanks to giving them way of living.

Thank you Hamednersir you have the potential to help kenya the others are poor in mind.

Difference between first term of Jubilee and second term is that unlike in the first term, there is no mega corruption in the 2nd term… and the mitigating factor is Handshake

@onasisthegreat1946

2 жыл бұрын

Because you don't know what you're talking about from eurobond, sacking of almost half CS, SGR

@AnalystTosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@onasisthegreat1946 I think you’re the one who doesn’t know what he is talking about

@davincimaths9492

2 жыл бұрын

I tell people that Uhuru's government was followed by corruption after corruption until he had to spit the thief Ruto. He is now able to attend to clear cartels: coffee price is now 100per kg and rising, KMC famers are getting paid on time. Raila deserves a chance to sweep these thieves from our economy

@AnalystTosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@davincimaths9492 the only Mega scandal in his 2nd term was the KEMSA thing… in the first term it was scandal after scandal courtesy of Sugoi man.. Sasa ananunulia watu wheelbarrow na hizo pesa

@timothykiptoo3571

2 жыл бұрын

How about kemsa

Grand Mullah kudos adeer

After listening to the discussion and views expressed by members of of the panel, it comes out very clearly that Amednasir has a special relationship with Ruto and UDA. He doesn’t accept that, but his views and hate for Raila is so personal that he does not see the role Raila has played in transforming Kenya for the common good. It is very clear that Raila has the capacity to propel Kenya forward for the common good of all Kenyans while Ruto comes out as a dangerous Chiluba like individual who is greedy and aggressive who can do everything possible to destroy political enemies. That view died with Moi, we must entertain political competition in order to assess who is best for Kenya in the most civil manner.

@lukachege6146

2 жыл бұрын

You Just hate Ruto

@halimaissack4719

2 жыл бұрын

Very clear analysis.....

@benlimou5992

Жыл бұрын

its all of them vs Grand Mulla,...why all of them are countering welihye

Nice conservation. Spice

I like the way that guy putt his word his the master of propanda

Bring on board Dr. MM, zoom or any other video conferencing.

Wellihye is yhe bomb

Ahmednasir you're so funny wallahi 🤣 😂

@pmat6861

2 жыл бұрын

wallahi he's so funny 😂😂

Great man

Ahmednasir Abdullahi is on point .

@OBmusic1

2 жыл бұрын

Njererre said it best anyone who wants power at all costs without the peoples mandate shouldn't not be elected. Azimio is a symtom of what fake politics is all about

@mohamedomar2367

2 жыл бұрын

Weheliye mambo yote

I don't understand which school Ahmed went to ?

Hehe SC very slippery guy.We need another rematch .Nice debate

He is a prominent and one of the founding father of UDA...Mnafik mkubwa

Who is the ruler? Hope you get sense in that question

It's really shameful that Ahmednasir is downplaying the gains Kenya has achieved through Raila. I admire the way Welliye is soberly articulating his points.

@proton3362

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you only mention Raila? as if he fought alone!! The likes of Gitobu imanyara,Paul muite ,muturi kigano ,Martha karua fought for multipartism & they don't brag

@gyeboor1270

2 жыл бұрын

Of course

You need to bring these again... Wehliye was right UDA was a movie and just a show 😂😂

Weheliye should prove what was stolen in this country and who?

Raila is loaded for change. He has fought the system all his life. He was instrumental in bringing multiparty politics here. But he deals with politicians who stand for nothing but their stomachs and is sometimes forced to find accomodation in a very politically fluid environment. Some think that his versatility is conmanship but this only because they conviniently ignore the history of the man. Those who understand the man know that it is political dexterity. With his convictions he needed to get a clear path to power to drive the change he has lived for! Wait! Watch and see how Raila changes this country in just 5 years should God give him the opportunity! South Korea and Singapore are his models and that is vision! Ruto stands for no principle and if he does, there is nothing in his history to confirm it. Handouts perhaps? That is the truth. He opposed devolution, BBI and everything that would empower the common man, yet he talks of bottom up. A seriously contradicted personality!

@kennethbutichi6022

2 жыл бұрын

The countries you have named are good examples of how a country can be transformed in a short time where there is clarity of vision among the leadership. one thing you forgot however is the environment within which the transformation took place. unlike Kenya which is excessively litigious these two were constitutoonal dictorships. Nothing was challenged in the courts of law. Kenya may have missed that opportunity of pushing national agenda minus legal hurdles (Moi's time). RAO who I used to support has morphed into unrecognizable fighter for social justice. How I wish he had this opportunity around 2007? let us allow God's will to be done come 9th August

@nurshariff2546

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe dictatorship is gud then?? Av heard kagame being called dictotor n rwanda is thriving🤐

This man wehliye is speaking the naked truth. Ahmednassir is just being too personal

Ahmednassir Abdullahi is engaging in what we term in law as an academic exercise

The likes of Ahmednasir are the people we must always be on the look out for and keep very far from power. They're wheeler dealers. They hate Raila because he has no time for them. With a simple handshake he dismantled their status quo and scattered them in all different directions. With RAO in power they are finished.

Ahmed is scared of death because Raila don't kill. There was a time Ruto people threatened to kill him and he took it very seriously but am sure inside Ahmed heart he loves Raila Odinga period.

I have worked with Somalis for 15yrs and Ahmednasir is not serious...he thinks everyone is just a client and in need of legal representation

Handshake is the worst thing that ever happened in peaceful Kenya, how can two individuals decide for population of Kenya, disregarding every other leader, only invite them on board, only two knows what was discussed in the handshake Rails is one person now ok with the policies of nyayo era, now he can practice the same impunity, today Raila can change nothing, he has abdicated leader of opposition responsibility, as long as a corrupt person is in ODM, he should not be asked, case in point Ngilu as minister, whose rights does Raila stand for, Luo Nyanza haven't experienced what the rest of Kenyan community, though now western Kenya under Atwoli command

Great Economists entire world,

Oh my goodness my this guy abdelnassir hates raila with every fibre of his being, could it be personal? This is dangerous for a person and country at large.

fatanyao or fuata nyayo?

💯🇰🇪

But walie is given alot of airtime to air his views vividly and exhaustively. Don't u see

SC has something personal against Baba and its not in our business to know.The other thing is you should have team up SC Nbdul Nasir with His equals in Politics and Arrogance.Orengo or Prof Nyongo

The Azimio was proper but the fear was the president wish to extend the ruling that was the only problem.nobody ever realized that otherwise the team was fine.

watu wote hapo ni azimio apart from grand mullah

BBI was opposed by Ruto in the court . So court is for Ruto and not for Uhuru.

Ahmed is an intelligent guy only that he doesn’t like Raila as he said! Webiliye same but loves Raila no matter his principles

Seems Ahmed Nasser's problem with Raila is personal and not political or ideological.

@omarm738

2 жыл бұрын

Raila fought Ahmednassir not to be made chair of a “certain” board in the judiciary. So yes you are right, its personal

Grand Mulla Sounds like a politician in a podium.

Ahmed Nasir is intelligent person

Ahmed, We definitely know that you support Ruto. Please stand on your ground .

"Fuata Nyayo" was never an ideology and there is nothing like that in the whole world. it was just a statement

@hezronkinyua5671

2 жыл бұрын

Are you old enough to have recited the loyalty pledge..? Nyayoism was a philosophy of governance

Bottom up ideology is the best concept or idea that has ever come up in Kenya. The ruling class cannot understand it because they are possessed with their own idol worship by the poor whom they use . Raila calls that concept TAKATAKA. Wheelbarrow is but a symbol like orage of ODM.

@westlife9026

2 жыл бұрын

Achana na hiyo mambo yako naniiii

@robertbob4560

Жыл бұрын

Unaskiaje uchumi kiongozi?

What did Mohamed say is absolutely right, working class of Kenyans pay more tax .

weliye was calm and collected,

A new talk show has been established. The other talk show is so kiddish with repeated talkers who are old and tired with stupid fire extinguishers.

Wimbo wa ruto na UDA bonyeza hapa itacheza,...kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoSf0o9sgrHRaLw.html

Many people were part of the fight for change in this country. Attributing it to an individual is a distortion of facts. Some people paid the ultimate prize. If enthroning RAO is the reward we are asked to give (Murathe), what has been done for Dedan Kimathi's family? Matiba's family? Mbai's family? Gitobu Imanyara?

@allenjustice4518

2 жыл бұрын

Your argument is a little bit shallow and pedestal, world over even in revolutions many are involved but you only hear about the leaders, when they succeed only the leader you'll hear of. Martin Luther king Jr is celebrated up to date, was he fighting alone? What of M7, Kagame, Kenyatta 1?

@254NOMAD

2 жыл бұрын

Are those"many people" you are saying seeking for presidency?

@allenjustice4518

2 жыл бұрын

@@254NOMAD always go for the context otherwise you lose the plot

@tukutanechuom3366

2 жыл бұрын

@@allenjustice4518 six thousand shillings can't even buy baba a lunch, what a shame wanting to keep the poor even more poorer with the economic shift happening dunia mzima. Hana sera kupayuka payuka wakisema watamfunga Ruto. Kwani kazi ya akina ORENGO, OMOLLO ETC ni gani hawajawai mpeleka kotini na kumshinda kesi? A whole family for a month yawa? Is that what you call empowering people smh 🚜🚜🚜🚜🚜🍊🍊🍊🍊😂

@tukutanechuom3366

2 жыл бұрын

Azimio itazimia kama NASA tu, BBI iko mortuary haiwezi fufuka tunaizika hivi karibuni. Mtandanganywa hadi lini na baba. The 2nd richest politician after uhunye. Ruto is far behind. Baba mkono gamu kuliko gorilla glue 😂😂

Ahmed, don't panic stand for what you believe .. I knew that Ruto. Is gonna be the fivth president of Kenya.

Mohamed is definitely right. Kenyans, billions never pay tax, but the working class is paying more tax .

If Raila was with those powers.mbona alimfuta ruto kazi na Kibaki akamregesha if alikua na nguvu?.that post was only brought to cool the nation

Who told these people that is only Raila who can be in opposition .... anyone can take that challenge

In words Mohamed is jelous of Baba!

@munafarhan4183

2 жыл бұрын

Who is Mohamed?

How is everyone running away from Azimio, yet opinion polls are suggesting the gap between the leading candidates is narrowing, in favour of Raila?

@kennedypaul3292

2 жыл бұрын

Who is running away from azimio? Few confused Kikuyus like you plus kales are not “Kenyans”

@john_mwaniki

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennedypaul3292 read his comment again and understand don't respond without understanding

Ahmed Nasir kizungu mingi ya urongo mwingi Sana hata mungu haugopi huyu mawakili warongo always 🤣🤣

Wehliye is tired working in Saudi and he is looking 4 a job in Raila,s Goverment,and the guy sitting right to Ahmednassir is purely Raila guy,and the women asks very question when it comes to hand shake

Under Uhuru and Ruto undermistrtion , it was like Billions to be more rich and poor to be more poor

Ahmed. Uko poa

Ahmad says he has favorable views of Ruto but has not decided to support him. So Mr Wehelite what is your problem ?

Four against one,abdnassir is very right

But every time Raila was given a chance he performed better. It is in the public domain.

I can understand now how those Pakistani TV commenters start throwing tables at one another

Ahmednasir is on point

@kennedypaul3292

2 жыл бұрын

Expected from kariuki

Ahmednasir mtu wa mko wa Ruto.

at some point the lady got bored and dozed off. . .

I see a teacher and students that come to learn but got poor listening skills.

The further backward you look the further forward you are likely to see, looking back ruto track record shows disastrous, run away corruption

The Grand Mullah is intellectually more mature than the other guy.

Ahmed Nasir needs to get his tongue checked..Its really fucked..He has changed every word in the dictionary..

Wewe Ahmed Unashida kubwa sana unasema umeamua kuto unga Azimio mkono na auja amua kuonga UDA Ahmed unajichanganya farasi ni mbili Ahmed Acha Uwoga Acha Mchecheto wewe ni RUTO na RUTO ni Wewe Eti auja Amua DANGANYA TOTO. Round hii ni BABA RUTO lazima APANGWE ATAKE ASITAKE ATAPANGWA na ATA Duuuuuuuuu.!

I went to Alliance High School. Am Petroleum and Minerals Engineer. I never knew fools are given platforms.

@alhajikenya6335

2 жыл бұрын

Hi engineer, can u mentor someone from alliance too?

@honestlyfreeddreams9135

2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you go there and represent you r Intellect.Smart people never claim their Intelligence.Wacha kujipigia Debe.

@carolinekasiemeka9848

Жыл бұрын

@@honestlyfreeddreams9135 Hauoni jina he is a Sudanese

@1:00:00 is the disgrace of all disgraces. And the absurd unintentional admission that azimio la umoja or UDA kenyans are a cooked goose.

Nasir is jst for uda.talking about people running from Azimio you're wrong.uda imejaza wakale

Ahamed controlled the show. The rest are on a lower league. Despite team work

@kennedypaul3292

2 жыл бұрын

You watched your own things kalejinga

@veronicaachieng8652

2 жыл бұрын

Hate will take u no where at the end .

Huyo macho nne n Fala adi hajielewi.

SC Ahmednasir is such a great thinker and debater..kudozBut the panel seems not to operate on the same level😂

Ahmednasir, as chief justice under UDA government. I don't know or understand why he don't like baba .

@sheve5097

2 жыл бұрын

Let me guess. Baba orchestrated nullification of presidential elections, then boycotted re-election then sworw himself in based on a nullified election 🙄

This time round Ahmednasir failed..always thinking he is the only one that knows it all

Williey is off the rail. Changing parties is OK, but breaking party after party is RAO's MO. 2007 he caused chaos got nusu mkate. 2013 claimed he was rigged despite having nusu mkate by people bila tothi 2017 caused mandamano got handshake. 2022 now BBI, reggae state.

According to Ahmednasir, Ruto represents the wind of change? 😂 😂

@njuenjagi4983

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine

@AnalystTosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@njuenjagi4983 😂 joke of the century

@lukachege6146

2 жыл бұрын

He represents the wind of change from Dynasties who have controled Kenya for ages

@AnalystTosh

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukachege6146 😂😂😂 I pitty my country

Grand Mullah is thick, whatever he says does not make sense to laymen and the intellectuals.

Who doesn't know Ahmed nasir heates Raila with all his heart. Yuko na kiburi nyingi sana ata yuko tayari kutoa million Raila akishindwaa forgetting that Almighty God gives whoever he wants. Peleka pesa yako ficha ndani ya nyumba yako.

Fact! Ahmednasir..is strategic..and I like it. He is 6months ahead of everyone in panel.repesenting UDA in court after election. Grandmulla !.. am sure he wishes election to be held today before ruto's run out money rig