The lightly stamped name on the replaced wood handle appears to end in "Hardware", which may have been the retailer's mark. Maybe Bob's Hardware? M.H Cole's book US Military Knives III indicates that the C.T. marking was added to note the change of construction to the pommel being integral with the tang. This was probably a simplification of manufacturing rather than a statement of quality. They also had a black finish rather than blued and scabbard catch omitted. If you have not done one yet, a video on the various scabbards would inform the novice collector. The transition from the leather versions to the M-1910 and later M3 and M7s is part of the story. There are also two types of the WW 1 M-1917, and the plastic version made for WW2.

@bilgeratmilitaria

10 ай бұрын

Excellent comment! Thank you for watching. Since doing the video about a year ago I have since learned/realized it said hardware instead of a last name and felt real dumb for not noticing it sooner 🤦. As far as the types of the WWI M1917's you have the Springfield and Rock Island for the M1903 and then you have the Remington and Winchester (also British proof and non British proof) for the M1917 and trench guns...am I missing any others?

My grandad died not to long ago, me and my family went to help clear up the house because someone wanted to buy it, and in the attic I found a First World War bayonet dated 1917, ever since then I have collected army surplus from the 20th century

@bilgeratmilitaria

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss! But I'm glad you were able to find something of his to hang on to and even start your own collection from that piece. That's something you should always hang on to!

I'm not surprised that the bolo 1917 came from a veteran who served in the Philippines. The bolo is originally a Philippine weapon or farming tool.

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

I just wish I could see a snippet of it's history...like a little movie trailer lol. Same goes for all of these items.

@georgebenta3435

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilgeratmilitaria Sometimes I think of that too, to see a snippet of history. I have an original m1905 bayonet in relic condition, the tip is damaged and there is a slight bend to the blade. I'm from the Philippines and I can only imagine it may have killed a Japanese soldier.

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgebenta3435 That's awesome, I'd bet that it probably has! I have very few relic condition items but I want to get into collecting more of them. Finding anything U.S. made in relic condition available for sale here in the states is near impossible. But German and Russian Relic condition items are all over the place

@georgebenta3435

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilgeratmilitaria Here it's the opposite, almost all ww2 items are in relic condition, barn finds, battlefield pickup/ battlefield grave dug(specially for Japanese relics), or really used or repurposed after the war. That is why you're lucky to own a 1917 bolo, it's a miracle it left the Philippines. I think it's very rare to see a US bolo here in any condition because they are really used and sought after.

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgebenta3435 I'd love to score some relic condition M1905 bayonets or really any U.S. Relic weapons! 😂. That's so crazy. The M1917 Bolo's are very common here especially in ebay, GunBroker and gun shows but they are getting pretty damn expensive these days

I have a bayonet that I cannot find on any identification guides. I’ve looked at over 500 pics and have had no luck. Is there any way that I could send you a pic of it? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man, of course. I can't promise any results but I'll definitely take a look and see if I can help. You can email me at the email listed on my about info on my KZread page

m1917 bolos from ww1 were reissued during ww2 to the marines to supplement the ww2 u.s.m.c. bolos because of the high demand and use for them. alot of people especially on youtube call the ww2 marine corps bolos medical bolos and say they were used by corpsman NO they were marine corps bolos for marines!!! could corpsman have carried them as well yes its possible.

@bilgeratmilitaria

Жыл бұрын

Well that makes sense! Especially since the Marines at Guadalcanal used M1903's and the M1917 Browning Machine Gun

Ser i have that kind of sword bayonet if you Are intrested to buy

I found two that where forgotten in a safe that came with my house. One is in very good condition. The other is in fare to good condition. Thought of sharpening one and using it as a machete. But before I do, are they worth anything?

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

Before you so that, which knife/Bayonet did you find? Haha. They might be worth some $$

@stephangrobler5524

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilgeratmilitaria they are 1907 British Wilkinsons.

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephangrobler5524 I'd say the good condition one could be worth 100-200 if it has a scabbard!

@stephangrobler5524

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilgeratmilitaria wow ok. Could you suggest a platform where one could sell it? Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephangrobler5524 I'd say eBay, GunBroker.com, or a FB group dedicated to WWI selling/trading, Bayonets or British Military stuff. And just to absolutely make sure...they don't have the two grooves carved out in the handle or any American markings on them at all?

How much prices that vionet

From phillipines i have kind of sword bayonet. Ii found cave if you interested riply me..

Nice shame your m1917 doesn't have original handles mines cracked to hell but its original

@bilgeratmilitaria

3 жыл бұрын

The M1917 Bolo? Yeah man, I wish it was an original grip for sure but the name/serial number carvings definitely adds some character to it. Especially it most likely being a WWII modification. Some day I'll grab another one with original grips. Thanks for watching! I appreciate it.

@osbornthegreatandpowerful7638

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilgeratmilitaria How can you tell if the handle is original? I saw a really similar bayonet in another video, was wondering if it was original.

@osbornthegreatandpowerful7638

2 жыл бұрын

This video, for reference: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqeapNKOhru8e5c.html

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

The handle is original on my M1917 bayonets but not on the M1917 Bolo Knife. The big clues that tell me they've been replaced is that it's a different color, doesn't have the same texture as the original and the screws are different/replaced.

Teach me more knife daddy

@imSt1rfry

3 жыл бұрын

What he said

@imSt1rfry

3 жыл бұрын

You had me at 16 inches

@bilgeratmilitaria

3 жыл бұрын

I hate both of you 😂😂😂

How much prices that vionet

@bilgeratmilitaria

2 жыл бұрын

All of the Bayonets in this video can be found fairly easily on eBay in the $100-300 range depending on quality or if they have the scabbard.