Their rep told me they are killing the product after the 1-2 units they have on Amazon US are sold out. They said they will come out with a new printer but not many details. I think you got the first version and the review came too late in their product lifecycle. So instead of saying "don't bother with the review we are killing the product " they just said we are stopping cooperation. Were they the one that said "have a good life!"???

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

They there the have a good life people lol that’s really interesting!! But I’d just wished that they had been honest…

I was never able to get the 3DChameleon to work with it... the start with a "good working printer" requirement in step #1 of our installation has never been met. I bought two of them, and neither one will even allow us to get a full test print. I gave up on it when the Flashforge A5M came out at $299... that's the totally opposite experience... it prints so beautifully at almost half the price of the Bambu that we replaced our entire print farm with them.

Mine has been working flawlessly aside from me melting plastic around the hotend. I put a haldis bambu e3d clone in it, and it's been printing again. I did upgrade the firmware when I got it. That does suck that you can't get it working. I figured I would put a bigtreetech board in it in the future if any of the brains fail. I did however cancel the enclosure after realizing for $159 bucks the enclosure didn't include the camera, then the camera is also pretty expensive. I definitely wasn't going to drop $200 on the enclosure. I was thinking $99 with camera. I can make the enclosure for about $25 and that includes insulation. Anyway, oh well.

Wow, hard to believe they wanted you to just give up on it after spending a lot of time. Unfortunately you won't know about the other machine until you try it. It could be awesome? Maybe if you start to run into any issues, you just stop.

That's a shame. I do like to see smaller companies breaking into the market with new machines as there can be innovation in the process or it helps to bring the buyers costs down and gives more choice. Thanks for your honesty Sam, you gotta say it like it is!

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

I hate having to trash stuff, but I gave them a fair opportunity

@3DPFactory1

21 күн бұрын

@TheRealSamPrentice Would be interesting if this prompts a response. Shame it would take that though.

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

@@3DPFactory1 I’d love to have a second bite at this one, but time ticked on and well… I’m not waiting a year to fix

Hey Sam , I’ve noticed bambo and clones building platforms 256, wishing a little bigger, any new printers coming soon 300 building platforms .

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

So k1 max 300x300 the k2 plus is 350x350 the Arco is 300x300

@SirLANsalot

21 күн бұрын

The K2 with its MMU system is the "clone" that you want to see as it IS doing something different then just copying something on the market already. With a 350x350 and color printing, that is doing something Bambu hasn't done yet, which is large(er) scale printing. 300x300 is starting to pick up as the new standard for new generation printers to come out as a means of standing out against the prior gen printers.

@thelees1000

21 күн бұрын

ender 3 v3 plus - 300x300

Total shame because it had some promise with its unique Trident like z axis. The abandonment of the product is...sad. I had a mixed experience with the machine but it definitely performed well and its issues (in my case) were all the kind that could have been resolved with some more time spent in firmware. But like I said in the review…we shouldn’t have to fix the firmware issues on new machines. It was almost like it went out too early.

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

$100 and a p1p is my issue, I’ve had good experiences with Bambu and when I get issues like the ones I’ve had here, then support is all by non existent just think how a new person into 3d printing would deal with that experience having spent the money out. Products that are out of box failures like this one need to be highlighted otherwise you’re just going to have people with a dim view of the hobby. I guess is anything perfect tho ?

@3DPrintSOS

21 күн бұрын

@@TheRealSamPrentice Im totally agreeing with you. This is why Bambu deserves their flowers. They are legit pushing the industry to do better from a User Experience standpoint and being anything less doesnt cut it.

Great insights, this had so much potential too 😔

OMG, That is terrible... maybe not opening that laser machine from them.

I wouldn't even bother getting or suggesting the P1P from Bambu when the P1S is just 100 bucks more and its enclosed already. Even if your going to print just PLA, enclosed helps prevent warps from random crossbreezes. Also the P1P is not compatible with the AMS system and the upgrade to convert a P1P into a P1S is 50 bucks more then if you had just gotten the P1S from the start. Open Framed Core X/Y systems are.....stupid....from the start, cheaper yes but not worth the savings. Your going to be printing at high speeds, you need the means to cool the print down via aux coolers, and open framed just makes all that airflow, escape and lost focus on the print at hand, not to mention that the P1P doesn't have and aux cooling fan to begin with.

@bradleyliebl2931

20 күн бұрын

The P1P does work with the AMS I have a P1P and the AMS and it works great! You are correct though it makes more sense getting the P1S. If you buy the AMS with the P1S you get $100 off the AMS so the P1P and P1S come out the same price if you buy the AMS. I have 2 P1S's and a P1P, the P1S are nice and print so good, I have not had a filament I have tried that didn't work. Although the P1P is quieter, I have it in my house and only print PLA and my P1S's print filaments that are not good for in the house. I also have a A1 with the AMS lite, and both it and the P1P are pretty quiet.

I just updated to the just released 4.27 firmware and it prints great. Yeah, it's no Bambu but its got great bones and its a good project printer. It's definitely not plug and play. It's more like play and play.

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

What issues have you had? This was an early version so they might have come on a bit since then.. but.. yeah

@fintiki80

21 күн бұрын

Where did you get this firmware?

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

@@fintiki80 maybe app.mediafire.com/am1vobpv31uhk

@fintiki80

21 күн бұрын

@@TheRealSamPrentice I think thats quite old one. I'm running this one and its quite a lot better: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JM2gA93x0mIbvakIqz4xMgtAsC_MX9VG

@Chrissi33004

21 күн бұрын

@@TheRealSamPrenticealways nice when a company uses mediafire instead of properly hosting the files on their website. It’s a red flag

I wouldn't chuck it. Looks like a nice challenge to mod it as to fix the problems. Make 'rat rig' out of it. Figuratively speaking.

Twotrees hardware and build quality is solid for the price but the stock firmware is absolultely terrible. Got an OG sapphire plus v1 on FB marketplace, it was a steal but had to compile my own fork of Marlin for it to make it work. It prints amazing now (currently at 500mm/s without any problems) but definetly wouldn't buy TT unless you OK with making your own firmware and mods without any support.

It's worth a look but is it worth your time and effort?

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

Not when there is 0 content to be had, if of liked to put it up against the p1p run speed and quality tests and so on. The good points are around open source but… yeah

TwoTrees always launches project level printers, with a clear "Fire and forget" product strategy. Same mistakes they made with the Sapphire Pro and Plus... Usually decent hardware, terrible SW and implementation. Inexistent support.

oof, that's a bummer...

I don’t get why we’re still bothering with these companies who have not released a single reliably working printer. Bonus points for actually innovating (they only copy). Ending the support for this printer half a year after release just says everything. Don’t bother with them

Would be good if you spend more time talking about the actual problems instead of just saying: it is bad don't buy it.

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

Well as I stated the function of printing it didn’t do, there are a number of issues with the firmware which they promised to follow up on. It didn’t level therefore I was unable to print, tons of bugs and unfortunately cheap component parts.

@pyrhockz

21 күн бұрын

Omg 6 minutes in I still have no idea what the problem is.

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

@@pyrhockz main issue are firmware and non levelling, you can’t print if you can’t level it’s that simple.

@bthatguy1181

18 күн бұрын

Problem? China.

I've been waiting for this one...unfortunately.

@TheRealSamPrentice

19 күн бұрын

As I say you might get a good one, that seems to be many manufacturers talent of course :) this was an early one, however in my experience it tends to be the way many manufacturers work and just ignore the issues.

@mojee3d

19 күн бұрын

@@TheRealSamPrentice from what I’ve seen, it doesn’t seem like an isolated issue. Many appear to be having a whole host of issues with the SK1.

The real questiomn is not why they cancelled the cooperation, but why there is one in the first place. Ideally a reviewer will buy the unit incognito with their own money, to prevent being sent a special unit or getting special support. edit However in this case the fact that they can't even fix a problem they're sponsoring, indicates that this manufacturer is useless, so I guess this video is still helpful :-)

@TheRealSamPrentice

21 күн бұрын

I believe it’s because they don’t have the expertise internally to deal with the issues. I would imagine that the staff changes also would’ve put extra pressure overall on that product. To answer Your real question I would imagine because they don’t want to have to deal with the problems. It’s a rare occurrence nowadays that I would still buy a printer in order to review it. And I’m not the only one.

@TripodsGarage

21 күн бұрын

I had zero issues until I brought the Sk1 to RMRRF. The display decided not to work. The TwoTrees people came by and couldn’t resolve it. They were supposed to reach out, and one month later “crickets”. Their CNC is very well built and very solid, the spindle is just under powered. Be prepared for a lengthy build time. I did review it about a year ago.