Between food plots and our own farm, we've put out over 120 tons of lime. Soil test, lime, then fertilize as needed is almost always the cure for "bad soil".

Great contrast between the limed and still too-acidic field.

That tree was there when my great grandparents homesteaded north of Sturgeon 🌾

thank you greg for taking the time to do these videos .... grateful

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

Catching up with you...just love your videos and the comments that accompany them. You obviously have an experienced crowd that follows you. What a great exchange of ideas and resources. I always wondered why lime was used and what importance it was to the soil and grasses. Thanks Greg for the education.

Very interested thanks . I put down lime on my tiny pasture looks very good. Still a ways to go.

I'm out west & that's an awesome tree. 👍

Wow what a tree! We need to lime a bunch kinda hard to get to places. Bought our 1st spinning Jenny from Powerflex and putting in timeless posts they are great posts. Thankful for all the rain. Thanks for the video

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck!

The best advice I can give anybody as a soil scientist is to send a soil sample to the lab. For a couple of dollars ($10-30) you can get your soil tested with recommendations for your specific location. There is a difference between “liming” agents, so be sure to source your lime in accordance with your soil test and goals. Most AG supply or fertilizer dealers will have someone on staff to help you sort out what the report says and how to proceed at no cost to you (they are looking for a potential customer). Also, your county or local university have extension agents who will also help you for free too! Just give them a call.

Thank you for the video.

Some plants like corn have a narrow 7 to 7.5 Ph for Magnesium absorption (see a Mulder chart). Raising the Ph has made more Mg available to the plant and with more chlorophyll the grass is darker green.

Very nice. Seeing is believing.

Thanks for the video! This morning I checked on our animals and had twins lambs. This evening I went out to check our sheep again and had a single lamb but 2 hours later I went back out she had the second one 2 sets of twins today. It has been a very exciting day for us on the farm. We have 2 more sheep to go and they could be any time. I’m guessing tonight or tomorrow for the next one and maybe a day or 2 for the other sheep. The mothers got to licking them right away and they were sucking less than an hour for the ones I saw born.

@alan30189

2 жыл бұрын

Fun stuff! Baby lambs are so darn cute!

@johnfitbyfaithnet

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations

Your big oak had large low branches. This tree started out on the edge of an open area and with the creek there, I think the odds are an edge of a farm field.(check for small rocks) Three hundred years would put it 1720s Missouri became a state in 1820s. Put my marker down for 150 years for when the rings are counted.

@alan30189

2 жыл бұрын

I’m guessing it’s probably between 150 and 200 years. I hope some moron doesn’t come and cut it down.

@rochrich1223

2 жыл бұрын

That trunk behind the broken limb rotted until a routine wind storm broke it off. The tree is in terminal decline. The choice of keeping a first class hollow nesting tree or salvaging a few hundred board feet of lumber is close enough that you can't say "moron" one way or the other. You could probably buy a couple acres of timber for the price of the wood from that tree.

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

The tree is hollow, it has various critters living inside it.

@davemi00

2 жыл бұрын

Michigan man, I’m guessing at least 220 yrs old.

beautiful! is lime still a good idea where PH is 6.5 but a section of field on a hill where it probably leaches has no grass and just garbage weeds growing? It is our worst section of field and has never responded to fertilizer or seeding at all. guessing that lime wouldn't hurt! Thanks so much Greg!!

Indeed acidic soil is an issue for implanting pastures, fescue is good in tolerating acidic soils and red clover and durana clover are really good for acidic soils but your righ lime cut the time in years in leveling the pH in the soil

good job thanks

Thanks Greg. Have you ever found a need to apply gypsum?

Was the extra kick more from the phosphorus or the lime? Did you put phosphorus on the non-limed area? Thanks!

How did you bring in your lime and spread it? Lime deliveries here tend to come in heavy trailers that don’t navigate hills and stumps very well.

Great video Greg! Do you do any kind of soil testing, before and after to help decide what and how much to apply?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Yes we do

I've lived in Arkansas all my life, and a 100 year old oak in the east Arkansas Mississippi river delta will be to large to put your arms around but, an old Oak in the Ozarks will have a very small diameter maybe 1/5 that of one in delta they in the mountains are what we flat landers call post oaks ha ha

Does the fertilizer come out of the grazers pocket or the property owners? What would the budget be?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on your grazinig lease contract. We pay for all of our soil amendments on our leased farms. With economical leases you can afford to do that.

What is the current going rate of lime per ton? And what is the recommended application per acre and what is the recommended method of spreading (I have a Kubota L4060 tractor).

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure, have not priced any lime this year. Pretty good chance that it has increased in price with everything else.

Have you ever thought of trying liquid calcium?

Do you know if Perilla Mint (I'm sure spelling is bad ) is an indicator of needing lime ?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

I would certainly like to know what causes it to grow in some areas. We have it on one farm.

how do you apply the lime and what kind of lime is it? thanks

@alan30189

2 жыл бұрын

A spreader

So both fields were cleared the same time or not?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

The last field was cleared last spring. The first field just never grew any grass period until we addressed the lime issue.

How you reckon the ph was before the application?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Ph was below 6

👍👍

Question: could wood ash be used in place of lime?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Wood ash is great for soil building

When trying to restore low PH fields such as this, is adding lime an absolute necessity? Or does the lime just speed up the process? Can the fields be brought back by just using your other methods such as getting animals rotated through and feeding hay on them? Love the videos Greg, keep them coming!

@rochrich1223

2 жыл бұрын

If you are on clay, a soil test will show the balance between Ca and Mg. A high Mg clay is sticky and is hard to break up, so a high Ca lime can help with friability as well as ph. A ph tester is super cheap compared to lime, so it's worth getting.

@microsoilenhancersinspirey5750

2 жыл бұрын

You live on a lime bed...plant 4 or more family group cover crops that are summer annuals then use some compost or composted litter...let it get about waist high before you rotational graze...you can do it a lot faster than 10 years through biological stimulation through photosynthesis and multiple family groups waking a different genome! The carbon is key which is why he has such good luck rolling out bales!

@Amaranthian450

2 жыл бұрын

If you have access to a no till drill and the ground is driveable, you could easily plant some diverse annual covers, 10-15 species mix, for a couple years to grow with the existing perennials and then carefully grazing with ruminants like Greg does, This would achieve even better results than Greg is getting here.

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

You could never get a no-till drill over this field, there are hundreds of oak stumps that would rip your drill to shreds. Cover crops are great if you have enough fertility in your soil to make them grow. I wasted $5000 on a cover crop planting several years back when they did not come up due to lack of rain and poor fertility. Unrolling purchased hay and letting livestock work it into the soil is 100% non-fail method of improving poor soil. Let the animals do the work.

@Amaranthian450

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher it can be hard to get seed soil contact but it works for me, I no-tilled a super poor hay field, I’m talking less than .5 bale an acre, last year with a 9 species cover crop with zero fertilizer, and the sorghum came up over my head. The hardest part is getting good seed soil contact through the sod but I’ve done it and it can be done.

Hi Greg! I am wondering what your mow/hog/chop strategy might be this year with gas prices so high? I know what you do is limited already. TFP!

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Good question! We will only be mowing pastures with excessive brush encroachment and landowners that demand their land be mowed to look nice!

What’s the difference in lime, in this area, western Pa, you can buy 200.00 triaxle loads, or you can buy 600.00 triaxle loads. Guys around here say there is a big difference, but know one can really say what that is.

@adamgottemoeller6571

2 жыл бұрын

It is called Effective Nutralizing Material (ENM) meaning it is purer calcium. The higher the ENM the more bang for your buck. I assume that is the difference in price.

Presumably, but I'm guessing, the liming was limestone rather than burnt, slaked lime?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

That is correct

How much lime per acre and how was it applied?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

3 ton per acre, spread with a lime spreader with wheels 4 feet wide to prevent soil compaction.

I was looking hard for morels as the camera was viewing the ground

How long after lyme can the cows graze

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Let it get a rain on it first before grazing.

How often do you normally apply lime?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

If we see broomsedge, we take a soil sample and go from there.

@jessenp20162725

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I’m from western Nebraska. Is Broomsedge a plant, or a stage of plant growth?

Do still run cows with sheep?

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

Only the bull mob in the spring after lambing.

Once you put the lime down, do you overseed the field with the best grass seed for cattle? Planting cover crops would benefit those fields, big time. Check out Gabe Brown’s three part video series I mentioned about a week ago. Cheers! 🍻

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

No we do not put out seed. There are tons of seeds in the soil seed bank that have been there for many years. Use natures seeds, its cheaper than buying them.

@frankenz66

2 жыл бұрын

Hayseed will put out a pasture in time. Until that time, the dormant native grasses and weeds will come up and livestock will eat that. Am in the southern Ozarks, and I have seen fescue and orchard grass set up as a pasture that way without seeding. Just lime it.

@frankenz66

2 жыл бұрын

Most adapted to the climate as well to do that. Bermuda grass comes in down here that way as well. May be a little cooler up that way for Bermuda. Sometime it doesn't come out well until mid to late June on cooler years.

Greg : I wonder, when the Cow mob get together again, there will be fight between few cows to re-establish ranks. Will be interesting to watch.

@gregjudyregenerativerancher

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a good question, will be interesting to see what happens.