Make Some Noise S2E16 "Cut for Time" Article: www.polygon.com/lord-of-the-rings/22550950/sam-frodo-queer-romance-lord-of-the-rings-tolkien-quotes

@deathbykonami5487

4 ай бұрын

Let the backwards arseholes talk, this form of entertainment isn't for them anyway.

@ashleyjohnson9651

4 ай бұрын

​@@lakeofthewoodsmusketry9402yeah. if you have any issues with gay people harmlessly existing, including them interpreting fictional people to be gay, you are to some degree, a homophobe. hope that helps ❤

@Nimoot

4 ай бұрын

Poor snowflakes.... I was hoping for them to commit on the kiss for extra laughs XD hahah.

@KaelWrit

4 ай бұрын

this is why conservatives arent funny. cant even handle an actual joke.

@sethjuice

4 ай бұрын

"Listen, you have to let straight males be affectionate with their friends, otherwise they'll shoot you."

Rosie Cotton: This is my husband Samwise, and this is Samwise's boyfriend Frodo.

@frostfang1

4 ай бұрын

Yess poly representation! Haha

@Ratigan2

4 ай бұрын

Wait where is that from again

@Awes0m3n3s5

4 ай бұрын

​@@Ratigan2 just a little book called the Lord of the Rings, you might not have heard if it!

@rissotto8081

4 ай бұрын

​@@Ratigan2I think the reference is from "Parks and Rec". April is dating a bi guy who has a gay boyfriend?

@amberwilliams4210

4 ай бұрын

Fr, fr.

I love how basically every improviser at Dropout seems to look at Ross and think, "Now this is the man to play a gay romance with!"

@Maurenriques

4 ай бұрын

Tall dude, with those biceps, who can improv Shakespeare on the spot and pull honestly BANGER songs from nowhere? every man's dream right there

@FrumiousBandersnatch42

4 ай бұрын

​@@Maurenriques I miss his mustache 😔

@julyrian

4 ай бұрын

half of his play it by ear episodes make a hard left turn into Ross’ Gay Love Story: the Musical

@margaritakhablyuk3471

4 ай бұрын

@@julyrian all together now: Youuuuunicycles

@maxrbmc

4 ай бұрын

I mean look at the material. Those forearms!

Brokeback Mount Doom.

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

I wish I thought of this joke first omg

@carlblix7794

4 ай бұрын

@@LostLifetimes Honestly I thought that joke would be all over the comment section.

@RicardoMoralesMassin

4 ай бұрын

YOU MOTHERF--- I was about to drink when I read this. Almost ruined the laptop and the wall...

@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop

4 ай бұрын

You made me screech like an unidentified species of bird.

@carlblix7794

4 ай бұрын

@@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop I'm going to guess it's either a Roseate Spoonbill or a chicken.

"in a PLATONIC way?" *hot makeout sesh*

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

Honestly what does platonic even mean at this point let's be real (Screams at 2024 dating/fwb culture)

@flaminyawn

4 ай бұрын

You could HEAR the parentheses around that question mark.

It feels like if Sam didnt hit the buzzer, they would have kissed just for the bit

@aaronchidester806

4 ай бұрын

Tis a pity...

@hoopoloatucd

4 ай бұрын

"At least 4 times"

@Imbatmn57

4 ай бұрын

Sam had to blue ball😂

@gabriellealtman

4 ай бұрын

oh 100%, there's clips of brennan lee mulligan kissing other straight men exclusively for the purpose of the bit. gotta love the dedication from him.

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

​@@gabriellealtman UCB has given us so many gifts

Brennan finally in the role he was most meant to play: a verified service top

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

In general Samwise is the role he was born to play tbh, all jokes aside

@charcoal200

4 ай бұрын

Dear God, if only.

@MusicalPlayground717

4 ай бұрын

God, the two roles I think Brennan would be most perfect for are A.) Sam, and B.) The Judge from Blood Meridian. If that’s not range, I don’t know what is.

@michaelcarlton1484

4 ай бұрын

Wasn't he one already? A Dungeon Master is just that but platonic.

@frinkywinky

4 ай бұрын

this comment has me HOLLERING HEEELLPPPPPP

These two god damn nerds read those god damn books back to fucking front. Good for them.

@ThePolarpop

4 ай бұрын

Atleast 3 nerds cuz of the immediate understanding and also point out of original plot by sam

@Staubsaugaer

4 ай бұрын

I mean that's kinda what you do with books

@artsyscrub3226

4 ай бұрын

@@ThePolarpop Sam is a huge nerd, he runs this entire show of course hes a nerd

@Kibannn

4 ай бұрын

​@@StaubsaugaerI usually do it front to back, personally. To each their own though.

@krimzonghost1987

4 ай бұрын

@@Staubsaugaer I like to start at the end, Then I flip all the way back to the beginning. I call it the Tarantino Method.

It feels like there's a concrete moment where the first prompt fades away as Brennen and Ross decide they should hash this out instead.

@sylph8005

4 ай бұрын

They try to get back for a second with the Eye bit

@VivaLaDnDLogs

4 ай бұрын

Maybe this is just how the first draft of LOTR was, and then Tolkien had to spend hours, days, or weeks re-writing scenes so he wouldn't get in trouble?

@kitschking

4 ай бұрын

lol true

@bondfall0072

4 ай бұрын

Nah, i think this came out of the very real camaraderie he formed with his brothers in arms in the trenches of somme, and to create something fun for his son and friends to read when he was in Egypt. WW1 vets saw some shit​. I think everyone just knew at the time if you met someone during the war, you had to form some sort of connection just to stay alive, and those bonds can become very deep and very strong after going through hell. That being said, i can't believe for a single second a tenured professor at the university which gave us "the oxford rub" was completely oblivious to how intimate Sam and Frodo's relationship is. He probably just didn't give a crap. @@VivaLaDnDLogs

@artsyscrub3226

4 ай бұрын

@@VivaLaDnDLogs We know tolken wanted a gay hobbit romance but it was too much for the time, but there's no way you write baggins and samwise kissing and pretend they aren't at least a little gay EXPECALLY SINCE IT HAD BEEN ALLEGEDLY 4 TIMES?! Like yes kissing a dude once doesn't always mean your gay but after the second time i have some questions

Brennan’s Protagonist Energy is normally *so* strong, so I love that every time a Lord of the Rings prompt comes up he immediately goes for Sam rather than Frodo

@Glamador

4 ай бұрын

I think you'll find that is because Sam *is* the protagonist. He's Leon, Frodo is Ashley. ...the One Ring is also Ashley in this metaphor.

@eclecticdog2k901

4 ай бұрын

I’m not familiar with who Leon and Ashley are, but I always felt like Frodo was structurally more of the protagonist even if Sam may be the hero. Regardless of how one interprets that difference, though, Frodo *does* give off the protagonist energy that annoys me in Brennan sometimes, and Sam doesn’t, which is why I enjoy Brennan immediately taking on the role of Sam so much.

@judgenitsuj4402

4 ай бұрын

​@@eclecticdog2k901resident evil reference leon is the player character who is a gun toting, wise cracking, badass bodygaurd for ashley who is the presidents daughter who if left alone will be kidnapped

@tenderwall

4 ай бұрын

@eclecticdog2k901 leon and ashley are from resident evil. in their game, ashley is basically a burden, she's a president's daughter that got kidnapped so the badguys can spread a virus (or smth, some bioweapon) to the us thru her. leon is the player character, he will have to go thru a lot to save her, himself, and the country who sent him. i agree w u that frodo is more of a protagonist structurally, but i think sam can actually be both the hero and a protagonist (just like leon)

@jeremiahwise2076

4 ай бұрын

Sam is absolutely the true protagonist of The Lord of The Rings. Frodo is the ring bearer but Sam is the main character.

"even if i wanted to, which i haven't said i do" SUCH A FUCKIN MOOD for us gays with our ambiguous friends

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

"hypothetically if you wanted to, I'm not asking or anything but like if YOU want to-"

@veniankween130

4 ай бұрын

Noooo where did you guys find my messages??😭😭

@zanite8650

4 сағат бұрын

Not gay!!.... unlesss.... haha...?

“And they were shiremates!” “Oh my god they were shiremates”

Truly a crime to have this cut from the final episode.

@deathbykonami5487

4 ай бұрын

This wasn't from the final episode, this was episode 3.

@anonymousanimal5179

4 ай бұрын

@@deathbykonami5487They mean the final cut of the episode.

@xxliew

4 ай бұрын

where do you see it then?

@Ciara_Turner

4 ай бұрын

@@xxliew It was in the "cut for time" special that they put out at the end of the season

@And-ur6ol

2 ай бұрын

@@12feetupyou think Rosie Cotton is deep into the lore? Rosie Cotton is like a puddle next to an ocean, in terms of LOTR of lore :D If a character is in the movies, it is NOT deep lore :D

An underrated bit of this Frodo describing Gandalf as “my wizard friend”

I absolutely took that Rosie Cotton reference as jealousy bait rather than an in denial "no homo", and I'm glad I'm not the only one. 😂

@ThatGreyGentleman

4 ай бұрын

It was the “are you gonna say it or am I?” Vibe for me 😂

@Theology.101

2 ай бұрын

canonically she’s the plus one beard

@ConfusedRambutan

Ай бұрын

polyamory

The ending author reveal is perfect.

@JediCoati

4 ай бұрын

"the calm is coming from inside the house!"

"Burden as it is with the LOAD that I carry" Ross phrased that on purpose

@brianfederkins

4 ай бұрын

I am very surprised Brennan didn't hit back with "O, but if you would bestow thine load upon me, I would bear it with pride."

@Dakarai_Knight

4 ай бұрын

​@@brianfederkins Y'all I'm both in love and horrified with this comment section 🤣

@mittenista

3 ай бұрын

​@@brianfederkins You, sir, are a mother fucking poet.

Only true platonic friends will follow you to the undying lands

@thorr18BEM

4 ай бұрын

First he basically lived a whole life with Rosie, before spending eternity with Frodo.

@ladyreverie7027

3 ай бұрын

There was honestly a great fanfiction I read once that had Sam as bisexual and polyamorous and it went into the three of them living in Bag End for a while before Frodo got too sick and then explored Sam and Rosie's life before Sam went to Valinor to be with Frodo again after her death. It was so canon compliant I loved it. Called "All That I Had".

@thorr18BEM

3 ай бұрын

@@ladyreverie7027 Tumblr had a broken link to ""All That I Had" - The Best Sam/Frodo Fanfic of All Time" but I didn't find the actual story.

@12classics39

3 ай бұрын

@@ladyreverie7027I LOVE THAT FIC. Such a masterpiece. Most of it is literally adopted into my own headcanon. It just fits so well.

For sure thought they were gonna lean heavily into Frodo acting passive-aggressive, but this is honestly ten times better

@AliciaRainbow

4 ай бұрын

Well because in the book Frodo didn't have any issues with Sam's love for Rosie. So this is better, *and* canonically sound!

This is fun, and I know you can find quite a bit of homoerotic subtext in the Sam/Frodo Merry/Pippin and Gimli/Legolas pairs, but to me, one of the strengths of LOTR is how gloriously asexual it is. It definitely is romantic, but treats romance like a beautiful landscape, poetry, history, not as a standalone or special thing. And I find a lot of value in a world where fulfillment is explicitly outside of sexual life, but in so many other beautiful things. Like, it really shows of a beautiful world, beautiful lives, full of rich experiences, friendships and emotions that doesn't need sex to be complete. To me, it's a love letter to an ace lifestyle, somehow, and I claim it as ace representation (which imo is really lacking). And maybe more importantly too, not even the worst enemies and most cruel monsters are depraved enough to commit sexual violence. Tolkien described the most evil he could conjure, and yet he deemed sexual violence to be even worse somehow, and not worthy to enter his books. Respect!

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

I agree! I think the "it's not explicitly sexual" can be used by some to discredit the queerness, when asexuality is part of the LGBTQIA, and seeing SamFrodo as an asexual-but-romantic partnership is just as valid as seeing them as QPPs (queerplatonic partnership). But there's definitely not Nothing there 😂

@ambergris5705

4 ай бұрын

@@LostLifetimes I love the Not nothing 😂😂😂 but yeah, asexual queer relationships should be more explored I believe!

@audreylong1814

4 ай бұрын

Merry and Pippin are cousins, but I absolutely agree otherwise. Also Aragorn/Legolas!

@CharlieGrace4

4 ай бұрын

@@audreylong1814just what I was about to say on both counts :)

@lionproud1287

4 ай бұрын

YES YES YES YES and I love it sm. Bilbo in particular is such an Ace icon

Sam (Reich) coming over to show them the original prompt is one of the most insane moments in MSN

0:55 good lord the zoom cut on ross licking his lip awakened something inside me

I love the direction Ross was trying to take it with Frodo being SUPER serious and down abt the ring "I spy with my little eye something beginning with **R**" was setting up perfectly for it to go "I don't suppose it might be that ring around your neck Mr. Frodo" but Brennan subverted it SO perfectly

this is truly wonderful the face Brennan makes at 0:25 sent me into a spiral of laughter and I never recovered from there

@K0feeKrawl

4 ай бұрын

Also how he looks Ross up and down before answering. The scan was such a great touch

SAMUEL DALTON REICH HOW DARE YOU HIT THAT BUTTON

Love love love these footnotes.

@mordicaiknode

4 ай бұрын

Oh woah, I didn't know Molly & Brennan wrote together!

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

@@mordicaiknode yeah! He's mentioned her a few times as a longtime friend but idk much past that, I haven't read the comic yet

@JacksonBockus

4 ай бұрын

@@LostLifetimesWhen I first saw him on CollegeHumor I was like “oh hey the Strong Female Protagonist guy!” Now they’re both off on bigger and better-paying projects, but I still hold out a flicker of hope they’ll reunite to give that comic an ending.

one thing you can trust is that if ross bryant is in a dropout episode he will come in swinging and make u realise things about yourself

This is so funny because literally the whole time I was thinking “damn this sounds like Molly Ostertag is possessing Brennan’s body”

the popup text notations are SENDING me

I thought this was just gonna be the clip reposted on itself and was ready to enjoy thoroughly again. To have it supplied with sources and citations, made it even better and I laughed, and I definitely have got to get around to read the book cause I had no idea about these hilarious subtexts Thank you! What a joy

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

💖💖💖

I read the notes thinking "I hope Molly sees this" and then "Never mind, Molly wrote it. That checks out" 😂

time to reread lotr for my gay icons sam n frodo

@sophieb-m1472

4 ай бұрын

I was almost going to give this a like, but it’s at 69… I won’t be the one to break this balance

Sam: I never really pick up a vibe from you Frodo (sighs, quietly mumbling): I know you don't. I've been wooing you for decades and you never notice!

@mosasaurusrex1815

3 ай бұрын

The way I really want to go read SamFro fanfiction after watching this. It isn't even funny.

Dont play monopoly with Samwise Gamgee, every time its his turn he goes "one more roll, it'll be the farthest from home I've ever been"

I wish I could, every time I press the replay button, watch this again for the first time with eyes anew

@AmyLameyBobamey

4 ай бұрын

this is so real

super extremely perfectly normally ordinarily heterosexual conversation.

when he first said rosie cotton I was worried, but we made it, we got there, 10/10 lads also the haunted look about something beginning with R 0:33 😂

“I know writers who use subtext and they’re cowards.”

We all agree the Something that starts with G that Sam spied was Gollum, right?

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

I thought it was Gandalf

Doomed lotr yaoi

@daalimbe

4 ай бұрын

now that's some quality stuff right there, same level as fucked up old man yaoi

@elimaloney2025

5 күн бұрын

same with bagginshield

So I showed my dad (who owns four copies of the hobbit books, including a hand bound one) the Elvish Presley bit and the ‘Sauron but Donald Trump’ bit, and he loved them. Guess we gotta go three for three

@telall

4 ай бұрын

Do you have links to the other two sketches

@drtoonie

3 ай бұрын

I gotta know how he liked it

Saw the text snippet at 0:47 and I was like “oh hell yeah this is Molly Ostertag’s Frodo/Sam breakdown isn’t it” 😭

"Sam is gay but he's straight for me, but he's gay for Frodo, and Frodo is really gay for Sam. And I hate Frodo." -Rosie Cotton

@12classics39

3 ай бұрын

She named her son after Frodo and also let Frodo name Elanor. And when Frodo lived with her and Sam, “there was not a hobbit in the Shire looked after with such care” as Frodo was. She and Frodo were definitely good friends.

Thank you for including the book excerpts made the video WAYYYH more hilarious as a non-reader of books 😂😂😂

I love how quickly it went from road trip games to gay romance rp

0:33 I love how he almost slipped into DM voice

the sudden loud ROSE COTTON caught me so off guard

The way this skit made me feel deep, wrong, forbidden things, like I’d read fanfic about this 😂😂

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong about it

@savagelysaucie

4 ай бұрын

@@LostLifetimes 😂 you’re so right!!

@xxliew

4 ай бұрын

may I recommend: ao3

@savagelysaucie

4 ай бұрын

@@xxliew please tell me what is ao3? I will definitely check it out.

@Gingrnut

4 ай бұрын

Oh boy you should look up the fanfic Molly Ostertag wrote about Frodo & Sam lol. She literally pandemic fanficced her way into news websites commissioning her to write evidence-based articles about the queerness in LOTR, it’s amazing.

The molly ostertag reveal at the end....

OHHHH THE FINAL REVEAL!!! (Also Strong Female Protagonist is SO GOOD and I really hope one day they come back to it)

this video with the article excerpts is like a beautiful collage ❤❤

Okay, all of the delightful implication that LotR was the original Brokeback Mountain aside, look how smol Sam Reich is: 2:09! He's basically a hobbit himself! I don't think I've ever seen him not behind a podium or a desk or something, so seeing him stand next to other humans just entirely blindsided me.

i GASPED at the author reveal at the end everything is connected sdfghj

Movie accurate. Frodo was 100% into Sam but Sam was already committed.

I spy with my little eye the undying _straight_ love I have for this guy

art exists to be interpreted and if I interpret Frodo, Sam, and Rosie to be a hobbit polyamory who could possibly stop me

also does it say something that this is one of brennan's favorite books?? who's to say... 👀

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

"Who can truly know what lives in the heart of another?" - Edgar the rat, Fantasy High

@FxdGearQueer

4 ай бұрын

Brennan's Hall Pass is Jeff Goldblum, sooo 🤷‍♀️

Bravo to whoever put all the literary citations in this bit. Great editing and I paused multiple times to read it.

“Even if I wanted to, WHICH I HAVEN’T SAID I DO” This sentence has NEVER been followed by something heterosexual occurring

This gives “I can carry you!” New meaning.

I LOVE that you added the context! I adore SFP. It's wild that Molly wrote the article. I am so surprised they cut this sketch. It's brilliant. Of course, Brennan and Ross would have them address the sexual tension without being told to. Have they disappointed us on things like that before?

It's an actual crime that this was cut for time

I watch this so frequently and I'm always amazed at how they just BARELY keep it together

Poor Frodo, needs to get closer and closer to a volcano with a ring he isn't allowed to stick his finger into, even though he really really wants to.

Ross once again being a gay icon

If I had to make a fanficcy guess from the film adaptations alone, I'd go with Frodo being asexual (but deeply loving Sam) and Sam being Bi and trapped between his feelings for Rosie and Frodo. That's just how it reads on the screen.

@LostLifetimes

3 ай бұрын

This is my interpretation too

Listen, we all know this happened at some point on the road to Mordor.

an article by THE Molly Ostertag? I love that.

brennan finally does see the prompts

This clip (and the article) pushed me to spend 10 hrs of my weekend to marathon the films for the first time (I've only seen it in chunks before now). I'm crying 😭 They are in love, no one convince me otherwise.

Omg the cut to the x-files music 😂

Brennan’s face at 1:09 broke me

Molly where's the fanart? MOLLY-

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

It's in the OG article actually they're great

I knew the scene was gonna take a sexual turn the moment Ross said he was "burdened with a heavy load". And I like to think he knew it too.

This is how I finally realized that the Brennan of Strong Female Protagonist is this Brennan.

Guys, it’s crazy how you can interpret something from a book how ever you want. THEY NEVER LIVED OR EXISTED YOU CAN HAD ANY READING OF THE STORY YOU PLEASE

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

I just wish people would spend this time reaching out to their actual friends instead of arguing for the case of a fictional friendship

Oh my God, they get it

WAS NO ONE GONNA TELL ME BRENNAN WORKED WITH MOLLY KNOX OSTERTAG?? WITH A WRITER OF THE OWL HOUSE??

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

Worked with/longtime friends with/accidentally were in a car accident together... I don't know all the lore here lol but I'm sure there's more to find if you're curious

this cut is SO GOOD. big improvement.

Ahh, finally someone who's read -Molly's article- the books and gets it.

Hey ! Don’t underestimate the intensity of homoerotic asexual love, even if it’s platonic. Or the intensity of friendship between 2 aro hobbits. I think I am perfectly qualified to imagine an aro Sam 😉

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

Oh I agree!! I think all interpretations of this are valid, but mine personally is somewhere on the scale of ace-but-romantic or queerplatonic partners 💜

good work with the edit! and thank you for linking the article

maybe i SHOULD read lotr

@katherinegraham3803

3 ай бұрын

If you enjoy guys with warm, gravely voices I HIGHLY recommend checking out the audiobook read by Andy Serkis.

I'd watch Brokeback Mount Doom.

excellent ending I just cant believe it

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

I can't believe I didn't notice until the very end so I had the same experience as you all

The thing he spied was romance

Why the hell not? Frodo and Samwise have been "will they, won't they" ever since they left the Shire. On a related note, someone's definitely going to make another "Ross Bryant and Brennan Lee Mulligan Create Bi-Panic" compilation video.

Loving how quickly they stray from the prompt.

These two are amazing! The article is a phenomenal read.

GREAT addition of the quotes

This video was how I learned that Brennan and Molly created a webcomic, it’s incredible, thank you so much!

@Brozinator97

8 күн бұрын

Oh no! I’ve read it all, fell in love, but it’s not done, and hasn’t been updated since 2018 😫

Thank you for reminding me that SFP will never be updated ever again. T_T

When Brennan said "Finally the closure we never got" he wasn't talking about the characters...

I remember Molly publishing that article after posting an illustrated novel length fanfic on AO3 and just posting posting posting about SamFrodo to her Twitter account.

actually GASPED when i saw ostertag

@LostLifetimes

4 ай бұрын

SAME "Waitaminute that name looks familiar WAITAMINUTE-"

Thank you for linking the article; it was a very interesting read!

The annotations from the article are very appreciated 🙏

oh my god ross's arms. ross's ARMS

This is exactly the sort of mashup/analysis/dropout-quickcut content I am here for! 😄😄

I definitely need to reread the LotR. Haven't given it a good read since high school. Now, post closet, I feel it'll read a lot differently. I love this.