I wish JYP gave their idols more vocal training because so many of them have a lot of potential but their technique isn’t great

@leemingo4427

4 жыл бұрын

Jyp gave them a "half air half sound" kind of thing. Which is bad

@melodycao5376

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, JYP himself is not really knowledgeable on vocal technique so I don't see him applying it any time soon. There seems to be a much larger focus on diction and a pleasant tone than singing with technique.

@mdorrdar3656

4 жыл бұрын

i think maybe because koreans love these tone of voice or pitch thats why mostly all companies go with this choice even yg makes rose sings nasaly and make her voice more high pitched and cute or even produce 48 winners mostly have high piched voice idk its just a korean thing they seem like just love high pitched voice

@_Red_Panda_

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, one of the reasons why I can't completely stan Twice's music, is because they all have potential to have some very decent/amazing vocals, but don't have away to access it. I guess it's because JYP is tried to fit their voices with their music style/concept, which was mainly cutesy.

@beta910

4 жыл бұрын

키미 Wasn’t Lia also an SM trainee before becoming a JYP before?

This is why Dahyun need to *Sing more* while momo need to *Rap more*

@JuliaTDI23

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@lovechoerrymotion5086

4 жыл бұрын

That would be literally perfect because I feel like Dahyun shines more when she sings and Momo when she raps

@HoNiAn

4 жыл бұрын

But is actually the main dancer, and also giving her the rapping linea wouldn’t be break the balance?

@dizdude897

4 жыл бұрын

@@HoNiAn nope not at all,momo is already a sub rapper in the group and jyp said that she was firstly to be a lead rapper so that means her rap is good or at least decent and giving her rap line didnt break the balance Momo also is quite good rapper next to chae and dahyun so i wouldnt mad if she raps more cause a lot of groups main dancers usually apart of the rapper and only some are vocalist

@yoonsmile8271

4 жыл бұрын

The thing is Dahyun’s voice doesn’t suit twice high-pitched sound, she’s more stable than momo but idk if she would adapt well to twice’s style

Jeongyeon has the perfect voice for old jyp girl groups songs like wonder girls, Miss a and 15&, she really shines when she covers them. I’d love to know what you think of the duo 15& they’re both great vocalists

@rubenjoe7488

4 жыл бұрын

True! When they do covers Jeongyeon gets so many lines! 😖

@ravisith8710

4 жыл бұрын

Jeongyeon suits songs that are not too cute. Her voice is very mature and I like it.

@dorothy5784

4 жыл бұрын

i agree but i dont think that jyp will give them concept/s like that because twice became known for cute concept.

@JeongsBiss

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Jimin and Jeongyeon in one song? Queens! 😍

@Faeriiexx

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeongsBiss Don't forget Yerin! Jimin is amazing but Yerin's belting is so good

JYP actually kinda sucks with vocals. i saw a tv show where he teaches girls to be idols and what i notice is that he doesn’t tell them how to properly use their voice but rather sound like him and what he personally likes.

@Mnvvvv

4 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking when watching his tv programs and his girl groups he just picks people that suit him not people who have potential he only want people who are attractive to him and can dance he doesn’t care at all about vocals as long as the dancing is perfect like literally perfect he doesn’t care about the rest

@mdorrdar3656

4 жыл бұрын

agree omg

@alexblack4048

4 жыл бұрын

probably why hes friends with YG lmao

@isabella-ft6dq

4 жыл бұрын

yeah i don't remember exactly but he tells his artists to use more air than actual voice i don't remember i just know he mentioned something about a lot of air

@alexblack4048

4 жыл бұрын

@@isabella-ft6dq yeah the half air/half voice technique

For me: Jeongyeon is better overall Vocalist than Nayeon but Nayeon is better idol vocalist than Jeongyeon

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Literally couldn't agree more.

@josephine9597

4 жыл бұрын

Yesss

@jazzy3120_

4 жыл бұрын

This!!!!!! Idol Vocalists/Idol Dancers aren't always the best technique wise but in terms of what idols have to deliver, they excel in that area

@sweetsweet_24

4 жыл бұрын

@@K-Popfolife I like more nayeon's vocal tone, i agree that her range is high but jeongyeon' s voice is more clean is not sound nasally like nayeon's and hit high notes is part of idol vocalist not overall vocalist. Jeongyeon doesn't have opportunity to show her vocals as Nayeon

@kwangya2649

4 жыл бұрын

@@K-Popfolife wide range doesn't make you a better vocalist Nayeon has a wider range than Jihyo but that doesn't make her better than Jihyo .. Nayeon can definitely hit high notes but if you're talking about the whistle note in rainbow it was an instrument not Nayeon she said it herself

I think jeongyeon sounded the best when she sang lady gaga applause.. in her natural key?

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Lady gaga is a mezzo soprano, so yes that will probably be a factor.

@brunogrindelwald5723

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 You should check Born This Way by TWICE ♥♥

@izonexbae

4 жыл бұрын

Jeong baby yes she was also supporting thr notes(Bb4’s)

@lsa3524

4 жыл бұрын

Same omg, i think that song suited her voice perfectly

@travel_love_and_harmony

4 жыл бұрын

Omg this was an iconic performance

Ive seen so many vocal rankings on yt but this channel has the most descriptive unbiased and true ranking and explanation

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😊

@chl0beary

4 жыл бұрын

Samuel Bradley thank you so much for taking time to watch their singing videos and evaluate their voices . It helps very much with people who are new to vocal techniques and terms ☺️

I’m really happy about Chaeyoung! The top 3 was probably no surprise for any once but outside of that Chaeyoung did really great! People tend to over see her singing abilities, maybe because she always says she want to rap, but that girl is good at everything! Ok enough fangirling haha thanks for the video

@BuffyunaTV

4 жыл бұрын

also because she dodges the mic a lot and is not confident in singing.

@Fer-fy8dx

4 жыл бұрын

Chaeyoung is such a queen!

@notsrilanka

4 жыл бұрын

honestly the only imperfection she has is being a jb stan

@Annasuke16

4 жыл бұрын

@@notsrilanka as in GOT7 Jaebeom?

@notsrilanka

4 жыл бұрын

@@Annasuke16 omg no got7 jb is a king,,, i meant the yummy singer

I've been a hard Jeongyeon bias for super long and everything you said was painfully accurate. She is really under-appreciated because her voice just doesn't suit their concept, but damn the pre-debut Jeongyeon in the survival show... that was when she really shined. She was one of the most popular members, (pre-debut survival show era) and dropped to one of the less popular members today. I really feel like the girl-crush concept and cutting her hair short was really forced onto her and that may have deterred a lot of potential fans. Also not to mention her voice. Her voice is like warm honey. It's so smooth and stable, it's honestly quite sad JYP doesn't have the best vocal trainers because Twice has so much potential.

@beta910

4 жыл бұрын

You Ning Lee I’m not a once,but I thought she liked her hair short rather than long? I mean I might be wrong but I thought there was an article about how she didn’t like to have long hair. I do agree with you though she’s very under appreciated and deserves more lines

@lilpink6192

4 жыл бұрын

@@beta910 she had this "phone interview" (i dont know what its called sorry) where she expressed to her past-self, saying along the lines of "WHEN JYP TOLD YOU TO CUT YOUR HAIR SHORT... DONT DO IT..." along with her telling herself not to play the saxophone HAHA (during survival show era)

@funkystyle7249

4 жыл бұрын

@@beta910 That was in 2019, she never long hair beyond the shoulders before(except for a shoot) so for Fancy she wanted to try(since 2018 she expressed wanting it but she told management would not allow) but in came 2019 she was allowed and when she tried it, she found it difficult to manage, so she concluded she prefers the shorter hair, I am guessing the shoulder-chin length kind of short . Backstory: So during trainee period before Sixteen, she had hair touching her shoulder mid-length (which was her actual length) the management asked her to cut it, so for the show she cut it and she continued cutting it to the pixie hair for debut. 2015-17 she had the really short hair/pixie cut/boy cut because the management wanted Girl Crush, they gave her more tomboyish style clothes and styling like how Fx amber dresses. I don't think she liked that full heartedly. Starting from 2018 the management has eased the stronghold they have on her image, now they cancelled tomboyish/girlcrush but looks like they are trying Mature Formal look, I hate to say this but its like styling for females in their 30's.

@beta910

4 жыл бұрын

funkystyle That makes sense,I think in general JYPE(and tbh most idol entertainment companies) have a strict hold on their idols for their first 3 years of debut.I have noticed that and it’s like a trial period for the group or idol.It is also the period that groups get worked to the bone the hardest. It’s really bad if you ask me because I think gradual build is better for the idol’s health,but I think they are using the first 3 years because that’s when the idols are kind of like “hot off the press” (sorry I sidetracked from what you were saying,but basically I feel bad for her and I hope they have a less strict hold on her)

@simransucharita5434

4 жыл бұрын

Jeongyeon did said that she want to try long hair back and she tried it in fancy. But , she also said in Twicelights Seoul concert that , she is going cut her hair short. There are many articles also published for her straight forward statement to Once in that concert , said she wants to that's why. She is comfortable with short hair rather than long hair. Not everyone likes to have long hair.

all of your jeongyeon opinions are 200 IQ 😔

@tadokoropilled

4 жыл бұрын

*228292833 iq

@PinkMelatonin

3 жыл бұрын

@@tadokoropilled 99999999999999999999999999 IQ*

@missyverah8444

3 жыл бұрын

@@PinkMelatonin yes

Thanks for your analysis on tzuyu, so many people online say "tZuYu cAn'T sInG sHe'S jUsT a PrEtTy FaCe" and I'm honestly sick of it. I always thought people were over reacting and that her singing was actually quite decent, I'm glad some others agree 😊

@twiceexo2749

4 жыл бұрын

i agree! and i think it's becuase a lot are biased when they rank the members.

@xiuolo8116

4 жыл бұрын

Agree!

@simplyvibing9958

4 жыл бұрын

tzuyu is very talented. not just her face! 💞

@felmargego2534

4 жыл бұрын

As a tzuyu stan, it really makes my blood boil when haters say that. Makes me want to slam their faces on the floor.

@selenacabello5278

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest.. She just to be bad during and before debut, but in my opinion, she improved the most out of everyone in twice . I really like how her voice sounds nowadays

If Jungyeon were to do Apink songs, she will shine perhaps.

Jihyo and Jeongyeon have so much potential to become powerhouse vocalists and work their way towards becoming two of the third gen’s strongest vocalists but JYP isn’t capable of helping them improve to that point the way he did with Sunye and Yeeun and it’s really unfortunate

@glamourzen9040

4 жыл бұрын

this 100%. Jihyo and Jeongyeon are legitimate powerhouse vocalists but one has no lines and the other has bad technique. If only they were trained more we would have a duo to be wreckoned with.

@taeslilclown9801

4 жыл бұрын

GlamourZen90 I wouldn’t say Jihyo has bad technique because she’s actually above average if we’re not comparing her to Solar, Wendy and Yuju. But it’s no question that Jeongyeon is technically better, but somehow receives less lines than the sub vocalists

@newbiechu7024

3 жыл бұрын

They could've been the next Tae and Jess.

@taeslilclown9801

3 жыл бұрын

newbie CHU tbh no. that’s a bit more incomparable considering how Jessica’s has an extremely light tone. Sunye’s was more balanced like Jihyo; it wasn’t too light but still had enough power. Taeyeon, Yeeun and Jeongyeon could be compared tho, as they’re all powerhouses

@taeslilclown9801

3 жыл бұрын

@@dorothy5784 me too. People don’t realize how limiting the half air half sound technique actually is

ughhh I loved everything you said about jeongyeon and chaeyoung it’s such a shame their vocals are so underrated

I wish they didnt make momo sing like that she sounded sm better during sixteen :(

@kemii_io706

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@donniesalcedo6366

3 жыл бұрын

@@kemii_io706 why lol?

@saint9468

3 жыл бұрын

From what I know its literally because they can not make a song for the voice of one member the higher pitched her voice gets the more nasally it Gets

JEONGYEON GETTING ATTENTION ON HER VOCALS YES FINALLY!!!!

Finally! Chaeyoung vocal ability acknowledgement 😭❤️

no jam bros = amazing vocals that people tend to ignore

@meryl3677

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@harustar4328

4 жыл бұрын

This is fact

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

No Jam Bros are just underrated in general. They are called the weakest dancers of Twice, don’t get any recognition for their vocals, and Chaeyoung doesn’t any appreciation for her outstanding rap skills. They deserve better ❤️

Why most of kpop female rappers are also good singers? Because originally they auditioned for a singing position and the company saw the potential for a rapper position

@randomperson7607

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, like Jennie, Lisa, Soyeon, Dahyun, Chaeyoung, Moonbyul etc.

i think mina lacks proper vocal projection and in general her voice isn’t very supported. but her falsetto is very beautiful and her voice is super soothing. also dahyun is a very underrated singer, like her supported range is actually averagely wide.

@danjor5749

4 жыл бұрын

I love Dahyun’s voice, it’s my personal favorite singing voice in Twice. I think the breathy sort of color it has sounds great. I think she just needs more stability for it to really shine.

@yamatonadeshiko567

4 жыл бұрын

Dahyun doesn't support. Her vocal range may be wide but not supported. Only 3 mix have sense of support in Twice.

@liquorice8449

4 жыл бұрын

Dahyun doesn't support her voice...

@hannaittihadiyah5264

4 жыл бұрын

i hope both of them get bit more proper training so can developing their vocal up to the max

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

I love Dahyun’s voice but she uses a half air half sound technique and breaths too much while singing which really limits her technical abilities. Mina too, it may not sound like it but she has a quite airy voice as well.

The only ranking I trust.

My favourite twice song is signal because the key is brought down a little bit and Jeongyeon eats everyone up on that song. Signal honestly allows everyone to shine vocally

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yea it’s an underrated masterpiece. Chaeyoung also sounded so good there!

@skylerk126

2 жыл бұрын

facts but it’s one of my favorites too but just bc i like the song lol

In Twice Seize the Light ep 2, Momo acknowledges her vocal ability and that it is not really good. She said that she was scared to go to vocal classes. Tbh, the amount of lines she gets in Twice is fair for her because she must feel anxious if she gets too many vocal lines.

@ryanquince4549

4 жыл бұрын

JYP needs to realize that she just isn’t up to par with the other 8 members vocally and switch her and Dahyun’s positions. Dahyun needs to be a sub-rapper and vocalist and Momo a lead rapper and sub-vocalist

@szz6098

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryanquince4549 yess we need a momo rapper comeback

@marichuramirez5304

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryanquince4549 Yes or momo be lead rapper with dahyun, well either way, I think momo is better off rapping

@funkystyle7249

4 жыл бұрын

Why is she scared to go to vocal classes?

@pogi4454

4 жыл бұрын

@@funkystyle7249 because she said she isn't a good singer, so going to classes made her afraid. You can watch the episode to learn more

I agree your points! Especially jeongyeon's

@meryl3677

4 жыл бұрын

Also she's the only one I think in the group who uses vibrato.

Omg. Favorite voice and my Ultimate bias is Jeongyeon. One of the most stable vocals.

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Same she’s my ultimate bias wrecker, my ultimate bias is Chaeyoung. But I love Jeongyeon’s vocals the most and her voice is something very special....very unique and different. Not something you here a lot in Kpop, so it has a soft spot in my heart. And you’re right she literally has the best live vocals.

Your rating is probably the best Iv'e seen so far! I think a ranking of gfriend would be cool next if you're up to do more. I think Mina and Chaeyoung's voices are almost on par, but Mina has a slightly weaker tone, and I agree with where you put them. I love Mina and can't wait to hear her voice next comeback.

@bipbapp

4 жыл бұрын

Lune Seishin Chaeyoung is far a better singer than Mina.

@luneseishin11

4 жыл бұрын

@@bipbapp By your username, I can tell you're a huge fan of Chae, and I get that, but it really doesn't mean you have to disregard Mina's vocals. She's a good vocalist, and I think you're coming from a place of heavy bias.

@bipbapp

4 жыл бұрын

Lune Seishin I’m rly not? I love Mina but ur the one who sounds biased here. I’m a singer my self and I’m tired of Mina stans saying that Mina is a better singer than chae bc "they like her sweet voice". Sweet voice doesn’t = good vocalist. Yes Mina can sing but if where talking about technique and vocal range Chaeyoung is better. I’m not saying this to say Mina isn’t good I’m just saying the truth. Like in love foolish,Chaeyoung’s melody project,21:29 etc you can hear that chae have different vocal ranges in all of them and better technique than most of the members. Again I’m not saying this to sound rude.

@luneseishin11

4 жыл бұрын

@@bipbapp Like I said in my original comment, I agree for the most part, and I never said Mina is a better vocalist than Chaeyoung. But I still think that the gap between Mina and Chae, while definitely noticeable, isn't really as astronomical as people say it is. In terms of bias, I shouldn't act like I don't have any, but we both do so let's just leave it at that. Also I know you weren't trying to be rude but the original reply did kinda come off that way. Sorry if I come off as rude as well...

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

@@bipbapp Agreed!

honestly, its kinda upsetting seeing that tzuyu has to not only sing higher than what she’s comfortable with, but also dance to concept that make her look awkward because of her height, she always gets criticised for both her singing and dancing when we’re hardly seeing what shes capable of, thankfully that concepts of the last three eras compliment her dancing well and her vocals are constantly improving with a slighty higher range, but i do hope to see her sing in her most comfortable pitch.

Unfortunately, Chaeyoung Often got the less lines..

Thank you for giving Chaeyoung the vocal recognition she truly deserves ❤️ that girl is such a all rounder

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yes she's so talented! When new Onces here her sing, they wouldn't even know she's the main rapper!

U have the best vocal analysis videos on yt

im so happy with chaeyong and jeongyeons ranking! they are really really good and im glad u agree! they need more recognition.

iam the one who think that jeongyeon it is not fitted on twice? she is most suitable in Sm than jyp(sorry for my English iam still learning)

@daisylovesnoodles2166

4 жыл бұрын

I agree she has that standard classic sm beauty/elegance

@witchofbabylon5021

4 жыл бұрын

she would probably get more lines in SM 🤭

@watchsaikikrightnow6439

4 жыл бұрын

Witch Of Babylon she’s really good now, but imagine how much better her technique would be in SM lmao

@staph8022

4 жыл бұрын

a 6 member red velvet HAHA

@wanda3554

4 жыл бұрын

Eyyy agree

Dahyun is kinda like the 'J-hope of Twice', they're both the lead rapper and underrated Vocalist. Their rap is pretty 'cool', but their singing voice is a little bit sweeter.

@caratnctzen7488

4 жыл бұрын

:v true😂😂

@jang_wonyoung

4 жыл бұрын

hope is just a rapper

@jang_wonyoung

4 жыл бұрын

s she’s a lead rapper and vocal for a reason 🙄 stop being toxic

@jang_wonyoung

4 жыл бұрын

Treasure and?

@treasure7262

4 жыл бұрын

@s lmao biggest joke of 2020. Did bringing her down make you feel better? I get it, it is hard to live in the same age as such a beautiful, talented woman can be a bit intimidating but no need to be insecure hun! Some are just born talented and others born with salt

I don’t like when people put Jeongyeon above Jihyo just because they like the sound of her voice more. It’s completely biased and it’s obvious Jihyo is one of the strongest JYP vocalists, and you shouldn’t make her any lower than the place she deserves just because you prefer voices like Jeongyeons over stronger voices like Jihyos. I’m glad none of your videos are biased. You always come with the facts.

@JuliaTDI23

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Jeongyeon's vocals should be more recognized, but Jihyo is clearly better.

@alainer0611

4 жыл бұрын

Romina Reyes I know she isn’t the best vocalist though. But in her generation, in her company, she is one of the stronger vocalists, and has her main vocalist spot for a reason. My point is that you can say Jihyo isn’t your favorite vocalist or that you like another vocalists voice more, but you can’t be biased and say “I put jeongyeon higher because she has a soothing voice that I like more”, which is something many people do.

@JuliaTDI23

4 жыл бұрын

@Romina Reyes Jihyo can be an average singer even above average (but at the moment, average) when it comes to the whole kpop, however Jihyo is one of the strongest vocalists of the 3rd generation and remains stronger than Jeongyeon and the rest of the group.

@jacksonmerrill2499

4 жыл бұрын

Nayeon is better than jeongyeon in my opinion

@funkystyle7249

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think I have seen a video where Jeongyeon is above Jihyo??? Pretty sure 90% of videos are Nayeon vs Jihyo with Jihyo mostly no 1

I've always thought jeongyeon was the second best

@illyuzion

3 жыл бұрын

Same!!

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yea honestly she's main vocalist material

Jihyo is "average" for a main vocalist because main vocalists are all spectacular singers. Being an average main vocalist means youre still an exceptional singer, its nit picking. The difference between being an S tier and A tier basically. She's definitely not among the weakest main vocals but there are certainly many stronger ones out there too

@funkystyle7249

4 жыл бұрын

TRUTH!

@AB-rl8iz

3 жыл бұрын

Jihyo is my bias and I know she’ll grow into an ever better vocalist.. but yeah, I’d agree with you!

@luv_theluv4311

3 жыл бұрын

An average main vocalist is still good. They’d be in the A/A+ tier, while most great main vocalist are SS tier. Then you got IU, Chen, and Taeyeon in “How is a human this talented” tier

@Catz1a

3 жыл бұрын

@@luv_theluv4311 Ok I really love IU but she is the level of an average main vocal A tier (going by ur definition which I do agree with). She can do a lot, but nothing I haven't seen any other amazing singer do. She's awesome and underrated vocally a lot but not near Chen or Taeyeon overall

@eternal6257

3 жыл бұрын

@@luv_theluv4311 Im sorry but IU is more of an average but like one of the bests in the average

JYP focuses on dance, SM focuses on vocals and YG focuses on raps

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

That's certainly one way to look at it. However I would argue the best dancer is in SM and the best rapper is in JYP. But I guess that's just my personal opion. As a focus, I'd say they're all fairly accurate.

@deadpooljennkins5641

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 agreed, imo SM have 3 of the top 10 dancers in the industry

@shuangshuangguo

3 жыл бұрын

sm has Taemin, kai and Ten though, and Queen Boa and hyoyeon, u still think sm only focuses on vocals? sm have good dancers and vocalists, just lack of good rappers

@jeremy1909

3 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 are you a dancer too?

@thuphung367

3 жыл бұрын

@@shuangshuangguo they got nct which kinda has most rappers

Finally someone who ranked Jeongyeon above Nayeon, Jeongyeon’s voice gives me chills every time I here it! 🤩😍

@JuliaTDI23

4 жыл бұрын

Not accusing you of anything, but it sounded a little rude

@cutiebun6197

4 жыл бұрын

Ninguém Okay, it’s my opinion and your entitled to yours.

@ladyj4119

3 жыл бұрын

@@JuliaTDI23 how did it sound rude though...

@iamaloser666

3 жыл бұрын

@Firkus that’s a fair statement but Jeong I also think is better than Nayeon and I don’t really care for those two members but Jeong does have the better technique

@Samuel_536

3 жыл бұрын

tbh i think the reason put nayeon above jeongyeon is because we LITERALLY BARELY HEAR ANY LINES FROM JEONGYEONIE😭😭😭 so people can't really put her above nayeon because thsy havent heard enough of her voice. but i think this video really did jeongyeon justice

for chaeyoung you could have used her solo song where her vocals were really showcased but yeah i agree with this ranking god jihyo❤️

hi can you consider doing a ranking of gfriend, i think they have really good voices, i understand if you cant btw i loved this video, my personal favorite is nayeon

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I can certainly have a look at them and put them in the queue

@svendvendb

4 жыл бұрын

Samuel Bradley thanks!

JEONGYEOOOOOON!!!!! YAAAAAS KWEEEEN!!

A slap in the face for people saying Chaeyoung can’t sing and doesn’t appreciate her singing voice🤭👏🏼

@misteon_builds

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t really like her vocals, I think Dahyuns are way better

@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327

3 жыл бұрын

@@misteon_builds she’s an amazing singer though. I’ve seen multiple vocal coaches saying she could easily be a lead singer if she was in another group or we had 3 main vocals

@AnaJubaida

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.. her voice is really good, especially in feel special. Chaeyoung, jeongyeon, mina are my favorites voice in twice

@chaeyoungsstrawberryfarm3327

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnaJubaida mine too

@eggceptionalskz4021

3 жыл бұрын

@@misteon_builds well i know thats ur opinion but not liking her voice more doesnt mean she's not better

WHY ARE HIS GLASSES NOT MOVING IM SCARED

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

BECAUSE MY PHONE HAD A WEIRD SETTING HAHAHA

@missyverah8444

3 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 lmao what

Jeongyeon is my favorite voice in Twice too. I just love the sound of her voice and it’s always some of my favorite parts of their songs.

If you're planning on continuing to cover girl groups I think you would really like Dreamcatcher! They're all extremely strong vocalists as far as I can tell! Regardless, thanks for the awesome video

@Alena-cq1ze

4 жыл бұрын

kiwisraeli YES

Please do Mamamoo and Dreamcatcher, they're super talented🥺🥺

Chaeyeong!! yes come through, JYP messed up for not giving her singing parts ugh.. why are my biases always treated unfairly

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr...most of all she is not even treated as the main rapper. She need a killer rap part where she can show her amazing talent in rapping. She should be given more opportunities to sing as well. And same, my bias always happen to be the most under appreciated members. Chaeyoung and Jeongyeon from TW, Chaeryeong from ITZY, and Wheein from Mamamoo. I guess it's because I see them differently and recognize their charms more than others.

Finally someone who has a honest and unbiased ranking. Thank You for appreciating Chaeyoung and Jeongyeon vocals. 😘

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, Chaeyoung and Jeongyeon have amazing vocals!

My jaw dropped when you put Sana that low I wasn’t expecting that at all!!!

@hyunaroseortaeyeonpleasema1601

4 жыл бұрын

Jimin’s side hoe Your pic and what you said perfect combo....I couldn’t help but laugh 😂

@junhui6268

4 жыл бұрын

Only True Onces know what Sana's capability in Vocals really. He just look at some videos of them and tend to judge only on what he sees. Esp when JYP is like pushing her to be more of vocalist nowadays

@peachtea9878

4 жыл бұрын

@@junhui6268 yes I agree with you!! JYP like to put Sana on chorus more.

@junhui6268

4 жыл бұрын

@@peachtea9878 i love to see her to sang the chorus this comeback.

@areyousureyouenteredyourna6367

4 жыл бұрын

your profile pic matches what you said

I don't know if you know this already but for MOST kpop companies, even if they are signing you to be a rapper all of the artists have to have at least some singing abilities to be signed. Alot of rappers are great singers because some of them initially wanted to be a vocalist but somebody in the group needs to be the rapper and it doesn't have to he the weakest singer but just rather the best rapper. Chaeyoung, joohoney, chanyeol are examples of excellent singers but they are also the best rappers of the group so they didn't get vocalist positions

@chaeyoungslovie

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Also Chaeyoung wanted to be a rapper, she’s always had a lot of passion in becoming a rapper. She’s been writing almost all her lyrics for her rap verse and she is self taught.

I actually spent 1 year stanning twice thinking that Nayeon is kind of a weak vocalist. I did not expect her to be this high because I thought her voice sounded forced especially when she sang higher but you really changed my mind on that. She does have a great kpop girl group kind of voice. And sounds way more stable than most of the other members. Thanks!

@BuffyunaTV

4 жыл бұрын

really?! She's always the one that sings over the less confident girls when they do their encore performances.

@Maria-nv7bk

4 жыл бұрын

She’s amazing, in rainbow she sings a SUPER high note and it was amazing ahahah

@zeniakaramali5633

4 жыл бұрын

@@Maria-nv7bk Nayeon did that whistle note??? Goddamn I never noticed.

@luvaria8429

4 жыл бұрын

@@zeniakaramali5633 unfortunately that was just an instrument

@melisa-wy2um

4 жыл бұрын

catplushies really? I read she just said that as a joke LMAO

Mina got the least vocal training having little to basically none. If she were to train as long as Jihyo or even the other members she could do sooo well

@witchofbabylon5021

4 жыл бұрын

I'm confused how she could improve though. Her voice isn't very powerful, and that just seems to be because of how her vocal cords are.

@theeepidural6144

4 жыл бұрын

Witch Of Babylon anyone can improve there is always room for improvement. And she is commonly singing in falsetto. If she developed her chest and head voice more she can improve. She hasn’t shown any strain in her falsetto range yet so we don’t know her full range yet. If she were to get training I feel like she could really be a lead vocalist

@witchofbabylon5021

4 жыл бұрын

Kamron Dunnah She basically has been a lead vocalist as she consistently gets more lines than Jeongyeon lol

@theeepidural6144

4 жыл бұрын

Witch Of Babylon I don’t care whether or not she gets treated as a lead vocalist. The skill and quality is what matters and what I mean is she can be lead vocal material

@witchofbabylon5021

4 жыл бұрын

Kamron Dunnah Ok? No need to be rude, was just pointing it out.

jeongyeons voice gives me life tbh

I agree with pretty much everything except Jeongyeon isn't a Mezzo. She just doesn't have a high tessitura like Nayeon. I think its Bb3-Bb4 When I heard her sing I couldn't think anything but Soprano. Light Lyric to be exact. She is just best in the 4th octave. She gets chesty and strains above Bb4 sometimes like her high note in one in a million.(Best part of the song tho

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert of identifying differences in female voice types. I'm not even gonna lie about that! But yeah you're probably right there. But thank you for watching an enjoying though!

That’s a good point about Jeongyeon’s voice lacking character in the higher keys. I’ve always thought that despite her being one of the best singers technically in Twice, her voice didn’t have as much of an interesting tone as someone like Nayeon, who while technically worse, is very distinct. But I never considered that it could just be the music not lending itself to her.

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

To me her voice is very interesting. Her voice is special to me, it’s very rich and deep. But yea Nayeon’s is more distinct

Twice badly need vocal training. They have so much potential as a group and it's painful imagining that it'd go to waste. ESPECIALLY, Nayeon, Jeongyeon and Jihyo.

My Vocal Ranking (I love ALL of the members so please don’t hate me) 1. Jihyo 2. Jeongyeon 3. Nayeon 4. Chaeyoung 5. Mina 6. Tzuyu 7. Sana 8. Dahyun 9. Momo

@JuliaTDI23

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, but I would only put Nayeon above Jeongyeon. Anyway, I respect your opinion and Jeongyeon remains a great vocalist. Her vocals should be more recognized.

@ihatesnakeuwhycuzsnakeuyougot

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly my list.

@makesparkzfly

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m conflicted whether to put Jeongyeon or Nayeon second. I’ve changed my rankings after people yelled at me to put Nayeon second and also after people yelled at me to put Jeongyeon second. Maybe I should just put them tied

@glamourzen9040

4 жыл бұрын

your list is correct. jihyo-jeongyeon-nayeon is definitely what experts who actually listen to all their content would answer.

@lianayeonyny

4 жыл бұрын

i respect your ranking but i think nayeon should be in no 2 ;)

Being in JYP isn't doing any service to most of these girls any service in terms of developing their singing voice. JYP makes them sing in this half air voice style that he likes. He and his artist have said in numerous videos that that's the signature style of JYP artists and they are all trained to sing in that style. If that style doesn't fit you, well tough luck.

@felmargego2534

4 жыл бұрын

That sucks! He needs to cut that shit out!

@j.b.a667

3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is, most of the best vocalists in jyp ignored that shit lmao

Your ranking was well-considered and well-articulated. 👍 I think Tzuyu has improved to the point that I would put her ahead of Mina but it's very close. I was a bit surprised you ranked JY above Nayeon but I think you justified your view. ✌🏼️

@witchofbabylon5021

4 жыл бұрын

Mig Y I think Mina is just overall a better singer than Tzuyu. Tzuyu seems to be off-key frequently.

@migy5031

4 жыл бұрын

Witch Of Babylon I haven't found Tzuyu to be pitchy but her projection is rather weak. Mina and Tzuyu have very different voices so I think it comes down to preference. ✌🏼️

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed Tzuyu has improved so much. If this were a few years ago I would've ranked her 7th and below Sana and Mina but she has proved us wrong. She grew so much and I think now she is capable of being a lead vocalist. She still has problems with her pitch accuracy, but that has improved as well.

you should do one for lovelyz! your vocal analyses are really well-thought out and it’d be interesting to see that with lovelyz. i’ve been thinking most of these but have never been able to put it into words haha

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of those guys I'll certainly check them out.

Hello. Thank you for making a vocal ranking on my favourite group. I also think Jyeongyeon has a very good voice. I would reccomend you to listen to Like a fool by Twice. Jyeongyeon's voice sounded good to me in that song.

YESSS thanks for appreciating jeongyeon!! my favorite voice as well

Now imagine if NY, JY, and JH get the SM vocal training. I’ve been stanning Twice for 4 yrs now and their untapped vocal potential still frustrates me and that half-air half-sound technique JYP loves to use got to go.

@dorothy5784

3 жыл бұрын

jihyo and jeongyeon ignore that technique.. while nayeon used that technique a lot

@trishak15

3 жыл бұрын

@@dorothy5784 i have to disagree. Of the three, Jihyo has the most developed vocal technique. It's just that Nayeon is more consistently stable, but stability doesn't always mean better technique. Even as a Nayeon stan, I admit that she tends to get shouty and strains in some of her high notes but this is because producers have them sing in pitch that are beyond their comfortable range. Which will lead me back to my main argument of Twice's untapped potential because producers don't exactly utilize their voices in such a way that would show off each member's vocal colors.

@luvaria8429

3 жыл бұрын

Don't Jeongyeon and Jihyo ignore that though?

*here's the time laps cuz this video is almost 30min long :D* 😎 Momo 0:53 Sana 3:11 Dahyun 5:41 Tzuyu 8:54 Mina 11:48 Chaeyoung 14:45 Nayeon 17:34 Jeongyeon 20:16 Jihyo 23:39 ;)😉

,I LOVE JEONGYEON TOO!!!

I was waiting for you to have this Vocal Ranking Video of Twice. Thank You and btw, I love your thoughts about the idols from different groups.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much

I hope more and more will give better voice placements, like a Momo rap and a jeongyeon lower key part.

Chaeyoung reminds me too Han from SKZ multi talented main rappers

This is one of the most informative and articulate videos that rank kpop vocals. Good video!

love it! ❤️ if you ever gonna analyze SNSD, I suggest do an OT9 version, bcs Jessica was a main vocal and she has a lot to offer

Chaeyoung just need to have confidence in her singing, she's really good and could do so much more

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.....she knows she's capable of it she even said herself that she sings as good as she rap. But she's not confident in her singing. She is literally an amazing singer and all she needs to work on is her confidence. She knows she can do it!

GOD JIHYO MY LOVE!!!!

So, I'm not an expert on this topic like you are, but I have to disagree on one point you made about Mina's voice. I think she has one of the most recognizable voices in Twice. Her tone has an extreme softness to it, that I could pick out very early on when listening to Twice. Her's is also my favorite voice in this group along with Chaeyoung and Jeongyeon.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I think my opinion on mina's voice may change with time and repeated listens. But I just struggle to pick her voice out right now. Not fully sure why that is. But as I say, that could change. She is still a good singer though.

@nikolaiquack8548

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 Sometimes it takes time. I had my problems with picking out Sana and Tzuyu at first. Still kind of do, actually.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaiquack8548 if I'm honest alot of them sound super similar to me, I had to really intently listen to slight differences to make this ranking.

@aghegalaxy2512

4 жыл бұрын

oh, we have an intellectual here 😏

@josephine9597

4 жыл бұрын

Mina was one of the first voices I could recognize when I got into twice 🤔

omg your explanations are all facts and true your videos are the best and the most honest videos thank you

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Oh thank you very much for that, that was really kind of you 😊

Jeongyeon is my favourite vocalist in twice, i'm so glad i found someone agreeing with me

Please do Oh My Girl! Their top 4 vocalists are soooooo talented.

@Blanka767

4 жыл бұрын

barelyfunctioning Top 5** 💕

@barelyfunctioning3982

4 жыл бұрын

Blankinha moto táxi vrum vrumm Who’s the fifth? I was talking about Seunghee, Hyojung, YooA, and Binnie. No offense but Jiho is not the best vocalist, not that I don’t love her! The other four just have a boost in technique compared to her

@Blanka767

4 жыл бұрын

barelyfunctioning She's acually Lead Vocal, Binnie is just vocalist

@barelyfunctioning3982

4 жыл бұрын

Blankinha moto táxi vrum vrumm I know she is officially but if you look at their actual technique Binnie is a better singer

@choerrysmaid6299

4 жыл бұрын

barelyfunctioning binnies voice lacks range and emotion for me

thank you for appreciating tzuyu's voice!

Great video, lately I'm addicted to this series and watched nearly all of it~ I can not wait to see video with Mamamoo ^^ I would also suggest you checking on Dreamcatcher, as they have pretty unic style and voices, so maybe you also will find them interesting.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for watching all the videos!! Means alot 😊 and mamamoo will be in a few episodes time. And as for dreamcatcher, I'm hearing their name alot. So I promise I will at least check them out!!

yep, nayeon usually gets alot of lines bc she has that kpop idol voice, and her voice suites the songs that twice sings. while jeongyeon is really underused bc she suites more mature tones. as much as we love her voice, jeongyeon stans have to realize that kpop is a business. as much as we wish that she could get more lines, twice isnt at that point where theyre letting go of their higher pitch. so: if she wasnt in twice, which group do you think she would fit the best in?

listen to one of their lastest release “Firework” Jeongyeon is singing in the chorus like she deserve it

Pleeeease do this with Loona, they’re 12 girls and A LOT of them are very very strong vocalists, around 7/12 of the members have the potential to be a main vocal and even Jinsoul the main rapper is able to do belt notes. They have very different voices and are very interesting and also unique.

Imagine Jeongyeon trained under SM vocal coaches

@funkystyle7249

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes I wish Jeongyeon accepted SM's acceptance back then just for receive their training

@JS-st8pp

3 жыл бұрын

She would be a main vocal material

@HuhYunjine

3 жыл бұрын

i even imagined that '-'

@shuangshuangguo

3 жыл бұрын

@@JS-st8pp u underestimate sm's vocalists, she might not even be able to debut in sm. because sm has their own visual standard and also her singing techniques is not the best among plenty of sm's good vocalists

@JS-st8pp

3 жыл бұрын

@@shuangshuangguo I said "main vocal material" jeongyeon us already stronger as a vocalist than some SM idols and fit better the visual standart than some lmao.

Another great video from you :) I really like when you pop up on my subscription box because your analysis is really detailed and interesting, even for a person who doesn´t have great knowledge in singing technique. I am really excited for your NCT 127 video, haha before you said it I was literally about to comment asking for it.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! Its really nice to know people enjoy my content and actively wait for my videos to come out. Really means alot. Thank you for supporting the channel. I hope you enjoy all the videos to come 😊

Jyp makes song on his range. He should consider range of women.

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

IKR, he’s so selfish and biased too.

I couldn't agree more on your ranking! Goodjob men! looking forward to your future uploads. Keep it up men

couldn't agree more on Jeongyeon

nice video! but i think from a pure audience's stand point, Mina's voice is so unique to her. The voice itself might not stand out as compared to other stronger k-pop vocals but it matches so well with her image and personality. When I first started listening to Twice's songs, I would immediately recognize Mina's voice. I think that alone makes her stand out amongst her peers.

you know your group has great vocals when the main rapper is in the top 5

@chaeyoungslovie

3 жыл бұрын

Yep and people still have the audacity to say Twice can't sing. Twice are more vocally talented than people think. Much better than a lot of girl groups if you ask me.

about momo's "fake voice"... listen to her performances of the way you love me and swing baby in sixteen, you'll hear the voice is a lot less high and nasal

After watching this, I can see why Jeongyeon got a lot of lines in Cry For Me vs regular cute/high tone concepts of TWICE's song 🤔

Just for reference c: 1. Jihyo 2. Jeongyeon 3. Nayeon 4. Chaeyoung 5. Mina 6. Tzuyu 7. Dahyun 8. Sana 9. Momo

Can you also do IZ*ONE Ranking?

🥳🥳 girl group time!

thank you for finally recognizing dahyun's voice

I feel with Twice that they can have very pleasantly surprising studio moments (particularly Momo Sana and Jeongyeon) but not hold up live. So its hard bc I feel theyre underrated vocally but most of them are hit or miss depending the performance. More than other groups :/

Great video!! Not kpop related, but would love it if you could give your opinion on Little Mix, since I have a hard time deciding who is the strongest one out of the 4 😅 thanks!!

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Someone asked me this before, I'm not gonna lie I don't like little mix at all. So I won't do a video on them. But my opinion I think would be 4. Leigh Ann - a smooth, flexible if somewhat unremarkable voice, 3. Jessie - not the best technically, but a really unique smokey low mezzo soprano voice with a decent lower tone 2. Jade - classic higher sitting soprano with a strong mixed tone and piercing high notes, good agility 1. Perrie - power singer, most robust fully connected sound, strongest mix with the best fully connected range, also by far the most consistent instrument.

im living for the jeongyeon appreciation

Wow he really went off with Jeongyeon LOL, loved it!

Jeongyeon is a very precious gem but JYP keeps on wasting her talent

hard agree - although certain members are more stable singing live than others (which a lot of other rankings see as a basis for criticism), from an objective standpoint their vocals match your ranking 100%