I have been doing BJJ for almost two years. I think what makes people love the art so much is the live training element. I feel like if I did get accosted and taken to the ground - unless my aggressor is fully trained - I might stand a chance of defending myself. I did Shotokan for some years and always felt like the Kumite was almost a separate beast - that it didn't really line up with what we were learning through forms.... but what it did bring was an unwavable feeling of power. I knew that I would never have to hit anyone because Karate brings this presence of confidence, and if I did, I would be hitting really hard. Aikido and I had a short fling. I wanted to train because of the utter peace that being in the dojo brought. The movements were slow and calm. Training was designed to show the limits of human balance and structure. It can be a gentle art. In fact, one of my prime problems with my BJJ training is that there are few people that I have trained with that arent trying to muscle their way through the techniques or go full competition mode in every roll. I think as I get older my interests in the martial arts are becoming less about self defense and more about a sense of connection, feeling the energy of another person and seeing what clues I can detect from their movements.

Rumor has it that a little age and a beard amplifies your aiki energy, much love

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

This is true

I really liked the video, I started Aikido back in 1995 and have seen different iterations and at one instance attended a school that trained aiki-jutsu. I appreciate seeing these in-depth perspectives of the art to determine efficacy (or lack thereof) and what can be done to improve it. You've definitely earned a subscriber.

Hein has solved all question I ever had about Aikido! Real wisdom through life experience.

Nice! A Martial Arts hidden gem channel!!!

As a complete layman who is interested in this stuff largely because 1) I'm male, and 2) I'm a writer of fantasy and that kind of thing, I found the videos, contextualizing Aikido as techniques used against someone wielding a knife, to be _fascinating!_ It took a kind of slow, somewhat oddball martial art that seemed to never actually involve the practitioner having a setup against his opponent, and put it into a situation where you pretty much _naturally_ flow into the techniques. Since you have an interest in grabbing the opponent's wrist, and the opponent has an interest in continuing to wield his knife, the struggle ceases to be one in which either of you wants to break away easily: If he drops the knife to move away, he surrenders the deadly weapon; if you release his knife-hand, you yield the weapon to him and likely get stabbed for the allowance. Just from a simple, plain, logical perspective, this is amazing and amazingly simple.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found the videos useful!

Way to go. Combining Ba Gua Zhang with Aikido is what I did too. It works great! Sparring full contact is critical to the process.

This is very nice. I've been following your podcast for a while and it's nice to "see" some of what you're talking about. I really appreciate the humility of your approach. The video provoked me to raise a point that I feel has been missing from these "discussions" on Aikido effectiveness and that is the question of Uke and ukemi. To me, it seems that a big part of the self defense you learn in Aikido is in learning to take ukemi. I don't mean only the rolling and falling but also learning how to move and accomodate and seek connection and balance. I feel like this part of the picture gets left out.

Hi Chris. Really happy to see you have a new video out! Looking forward to seeing the rest.

Very interesting stuff! I can't wait for the next video!

Hi, thank you. I think your is the best research and the most professional in rediscovering the aikido's martial component. Waiting for the rest.

O'sensei and all his disciples were trained in different types of martial arts. Shioda Sensei, Tohei Sensei, Kenji Tomiki and Mochizuki had black belts in Judo and other martial arts.

This was interesting, very much anticipating the next one this series.

Great Great Great Great Video! I am not a student of Aikido, however I appreciate all martial arts. I truly enjoyed your honesty and warm energy. I liked and subscribed!

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Love the exploration! Keep going.

Thanks for the commentary and old demo!

Thankyou!Keep up the good work.Much appreciated!

Very explanatory, Chris. Well done and thank you.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Todd!

Love it. I look forward to the next one.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you, so helpful and inspiring!

I think that was a good explanation of what Aikido was used for. It seems to be the only thing that makes sense in my humble opinion. Great presentation.

Awesome points. There's a lot of aikido-esque techniques in Filipino Martial Arts. And it makes sense that aikido is a armed grappling art. Rather than a strict unarmed grappling art like BJJ or Judo. Kinda mindblown

@dradamov

2 жыл бұрын

Person that most impacted my transition from aikido to BJJ+Muay thai and later into FMA was T.K. Chiba (founder of Birankai federation). Fantastic, old-school teacher, and he always was hellbent on explaining that aikido's heritage is a weapon art first, and unarmed second. The unarmed part was revolutionary when these techniques first were defined, because it was giving a figthing chance against someone armed with a blade when you didnt have your weapon. But ultimately, you should have a mindset that you go for your primary weapon first, and if you have nothing else, you use unarmed techniques. I'll say, his summer training camps ended up forcing me to train more with staff, spear, knife and sword than with unarmed stuff. Just like in FMA, weapons are teaching tools to understand the combat mindset to apply to unarmed training in an exact same fashion. Sadly, "traditionally" (most of aikido schools and teachers) dont go for that mindset.

I love your videos and look forward to the rest of this series. I was part of a dojo that practice going up and down the resistance latter. Even saw my teacher successfully use aikido against bjj, boxing and wrestling. I rarely got to that level but it was great to see and have him explain what he was doing to be successful.

Very cool! Can't wait for the sequel!

I love this channel to the max.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Truly original and impressive thinking and attitude here. Love the experimental approach, especially the clinch and resistance offered by the attacker. A few suggestions.. From the clinch you might have pressured hard directly into him to overcome his stiffness and setup a reaction for various go-behind/irimi movements with two arms on the knife, instead of only one. Also, you weren't using your head like a wrestler to setup the duck under and arm spins which are both in Aikido. But, very interesting lessons here. Loved it.

Hats off! Great work!

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Enjoyed that, good video.

nice! Thank you for explaining your thought process and how it developed. I very curious as to how the journey progressed.

Thank for sharing. Great information. 🙏🙏🙏

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Vien!

Nice Sensei, pure knowledge 👌

Interesting. Looking forward to see more sparring!

Super interesting!

So i've always been interested in martial arts and just a few minutes ago i emailed in my enrollment forms for my first classes(jeet kune do) and i have to say your perspective is fascinating. I'm subscribing because your perspective and attitude is incredibly inspiring.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations, that's a great first step! Glad you enjoy the channel!

I think the most important part of that is the change in context. I have practiced Aikido since 1999 and what I discovered is that an alive training method does not work if both participants are attempting to do the same thing. I.E. defeat/overwhelm/kick the ass of the other guy. The video you showed with one guy doing one thing (cutting the other guy with a knife) and the other guy trying to take it away is an important distinction. Each participant has a different goal. One thing I like to do is use a line on the ground (made with tape or a seam in the mat, whatever) and have one person try to drag or push the other over that line. The person that is trying not to go over the line tends to have pretty good success using Aikido techniques. Of course you ramp up the intensity, speed, and amount of effort the fist guy puts in as well as adding counters to the second guy's techniques.

@scottcatchot1598

5 ай бұрын

I appreciate your information. I made it to Brown prior to the school. Did training in Judo up to green,which pairs very well. In playing with my own journey to get the Aikido more functional, I find (and it was a point my instructors constantly made) was the need to use atemi, and nuit just as distraction, but good functional atemi that would provide an opening for a lock. You may address this in your other stuff, if so, im sure I'll come accross it. Thanks for your content.

Interesting stuff. And much respect for your journey! I have never trained actual aikido, but I did train hapkido for several years and also was in LE for 7 years where our control tactics utilized lots of standing wrist and arm locks like you find in aikido. Imo, those techniques “work” in the sense that they are painful and can damage joints. But in application they really only work in 2 situations. The first is when you have a significant size and strength advantage and can simply impose your will. Like, if you can just grab someone’s wrist and strong arm then without them pulling away, then you can land that standing wrist or arm lock. The second situation is if the opponent is not actively resisting. This can be a case where you catch them by surprise, or a case like LE often face where a subject is refusing to comply but is not actively combative. I have found, however, that in any other case, especially when an opponent is actively fighting you, these techniques are almost impossible to pull off. And hence “don’t work” in most cases. Honestly, I always felt like Ueshiba took what was meant to be a niche part of jujutsu and turned it into a whole system. But devoid of the context of the rest, it lost effectiveness. And I think the thing that is necessary to gain effectiveness, which is full speed and power sparring and/or competition,is difficult to do because the techniques are indeed dangerous and tough to pull off safely on a training partner or fellow competitor.

excellent video ! Keep it up

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Rashid!

The first martial art I got into was Aikido, I did in fact use some techniques as a teenager in school fights. as a supplement with striking arts, Aikido has value. but by itself it's very hard to use.

This is what i like about martial arts.

Great! 🙏

great and honest video, i going the opposit way, since the 90s ive training and competing in full contact sports and now i am starting to realize that the goals in aikido training, are exactly what iam looking for in matrial arts training, ....I come to the conclusion that aikido training itself doesnot prepare you for fighting, only fighting does. But when you know how to fight, than you get the feel for the setups needed, to perform true aikido techniques (which i found to be great)

Hi thank you for sharing your experiences with everyone. I've fall in love with aïkido three years ago and I'm doing alright. It's like esoteric psychology with body contact ! But I know for sure now thanks to Jean Carrillo and your kind of approach that without any sparring and live training it will never be efficient in the street if needed, as you would expect it to be from any MA. Though Aïkido is effective to learn effective principles I really like your search and it's ashame most sensei stay only traditional and don't explore. Even if Aïkido is perfect on paper, aikidoka need to practice with real atemi otherwise there is a key element lacking to real situation in order to surprise and unbalance and oponent. Also I realised, if the gold goal of Aïkido is to have the choice of preserving and protecting an oponent and ourself, you got too be better than him. You canot do this if you're weaker. Therefore if you're better you could also be lethal n'y choice. And we don't really train with this mindset. It's like trying to pick-up only one side of a coin. It's absurd. Thank you

More!

I'm surprised Tm Cartmell wasn't able to help you bring out the Aikido in sparring. He does Bagua and Taichi, and from what I hear, he knows how to apply them.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Tim was a huge help- but his focus is on unarmed martial arts. My journey has been about learning the importance of context. Tim's focus is different than the focus of Aikido.

@ambulocetusnatans

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani That's true. My sensei always said that Aikido is Kenjutsu without the sword, but I tend to think that's only part of the story.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

In my experience, you are correct- it's only part of the story!

Years ago i had a kenjutsu instructor that would sometimes catch me with some aikido ish disarms and takedowns. He never formally trained but showed me the book he learned the techniques from. Ever since i've thought aikido made a lot more sense when thought of as a weapons style.

Hein's great video ,watched many of yours ,Question for you ,when you were looking at weapon work were you always the one that was unarmed ? or should I say was always one person unarmed ,reason I ask is because as I have gotten older I realized only sport styles are truly empty handed work and majority of traditional styles are based on weapon retention ,does not matter if its karate blocks ,or simply center locks ,wrist locks or ikkyo type movements ,it comes from drawing and cutting or simply retaining your weapon of choice . love to hear your perspective on my thoughts . thankyou

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you're enjoying the videos! I look at all weapon situations, unarmed facing armed, armed facing armed and armed facing unarmed.

Back when I was training in judo and karate, my cousin would practice Aikido and as we both progressed into our black belts we had that kind of a discussion about aikido (because I'd seldom practice Aikido techniques with him), about where does it's viability exactly lie in actual combat and we both kind'a agreed that its mostly old jujutsu techniques of fighting against a sword and a stick (jo). However today I do think it could yet be a lot more, because judo also came from old armed combat jujutsu techniques and all they did was add a little salt and pepper to it and it took the world by storm (yes I'm winking at BJJ because c'mon its basically judo c'mon). so what I'm saying with all this rambling basically, is that I'm happy to see somebody who's trying to put that salt and pepper into aikido - to find the missing link between the techniques and their application in actual combat which in my opinion ought to look very similar to how randori in judo looks like because, after all, aikido is a grappling technique in it's essence. so in a closing statement - god bless you on your journey towards the aforementioned goal. I await anxiously towards the day aikido would take it's rightful spot in the limelight alongside the other popular fighting systems and I'm sending you my best wishes and rooting for your success and of those who will follow you, Godspeed hein sir.

Great video! My tai chi mentor and I are going through a similar process, to repurpose/rediscover the lost treasure of our art. Looking forward to the next one!

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work!

I like what you do. Still a very aiki throw yourself bias for sure. Far better than most other clubs ive seen

sparring with judo/wresling boxing/kendo makes you grow,if not its just fancy movment,

Love this vid. I'm not a big fan o aikido. But I love traditional jujitsu. Having done alot of research I would say if you are a beginner looking at aikido, or judo, but are going for pure self defence. Just train traditional jujitsu, which includes strikes. I fought alot as a kid so boxing was my first. Then I picked up jujutsu/sambo and just know some tech really helped. I liked aikido as a kid for the way it looked. But I prefer jujutsu or combat sambo. Also have to create that fighting mindset. Cant be afraid to get hurt. Learned the hard way you can't be afraid to hurt your attacker. I think your approach is great and can bring trade aikido into a more aggressive form. On that I would love to spar. Good luck out there y'all. All together I've been in a dojo/gym maybe 6weeks. I use what has been effective for me.

I woud love to start aikido training in the future

You fight the way you train

Welll the goal was 3 or so months of Aikido then enroll in Gracie BJJ or TKD or Boxing. Guess things are different now.

Hi Chris thanks for the great content. Longtime aikidoka myself. Did you and your training partner in the videos exclude atemi on purpose at the time and decided just to attempt the techniques without it? Or was atemi something that came later in your training? Thanks for your time?

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Michael does atemi many times in the video. If you have a weapon, using it to make atemi is a great idea, if you don't have a weapon, most of the time it's better to use your hands for grabbing. I think it's important to understand the difference between boxing and atemi- it can be a tricky subject! Thanks for the comments!

Great work done! One question occurs to me while I watch this video - why so many people think that Aikido suitable to modern concept of grappling sparring? There are few occupations that apply force on duty like police officers or bouncers but I never heard they sparr with opponent on duty.

I can't remember names, but at least two Aikido Dojos went the same way as you. I think that this is a good thing...

Thank you. I had much of the same experiences with Kung Fu. As to the knife work. As a current practitioner of Arnis. Wrist holds rarely work. It would be like putting a head lock on a bjj black belt. Possible, but highly unlikely.

The only thing I can think of as a fellow Aikidoka is “ATEMI”!!! Where is your “Atemi”?? At some point the use of a strike is indicated and very useful. If not to Stop your opponent from focusing totally of the knife attack but to inflict enough temporary pain to at least distract “Uke” enough to allow “Nage” to use a technique meant to disarm. Certainly, in tour Aikido training you’ve learned and used “Atemi” no?

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

This is a comment I see a lot- and I think it comes from a place of not understanding the situation. First, the word Atemi means simply to hit the body. However when most people say Atemi they mean (as I believe you do here) unarmed striking. If you understand the true meaning of the word Atemi you will see there is lots of Atemi being done in this video (I even highlighted Michael cutting my wrist to see the Atemi he was making on me). Now if you mean unarmed striking (like boxing) you are correct we didn't do it in this practice. There are many reasons for this, but the most important as far as this practice goes is that if we make it about the striking: A: the focus (if we did unarmed striking) would be on attrition and not skill/technique- if I can take more punches than Michael can I win, if he can take more than me he'll win. The purpose here is to see if the technology used in Aikido can work in a live situation. would striking make doing a technique easier to do, yes BUT his striking would make it easier for him to resist- so it's a wash. B: If I am striking him unarmed and he is striking me armed- it's a bad trade for me (weapon beats first). If I am holding his weapon hand with one hand and punching him with the other it's a bad trade unless I am stronger than him (see reason A)- and I'm less likely to control the weapon by using only one of my hands. So the only Atemi that we are allowing here is Michaels- the reason is because those strikes are precisely the ones that Aikido techniques should stop.

Well aiki jujitsu comes from baguachang. There is even a book that explains this written about ushiba. You need to look at how like Jiang Rong bagua is applied, its the most common form. I believe tim cartmel trained in bagua.

Great video, aikido makes so much sense if you have spared in other sports. I joined the aikido world later in life, and I tried to box, grapple, and any sneaky attack I could think of. I lost every time!! After about five years of getting my ass kicked, I learned that aikido makes everything else efficient.

Wrestling with weapons!!! That's insane! Who would do such thing?! Has to be out of its mind! XD I really liked the way you explained your case. (and you got a nice point there!) Hope to see the next videos!

If you could only study 3 arts, one for striking, one for grappling, and one to deal with weapons then what would they be and why? I think this could be a good idea for a video but if you don't then I'm still very interested in know your answer!

@Daniel_Cooley

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also love to know witch you'd choose if you could only pick one art for all 3

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

I would guess by striking you mean unarmed striking, but I think it's valuable to keep in mind that striking is best done with something hard and/or sharp in the hand. But if it has to be unarmed I'd pick Muay thai- you're going to get the best return on investment. Grappling really depends on how old you are and what your goals are. In General I'd say BJJ because it's widely available, there are lots of people doing it (more training partners) and the context can generally deal with lots of grappling situations. As far as "dealing with weapons" again there are lots of details to hash out before I could give an educated answer, but grossly- for non projectile weapons I choose a good HEMA school, for modern concepts I'd look into Shiv Works, and start training pistol. Sorry those answers are not more concise, but there is A LOT of ground to cover there.

@Daniel_Cooley

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani I appreciate the time you took to answer my question. I was talking about none projectile weapons. We came up with very similar answers as far as non armed striking I'd say Muay Thai, grappling I'd say BJJ, and as far as knife fighting I have way less experience but I'd probably pick Kali. I have like to no knife fighting training, just from watching KZread videos and practicing on my Century Bob. I'd just assume a knife fighting art would be the best since besides my firearm, a knife is the only weapon I keep on me. Hopefully it never gets to the point where I have to use either of them though lol. I've trained in mma for about 3 years when I was a teenager, boxing for 2 years, Muay Thai for 2 or 3 years, and Bjj on and off for around 6 years now. I feel pretty confident that I can defend myself against an unarmed attacker and as far as guns are concerned I live in Texas and grew up shooting probably way too young lol. I have a firing range in my back yard so I practice different situations all the time so I'm confident with a firearm as well. I would love to learn a knife fighting style but theres nothing around where I live. The closest thing would be a Krav Maga gym and I've trained with several of those guys in the past and they suck as fighting so that doesn't give me much hope lol

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

You should check out craig douglas and shivworks if you haven't already.

it's something i ve noticed over the years about forms like kata or poomsae, basically most of the traditional blocks and motions are modified from sword&bucklar forms. you can see this more clearly in kalari payattu and as soon as you take a sword & bucklar into your hands and repeat the forms it will all come together... and lets be honest, who would train a military in unarmed combat forms when sharp sticks have been available forever... unarmed forms come way late in the game

Great! Guess you've seen the channel... Martial arts journey... Similar stuff... You are both very honest... I've done some aikido and karate etc... But both have their problems... As well as strengths...

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Rokas and I are planning to meet up and do some video's in the near-ish future. Glad you enjoyed it!

I love thus video and ur great attempts to add pressure testing to aikido I think that knife switches shouldnt be a thing in ur aikido sparring since nobody does it irl 😅

I love aikido

It makes more sense to me that much of Aikido is yes, weapons grappling, BUT it is OFFENSIVE weapons grappling. People often say "Why would I grab your wrist?" to which I say, "If I have a knife I guarantee you'll want to grab my wrist."

Maybe I see it wrong...but I think most people misinterpreted who is the person that grabs the wrists in the fight. Aikido is what happens when one of the combatant is unarmed and for this reason grabs arms and wrists. The person with the weapon then can do aikido techniques because that is likely the only reason the attacker does not want to leave your wrists: you got a weapon to kill him. Aikido is not self defence.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

I thought like this for a long while. In part two of this series that's exactly what I thought. But there are still lots of problems with this idea- I'll get to those in part three.

@Ilethsamael

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani all is worth to be explored. Surely the striking part is heavily lacking in aikido and I recall that Weshiba had the art created as a war art. I think that the intention of aikido was a flowing martial art that focused on an ever ready upright stance. Missing the striking teachings is a huge loss.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Yes the striking must be a part of your Aikido- but not unarmed striking. The upright flowing part I believe comes from an aesthetic that has a functional root.

@Ilethsamael

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani Yes, I thought as well that Aikido striking is mostly weapon striking like swords and short swords. I think the whole Aikido trope is: stay stable, face multiple enemies with your sword/spear, move in an efficient way to face the right number, prevent them to disable your weapon and use their attempts at disarming you as a chance to throw them to deal a fatal strike. In a way Aikido should be more suitable for "Hema" competition than unarmed martial art.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

I came to my understanding of Aikido in three stages- what you are describing is my second stage of understanding- and I must say you are pretty preceptive because most people don't get the truth of the above statement you are making.

For any martial art to be combat effective, full contact free style sparring is absolutely necessary. Modern Aikido, Tai Chi and most of the Chinese internal martial arts lacks this! Kata (drills/fixed patterns) are only for learning the techniques. Its impossible to learn to be effective on the street, the battlefield on in an MMA ring without the practice of free sparring.

So, do you feel that Aikido is a weapons-bases Budo?

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

That's a question I had for a really long time... and I'll tell you all about it in the next two videos! Thanks for watching!

@billh.1940

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes, yes.

0:36 JESUS! I am deaf now! What's up with that crazy loud bell sound?!

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry about that one...

Now the fight concept is more like a mma or duel, the ancients martial arts were for battles.

Well, what you have stated makes sense, because Aikido comes from Aikijujitsu. Hapkido does as well. Aikido, Hapkido, Judo, BJJ, all come from Jujitsu. I have noticed during BJJ seminars and classes that a lot of what is called self defense, is basically old school Aikijujitsu. Regardless, I dislike all the negativity around Aikido. One time long ago in 1988 before I ended up in Hapkido and later Kickboxing, BJJ, and finally MMA, I went to the Baltimore Aikido club. I thought it looked beautiful. The movements were grace defined.

Tim Carmel FTW

Did somebody already showed this to Rokas from Martial Arts journey? lol

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

We chat pretty regularly.

Im thinking the end revelation will be that aikido is about arm grappling with the goal of getting away (making an accord?) I look at old kendo when they had more grappling pre WW2, from some chadi videos and footsweeps and such got more important for their style Also, the pronunciation of seoi nage bothered me a bit, I believe its SE-O- ee Naa-gay. But the people around here will say it seoi nagi which is also wrong (imo).

That Charlie Z reference lol

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Glad someone caught that!

3:30 4:50

20 yearssss!!!! Sorry!

Very often you need to strike you opponent first off simultaneously to pull of the majority of techniques. When two people are just struggling trying to force a technique- not sure what that is?😎

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

If you have to strike an opponent in order for a technique to work, it's a very bad grappling technique. If you have to do a technique after you strike someone, you're not very good at striking. If you are struggling to force technique it's called fighting.

The only issue I see is the complete lack of strikes. Sure he's got a knife, but he'd still be throwing punches and kicks and grappling. It was a decent starting place though.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Punches and kicks hurt and bruise, blades eviscerate and decapitate. Unarmed strikes are a joke compared to weapon strikes- if you're full of adrenaline only the most powerful strikes will stop you (exceptions being lucky strikes that knock you out). With a blade even a grandma can kill with very little force. If you had to kick box with a K1 kickboxer, I doubt anyone would take you seriously- however if you had a blade in your hand and he didn't- I wouldn't bet against you.

@johnnycaralta

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani You overestimate the effectiveness of weapons, particularly knives. A human pumped full of adrenaline can take multiple slashed and stabs just as easy as a punch to the face. Even easier according to multiple people who've described being hit with a blade. I've yet to hear someone say they got stabbed one time and they gave up the fight. Take the elderly woman who was stabbed in the neck with something like a 6+in knife and didn't even know it until somebody stopped her in a store and told her. My original point wasn't about the effectiveness, it was about the presence. If you grabbed the wrist of my hand holding a knife, or anybody's in a real fight, I would immediately deck you with the other hand, or throw an elbow, a headbutt, or a knee. You didn't account for any of that on the video, which eliminates the legitimacy of the art being displayed in the given context. The example of me (untrained in striking) with a knife versus a professional kickboxer is completely inaccurate in my opinion. I would still get destroyed, unless I land a lucky shot to the throat or the face or a vital organ. Even then, it's almost always gonna take more than one to stop any fighter who's worth their salt. I like the idea of the video, and it's a solid step in the direction of trying to un-meme aikido, if you will. I just find that the necessary variables were omitted, rendering any conclusion moot. I understand this was from 2007 and I'm sure you've refined your art since then, I just wanted to share the criticism that went through my mind while watching.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think unarmed strikes are better than armed stiles is my point. If you punched a guy six times in the chest unarmed vs six times armed which would be more successful. You have a point about striking- but In my opinion once you've become accustomed to being struck you will ignore all but the most powerful shots. Would unarmed striking change the outcome between us in this situation, maybe- but those changes would have been outside of what we were trying to figure out.

Ok I see you ! So aikido is really an armed combat defense? Because trying to do aikido against an armed person ie a person with a bat or a stick or a sword etc. because a person punching or kicking seems me doesn’t work to well against right? So if you’re committed by swinging or trying to stab you with a weapon I can see that Aikido would be useful in those instances. Not against someone throwing jabs or leg kicks and so on because those are snapping punches.

Damn that ding is way to loud😱

That's more real life.

A lot of people say that Aikido is useless in an MMA cage, but that's not what it's made for. Aikido is made for on the streets situations like cops and bouncers on the job. Cops and bouncers all over the world use Aikido everyday that they work, so there is just no way that someone can tell me that Aikido is useless.

@coltonowens2742

2 жыл бұрын

Aikido wasn't created for anything. It's an idea from a man, who already had an extensive knowledge of martial arts. If anything it's a different approach to training then traditional jujitsu, BJJ, or Judo.

Ever heard of a guy called Tomiki?

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, but Tomiki's work didn't answer all of the questions I had- just like Ueshiba's work didn't answer all of Tomiki's questions, and Takeda's work didn't answer all of Ueshiba's questions and on and on.

@CJ-uf6xl

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChuShinTani fair enough, I would keep an eye on Tomiki Aikido though, it's evolving, and surprisingly quickly! Thank you for the reply, and I wish you all the best in your endeavours.

Your story is like stepping on hundred-dollar bills to pick up monopoly money.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

I see how you might feel that way- I actually feel the opposite.

Aikido/Jujutsu works best with atemi. Some striking against face, stomach, groin and legs are necessary to proper set up successful joint techniques.

@ChuShinTani

2 жыл бұрын

It works best with a weapon in the hand.

looks like tomiki aikido amatter tomiki aikido has randori

It sounds like you were fighting everybody else fight .but your fight

The early stuff looks like judo if I am being honest

Congratulations.. you basically invented HAMA (instead of HEMA) lol

@Quodge

2 жыл бұрын

The knife work could be seen as a form of experimental archeology to reveal how the techniques work, not contained in manuscript as in HEMA but passed down from person to person

Great video, but you could do without the 'dings.' awfully obnoxious.

Should've stuck with jui jitsu lmao aikido doesn't fucking work

@ChuShinTani

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao. You didn't even watch the video.