TV's First Gay Husbands?

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Did you know there was a gay couple that decided to get married on TV in 1976? Almost no one remembers Howard and Ed on the show "Mary Hartman, Mary Harman," but they were American primetime TV's first complex, sympathetic couple, and their discussions of coming out of the closet and getting married were decades ahead of their time.
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  • @AxelQC
    @AxelQC3 жыл бұрын

    "They're not brothers; they're gay!" My husband and I get asked if we are brothers all the time.

  • @NikkyKicks
    @NikkyKicks3 жыл бұрын

    As a gay man currently going about the process of getting married, this episode hits really close to home. I want to spend the rest of my life with my husband, but due to COVID and Barret's confirmation into SOCTUS, we rushed our wedding planning to an on paper union as soon as we can. It's surreal to think that I just got the right to marry five years ago, but not it's entirely possible I could have that right curtailed or even taken away outright.

  • @debbieomi

    @debbieomi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on your upcoming nuptials!

  • @jakespur6094

    @jakespur6094

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another one of the reasons Canada is the best country in the world. We appreciate diversity and don’t start wars. We are peacekeepers unlike the USA who are war mongerers.

  • @NikkyKicks

    @NikkyKicks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jakespur6094 I don't mean to be a downer here, but Canada has been committing genocide against the First Nations for generations, with continued violence to this day. The land rights of the sovereign Wet'suwet'en people have been threatened earlier this year in BC, and in NS the Miq'mak, their villages and their fishing equipment/harvest have been assaulted and destroyed in the last month. Those are probably the biggest things I can think of off the top of my head, but I'm sure if you talked to some minority Canadians they would absolutely not agree with your assessment. Canada outpaces the US in many facets, but it is far from perfect and ignoring that doesn't help anyone.

  • @JayteeStarr

    @JayteeStarr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jakespur6094 You don't have to rub it in. I think everyone here knows that, lol.

  • @NikkyKicks

    @NikkyKicks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@debbieomi thank you! We're still going to have a wedding, once everything settles, but having to do it this way has put a bit of a damper on things. Still, I can't wait to spend the rest of my life with my best friend and the most amazing man on the planet ☺️

  • @MarkLatimerRussell
    @MarkLatimerRussell3 жыл бұрын

    I brought this up to my dad after watching the episode. I was like “you know the guy who made all in the family?” Dad: “You mean Norman Lear” And I’m like “yeah he put the first gay couple on tv” Dad: “Are you talking about the show Mary Harman, Mary Harman” 😂

  • @ddoyle11
    @ddoyle113 жыл бұрын

    I do remember the sitcom All That Glitters. As a kid I was very amused watching the female characters treat men the way men treated women in reality. One of the characters would always slap her male secretary’s behind as he walked by her desk.

  • @emsguybob

    @emsguybob

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was so good and funny! I was like 15 and enjoyed both, addicted to MH2

  • @chrisleneil

    @chrisleneil

    3 жыл бұрын

    The theme tune is my wife’s go-to for karaoke!

  • @missmarymary6506

    @missmarymary6506

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg I used to stay up late after parents were asleep and watch...also prisoner cell block H

  • @missmarymary6506

    @missmarymary6506

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FirstnameLastnames it Really was! Serious Boss Lady on that show glammed up sexy and sassy!!

  • @rcruz4510

    @rcruz4510

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lois Nettleton played the boss and I think it was Gary Sandy who was her male secretary. I remember one scene where he was drinking a daquiri and she comes by and says "I don't understand why you men prefer to drink those popsicles."

  • @normanduke8855
    @normanduke88553 жыл бұрын

    Mary Hartman was quite the rage in its day, hardly obscure. The 60's and especially the 70's were like a volcano of gay liberation. Unfortunately, we ran into a strict Republican administration in 1980 with characters like Ed Meese. AIDS mowed down our best and brightest and Reagan was absolutely silent.

  • @jayfrank1913

    @jayfrank1913

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, he does give Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman short shrift in this one. It was pure parody and Louise Lasser and Mary Kay Place's performances in it were outstanding. I think Lasser's often improvised portrayal was her channeling what it was like to be married to Woody Allen.

  • @nicklemen

    @nicklemen

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve heard of it but I don’t think I’ve ever seen it in re-runs which is probably why it’s more “obscure” to younger people. Sadly I’ve never seen it.

  • @jordang7479
    @jordang74793 жыл бұрын

    I asked my mom about this and she remembered it! It was a show she "wasn't supposed to watch" but saw anyway because her mom would forget she was in the room.

  • @thornprick2645

    @thornprick2645

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've gotta ask my mom about this, too. I kind of doubt she would have gotten the chance to watch it, though. She grew up with 5 sister and they all shared one TV, which my grandpa I'm sure used the most.

  • @cdd4248

    @cdd4248

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha! I am reading this comment two years later and had to chuckle; because your mom's story is the same as mine!

  • @PaulBrady1
    @PaulBrady13 жыл бұрын

    I remember these gay couple episodes! I was 10 or 11, and it had a huge impact on me! This was a time when we only had 3 or 4 channels, and almost no gay characters on TV. These 2 or 3 episodes helped me realize that I could have what I wanted, and that I didn’t have to feel bad for wanting it! Thank you Matt!!!

  • @daddyaf945
    @daddyaf9453 жыл бұрын

    I not only remember this show, but I remember Carol Burnett doing a funny impression of Mary Hartman on her variety show.

  • @grumpyotter

    @grumpyotter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh you reminded me! I had to go look it up! Oh lordy--Jim Nabors is on it. ROFL kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmmHraWBgr2qn9Y.html

  • @jspaingreene6350

    @jspaingreene6350

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man....I remember that Carol Burnett episode!!! LoL

  • @sheilaholmes8455

    @sheilaholmes8455

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Carol was fabulous!!!

  • @SWLinPHX

    @SWLinPHX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes that’s the first thing I thought of. The Carol Burnett spoof. She did a great job of actress Louise Lasser’s monotone whining and moaning.

  • @SilenceCosignsIt

    @SilenceCosignsIt

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and All That Glitters

  • @dreadfulspiller8766
    @dreadfulspiller87663 жыл бұрын

    My mom wouldn't let us watch any of his shows because he was a "anti-american communist" as my mom put it but I did see them in syndication in the 80s.

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha I don't think your mom was ENTIRELY wrong

  • @losttribe3001

    @losttribe3001

    3 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of how my dad wouldn’t let us watch the Simpsons because Barbara Bush hated it. 🤣🤣

  • @stephaniemedina1848

    @stephaniemedina1848

    3 жыл бұрын

    And hence we have children raised by ......like my mom🌷🐥🐱

  • @injunsun

    @injunsun

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume My comment keeps being deleted, so here it is again: OMFG, Matt. I'm so... I'm 52. My parents wouldn't watch this show. My dad used to do the limp wristed, lispy gesture when he wanted to say some man was a "f***y." He called Dave Kopay, "that f*g football player," when I asked who he was. I have lived with undetectable HIV for half my life. People still assume I caught it by being a "promiscuous f*g." Younger people have no idea what we lived through. You've got me crying in my kitchen. Thank you. THANK YOU. I can go to bed now, at 10 AM, a little less depressed, a little more glad my suicide didn't take. I marched. I drug a years worth of HIV meds behind me, with a sign saying, "AIDS ISN'T OVER." My life has been a horror show nobody would believe. You are a gift to me. Believe it. Now, I need to go hold my current husband. As a widower, I was twice blessed with love. My life is still s**t. But at least I have love, and you.

  • @thewkovacs316

    @thewkovacs316

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume norman lear was a capitalist who used sitcoms for social commentary

  • @-mic.moon-
    @-mic.moon-3 жыл бұрын

    the "just talking to the camera in my very welcoming light" feels nice, love seeing you like that

  • @michaellasfetto5810

    @michaellasfetto5810

    3 жыл бұрын

    agreed!

  • @lisaspikes4291
    @lisaspikes42913 жыл бұрын

    People my age (57) remember this show. It made quite a splash back then.

  • @cdd4248

    @cdd4248

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! We do!

  • @someguy2135
    @someguy21353 жыл бұрын

    I was hooked on "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" when it first aired. It was like "The Daily Show's" "Moment of Zen" for the entire series. Fun fact. Martin Mull had a spin off show called "Fernwood Tonight" which was a satire of a talk show. It co-starred Fred Willard.

  • @abushenob

    @abushenob

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fernwood Tonight was awesome. It had really well-known guests - Charlton Heston, Rita Moreno - and some of the dopiest guests - a mother who went on weekends with other parents to discuss the beauties of parenting while they locked their kids in the car for the weekend. Baby Irene - an obnoxious imitator of Shirley Temple. Truly funny.

  • @parlance1
    @parlance13 жыл бұрын

    I loved this show as a kid. My mom wouldn't let me watch, but I was smart enough to argue about bedtime until the show was over. so my memory of it is half watching / half arguing.

  • @stevenjwiles

    @stevenjwiles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here, but it was Soap.

  • @codexohm
    @codexohm3 жыл бұрын

    Oh I used to have Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman on DVD purely because of the "waxy yellow buildup" episode alone!

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been going around the house murmuring "waxy yellow buildup, waxy yellow buildup" for a week

  • @codexohm

    @codexohm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume This video made me rebuy the complete series on dvd. So thank you for your service.

  • @johndean4727

    @johndean4727

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume how did you find those Mary Hartman clips i have looked and looked.(not counting the dvd). you are terrific i want to watch them so bad.

  • @Geckokidthepaladin
    @Geckokidthepaladin3 жыл бұрын

    The problem with marrying a horse is that they could never say Yay to your proposal.

  • @sarahcb3142

    @sarahcb3142

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only neigh (sorry I'll see myself out)

  • @Richie8a8y

    @Richie8a8y

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m dead!😂 Thanks for the laugh. ♥️👏👏

  • @NexusDarkworld338

    @NexusDarkworld338

    3 жыл бұрын

    He also wanted to marry a male horse and they were concerned the horse would 'break' him.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NexusDarkworld338 Yes! Tell THAT to Mr. Hands & Strut the stallion!

  • @abushenob
    @abushenob3 жыл бұрын

    I LOVED "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman". My recollection was that it was billed as a soap opera parody. It had a feel of improvisation. When the lead actress Louise Lasser (who was Woody Allen's wife) had a public mental breakdown IRL, refusing to leave a toy store when it was closing, the show wrote it into the script a few nights later and Louise did a fictionalized version of Mary Hartman having the same breakdown. I will forever remember Mary Kay Place as Loretta, the country singer who gigged at the local bowling alley, whose trip to Nashville to seek greater fame was derailed by crashing into a station wagon full of nuns. Mary Hartman was an exaggerated version of the put-upon housewife. She once got stuck under the sink in pursuit of "yellow waxy build-up", a phrase put into wide use at the time by the commercials for a floor cleaner. She had a ridiculous hairdo - two thick braids that somehow seemed to overwhelm her appearance. Her husband consistently engaged in affairs with other women which he successfully convinced Mary were her fault or that she was imagining things. I am amazed that I do not recall the Howard and Ed story line. But everything was so wacky in that world that this would have been just one more outrageous thing. Shows that came on after the 11 p.m. news got away with a lot more than those in prime time (e. g. Saturday Night Live).

  • @falcon664

    @falcon664

    3 жыл бұрын

    Remember on "All in the Family" Archie was told, "In a court of Law, you can't beat a station wagon filled with Nuns".

  • @abushenob

    @abushenob

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@falcon664 I do not remember that; one might think that there were a lot of nuns gathering in station wagons at the time. But can just hear Archie saying that- it is so exactly something he would say.

  • @agatha3453

    @agatha3453

    2 жыл бұрын

    And coming out from under the kitchen sink wood doors...lol!...

  • @abushenob

    @abushenob

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@agatha3453 Wasn't she trying to clean up "Yellow waxy build-up" on that episode?

  • @agatha3453

    @agatha3453

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@abushenob yr better than me in remembering that...lol...but I can always look that up in KZread ....I was about 12 and wouldn't get that thanks! Ahhh the 70s....

  • @ToruKun1
    @ToruKun13 жыл бұрын

    "The Baxters was half-sitcom and then the second half of the episode, the studio audience would just talk about their feelings about what they just saw" I can't believe Norman Lear invented the "Talking Dead" reaction show format.

  • @deformemvita
    @deformemvita3 жыл бұрын

    I think your editing studio setting is far more relaxed and personable than Culture Cruise... but please don't stop Culture Cruise. I love it SO much.

  • @SRHtheHedgehog

    @SRHtheHedgehog

    3 жыл бұрын

    I second this. I really like this format but I also love culture cruise.

  • @misterartist1603

    @misterartist1603

    2 жыл бұрын

    He did. Also IS THE PFP BUBS???

  • @geoffr111
    @geoffr1113 жыл бұрын

    There’s a DVD set of the whole Mary Hartman series put out by Shout Factory. My mother got it for me last Christmas, randomly. Thumbs up on the new format!

  • @ratronaut
    @ratronaut3 жыл бұрын

    God I must be old. I watched its entire run. Fun though.

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's how I feel when people are like "you should check out this obscure vintage show, Queer as Folk"

  • @janetmiller175

    @janetmiller175

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had the same thought. Yes, I remember that show. For many of my friends it was really cool to watch it.

  • @johnanderson8624

    @johnanderson8624

    3 жыл бұрын

    Last night I was telling some friends 'John was precocious as a child stories'. One of them being how when, in 1961, I was at the kitchen table watching ADVENTURES IN PARADISE with my older brother and stepdad, after watching a shirtless Gardner McKay I blurted out, "Someday I wish I could marry that man!". Although I don't recall my stepdad's response. I don't think it he was all that astonished. He seemed much more taken aback the year before when, at 5 yrs old, he asked me while in Nisner's 5 & Dime Store what costume I wanted for Halloween and I told him, "Fairy Princess". (I had recently watched THE WIZARD OF OZ and was captivated by Glinda's mode of transportation). But that's a story for another time.

  • @johnanderson8624

    @johnanderson8624

    3 жыл бұрын

    Here's a link to one of the episodes so you get an better idea of my attractions..... kzread.info/dash/bejne/fol1k8iqXaSxgdY.html

  • @rillaholmes6209

    @rillaholmes6209

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @sarahcb3142
    @sarahcb31423 жыл бұрын

    Matt. A Dr Seuss poem about the change in format. We would watch you in a boat. We would watch you while afloat. We would watch you in that chair. We would watch you anywhere!

  • @DavidODuvall
    @DavidODuvall3 жыл бұрын

    This old man remembers "Mary Hartman, Mary Harman" and that it used to be shown VERY late at night.

  • @ronalddonaghe3674
    @ronalddonaghe36743 жыл бұрын

    During the time when Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman was on, it was so popular among gay men that we had Mary Hartman Mary Hartman parties where we all gathered to watch every new episode.

  • @that.michelle
    @that.michelle3 жыл бұрын

    It was on after the evening news. "Mary Hartman Mary Hartman"

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh that's interesting -- because there was no network, the show jumped around a lot from one station and time slot to another.

  • @that.michelle

    @that.michelle

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume Cleveland, OH. I was too young to watch but I knew if I heard that Mary Hartman Mary Hartman, I better turn the TV off!

  • @augusts1

    @augusts1

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was on very late night in Portland OR after The Tonight Show w/Johnny Carson I recal, when I was a kid.

  • @richardfrank8015

    @richardfrank8015

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume It was on at 11:30 in Detroit. The local news anchors would remind folks to stay tuned for MH MH

  • @cross75man75

    @cross75man75

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was on at 11:30pm in NY, NY.

  • @sarahwood6413
    @sarahwood64133 жыл бұрын

    Loving the new look almost as much as I love getting a new thoughtful, well-researched video so soon after your last one!!

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I couldn't stop thinking about Howard and Ed after the Roseanne video so I wanted to get this one up as fast as I could!

  • @MacAdvisor

    @MacAdvisor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume Darn, I thought you did it for me. Sigh.

  • @debbieomi
    @debbieomi3 жыл бұрын

    I was born in 1964 and raised in very rural northern Michigan. The only reason I ever heard of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman was because my Dad bought a Detroit Free Press every Sunday and the show was often used in the weekly crossword. I had no clue what it was about but got a vague notion it was different and "weird". Good on Norman Lear, an absolute genius! I need to get hold of these episodes and thoroughly educate myself. (Bonus- it appears the set designers were right on trend with what is called mid century modern and I am a huge fan so lots of decor eye candy to drool over!)

  • @pablobratcat
    @pablobratcat3 жыл бұрын

    Call me out of touch, but I miss the sailor outfit..

  • @MacAdvisor

    @MacAdvisor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing like a hot man in uniform, I say.

  • @misch3095
    @misch30953 жыл бұрын

    ANOTHER culture cruise???? thank you matt baume im living

  • @mikeymullins5305
    @mikeymullins53053 жыл бұрын

    the culture cruise set was finally growing on my tho

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    The seagulls were starting to get unruly

  • @emileebaker8520

    @emileebaker8520

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume Just admit that you were tired of wearing the sailor suit, Matt.

  • @injunsun

    @injunsun

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume I just wish KZread wouldn't auto delete my comment. I shared this to FB tho, so phok them.

  • @kategleason6481
    @kategleason64813 жыл бұрын

    I loved this show as a teenager. I think it influenced me more than I knew.

  • @danigolightly799
    @danigolightly7993 жыл бұрын

    This show NEEDS to be put on streaming.

  • @fad23
    @fad233 жыл бұрын

    Wait, there are live action Mary Worth videos? I've just started reading old Mary Worth comic strips. I hear the current run is incredibly addictive.

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Search "live action mary worth" and you will not be disappointed

  • @fad23

    @fad23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MattBaume I've watched one episode, that's all I've found so far, but I'll extend my search.

  • @tracylf5409
    @tracylf54092 жыл бұрын

    Dear Matt, I LOVED MHMH! I felt like I was the ONLY person of my age/time who watched it, let alone remembered it! I'd love if you could find all of the episodes. It had a brilliant cast, too. xx

  • @snailysaurus
    @snailysaurus3 жыл бұрын

    I remember Mary Hartman, but I never got to see it as it aired at 11 00 pm', long after the then called "family hour" on TV

  • @1jotun136
    @1jotun1363 жыл бұрын

    Oh darling, we old queens definitely remember Mary Hartman Mary and.

  • @NotPatReilly
    @NotPatReilly3 жыл бұрын

    I only this show cause of Family Guy when Stewie yells “Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman!”

  • @KrissieFox
    @KrissieFox3 жыл бұрын

    It's terrifying to think that throughout my entire childhood is was actually illegal for me to exist as a human being - and that's just based on how my sexual orientation was perceived, not even getting into gender stuff. I didn't have my first "perceived as gay" relationship until around 2008 or so. Having been born in the 80s, the show was before my time and yet I can still very much appreciate that story. It was nice watching one of your videos again, and I do like the new setup! Those colored lights in the background look nice. I hope you've been doing well!

  • @jamesanthony5874
    @jamesanthony58743 жыл бұрын

    If more episodes like this means more content in general? Then my vote is for more episodes like this. But really, I like the format of the other videos better.

  • @ImmortalChaos
    @ImmortalChaos3 жыл бұрын

    Matt, I watch for your content, The packaging is not as important, its the content. I would watch you on a boat, office, or dungeon, I'm down for whatever you throw my way.

  • @elizabethtrainer9732
    @elizabethtrainer97323 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos and just watched the Bob Newhart video. It's so very sad that so few people know what an incredible legend Bob Newhart is, he's 90 now, but still sharp as a tack.

  • @Geospasmic
    @Geospasmic3 жыл бұрын

    I never heard about this show, I'm glad you're talking a little more about it after the mention in the last episode.

  • @yukiko347
    @yukiko3473 жыл бұрын

    This is equally as enjoyable. I love feeling informed and the set up feels comfy

  • @txa1265
    @txa12652 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate you doing these videos and providing your perspective. Born in the mid-60s I grew up with many of these shows (Mary Hartman was shown in the Boston area, but IIRC it was 'outside of prime time' so I was seldom up that late), and honestly just remember enjoying the characters without thinking about representation and rights. Had some gay friends in high school who had to deal with quite a bit - much more than my son and his fiancé who have a better world but still very challenging.

  • @nuimaleko7
    @nuimaleko73 жыл бұрын

    It came on late, so I did not get to catch it often, but yes, i watched it through my early twenties. I remember the running gags about Mary being very concerned about the yellow waxy build up on her kitchen floors and how good Mary Kay Place was and that I had a crush on Mary's husband.

  • @abushenob

    @abushenob

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too. He was very good-looking.

  • @singe0diabolique
    @singe0diabolique3 жыл бұрын

    Well, NOW I know why my parents wouldn't let me stay up to watch that show!

  • @victorcredenza6932
    @victorcredenza69323 жыл бұрын

    I think a major thing missed here is the main character Mary Hartman her acceptance of the gay couple

  • @glenellbandy2670
    @glenellbandy26703 жыл бұрын

    Long ago Mary Hartman was my favorite show. It was quirky and fun, sometimes even sweet.

  • @ralphrod32
    @ralphrod322 жыл бұрын

    As a nowhere-near-ready-to-come-out gay mid-teen, I remember watching MHMH in my bedroom with the television down low so that no one else in the house could hear. But what everyone did hear was my uncontrollable laughter. It was deadpan wild and hilarious. And yes, the gay characters gave me hope that I could someday emulate them in openness. It took another decade but I'll always remember my unrestrained laughter.

  • @Gerry1of1
    @Gerry1of121 күн бұрын

    I remember 'Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman' and I remember it's spin-off 'Fernwood Tonight', but I don't recall the gay couple at all.

  • @musicpaulweber
    @musicpaulweber2 жыл бұрын

    It is so fascinating watching you dive deep into the shows that I grew up with and seeing so much that, of course, I never saw at the time. I wonder now how some of these shows might have influenced me as a young person.

  • @evandrofisico3094
    @evandrofisico30943 жыл бұрын

    Like the new format, the light looks amazing!

  • @misch3095
    @misch30953 жыл бұрын

    really liking the new set up!! also def wanna check out some of those lesser known shows now

  • @Serai3
    @Serai33 жыл бұрын

    I remember MHMH. Great parody of soap operas. Not surprised they included this storyline. :)

  • @dmolinah
    @dmolinah3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you as usual! I prefer from the other format that you get to listen to fragments of those series. AND that you look so cute in the sailor costume

  • @piercetulley9914
    @piercetulley99143 жыл бұрын

    I loved "Mary Hartman Mary Hartman", always been one of my favourite shows and always happy whenever it's referenced so thank you!

  • @wwbwbgohbc
    @wwbwbgohbc3 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see you tackle lgbtq+ rep in daytime soap operas. I've just found your channel and I'm loving each video I binge.

  • @tantalavita6015
    @tantalavita601528 күн бұрын

    I was still a teenager and was crazy about Mary Hartman,Mary Hartman...so hilarious!

  • @garcvict
    @garcvict3 жыл бұрын

    I love this segment! I felt like you were video calling me and gagging over this information...keep it up, Matt!! :)

  • @rodolfo0rena
    @rodolfo0rena3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this new format! Makes for a nice change of pace!

  • @tomkitchen9457
    @tomkitchen9457 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for mentioning All That Glitters, I loved it.

  • @JeffryScottPerry
    @JeffryScottPerry3 жыл бұрын

    This was a good change. And thanks for sharing the video.

  • @xingcat
    @xingcat3 жыл бұрын

    I'm old enough that Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman was part of the TV landscape when I was growing up. My Mom thought it was too grown up for us kids, but I remember it really well. Did you ever do anything on "Hot L Baltimore"? That also featured a gay couple in the 70s, and a couple of the regular characters were sex workers.

  • @xingcat

    @xingcat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Okay, that teaches me to comment before the video is over!

  • @MattBaume

    @MattBaume

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, I am DESPERATE to find clips of that show!

  • @shannonmccreedy1875
    @shannonmccreedy18753 жыл бұрын

    Just thank you thank you thank you. Important and desperately needed. Also lovely and delightfully enthusiastic presentation.

  • @kobld
    @kobld3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see more people talk about this show, I heard about it from a Norman Lear documentary and it is WILD. Although I'm actually more excited to see someone talk about that Mary Worth video.

  • @generaldiego
    @generaldiego3 жыл бұрын

    I liked the video but the format is nice seeing your mug or that other way. I'm here for the knowledge and insight to things I just didn't know. Great vid man!

  • @OsirisMalkovich
    @OsirisMalkovich3 жыл бұрын

    I just started watching _Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman_ after you brought it up in your last video. So far it is bonkers and I am loving it! The acting and the pacing are so strange. It is just a weird, weird show. Anyone having trouble finding it might want to visit a certain inlet frequented by buccaneers...

  • @CapriUni
    @CapriUni3 жыл бұрын

    I was 12 -13 when "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" aired, and I remember watching it (or watching occasional episodes) on the tabletop TV we had in the kitchen. My memories are vague, but fond.

  • @olinwilliams
    @olinwilliams3 жыл бұрын

    I was addicted to the show. Unfortunately, I began experiencing clinical depression and lost sight that it was comedy. Id love to see the series again

  • @AsainNerdfighter
    @AsainNerdfighter3 жыл бұрын

    i loved this video! this set up just seemed sooo excited compared to the reg culture cruise. i love both, keep doing whatcha doing!

  • @lizisasleep
    @lizisasleep3 жыл бұрын

    What a fun interesting episode to put out on this amazing historic day. 💙

  • @gregcambo
    @gregcambo3 жыл бұрын

    MH2 was a huge cult hit in the late 70s: people would run home from dinner parties to see it. Remember, there were no VCRs or PVRs back then. I became obsessed with the show in 1977 when I was 17. I thought it was hilarious, especially Louise Lasser's incredibly heartfelt, but often outrageously slapstick and improvised comic performance. It aired in Montreal at 1pm. So I had the college librarian use one of the first VTR machines to record it for me and I'd watch it after my classes. I used to record all of Loretta's songs on a reel to reel. Then, mid-season, it was bizarrely switched to 11 at night. You could receive the audio portion of the channel on the radio (I think it was CBC), so, if I was out at a disco, I'd borrow my friend's car keys and listen to it in his car. I missed a lot of episodes, but I now have the full 325 episode box-set; I got it for $95. on eBay. Someone on this thread says you can see it on "a certain inlet frequented by buccaneers..." I remember Ed and Howard when they first appeared, two guy-next-door, passing-for-straight men. I figured they were gay quite quickly, and was amazed that this was on TV. Positive gay role models were just not heard of back then. This show, not just because of the gay couple, was ahead of its time. After Louise Lasser left the show, it continued the following year as a spin-off without her character, Fernwood Forever (this never aired in Montreal). There are no episodes of this available anywhere, yet. Fernwood 2 Night was the other, summer, spin-off, with Martin Mull as host Barth Gimble (the twin brother of Garth Gimble, who was impaled by the aluminum Christmas tree), and Fred Willard as his sidekick Jerry Hubbard. Several people on this thread have been mentioning Jodie, played by Billy Crystal on the sitcom, Soap, which started airing shortly after MH2 began. I remember being very excited to see a gay lead on TV, but a short time into the show, Jodie started becoming involved with and sleeping with several women. I felt the show abandoned gay people and I dropped it like a hot potato. Thanks, Matt, for your coverage of gay characters and shows, and for this opportunity for people to discuss the cult-classic phenom, Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman!

  • @r1verman
    @r1verman2 жыл бұрын

    Okay.....this video just blew my mind. I was born in 1971 and as a youngster watched Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman all the time. I remember I watched it, but don't really remember the specific storylines. I mean this was 40+ years ago. I now wonder how much this show may have influenced me though as a young person. I grew up very conflicted about my sexuality as a teen in the eighties. I had feelings of attraction for the same sex, but knew it was taboo and I could be in life threatening danger if I revealed those truths. It took me years to come to terms that I am attracted to both sexes. I'm now 50, living alone, and have no interest in having any relationships. But I often wonder what my life would have been if I'd been able to understand who I was and be open. Loved this video as I do all of your videos. You always open up an understanding of the world through history and television.

  • @user-oy6hk1gn7l
    @user-oy6hk1gn7l3 жыл бұрын

    It's really like Christmas every time you upload

  • @Desimcd
    @Desimcd3 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This is so refreshing! Please keep making more videos like this 😁

  • @planningwithjohn
    @planningwithjohn3 жыл бұрын

    I love Mary Hartman! I think there’s a waxy buildup? No the bottle says no wax build up. Look you have a wax buildup!

  • @strafrag1
    @strafrag1 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt. Yes, I remember them and watched MH,MH all the time back then. If I recall correctly, in NYC, it was on late night 10/11pm. I would get home from my airline job at JFK and couldn't wait to see it. It was silly at times, but such fun. Cheers! Peter.

  • @jwb52z9
    @jwb52z93 жыл бұрын

    Unless, somehow, I dreamed it, when I was a kid in the 80s, a station where I live aired this show in reruns and I live in Texas of all places.

  • @PacificBlue51
    @PacificBlue513 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. thanks. Like this format a lot.

  • @girl89kn
    @girl89kn3 жыл бұрын

    I only know about the show after seeing it in the DVD section at the library (yes, in 2020 😄). I picked up the Mary Hartman DVD for a closer look because the woman on the cover looked like Carol Burnett and I thought the title, 'Mary Hartman Mary Hartman' was a typo. Haha, well now I may look into this show in the future. Thanks for posting.

  • @darcyadelle
    @darcyadelle3 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you for sharing this. I had NO idea this storyline even existed!

  • @CoCoLaFousFous
    @CoCoLaFousFous3 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic new lighting set up. But I miss the sailor suit and the LAND HO! I suppose I could let it go, but at least bring back the cute glasses. Love the show! 🙌🙌

  • @Chromaticosomaermati
    @Chromaticosomaermati3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, well made.

  • @DavidLGill
    @DavidLGill3 жыл бұрын

    Love the video! Thanks...I'll be on the lookout for episodes of MHMH and more from your channel.

  • @SoundBlackRecordings
    @SoundBlackRecordings3 жыл бұрын

    I like this format Matt!

  • @rcruz4510
    @rcruz45103 жыл бұрын

    Oh God do I remember them! I watched MHMH religiously solely because of those two. I had the biggest crush on Beeson (I was 18 - just starting to understand what it really meant to be gay). I remember the promos for this show: Dodie Goodman would call out "Mary Hartman! Mary Hartman!", and then they'd show a clip of Louise Lasser as Mary and Dodie as her neighbor talking about the latest victims of a serial killer. Dodie read off the list of victims which included people, 7 goats and 2 chickens - and Louise would nervously ponder "What kind of maniac would kill 7 goats and 2 chickens?" Gay topics on TV were starting to show up because it was 7-8 years after Stonewall, and in that intervening time there had been a lot of push to get "gay rights" legislation passed. A lot of cities and states actually passed such legislation - although there was pushback such as in Miami-Dade County FL because of people like Anita Bryant. The strategy back then was to promote the notion that "We're just like you: we want to be able to love who we desire". That was all fine until AIDS hit and completely dominated the media when it came to gay men.

  • @hgoodin1013
    @hgoodin10132 жыл бұрын

    Haha omg I loved this show. I was 13 when it came out and had just gotten a small portable b&w TV in my room. It was more a late night show, I think it was on at 10:30. I would have to turn the volume way down and get way up close because I'd get in trouble if my dad caught me watching it. He took issue with entirety of the show. But it's one I definitely remember and watched when I could sneak it in.

  • @pwillieb
    @pwillieb3 жыл бұрын

    I watched Mary Hartman, "Mary Hartman" when it was on, then watched the reruns that were on around 10:00pm. I still have it on DVD. Loved that show!

  • @juliewedam9826
    @juliewedam98263 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt! Thank you for your videos! I always know I'll learn something from your videos and they will be entertaining. I love whatever format you want to do. You always have great content and there is a sense of listening to a friend. Sending you lots of love Matt from Julie and Stijn :)

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith36993 жыл бұрын

    "The horse wasn't of age..." :D Man, that wall paper in Howard's Mum's room is an amazing interior decoration choice. Thanks for yet another great video.

  • @loscadu
    @loscadu3 жыл бұрын

    That was a long way to go for that Baxter's joke, Matt. I love it.

  • @floopdoop3136
    @floopdoop31363 жыл бұрын

    this was so interesting, thanks Matt!!

  • @eileensickel
    @eileensickel2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this.

  • @billthecat666
    @billthecat6662 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining the concept of this show. I remember the name of this show as a kid bud I didn’t know it was a special format sitcom.

  • @queencockroach
    @queencockroach3 жыл бұрын

    This is so crazy- please make more videos about obscure topics like this!

  • @clogsworth456
    @clogsworth4563 жыл бұрын

    I loved this new setup! I still like culture cruise though! Perhaps this format for shorter videos, and culture cruise for longer episodes? But up to you, it's your channel!

  • @thornprick2645
    @thornprick26453 жыл бұрын

    The Baxters seems like it would be fun to watch. When I was little, I loved The Monkees more than anything. Lots of episode themes do not age well, in retrospect. But something I appreciate more now is watching their random interviews at the end? Like they were experimenting with having candid conversations and the guys would talk about whatever was going on. Like Mickey Dolan talking about a protest he went to in LA, I think. I just think that's such a fun and interesting snapshot into history. Even if it's a pinhole of a lens that you can't use to represent anyone besides those speaking, the candidness(-ish) is really exciting to watch now, I think.

  • @GLAASJEMELC
    @GLAASJEMELC3 жыл бұрын

    I like the new style, just as much as the classic Baume view. Defenitely keep it up if this is less work in post production :) alsways happy to see your videos!

  • @Asmodeai
    @Asmodeai3 жыл бұрын

    Love the new format. Love your channel.

  • @durnsidh6483
    @durnsidh64833 жыл бұрын

    I like this style, I think it works well for less clip heavy topics.

  • @michaelolivero1626
    @michaelolivero16263 жыл бұрын

    First off, I'm totally crushing on you and I love your content. I knew about Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman, but I honestly never watched it. I think it had to do with the time it aired and the fact that I was too young to really appreciate the humor. I'll have to track it down and give it a go. I'd really like to see you do a video on Soap.

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