Turn Any Speaker into AirPlay 2 Speaker (Belkin Soundform Connect)
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Last month, Belkin introduced the Soundform Connect Audio Adapter with AirPlay 2, letting users turn their traditional speakers into AirPlay 2-enabled devices.
We recently had a chance to spend some time with the accessory, so check out our latest video for a look at the setup process, using standalone speakers via AirPlay, and integrating those speakers into a whole-home setup with other AirPlay 2 speakers.
Read more - www.macrumors.com/2021/06/25/...
Belkin Soundform Connect Audio Adapter with AirPlay 2 - belkin.evyy.net/Zdr5Rk
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I really want to get this! The fact that it has optical is amazing for me, since I use a sonos playbar which only has optical audio as its physical connection. I switched from am to spotify just because of spotify connect, and I might switch back to am if I get this device
Surprised there aren’t more devices like this. Great idea, a little expensive so hopefully they will get cheaper and maybe smaller
@JonathanPadillaJW
3 жыл бұрын
The more competition the cheaper they’ll get.
@chumleyk
Жыл бұрын
They don't work well. Audio sync is unusable for video so you cant use it for that and Apple homekit compatibility is 50/50 at best. Probably one of the worst products Belkin has made. Save your money, you have to reset it after every apple homekit or os update and HOPE that Belkin has updated the firmware in good time to follow (your speakers wont work again until they do.)
Finally. I have an iPod Hi-Fi from 2006 that still works. I haven’t used an iPod since iPhone 3. And plugging in my phone was not really enjoyable when I wanted to use phone and listen to music. I use an old phone but have to manually go back to phone for changing music.
This is a great replacement for the old Apple airport, the one with the audio output. I still have an airport but they are getting old and hard to find. Glad Belkin has a solution now.
thank you for making a video about this!
Can I use this while In mirror mode w/ iPhone to HDMI (wired AitPlay) when my Apple Cinema doesn’t have built in speakers but I have gaming set up w/ BT & Analog? Or USB
That’s really cool.. now I can use multiple non-airplay supported speakers at the same time.. 😄
@sedrickbarrows4368
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can do the same thing with a raspberry pie it’s not that hard as simple as drag And drop not as simple as that but way cheaper
@galasitygaming
3 жыл бұрын
@@sedrickbarrows4368 If the Raspberry Pi has Airplay 2 on it, it would be better to use, but the community only knows how to do Airplay 1 on it so far. If they found out how to put Airplay 2 on the Raspberry Pi, then let me know!!
@victoregea5311
3 жыл бұрын
@@sedrickbarrows4368 not airplay 2, just the 1st gen and it's much worse (battery draining on the idevice, dropouts, delay, audio from other apps interfering, multiroom sync with other airplay2 speakers not available....)
Hi, I'm looking to invest in a few of these to go around different speakers in the house. But before I do I have a question ? I currently have a Sonos set up with some with Airplay 2. Currently if i go to the Sonos 5 I airplay from my phone and then go to my Sonos app group the other Sonos products like soundbar , Port & Connect and it will play through all of these at the same time. So my question is if I go to my phone and connect to the play 5 and the soundform audio connector will i still be able to link to my other Sonos speakers as long as the play 5 and the sound form are playing through Airplay 2 at the same time ?
Does this provide audio output through 3.5mm audio jack and optical output simultaneously? I want to connect this 2 amps so
Can this device potentially be used to connect it to tv audio and transfer the audio to the airplay device and transmit it to Sonos speakers
please tell me this will work with an echo studio pair to play dolby atmos music/tv through apple tv...........PLEASE
Question is there a way of using my record player to stream to a HomePod using a device like this?
managed to buy for £20 ($24). Hoping to convert my parent's old Sony CD/ Tape player. I already have the adapter which allow me to use 3.5mm and sounds way better than my Sonos Roam and Bose sounddock due to the size an power of the speakers but using AirPlay will be super convienient.
Thanks for review. Is it working with iOS15 devices?
Can I use it for tv ? I mean I have an Android TV , this device can make my tv airplay capable?
I hope you can rename it so that if you have multiple Soundforms you don't get confused
Does this adapter support Dolby Atmos in Apple Music through the optical audio out?
@modulusshift
3 жыл бұрын
@@noenken shoot I suppose you’re right. 384kbps isn’t much at all for 5.1 channels, 128kbps AAC is barely enough for stereo. I’m gonna end up having to get an Apple TV 4K just to try Apple Music spatial audio on a surround system. That’s frustrating. And I’ve got to set up my HDMI connections in a certain order because I only have ARC on my TV, not eARC.
@s2eves
3 жыл бұрын
@@modulusshift Spatial Audio is just for headphones paired with Apple TV 4K
What are the power requirements on this? I have a pioneer stereo with a USB port. The advantage being that when I turned off the receiver it would shut down the Connect.
@hastingb
Жыл бұрын
To answer my own question, yes it will.
so in this way, could I play sonos speakers and regualar speakers that are hooked up to this device at the same time?
@gbuvb5021
Жыл бұрын
Likely
Can it be used in car audio as wireless carplay ?
Can you change the name of the belkin sound form connect in AirPlay?
You could get the same functionality hooking up an apple airport express and cheaper. I use this currently for my outdoor speakers
@AWriterWandering
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the Airport Express is… and in fact the entire AirPort line.. is officially discontinued.
@notorious1489
3 жыл бұрын
@@AWriterWandering agreed, but as a cheap alternative to the lackluster offering of standalone airplay receivers this is a great alternative and you can find dirt cheap on marketplaces (Under $20)
@ColinHughesUK
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed i use Airport Express and it is a cheaper alternative. Whilst the Airport Express units are discontinued Apple still updates the Airport Express firmware
@augustogalindo8687
3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting one from Ebay, how well does it perform in your experience?
@notorious1489
3 жыл бұрын
@@augustogalindo8687 it works great. Cheap airplay2. And if you need an apple extender it will work as well. But I only use it an AirPlay option.
unfortunately it is limited to 24 bit/48kHz. Can't be used with Apple Music Hi-Res :(
@sasstewart1222
3 жыл бұрын
unfortunately 98.% of the people can't decipher the different between great lossy 320kps and 'hi-res'
does it connect to wifi?
Could have been cool but this thing has been announced and is on the French website for weeks/months and I have never seen it on any website even as a preorder
Anyone try streaming Apple TV to this? is there an audio delay?
I wonder how bad the latency is? I'd like something like that to connect to my keyboard to send the sound to a set of wireless speakers for practicing late at night. But most these devices the latency kills the deal.
@MarshallSmith27
2 жыл бұрын
probably none. why would it be any different than any other airplay enabled device
Thanks for this video. Sorry for my English I am french but I would like to know ok I can listen Deezer Premium Hifi (CD quality) from my iPhone by Airplay to an appli Yamaha ?? Thanks for your answer. Regards from Paris
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Does it support High res music ? and does it work with a car ?
@johnnybravo4012
10 ай бұрын
No and no. This is not CarPlay this is AirPlay
Is it possible to change the name of the device as it shows up in the Airplay 2 menu?
@ChrisBeiting
Жыл бұрын
Yep - Mine is called Vinyl Station, because it's also located where my turntable is.
@benjaminlovelace8141
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisBeiting thanks!
My experience with Chromecast Audio is terrible. Maybe I need to test one of these!
@AlejandroUribe89
2 жыл бұрын
I have both and I can tell you that the Chromecast Audio’s sound is way better. The soundform output volume is super low when compared to the chromecast. You should try turning on the “Full dynamic range” for a better audio on the chromecast.
@gedsonjunior7762
2 жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroUribe89 Thanks for the answer! For me, the major problem is about the usability in general. It's a little bit laggy, sometimes the app loses the connection with Chromecast, etc. I will consider the sound quality, for sure :)
@AlejandroUribe89
2 жыл бұрын
@@gedsonjunior7762 Yeah that true! And You can use AirPlay with more apps, but paying +$95 for something with that output volume doesn’t worth it. Maybe we have to wait a little longer for a software update
So could I connect it to my car also?
@ojtsmith
3 жыл бұрын
+1 - that’s an interesting use case!
@EliFeldman
3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of that but I think you would then need to have a mobile hotspot. Airplay requires a Wifi connection.
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT ON BETA 15 YOU CAN LISTEN TO AUDIO IN SAFARI ON A TAB YOU DONT ACTIVLY HAVE OPEN! NOW YOU CAN PLAY YOUR KZread TUTORIAL IN THE BACKGROUND AS YKUR WORKING THROUGH YOUR WORK OR WHATEVER YOU MAY USE…. I really hope my phone didn’t just glitch if it’s real that’s game changing lowkey
This is such a great needed device... but at $99. I'll wait until they it $40 or below. Currently using chromecast audio which works great at $30.each **BELKIN, take note and lower the price for the masses and you will have a HUGE hit! *** Nice advertising video, thanks!
@Michael-xz1nk
Жыл бұрын
$58.81 on Amazon...just saw it today(save 41%).
I’m still wishing… I’ve been trying for three days. Reset many times. Uninstalled and restarted The home app. I can never get past “the device is not responding” Zero tech support from the company.
A $99 AirPort Express could do this - while also being a WiFi router or signal booster... Why oh why does Belkin have to charge $99 for *JUST* the AirPlay feature? (Before my AP Express died, I used it to send optical audio to my old iPod HiFi. Now I have a "dock connector Bluetooth receiver" on the dock port on top instead.)
@JonathanPadillaJW
3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap. I forgot I can use the APx. I’m gonna try to look for it but not sure if it still works.
@nazarm6215
3 жыл бұрын
Apple takes a 30% cut for the AirPlay label
@AnonymousFreakYT
3 жыл бұрын
@@nazarm6215 I find that extraordinarily hard to believe. LG added AirPlay to my TV after I purchased it. No way they gave Apple $300 to AirPlay enable my TV two years after I bought it. Likewise, Sonos isn’t paying Apple $75 to add AirPlay to one speaker and $1000 to add it to a different one. You might be thinking of the App Store. Hardware certifications like AirPlay generally have a fixed cost - _maybe_ with tiers based on price. But no way it’s 30% at any level.
Seeing as it connects to home kit, dose it need to be connected to Wi-Fi? I wanted to use it in my car
@johnnybravo4012
10 ай бұрын
Airplay connects via Wi-Fi, unlike Bluetooth which connects via Bluetooth. No you can’t use this in your car
Used airplay express is the way to go, simple fact that it has an Ethernet port. WiFi always has issues if u live anywhere near other people. I’m shocked there is truly no other device like airplay express in 2021 for such a simple use case. I don’t love apple, And APE are discontinued, have issues overheating and blowing up, but still better than anything else Ive seen out there.
@mnyheim11
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@JM_Solo
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say thanks for this comment. Found two used for $40 a pop and I’m loving having them in my home. Can use my own speakers - and I have a few sets of those to go around.
@404.forbidden
Жыл бұрын
But your Data still travels over WiFi with AirPlay. Using the Ethernet Port on your Airplay Express only means that the connection between the Airplay Express and your Router is wired. The connection between your Smartphone and your Router is still WiFi. Airplay is no separate frequency or so. It's just Apples protocol to share Data between device over standard Wifi. In fact when using Airplay between two wireless Apple Devices it's even a peer to peer connection and both devices are talking directly over WiFi. If you have for example an Apple TV, it will use this direct Wifi Connection for AirPlay even if you have it plugged in via the Ethernet port. This method is used by apple for many other functions like AirDrop or when setting up a new device etc. The devices don't have to be connected to the internet oder any local network but they are still using WiFi. The great thing about it being only software is that you can add Airplay to many devices like an out-of-the-box raspberry pi for example only by installing a small program. And of course: if theoretically both devices only would use ethernet then you would have a wired "AirPlay" connection but that is not the use case for the Belkin Device and it wouldn't make any sense for most projects of this kind because you then would be much happier with connecting your Source (iPhone, Amp etc.) via cable directly to a proper DAC connected to your Speakers.
@drew6317
Жыл бұрын
2.4 Ghz Wifi got congested fast if you had neighbors because it only had 3 non-overlapping channels. 5Ghz has 24-non-overlapping channels and it's signal doesn't travel through walls as easily as 2.4Ghz so congestion because of multiple people with their Wifi networks is MUCH less of an issue than 10 years ago.
Can it pass through Apple Music Lossless without 44.1kHz resmapling?
@insanitybe
2 жыл бұрын
No
Been doing this with Apple TV’s for 10 years +...
@AnonymousFreakYT
3 жыл бұрын
AirPort Express since the first one in 2004. I used one to send audio over optical to my iPod HiFi.
@lonster3000
2 жыл бұрын
@@AnonymousFreakYT same here. On my other Apple HiFi dock I have a jailbroken iPod touch 3rd gen that functions as a AirPlay receiver.
Why does everything associated with apple involve excessive expense
@AnonymousFreakYT
3 жыл бұрын
Because they can get away with it.
It’s a good idea, but my experience of Belkin products is that they tend to fail due to poor build quality.
ugreen has a airplay 2 device similiar to this, but half price.
@Jackruby22
Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link? I’m having trouble finding it, only their bluetooth transmitter.
@KC-bi9jw
Жыл бұрын
UGREEN is a cancer to the tech community. Stay away from cheap Shenzhen companies churning out quantity instead of quality.
Shairport Sync + Raspberry Pi
@mobileuser2923
2 жыл бұрын
Will be 44.1 or 48 using Shairport + rPi?
👍
It is not any speaker. It only works directly with active speakers. Passive speakers still need an external amplifier.
@KC-bi9jw
Жыл бұрын
well duhhh
Also you can buy an used Airport Express 2 gen for half price
Clicked this because I assumed they’d be low price… but my second hand AirPort express does all of that and more for a fraction of the cost… I’ll stick with those.
how do you buy one? how do you buy any cool product from belkin? always sold out for 6-9 months smh
Tiny looking device. Isn't it too small for a strong connection to the wifi? After all the airplay streaming is happening through the wifi router
@johnnybravo4012
10 ай бұрын
The airplay is streaming through THIS device hence why you need it for airplay if a device does not already have airplay built into it and hence why it does not allow high quality/lossless audio
Currently $60 on Amazon if anyone is interested.
Get a used airport express. Much cheaper.
Chromecast to rca much cheaper lol
For $99.00 why not just buy an iPod mini
@staceyjohnson650
3 жыл бұрын
Some folks have great speakers that they’d like to take advantage of.
Do not buy it. I have one of these. It takes days to get them work, multiple connection issues, cannot be found in HomeKit etc. there is big in iOS 16 that prevents the connection. the app does not work well either. As soon as the firmware is updated it works ok, but watch only sometimes recognize it as a speaker. I think eve will release a similar product soon.
people who own nice speakers should stay away with this. There are some decent budget DACs with streamer built-in.
@hectorgonz09
3 жыл бұрын
Hardwire everyday, every time
@impendio
3 жыл бұрын
Like which? I’m interested lol.
@allansh828
3 жыл бұрын
@@impendio Naim, Cambridge Audio, Bluesound have a variety of such products.
@AnonymousFreakYT
3 жыл бұрын
The annoying thing is that this isn't for people with nice speakers - but it's so expensive that only people with nice speakers (should) buy it. If it were $25, it'd be great. Instead I'll use a Raspberry Pi running Open AirPlay Reciever.
@Roseirful
3 жыл бұрын
They will never be as small (some are not that large but are Airplay 1 only like Yamaha hear) or big or expensive. I’d rather connect this to my pure dac.
raspberry pi zero w is a cheaper DiY solution
You know this is like £19 now 😂 must suck if you brought this as soon as it came out. When it comes to tech like this if you’re patient it’ll always become cheap. I doubt Apple will make airplay 3 anytime soon so this will last for many years
@johnnybravo4012
10 ай бұрын
Post a link where it’s that cheap
This is probably the worst advert ever.
@impendio
3 жыл бұрын
so true lmao