You could install a microswitch at the throttlebody or below the gas pedal so that the contraption only begins to spin once full throttle is applied. Might hook up an additional fuel pump to the same circuit, that squirts some more gasoline into the intake at the same moment.

@francoisfigeac4942

2 жыл бұрын

Was thinking the same or try different size pulleys to make more rpms at the turbo

@livinonlimiter

2 жыл бұрын

Why does all of this remind me of nitrous lol

@francoisfigeac4942

2 жыл бұрын

lol right but ware is the fun in that. I have a peddle car in my head after they made one. I want to make one just to take my kids to school. Now I'm thinking I could use a starter to help go over bumps or for reverse.

@Zantrop64

2 жыл бұрын

with a potentiometer, they could even tune the boost map very precisely

@Athiril

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually curious about this kind of thing at lower rpm on cruise control on a highway, seeing if it reduces pumping losses more than the energy it consumes

Man. I can't get enough about this channel. Every time I open the channel, there is an amazing video. Keep up the amazing work guys! And thanks to BMI for translating too!

@Shelboooooo

2 жыл бұрын

Easily the best automotive channel on KZread. It is all about theory and execution and is amazing. Great for people troubleshooting automotive ideas as well.

@Akshay_Bhavekar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shelboooooo Agree 💯🔥

@A_Maggot

2 жыл бұрын

i like their tinkering, but the voice over just annoys me.

@engenhokas69

2 жыл бұрын

@@A_Maggot at the biguinning yes, but o lowerewd the volume a bit and now i got used to the voice, i identify it to the channel, if it changed it'd be weird ahah

@Shelboooooo

2 жыл бұрын

@@A_Maggot better then no voice over.

Your laughter and the way everyone smiles... is how I can tell how successful your ideas are. I couldn't help but laugh along with you guys. Wish I could drive the car. This was a good one. Thank you.

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

9 ай бұрын

he converted a turbo charger into a super charger🤣🤣🤣

What you actually did was a centrifugal supercharger

@Maxwellthecat1213

13 күн бұрын

My dad's old dump truck has something similar to this

You should use a treadmill motor. They are strong, run on dc power and can run continuously. You will have to use a voltage step up circuit though so that you can power it off of the 12v car power.

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

That would be too complicated and expensive. The obvious solution would be a lawn mower engine to run the blower. Or... use a leaf blower!

@pflaffik

2 жыл бұрын

Need an inverter, and when you’re already on AC motors there are lots of cheap alternatives that still need the expensive inverter.

@STAY-GOLD-VINYL

2 жыл бұрын

@@johncoops6897 really? Lol 😆

@LionWithTheLamb

2 жыл бұрын

@@STAY-GOLD-VINYL I've seen it done on Roadkill with the Leaf Blower Monza. They also have a boost caboose episode.

@simont9984

2 жыл бұрын

@@pflaffik isn't the starter motor he was using DC? The car already has an inverter from AC to DC. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean though about using AC motors?

Bentley Blower comes to mind. Place a switch under the accelerator pedal, when you hit full throttle, the motor starts the turbo. That's how that system worked in the UK, back in 1922.

@MiG21aholic

2 жыл бұрын

The Bentleys had the blower running full time. Mercedes engaged it at full throttle only

@mbobelakjr

2 жыл бұрын

Hi

@MV60

2 жыл бұрын

Toyota had a clutched supercharger in 1985 that used a pedal switch to engage it too.

@ukuleletyke

Жыл бұрын

And the Bentleys had superchargers, rather than turbos. Direct permanent drive from the end of the crankshaft.

@tehgerbil

Жыл бұрын

@@MiG21aholic awesome username, and giving the facts.

This guy is one of the best mechanics ive ever seen. My father can do this kind of stuff. I have 50% of his genetics. But... Thats not enough to know 50% of what he knows. Its crazy. Wish I could travel and learn from this guy.

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

let's make an electric turbocharger for our car I love it🤣

@icyclaw13

8 ай бұрын

You really think thats his ideas? Hes only doing what people ask todo. He got bunch of mechanics that they do all the work for him. If people ask and there is vision of money, they will do it.

@SilvaDreams

3 ай бұрын

​@@raven4k998They are making electric turbos now days.

I made a switched (on/off) supercharger from a Toyota previa, and I found that using the bypass valve was really helpful when driving off-boost. I programmed all of this using an arduino and a stepper motor controller. I'm very willing to share with you.

@kd7cwg

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking you could use the input from the throttle position sensor, along with calculated load value to control how much boost is needed at a specific load/rpm.

@JoniK1

2 жыл бұрын

I have mad max style switch in my supercharged punto 😃

@Alexander-ol6jh

4 ай бұрын

how have you built the supercharger ?

You should use another smaller internal combustion engine to power the turbine. Like from chainsaw or something like that...

@Mastermindyoung14

2 жыл бұрын

You've invented the leaf blower

@jokeletsplay

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mastermindyoung14have them use a leafblower as a turbo...

@rupe53

2 жыл бұрын

@@jokeletsplay ... I believe Mythbusters already did that.

@Mk3Salty

2 жыл бұрын

@@rupe53 itsjustasix did that on a tacoma too

@Setsuna_Kyoura

2 жыл бұрын

@@jokeletsplay Roadkill did it too and it definitely works.

please make a 0-60 mph test with and without the turbo this is just so cool hahaha

@Sekir80

2 жыл бұрын

60 mph in a Lada? Aren't you a bit too optimistic? :D

@brunoseabra8089

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 hahaha good one

@MyKonaRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 They said in the video they hit 92km/h in second. 62mp/h is 100km/h. Dont see why you think its not possible.

@Sekir80

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyKonaRC It's possible of course. If you have some patience. Maybe you don't get my attempt of humor. ;)

@MegaSockenschuss

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sekir80 These poor Ladas getting enough torture on this channel, there's really no need to make fun of them too. ^^

Great video again. For a better motor alternative you should try a brushless inrunner motor and ESC from a scooter. They can sustain more power and RPM than the old shunt wound starter motor (2kW+), and as long as you supply power, the motor will run. Being 0-5V control you can easily modulate the boost, even make a simple feedback circuit to regulate the boost value with a pressure sensor, that way it will work like an electronic waste gate with perfect efficiency, and you could slave it to the accelerator pedal... it would make a great ride, you may want to go 24, 36 or 48V to get maximum advantage. Cheers.

@sirishwark

2 жыл бұрын

Can you please draw a diagram with the components you mentioned?

@timothybayliss6680

7 ай бұрын

They might sustain more continuous current but the intermittent current wont be all that different. Starters routinely pull more than 100a for something like a Lada in summer and probably close to 200a in winter. If you fed this starter 24v it would quadruple the output.

Very subtle, but I hear you loud and clear garage 54, keep doing what you do and keep tipping your cap, winking your eye, or even showing your hand. I stand with you.

13:30 "we could have used a regular supercharger" Well, anyone can do that. 😂

You are definitely top tier professionals.

@joshuagibson2520

2 жыл бұрын

Uuuuh no. That being said, I still enjoy their videos.

@schumannresonanceswithverte

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, you guys are the most awesome in what you do. Professionals get paid, that's the only problem.

@jessewildman1292

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuagibson2520 Woooooooshhhhhh

@jacobalstott93

2 жыл бұрын

They're professional jimmy riggers but they do it well

@whollymindless

2 жыл бұрын

Just not, probably, racers.

I really enjoy your channel, sirs!!! You seem to have a lot of fun doing these projects and it shows. I hope you folks stay well -- and warm -- up there!! Whoever does your translation is so meticulous and detailed. Thanks very much!

This is an ideal setup to use an alternator as a three phase motor with the associated variable power unit to feed it. This way, the variation of speed of the turbo (by varying the motor) can be varied by different means (accelerator position, vacuum, crank speed, or other ways or even a combination of ways).

@bo-dine7971

Жыл бұрын

The reason they used a start motor is that they knew those things are VERY powerful, hence the amazing result. However they obviously pull massive current & will drain the battery quick, there is also a bigger issue which is that starter motors are designed to operate for short amount of time so they have 0 provisions for cooling & even if you drive them at reduced power they overheat REAL quick, that's why he was really hesistant to use it outside of these very short bursts. But, for this kind of inneficient setup where you want good power especially for a bit of a joke project they are awesome! It's actually quite genius because it's the most SIMPLE yet powerful bolt-on for when you just want your car to accelerate real quick or something like that.

you have to add a big butterfly checkvalve or something. So the air doesnt has to be drawn through the turbo if it isnt on.

@osbberjen

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, the power gain is purely because its a less destriction when its on. doubt is more power than without

@Mastermindyoung14

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that turbo is a restriction at that power level.

@osbberjen

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mastermindyoung14 not spinning it surely is. You ever seen a turbine wheel? Its a big restriction.

@Mastermindyoung14

2 жыл бұрын

@@osbberjen not at that power level. Nope

@osbberjen

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mastermindyoung14 for sure.

I would suggest you using a brushless DC motor not a starter motor on alternator that way you can have the very high RPMs

@minkusmaz

2 жыл бұрын

Why not just put that motor in the drive train or the serpentine belt?

@BruceCarbonLakeriver

2 жыл бұрын

@@minkusmaz I had the same thought I think it is called turbo compressor.

@Rudy97

2 жыл бұрын

nonononononono, turob needs 100k+ rpm. Motors don't like to spin that fast and gears add power loss and wear out rly fast. Skip the turbo and get a blower if it needs to be electric.

@minkusmaz

2 жыл бұрын

@@BruceCarbonLakeriver Electric motor inline makes it a parallel hybrid ✌️✌️ Compressor is if the motor influences the air intake. There are electric super and turbochargers already

@geirkleven3936

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rudy97 or a bigger turbo, ex Hx60 or hx80

It's so interesting to see what you rig up here. Electric controlled bolt on (well more or less haha) turbo, that does work like it should. Very cool engineering going on.

@nikog7133

2 жыл бұрын

There are companies that areaking electric turbo chargers. Not with starter motors of course.

@bo-dine7971

Жыл бұрын

​@@nikog7133 This one is actually really powerful, but the reason is that is sucks massive current from the battery, due to the power & the fast overheating this thing can only engage for short amount of time but still it's a cool toy & good for quarter mile.

Use a potentiometer for the signal wires and attach it to the throttle and use a speed controller on the motor and you can set the build up of boost so it increases along with the injectors. I think that’d smooth out the acceleration and you decide how many revs the motor stops at (limit)

9:50 the look when they both don't have their license is priceless

@mediocreman2

2 жыл бұрын

The first guy said he'll pretend he doesn't have it. Probably because he was intimidated by the idea of driving the car.

You could add a switch on the accelerator and a relay so that when you floor it the turbo kicks in automatically. I love your website.

@tommynobaka

2 жыл бұрын

This would be worth the extra effort. I'm curious to see how this goes if they take it further. Genius engineering really because it's low high tech which make it hilarious

I had a smile on my face the whole drive! You guys are awesome!!

I get a kick out of watching your videos. The different things you do to cars. The tests. The different ideas you have. Excellent. All of it is really good. Keep the videos coming.

"I'm just gonna pretend i don't have a license'' ''Me neither''-*says while driving the car on a public road* XD XD

@GhostOfDamned

2 жыл бұрын

Typical day in Russia

@pflaffik

2 жыл бұрын

You no longer need to bring a physical license in all countries, they will verify the license digitally with a QR code from your cellphone.

@MrTruckerf

2 жыл бұрын

You need a license in Russia?

@tankbg1311

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrTruckerf yes,in most countries if not all you need a license to drive

I absolutely love this type of engineering

@carsandstuff365

2 жыл бұрын

Bodge it style of engineering .. measure by eye .. tack it and your done

@MotherAlgorithm

2 жыл бұрын

@@carsandstuff365 the mig welded crankshaft was superb. I just love the style of work that doesn't need CAD programs and specific car brain software's. Fun, practical analogue engineering, getting things done and keeping things working.

His face when all 1psi boost kicks in is priceless.

Anytime i hear anyone say top tier professionals, Garage54 and all of the most kick ass merch on the globe is the first thing i think of for sure.

switch the starter motor for a chain saw motor with a centripetal clutch, that would make it scary fast

@johncoops6897

2 жыл бұрын

Use a leaf blower!

@redlight3932

2 жыл бұрын

A motor for your motor sounds good

@MrTruckerf

2 жыл бұрын

Would blow the car engine...and not in a good way.

@jvinsnes

2 жыл бұрын

with chainsaw engines only pumping 2hp, you wont even get 2hp extra out of your car engine. Anything above 2hp would be physically impossible

Excellent experiment. The alternator will put more load on the engine unless you use a separate battery. Only then it will be completely separate from the engine. Keep up the excellent vids. Big respect from me here in the UK 🇬🇧

@Marc83Aus

2 жыл бұрын

essentially this a hybrid. the altenator will be drawing a small amount of power more longer to regenerate the battery but when needed the starter will be taking that power back more strongly.

@peterparker-fg5kr

2 жыл бұрын

the electric motor is not necessary, that assemby should be connected mecanically to the cranckshaft and is called a supercharger.

@Max_Chooch

Жыл бұрын

@@peterparker-fg5kr and that would defeat the purpose of their goal here, which was a standalone apparatus that doesn't directly sap power from that weak ass engine to do its job. MarcAFK is right.

Go brushless , high rpm makes easier to marry to the turbo . Attach two throttles together at the throttle linkage , you can also separate wether you want boost early or later in rpm by how you join them . Usually a powered charger is ran boosting motors from low rpm , turbo chargers for use in motors at high rpm . Be cool to see it boosting the pipes to oblivion and if you add a little ethanol injector to give it more bang . More air needs more fuel , bigger bang ha ha ha it’ll either work or lift the head without undoing it 😁

That was pretty cool! I am sure it can be improved a lot. Great to see that it worked.

Try using something like a potentiometer and install it on the gas pedal so you dont have to press a button

@SkyNines

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this

I did the same thing on a Mercedes 240-d and made it spin the tires.My contraption was much smaller as I rigged it to work with the electronic transmission solenoid kick down switch on the accelerator peddle.

@exploranator

2 жыл бұрын

And what's beautiful is that it can be mounted ANYWHERE.

@treeguyable

2 жыл бұрын

I was a Mercedes tech, back in the 80s, at a dealer. Loved the old 240 Ds' , reliable as hell, but slow.Glad someone had the moxy, to try and turbo charge one.

That was great! Definitely have the system moved to the side and lowered so the hood can go one and hide the system on the next build-up!

You guys always come up with some wacky ideas on this channel! Some are practical, some are down right out there.

This is gonna be a good one! Thanks Vlad!

11:27. I believe the way you have the blower set up it's building pressure inside the intake enough at high res to open a valve slightly when it's not supposed to be open. That was probably gas and exhaust mixing and exploding in the exhaust pipe manifold and then exiting out the back

@ruikazane5123

2 жыл бұрын

Misfiring and detonation at high RPM. Common for boosted or supercharged motors. Needs tighter spark plug gap or more powerful ignition and more timing

@dominicthomas4111

2 жыл бұрын

Aka a deadly backfire

@frazzledude

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruikazane5123 This is a stock engine, so the misfiring and detonation could also be due to valve float.

@Kj16V

2 жыл бұрын

Nah that turbo won't be building even close to enough pressure to do that. I'd be surprised if it made much than 1psi. More likely to be unburned fuel built up when it hit the rev limiter.

@charliebrown238

2 жыл бұрын

The valve spring is probably around 60lb seat pressure .... there aint no way in hell this thing is opening the intake valve from intake pressure lol

Absolutely love this,another awesome build! I wonder if it would be possible to put a planetary set in the tensioning pulley and maybe use a more constant drive motor,something designed run longer with less heat being generated.. like a bus electric fan motor or something 😂,also maybe a full throttle switch and arming switch?? Keep up the kick ass builds guys! 👌🏾👍🏾

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

what was that turbo boost?🤣🤣🤣

No doubt in my mind that electric turbos will soon be a great option. With advanced Brushless motors and lipo batts it is totally possible to get the super high RPMs required for a turbo to be effective. The trick will be when someone puts together an electronics package that overcomes the issues of properly delivering the electric power and controlling boost.

@modelnutty6503

2 жыл бұрын

yup, and maybe 1-2 "external" fuel injectors so it doesn't run too lean.

@aeroflopper

2 жыл бұрын

my audi s4 had a small electric turbo, they already using them

@twoeightythreez

2 жыл бұрын

They will be great for helping to spool bigger turbos

@ProlificInvention

2 жыл бұрын

All great points, excellent comment. Allow me to add to the conversation: Alternators generally max out at 100-200 watts output, this would be drawing off the cars battery primarily for the required current- For example: Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp (©250 watts), a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp (©750-1250 watts), and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp (©3750-5250 watts). A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to. Basically you need a 20hp or above electric motor, controller, capable batteries, and gearing to achieve 30,000+ rpm to match the boost provided by a stock turbocharger on a 4 cylinder, which is quite cost prohibitive.

@teardowndan5364

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProlificInvention Typical car alternators are 80-150A, not watts. The cabin blower alone can be 300+W, battery charging can draw another 300-400W (highest battery charging current I have seen on my car is 35A@14.5V, which is 507W for about a minute after winter cold-start), all of the required running lights on older cars with incandescent bulbs is another 100+W, the fuel and ignition system including sensors and computers is another 100+W, then you have all of the other non-essential accessories. Excluding battery charging which is only a temporary load after startup, that is 500+W required for baseline operation, basic comfort and regulatory compliance.

Back in the 1960s some of the cars that were running at Indianapolis ran electric fan blowers

@FunBitesTV

2 жыл бұрын

Got any more info ? Thanks

"It´s an easy one. Everything you need is a lathe and someone who can operate it." -> If you have that, you can practically build a whole engine 😀

@osbberjen

2 жыл бұрын

no, you cant make a engine block etc on a lathe

@johnkimble8506

2 жыл бұрын

@@osbberjen I built 3 and a table so ...

@osbberjen

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnkimble8506 3 what?

Nice project. Assume that the turbo daws through the carb. Now add dual carbs. Then make ne more speed up on the drive. Say2 to one just like you have. Add to existing drive. Also migh have to add second stater motor with more over rive ratio. You are one of the first to really do this with powe gain.

This is awesome! You guys need to do more experiments with turbos!!

Fantastic. So much fun and simple. The impeller's shaft won't last long with those sudden stops.

@homer5103

2 жыл бұрын

Not even remotely true

@exploranator

2 жыл бұрын

But it isn't stopping. It is just not being powered. It has massive mechanical advantage on the starter via the ratios and the actual masses of the pulleys. It's not slamming to a stop each time he turns off the starter motor.

A starter motor is made run for small time ... It's very strong ,your almost at power that an electric turbo needs ,by modifying the starter motor it will last longer And not get hot but you need to put 2 bearings one small fan on the shaft and 2 new motor ends ...not too hard I ones made an electric bike like this 😁

@iamtheoffenderofall

2 жыл бұрын

Electric wheelchairs use starter motors all the time. Long runs for some

The welder in the shopping trolley, priceless. Liking the vid just for this amongst everything else.

Well, a turbocharger should have lubrication with oil, so that would be a nice addition. If it needs to be a separate system (from the engine itself) then add an oil reservior, and pump for it. You can tune the spin rate of the turbo, based on the revs. I'm not sure about the way the revs are shown on the dash in the old Ladas, but as soon as you have any reading, you can convert that interval and map to a controller that controls the spin of the turbocharger. Just quick tips :) Contact me if any help needed with the electronic part of the stuff! Tho' I'm sure you can figure it out! :D

I am SO impressed at the level of your team. Some of the best fabricators I've ever seen. Especially considering the limitations of your equipment. Very talented guys.

I feel you're getting good results because when it isn't turned on, it's massively restricting airflow and hurting 'stock' performance.. a regular turbo will spin slowly at idle, this being connected to a pulley doesn't turn at all. I'd love to see a boost gauge to see what kind of boost is being generated.

@peterwhittle522

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they know how a stock lada drives from the back of their hand

@petelattimer6808

2 жыл бұрын

hurting stock performance? on a LADA????? good luck with that! i drove a few in the UK when they weere sold here and gutless was probably the nicest way to describe the performance.

Of course it works, why not?. I love making workable things out of scrap junk. Done planes, motorcycles, cars... I reckon you have the same tendency to re-use junk , preferably in unexpected ways. But I do it mostly to use it, you do it for the hell of it. KUDOS !!!

Seems to spool decent from 4:45. Posted at tjis point. I say same setup. Convert altinator to brushless then use a speed controller to power alt. to spool even faster depending on voltage supplied to com. I love this channel!

I would love to see what difference it makes. If there is no easy access to dyno, they could do drag pulls and see the time difference.

Garage54 invented an electricity powered engine compressor.

@user-vc8lu9eb1l

2 жыл бұрын

Yes,so?

I know there's a few electric Superchargers that are sold. One's named "TorqueAmp" they use a lot more voltage (48V) and they use a drill motor or some type of high power electric brush less motor to drive it. They usually make around 5 to 8 Lbs of boost. Maybe some of those types of ideas might work here? Hard to say but this is a fun one that's for sure! LOL.

Bonjour, C'est chouette d'avoir des résultats agréables ! 👍 Ça montre que le calcul de la démultiplication entre le démarreur et la turbine sont bons. Le principal intérêt de ce montage par rapport au turbo conventionnel réside dans le fait de pouvoir le commander quand on veut. L'inconvénient est que le démarreur demande beaucoup d'énergie électrique que l'on devra fournir à la batterie par le biais de l'alternateur qui lui sera demandeur d'énergie sur la courroie, alors que le turbo classique récupère principalement une énergie perdue à l'échappement sans vraiment freiner les gaz, lesquels se retrouvent encore plus puissants lorsque le turbo pousse. Ensuite, le démarreur n'est pas conçu pour tourner longtemps et son rendement n'est probablement pas optimum, puis il aurait besoin d'être refroidi. Super expérience encore un coup, continuez je continue à regarder 😆👍bravo ! Belphégor,😉

You need an extra fuel injector that sprays in extra fuel when you push the "power" button

@thebaddestogre-3698

2 жыл бұрын

A squeeze bottle of fuel taped to the steering wheel with a long hose going into the intake.🤣

@laszloszell8753

2 жыл бұрын

lada dont have injectors lol

@bsadewitz

Жыл бұрын

@@laszloszell8753 😂

11:30 was an LSPI event. Avoid them and add a dump valve or you will blow up the engine

You need to verify times and mph on a 1/4 mile track. With and without the system functioning. also suggest a blow off valve along intake with an oil line to the turbo so bearings dont freeze. Dont think you need a waste gate because your not running any exhaust. May also need bigger injectors with a calibrated mass air for fuel so you dont run lean and detonate if really are pushing cfm. Lower compression needed for pistons if pushing serious cfm and may also want to run atleast premium gas for it so less contaminates cause detonation.

MAYBE YOU CAN INSTALL A "PEDAL SWITCH", SO IT CAN COME ON AT "W.O.T. AND IT CAN ALSO "SPOOL DOWN" WHEN SHIFTING AFTER LETTING OF THE THROTTLE, OR, YOU CAN POWER SHIFT IT. 💪💪😎😎

next time install a NOS 🙏

Probably need to inject extra fuel when activated.

@fuzzwack1

2 жыл бұрын

Or nitro!

@mihailpetrovici5044

2 жыл бұрын

is that lada carb or fuel injected?

You said that Lada could beat a 3 liter Camry when a gr Camry is capable of 400 plus horsepower with tuning... I respect your boldness

My friend, some older lawn tractors used a Delco Remy starter/generator.....bearings at both ends.....handy for projects like this

In theory, you could cover the outside in heatsinks to help get rid of some of the heat, but I can't imagine it would do enough for stuff that's deeper in the starter. Also, I loved the video and now I want to see more tests with this setup (or similar). I was not expecting these results

notification squad, Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥

@sonofkami

2 жыл бұрын

You too bro

@Aleks_Mechanics

2 жыл бұрын

@@sonofkami Thank you so much!😎👍🏻

You guys are awesome, I love the "alternative" (unusual, but ingeniously engineered) content.

I gotta say the mechanics are very smart shout out to them for sure

Well, I know what MY next upgrade is going to be. No exhaust modification necessary!

I think using a 3 hp muti-speed wood router powered by a inverter would work much better then a starter motor.

@ProlificInvention

2 жыл бұрын

Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp, a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp, and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp. A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to.

I've been a sub for something like a decade or close to it. I've never disliked a video. Thinking about it I've never disliked any of their crazy brilliant ideas. Before being forced to move to San Francisco and not having either a vehicle or a garage. I was always working on these types of projects/experiments/inventions. This was me and the groups Monster Garage. Good times

I'm thinking that uncontrolled bang & smoke at the tail pipe was the turbo charger blowing out the next cylinder air/fuel charge & it went bang in the wrong place! funy stuff keep up the fun .

Make a cooling system for the starter motor by splicing off of the radiator

The whole reason I suggested a brushless motor was so that you could run the turbine fan flat out because a starter motor the brushes can't handle that much RPMs and there's fist-sized brushless motors that turn over 60,000 RPMs

@genehunsinger3981

2 жыл бұрын

sounds reasonable to me.More reliable also.

@arva1kes

2 жыл бұрын

starter will not run 60000 anyways. most of these smaller turbos run 30-40k.They have two multiplying pulley sets so starter actually runs around 10-15x slower than turbo.

@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499

2 жыл бұрын

That's why they're using pulleys. Now you know any BLDS with more than 1,5kw as a starter have?

@arva1kes

2 жыл бұрын

@@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 you can't say "thats why" if i just said thats why :D joseph said that burshless wont run 60k , but smaller boost turbos event don't run 60k and they are using multiplication so it's not needed for brushless to run 60k. that was my point. I understand very well that they have low speed, high torque motor hence pulley system.

@arva1kes

Жыл бұрын

@@emanuelgoncalvessantos4499 yes 3kw+ . kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWV1zNywlqy_l8Y.html

First, I would find an electric motor for a washing machine or refrigerator, or, if you can, find a motor for an electric leaf blower or lawn mower. After this, what I would do to tweak the system is actually have a rheostat or potentiometer mounted to the throttle body, which could then control the power going to the motor for the induction system. By mounting the potentiometer or rheostat on the butterfly valve axle, like a Throttle Position Sensor, you would then have some control over how much boost you're getting from your forced induction. Also, by tuning it to the throttle body, you make the induction linear, which means you then have an electric supercharger, and not a turbocharger. The other thing you'll have to tune is the boost pressure, because if you have too much pressure, you could blow manifolds or even gaskets apart through pneumatic pressures.

Start motor not designed for continuous use. It has neither external cooling fins nor interior cooling because it is sealed. Also, you need a wastegate and boost pressure guage. This is your best video.

I'd like to see a supercharger turned by a belt attached to an axle. MORE SPEED = MORE BOOST

@bertall1ca

2 жыл бұрын

LOL. That might be possible with a front wheel drive car.

Make it with a clutch wheel so that it continues to spin when you turn off the starter motor.

A push button mounted on the gearshift handle would make it much easier to control your timing on when the turbo kicks in. That would give you better reaction times. I would be curious to see what the actual times down the track after a good dyno tuning would do for it

Again.. funny as .... thanks guys,. Good to see another project from you guys. Hope you are all save and healthy✌

i'd be curious to see this on a dyno to see what the actual output is N/A and e-turbo, thats pretty cool all the same

The Russian folks are good people. I can't say the same of their leaders.

@Artist1974CH

2 жыл бұрын

If you are from US, UK, or EU, all your leaders are total corrupt bastards!

@swrzesinski

2 жыл бұрын

WTF, over 50% rASSians supports war in Ukraine. They have a brain, don't they?

@PROPHETS-BAIN

3 ай бұрын

I suppose you think zelensky isn't a nazi also 😂.

it still needs better tuning , the smoke that came out of the exhaust is called detonation ,it is when your air/fuel mixture ignites before the spark. you could use a fuel regulator to get more fuel in the mixture which will enhance the power since it wouldn't run lean anymore and fuel regulators are cheap as well.

Turbos take a hi-pressure oil feed off the engine block to the 2x plain bearings holding the impeller shaft. I didn't seen any provision for providing oil on this otherwise excellent piece of "standalone engineering"!! Develop it into a retro-fit kit and sell it as part of your "Merch". :-)

That’s considered more of a supercharger than a turbo

You boys are brilliant on the tools I love the way u fabricate and fetal bits a pieces I find it brilliant to watch 👍👍

Run the belt right to the engine. use a AC clutch to cycle the supercharger on or off. Like nitrous. Maybe some scuba tanks for boost also.

Treadmill motor puts out 1/3 hp, a V8 starter motor between 1 to 1.5hp, and a diesel starter motor between 5-7hp. A turbocharger at full throttle on a small 4 cylinder is recovering about 20hp from the exhaust stream. These electric motors all have various rpm ranges which need to be accounted for in gearing to a mechanical turbo or technically a supercharger, I did the reading so you didn't have to.

Can’t help noticing the subtle blue and yellow acknowledgement. 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼

I absolutely love your experiments. You guys are great!!

Get a 4 speed blower motor switch from a climate control system. You have four different levels of power 25% 50% 75% and 100%. Run the switch output to your blower motor power input. This has a massively bad lag time. The turbo should always be spinning somewhat. If you leave the blower motor switch on low or medium low positions you should idle fine. Positions medium-high and high should be connected to a switch on the gas pedal or throttle so the turbo will only spool up at wide open throttle. Unless the gas pedal is pressed to the floor the blower motor will remain in the low or medium low setting. If you properly hook up your electrical this can be achieved with relays.

The turbo in a Lada? WoW! It works!

Who can not love those crazy happy boys?))

Best car channel on KZread hands down

You're in the good path to make an eTurbo now you just need 2 things A variable resistance to control the RPM of the electric motor so you control the boost and a fine tune starting from the Idle ( no boost but still turning the turbo has to always be spinning otherwise it chokes the engine air intake ) to the max rev at full throttle and then you should see some nice boost, not even talking about de gasoline intake but if you use a carburetor it might simplify thing in one hand but will make some other things harder, anyway that's one really interessting project here guys good luck !

you guys do th craziest shit. I love it!!!! the fabrication!! you guys are living the dream!!!

So 24v stater .with correct pullis. Planty of tourqe. Ad secound battery please More should be done on this idea. Love your channel. God bless. Mick Australia 🇦🇺 ❤️

I have no doubt that this is where Porsche got the idea of electrically driven turbochargers.

A thumb up even for your music playing in the background when you work the metal my Russian friends. I am happy to from time to time see positively minded folks like you

Starter has a lot of torque but isn't designed to run for longer periods. I would put it on its own power supply.. make sure it has adequate amperage and it will run cooler. You would gain power by changing out the pulleys to maximize how fast the blower pulley spins without burning out the starter. A simple button that has to be held down to activate could be mounted under the gas pedal. Extend it and possibly put a spongey material above it so it will activate 3/4 throttle and not hender your gas pedal from going all the way down. You let up and it stops. Or..... a potentiometer that is mounted next to the gas pedal rod. It will increase power as you push on the gas. I'm jealous. You guys are having too much fun 😆