*PLEASE READ THIS COMMENT AND THE VIDEO DESCRIPTION FOR HELPFUL INFORMATION* **This mod can also be done on a 1st Gen Tacoma (1995-2004). The only difference is you need to change the front brake lines for the mod to work. This kit from LCE Performance is nice way to go: www.lceperformance.com/Stainless-Brake-Line-Kit-Tacom-To-Tundra-Upgrade-p/1055114.htm **PARTS** *BRAKE CALIPERS* - If you want Toyota OEM calipers, we suggest you get some used ones whether you find them for sale online from somewhere like Ebay or Craigslist or you go to a auto wreckers like PickNPUll and you grab a used set of a wrecked Tundra or Sequoia. Brand new OEM Calipers are very expensive so we don't recommend going that route. *ROTORS* - It's ok to go aftermarket here but we do prefer OEM.. Toyota Rotors #43512-0C011 amzn.to/2rw1Dgt *PADS* - It's also ok to go aftermarket here too but we prefer OEM. Toyota Pads (for 231mm calipers only) #04465-35290 amzn.to/33sAs3a *SHIM KIT* - with OEM pads, we recommend using the anti-squeal shim kit. Toyota Shim Kit #04945-35120 amzn.to/33rr3ZC *DOT 3 BRAKE FLUID* amzn.to/33ZK8TF *BRAKE CLEANER* amzn.to/2KuJ6Yw *BLACK SPRAY PAINT* - amzn.to/2Doq5CY *BRAKE CALIPER GREASE* amzn.to/2OMFPoG **HELPFUL TOOLS** *If you're looking for other tools not used in this video, check out Timmy's Master Tool List.* www.amazon.com/shop/timmythetoolman?isPublicView=true *6 TON JACK STANDS* amzn.to/2MM91w6 *HEAVY DUTY RUBBER WHEEL CHOCKS* amzn.to/2mttRWp *DEWALT 1/2" DRIVE IMPACT GUN* amzn.to/2M2Y9J1 *DEWALT BATTERIES* amzn.to/2urcx59 *DEWALT BATTERY CHARGER* amzn.to/2Ud8RlY *SMALL SIZE MAGNETIC PARTS TRAY* (Good for holding lug nuts or smaller fasteners/parts) amzn.to/2m6kQ5y *FLEX HEAD FLARE NUT WRENCH SET* amzn.to/32GoIdy *SILICONE PLUG KIT* amzn.to/34Joap7 *VACUUM CAP KIT* - option to silicone plug. A 7/32” vacuum cap fits nicely over the flared brake tubing end. amzn.to/31hXY2G *1/2” DRIVE BREAKER BAR* - 18” Long amzn.to/2O7HpCo *1/2" DRIVE FLEX HEAD GEARWRENCH RATCHET* amzn.to/2Wnbq2r *1/2” DRIVE 6-POINT STANDARD METRIC SOCKET SET* amzn.to/35dKQwW *PLASTIC MALLET* amzn.to/2CCOqVP *RED PAINT PEN* amzn.to/34ngQid *DREMEL TOOL KIT* amzn.to/2DcQHqG *STRAIGHT NOSE NEEDLE NOSE PLIERS* amzn.to/2pQ6yIa *CDI 1/2" DRIVE FOOT POUND TORQUE WRENCH* amzn.to/2UPhyjK *CDI 3/8" DRIVE FOOT POUND TORQUE WRENCH* amzn.to/2U2vUA4 *OFFSET BOXEND WRENCH SET* - Great for turning brake bleeders. The offset gets the wrench away from the tire. amzn.to/2sei01t **As Ebay Partner Network members, we earn commissions from qualifying purchases. **As Amazon Associates we earn from qualifying purchases.

@chasing_bends

4 жыл бұрын

If upgrading stainless steel brake lines do you use 3rd gen lines or tundra lines

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

@@chasing_bends Get lines meant for your 3rd Gen 4runner.

@jonathanornelas9238

4 жыл бұрын

Hi question 13WL calipers or 13WE Will work with same size off rotors correct? As long I have the tundra rotors I can use both sizes of calipers right

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanornelas9238 Yes, both calipers use the same size Tundra rotors.

@jonathanornelas9238

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman thanks buddy

I'm glad that you cover everything in detail. Your even transparent about possible mishaps, or mistakes with certain senarios on these procedures! Thank you Tim, and Happy Holidays! 👍

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

We're glad you like the video and appreciate us sharing the mishaps and mistakes that we come across when wrenching on these rigs. You're very welcome and Happy Holidays back at ya.

Thank you Timmy and Sean! Greetings from Ontario. I've done so many repairs and upgrades to my 3rd gen that I wouldn't even try if it weren't for your channel! Just did this upgrade today. You guys have saved me a boatload of money and I have learned lots! Stay safe and wrench on dudes!

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Hey there my Canadian Brother, we're stoked to hear that our videos have inspired you to take on jobs that you wouldn't have otherwise done without our tutorials to follow. This is great to hear. Doing your own wrenching does save you a ton of money on expensive labor costs at shops as you have found out. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us. We appreciate it! Happy Wrenching Ehh!

thank you for this video!! Did this last weekend and the hardest part was bleeding the brakes.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Glad the job went well for you.

Keep up the good work! The added “mmkay” is fantastic and all the extra goodies! Great channel, it’s nice to see people keeping these older Toyota’s alive and well!

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Loyd. Glad you like our channel and we appreciate you taking the time to comment. Keeping these rigs well-maintained and performing sic mods on them has been lots of fun so we're going to keep on keeping on. Happy Wrenching!

I completed this upgrade two years ago on my 04 Tacoma. What a game changer. 33's on 17s stops so much better. Thank you for your channel and service Timmy!!!!

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Robin. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@jraddd3477

4 жыл бұрын

Did you use the 199 or 231?

Dude. You've got awesome video's. Most every detail articulated & very well. 👍

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! It Sean's and my goal to give the most accurate and clear information in our videos so people have the best chance at being successful with a repair or modification. Thanks for taking the time to give us feedback.

This channel really has helped me progress with my 4Runner. Thank you guys so much for all of your videos!

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear Seth. You're very welcome.

Thanks a Ton Tim! I did the upgrade to my 2002 4Runner Limited. I've had trouble with shimmy for a long time, probably replaced the rotors 2 or 3 times. I live in Colorado and the few trips I made coming down the canyons seemed to cause the issue very soon after replacing. I was very careful on the later ones to be sure I wasn't riding the brakes. I'd downshift, click the over drive, still the wobble returned. It was unsafe sometimes too, coming down Rabbit Ears Pass near Steamboat the whole car was jumping all over the place and no I wasn't racing down. I seriously thought I might have to ditch! In desperation I searched and found a few leads that took me to this video. Its the best out there for sure. I can't thank Tim and his crew enough. (Post a link and I'll paypal you a pizza and beer or something! I'm no mechanic, but this video got me over the brink to try doing it.) I used stock Toyota pads, rotors and shims, I used Checker or someone like that's calipers. I went for the bigger WL calipers. The hardest part of the whole job is trimming the dust shield and getting the brake line seated again. The difference is AMAZING and if you're on the fence at all, just do it. It gave me confidence in my rig again. On whether its dust build up or warped rotors, I have my old rotors and been meaning to drop them off at a brakes plus to see if they can see a warp. Thanks again Tim!

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Chuck. Glad this upgrade gave you more confidence driving your rig down mountain passes. I'm also stoked to hear it was our video that gave you the confidence to tackle this job. I've been to Colorado many times mountain biking and maybe I'll get out to your area of Colorado one day. I've ridden in Grand Junction, Crested Butte, Gunnison, Durango, Vail, Boulder, Winter Park, Telluride and Salida. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your success story with this upgrade. Happy Wrenching Chuck!

This is awesome, tim. Keep up the great work!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks Noah.

I friggin love this channel

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

WITH Timmy Well Thanks! Sean and I would have been happy with "like" but Love is even better. Happy Wrenching and welcome to our channel.

Awesome video man! Now I’m less stressed to do it on my rig lol. I was kinda skeptical but feel much better now after watching your video thanks Timmy!!!

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Luis and you're welcome. What you're going to find as you turn more wrenches is auto mechanics really isn't that hard. If you have the Right Information, Right Tools and Right Level of Patience, you can do most of your own automotive work. There are still specialty jobs that are better left to the professionals like an engine rebuild, but for the most part, you can do your own work and be quite successful at it. Good luck with the TBU and Happy Wrenching!

Thank you for taking the time to include the written detailed information regarding the fitment of the parts and more detailed information.

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

No problem Enrique. You're very welcome.

Mkay

Thanks alot for your videos. U explain things very well and have helped me make some repairs and upgrades i couldnt of done with out your vids. Very helpful very grateful!! Thanks man!

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Misael thanks for stopping by in the comments and leaving us feedback! The reason we keep making these videos are for comments like these!

Another great video Tim , thanks much. Suggestion for onlookers. Remove break line clip before detaching hardline from caliper. Doing so provides play n line eliminating need for hardline bend when detaching from caliper. You will find easier access to caliper bolts & much easier hardline reconnection.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the video and thanks for sharing the tip about the brake line.

I did this upgrade and never had any rotor warping after, the stock 4runner kept warping

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this information. I've heard the same thing from my buddy Sean and is one of significant benefits of this upgrade.

@francoisl7663

6 жыл бұрын

Really? My first gen brakes keep getting screwed. I'm a conservative braker too.

@ponyboyack00

5 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman Hey Tim. I just saw a video where a guy upgraded his rear brake cylinder from a 15/16, to a 1" made for a Tundra. I had never heard of this, and he was clear not to do it without upgrading the Front's first, for safety reasons. This seems like overkill to me, but maybe has some applications. Maybe for offroading applications, simpler than a swap to rear disks, and you keep the parking brake... Any thoughts on this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y6hrrtqdo9Odm5s.html

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

@@ponyboyack00 This is the first I've heard of this. I would never bother with a rear disk conversion because the benefits are minimal for a fair amount of work. With the TBU, your brake pedal ends up traveling a bit further because you put on bigger calipers that require more brake fluid but use the same master cylinder. If you do what this guy suggests, I would expect you'd get further brake pedal travel because now your asking for even more fluid flow from the same OEM master cylinder. Since the rear brakes only do around 25% of your braking anyway, I sort of doubt you're even going to notice a difference by doing what this guy suggests in the video you linked. But, maybe I'm wrong.

@Justhetip89

7 ай бұрын

³​@@francoisl7663

Mm-k.

You responded to every question on this video. Wow that takes tremendous effort. Subbed.

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for noticing Tyler. We try our best to answer every question and acknowledge every comment. Our channel isn't so big that we can't provide this level of service to our subscribers and viewers. Some comments do squeak by us, but we do get back to most people in a short amount of time. Welcome to our channel. Happy Wrenching!

Timmy you’re the freaking man for making this video! Definitely gives me more confidence know what to do now. I imagine you continue pumping the brakes until you don’t see anymore air pockets in the line?

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you appreciate the video Terry. Good to know our video is giving you the confidence to do this job. Check out our brake bleeding video for more into on how to bleed brakes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKKtrZWPXbKtnpc.html

Hello again Tim. I did this job yesterday, and it went quite smoothly. One thing that made me whip a wrench at the ground was trying to get the flair nuts into the new calipers. The 1st one took me a good 15 minutes of subtle bends and tweaks. The second took me an hour, I swear to god. I ended up using a pair of pliers to put positive pressure on the face of the nut, without crimping down on the brake line. Then, I just kept adjusting the angle and spinning the nut until it grabbed... On the topic of "bed-in", I agree with you. I'm not sure if it is necessary or not. I think in general, avoiding hard braking and imprinting when the setup is new is critical. I did the bed-in procedure and I did notice much better "grab" after. I bet it would have gotten there in no time anyways, but I figured that I might as well get it where it should be quickly, to avoid the risk of imprinting... Thanks again to you and Shawn for the great work.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Spangenberg Hey Mike, I agree about getting the brake lines reconnected to the new calipers. It's definitely a test of patience getting the threads started. Thanks for letting us know the bedding in procedure worked out really well. Happy Wrenching!

Thanks for this awesome video. Was thinking of doing this on my 1999 Hilux Surf and feel I can do this on my own thanks to this video. Great job! Thanks

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Kevin, great to hear our video is giving you the confidence to do this modification on your own. You're welcome and good luck with the job.

Another excellent video Tim! This was the 1st mod I did to my 00 T4R and never looked back! When I bought the truck I had soft brake pedal and after bleeding the brakes post upgrade I still do, but then again I never drained the rear brake lines... It's too cold to do it now so will have to wait till spring... A side note, one of my calipers (I think the left one) the brake line also had to be tightened extra turn or so for it to stop leaking completely; hindsight, maybe I should have put a thin layer of plumber's tape on the threads but it's been about 9 months since my upgrade and it hasn't leaked a drop so I'm calling that good. Keep up the good work!!!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

The passenger side brake connection to the caliper ended up leaking and I was confident I had the connection tightened enough not to leak. That certainly messed us up for a while during the bleeding process until one of the guys at the house saw it dripping down. I gave it another quarter turn and the leaking stopped.

I did the upgrade on my 99 4runner more than a year ago. I used the Power stop Z36 drilled and slotted rotors with matching carbon ceramic brake pads for a 2004 tundra 231mm. After the upgrade, the only downside is that when you step on the brakes, the pedal goes lower than before. it was all good then after almost 20,000 miles, my rig now shakes with along with the steering wheel shimmy while braking when I'm exiting the freeway. I bought EBC plain rotors with their green stuff brake pads for a 2006 tundra to replace my current setup. The Power stop rotors didn't cut it at all. Nice work in this by the way.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Hey James, I missed this comment. That's good to know about the Power Stop rotors. Thanks for taking the time to share this information.

Been studying this video a few times and I think I got it. Went with OEM rotors, pads and shim kit. As far as calipers, I went with the Napa 231mm ones. Just ordered the gearwrench 1/2 flex head ratchet that was on sale at $38 using your link! Thanks Timmy for a good informative video. Will be knocking this out soon!

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the job Josh. Hope it goes smooth for you.

@0341stroker

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman did this last weekend it install went smoothly! My rear driver side bleeder would not bleed… turns out there was corrosion in the bleeder bc the rubber caps that cover the bleeders were missing. Used the vacuum plugs you linked in the description to cover all 4 bleeders. Great sic mod 🤘🏽

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

@@0341stroker Great job getting this sic mod done Josh. Thanks for getting back to us to share your success story. Happy Wrenching!

Tim - I believe that a lot of the brake wobble people experience can be attributed to rotor warp-age due to over torqued lug nuts. Shops notoriously over torque the wheels. My daughter bought a 2000 4R last year which had brand new brakes and vented rotors with less than 1000 miles on them. There was wobble which seemed to worsen. When we went to install new rotors/ brakes we found the lug nuts tightened to 130 ft-lbs . 12k miles later there is no wobble at all. Thanks for all your videos. I always look to yours first.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Hans, thanks for sharing this. I have heard improperly torqued lug nuts could cause this and it's good to have some more confirmation that it can indeed be the reason for the front end wobble. We're glad you're liking the videos. Happy Wrenching!

I dig this video...super informative from start to finish. Great job...im doin mine soon and this was just what I needed to get my mind right

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found this video informative. Good luck with the job. Happy Wrenching!

Thanks for the help amazing video. I’m from Florida and over here me and my friends love your videos

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Abraham. Great to hear you and your friends appreciate the videos Sean and I are making. Thanks for the comment and Happy Wrenching!

Timmy- I just followed your video and did this sick mod. It eliminated my front end shimmy when slowing down. Used all OEM tundra parts, found them cheapest at Camelback.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Great to hear the mod worked out for you. Good job getting it done.

Always so informative and detailed. Much love.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

We're glad you like it. Thanks for taking the time to comment. We appreciate it!

Hi Timmy. I just bought a 2002 Toyota 4 runner Sr5 and i love it. I want to upgrade the brakes. I don't want to change the rims and tires. I have 265/70/16 so i'm thinking to go with the 199mm 13WE . Your videos are very helpful. You're the best. Thank you so much.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thanks for taking the time to let us know you like what we're doing. Sean and I appreciate it. Happy Wrenching!

This is an awesome guide! A couple of side notes: 1. A lot of brake shops (from what I've experienced, anyway) won't resurface rotors anymore. 2. Resurfacing your rotors ends up making things worse, in a way, because you now have even less mass to absorb the heat, and so they'll warp again even faster. That's what I found with my 2000 SR5. 3. I ended up going with some upgraded (slotted) rotors and higher quality pads, and those have been good for the last 5-7 years. I would love to do this upgrade, but got scared off because I didn't want to have to buy a new set of rims to get everything to fit.

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Hey David, you're right that not as many shops resurface rotors anymore but I don't agree that resurfacing them makes things worse. When you resurface, you aren't raking off that much materail. If the rotors were grooved really bad, they'd have to be trashed anyway. The amount of material they remove isn't going to dramatically affect the heat dissipation. Also, rotors don't warp from the heat. What ends up happening is you get uneven brake pad deposits on the rotor or uneven wear that cause the brake shuddering. The amount of heat it would take to actually make a rotor bend is massive. So, don't be reluctant to get rotors resurfaced. I resurfaced the ones on my rig that I did the TBU on and everything is great.

@chofyam3466

Жыл бұрын

You can put drilled and slotted, with rear drum brakes?

THANK Y'ALL so much, did this swap in my son's 3rd gen runner. Brakes are from Orielly auto parts ( spent too much money there...613.72) stops on a dime. Also did a complete brake fluid flush. Cannot wait to replace the calipers and rotors on my 3rd gen runner...Thanks again.

@TimmyTheToolman

11 ай бұрын

You're welcome Mike. I hope your son was involved with the job to learn along with you. Turning wrenches is becoming a lost art.

@michaelhenderson9910

11 ай бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman yes he helped....he bought the parts....and did the passenger side while I did the drivers side....I was faster....lol

@TimmyTheToolman

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelhenderson9910 That's awesome. Great to hear he's interested in auto mechanics.

Thank you for putting in all this work and filming it to help guys like myself do it ourselves. Have you done a 3rd gen rear disc brake conversion? I can't seem to find a video from you on this.

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and thanks for taking the time to comment and let us know you appreciate our efforts. We have not done a rear disc brake conversion yet. But, I'm pretty sure there's a write-up or some type of information regarding it on a Toyota forum somewhere.

Great video. Only recommendation is that when you install new (dry) calipers is to 'gravity bleed' them first, prior to the full bleeding sequence. This will get the majority of air out of the calipers and make bleeding easier and more successful.

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip Ralph.

Seriously underrated channel. Fantastic work! 👍🏻

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike. We appreciate it. We have been on a slow and steady growth. We do in a big way separate ourselves from other DIY automotive repair channels though. Pretty much nobody offers the detail we do in our videos. Absolute beginners with the interest in learning and willingness to buy tools can follow our videos step by step and get the job done. Other KZreadrs leave out important detail that leaves the viewer lost on how to proceed. I'm surprised as well that our channel hasn't attracted more subscribers. A whole lot of people use our videos every month, around 200k+ views per month, but getting them to want to subscribe is another story. Anyway, we'll keep doing what we're doing.

@Mike_44

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman You do deserve more subscribers.. I have watched quite a few videos out there on 4Runners and while there are many good ones, none compare in my opinion to the amount of details you guys offer, which is crucial for 1st timers like me on this topic. Keep up the great work, it will pay off. Thanks again. 👍🏻

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mike_44 Thanks Mike. We'll keep on keeping on.

Good video! Really nice step by step examples, links and parts # info! I had the front brake wobble on my 3rd Gen but I decided to try new stock rotors first to see if that fixed it and so far they are working great. I don't tow often so that helps. One thing I noticed is that my rear brakes were not self adjusting properly and were way out of adjustment. Now with everything in perfect adjustment and the back brakes working better it obviously has way more stopping power. I think the out of adjustment rear brakes were putting too much load on the front brakes and contributed to the wobble problem.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

What was causing the rear brakes to not self-adjust and how did you fix it.

@SEKI14000

7 жыл бұрын

It seemed that they were just gummed up with brake dust and old grease. I took the rear brakes completely apart and cleaned everything perfectly then re-greased the adjusters with SuperLube Teflon Grease. Also sparingly greased all pivot/wear points in the brakes. They now self adjust properly each time the parking/emergency brake is used.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Cool. I want to video a rear brake job at some point in the near future.

@ther1912

6 жыл бұрын

How did you check the rear brake adjustments?

@Bungalow86

5 жыл бұрын

to adjust the rears easiest on these trucks after a fresh brake job, roll backwards in neutral and yank up and down on the parking brake. hold the button so you can keep yanking it up and down without it locking the handle on you. repeat for a few passes and you will start to feel the parking brake begin to grab harder and harder until it basically starts stopping the truck when you yank it. there is a night and day difference in brake performance once you go drive it. i like this way because it forces the rear brake drums to adjust themselves as much as they can naturally, as opposed to turning adjusters manually and potentially going too far...as always ... BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS BEFORE DOING THIS.

Tundra brake upgrade from hell is in progress on my 04 Tacoma. After tackling a 4WD conversion a brake job feels less wild and I was ambitious enough to just do the upgrade one afternoon. I went the OEM Toyota route + NAPA calipers. Since I can't reuse the old lines on a Tacoma I got some brake lines from Wheeler's Off-Road. The passenger side went alright. The stock rubber brake line was a bit hard to loosen from the hard lines even with a higher end flare nut wrench but nothing terrible. I move to the driver side and things haven't gone smoothly. I literally couldn't get the fitting to come off and the flare nut wrench was just bending the whole line. Eventually it came off and I could feel the brake line fitting just tearing up as the soft line unscrewed. The hard line fitting threads were destroyed. Once I realized this I went to unscrew the other end of this short hard line which attaches to a frame mounted L shaped fitting. This end of this line also required hulk strength and came out cross threaded. I chased this cross threading issue up one more line before it stopped. No idea why but 3 sections of my driver side brake lines were extremely over-torqued from the factory. Just something to watch out for if you're a Tacoma guy. A couple users over on Tacoma World ran into this too but none had to buy 3 sections of brake line like I did. Would've gone just as smooth as this video if I had a 4Runner.

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this Andrew. That sucks the brake lines are so hard to break free on some of the Tacomas.

Loving the new microphone! Another great video!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah we had some comments about the audio quality and finally did something about it. I unfortunately forgot to install the mic on a recent video that will come out sometime next month. Oh well, shit happens.

Best Toyota channel on here. Thx as always.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Corey. We appreciate the nice compliment.

I never had brake problems on my stock 1997 4runner but this is a good upgrade.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Luis M When I bought my 2000 used, I found that the brakes shuddered. I just bought replacement premium rotors from Napa and some ceramic pads and the shuddering went away. I do think the Tundra Brake Upgrade helps prevent the uneven deposit of brake pad material because the larger rotors dissipate more heat and thus won't get as hot as OEM size rotors. Uneven deposits happen when you get the rotors super hot and then come to a stop holding the pads against the superheated rotor surface. The pads will leave an imprint of a little extra material in that spot. With enough uneven deposits on the rotor, you end up with brake shuddering. People miskakingly think the rotor is actually warping but this is a common misconception. If you know how to use engine braking, instead of riding your brakes down a long mountain road descent, you'll be less likely to overheat your brakes.

@chieflouie2821

7 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman Thanks Timmy!

Great job man 👍 Just wanted to see some ‘before and after’ brakes test. That would have been much interactive.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ahmed. You make a good point about a brake test. So far, all I've heard is subjective feedback from people but nothing objective. Maybe some hard braking at different speeds and measuring the stopping distance. But, where do you conduct a test like that in a busy city. Maybe a big commercial parking lot after hours would be an option.

@karter9908

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman burnishing brakes is absolutely necessary if you want any Valid Test comparisons. **70-50mph @ medium(8ftsec) decel...back to 70 for a mile. 150 snubs.... Brakepads will achieve 250-280° f. And stay there for entire burnish. This is GM fmvss STD brake burnish prep for testing. *Larger trucks get 500 snubs!!!!! Yes, it takes more than 2 days....😳 Note: leaf blower to clean road test surface!!

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

@@karter9908 Sounds labor intensive.

I'm late but I have done this on all of my 3rd gens from Sequoias I found in the junk yards. Saves lots of money. Good video!!! P.s. the akebono pads seem to be the best for me!

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you're collecting 3rd Gens. Join the crowd.

@titanjake8640

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman I swear man in my area they are becoming extinct!! I sent you my highest mileage one via IG 😊. I'll make a video soon

Timmy! Another Great video! Thank you very much.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Clint Andren Glad you think so Clint. You're welcome.

Your videos are great. Thank you, Sir!

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and you're very welcome.

I fixed my problem with the steering wheel shake by doing a brake pad bedding in process. I used to take it easy with new brake pads until it was broken in. Now after installing the new brake pads and new rotors. I will speed up to about 50-55 mph and then brake hard down to about 25 mph and immediately after reaching the 25 mph I will accelerate back up to 50-55 mph again. Do this cycle five times. The next five cycles will consist of speeding up to 50-55 mph but brake down moderately hard down to 25. After the last one, drive until the pads cool down. Don't stop until they are cooled down. I found out about this bedding process when I bought one set of Hawk brake pads. You will need a road that allows you to do this. I tried another brand of brake pads and they had a bedding in process that is similar to what the Hawk brand recommended. I haven't experienced any steering shimmy for over 200k miles, which included two brake pad and rotor replacement. I usually get about 80 or 90k miles with a new set of pads. Google "brake pad bedding in" and you will find instructions for this. The brake pads will generate a lot of smoke during the bedding in process. The process I used is recommended for race cars. I have no complaints about the results I achieved.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Just like you, many others have swore by the bedding in process. I haven't personally tried it out yet. On my 2000, I just replaced the rotors and pads with some premium ones from Napa. I sometimes feel a little shimmy but my braking has been great for several years and around 70k miles. Knowing how to use engine braking and not riding the brakes down steep grades is part of the equation. There's a high percentage of people that don't know they can use lower gears with their automatic transmission to slow them down while descending a grade. They just ride the brakes until they are smoking hot and imprint brake pad material when they have to come to a full stop. The key is to not overheat your brake rotors in the first place. The Tundra Brake Upgrade gives you a larger rotor that will dissipate more heat and I think that's one of the reasons why this mod is so popular because people with less than perfect driving skills are able to avoid overheating their brakes. But, you can still overheat the Tundra rotors if you're a really shitty driver and just ride the brakes down a long mountain descent.

Y’all’s trucks are so clean. Wish I was in CA

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Well, California does have nice weather but there's plenty of down sides like the cost of living.

Awesome video, can't wait to do this to my 4runner

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan, we're glad you like the video. You'll like this upgrade.

Hey Timmy and Sean great job with all your videos and I thank you for them. Regarding your big brake upgrade. I just had to rebuild my 20 year old brake master cylinder for my 01 Taco 4x4 because a little bit of the edge of the closest rubber seal to the booster tuned backwards during 95 degree weather. I could have just turned it the right way but I used a genuine Toyota rebuild kit and I became a pro at rebuilding my master cylinder. Today, I found that I could have upgraded from my 13/16" master cylinder to a 1" master cylinder. Youre a pro at researching these things and this would be an upgrade to all of us making our rigs heavier. Please advise!

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the videos Sean and I are making. In regards to doing the research for a master cylinder upgrade, I can't guarantee that will ever happen. But, if someone comes to us with this job or one of us decides we'd like to do this mod, then maybe it will happen. Thanks for the comment. Happy Wrenching!

@bobbyturbopants

3 жыл бұрын

Did you have to mess with the connection at calipers?

awesome awesome video man thank you so much the detail is insane

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mikey. Great to hear you enjoy the detail this video offers. We appreciate your comment. Happy Wrenching!

I had the same shimmy problem on my 02 Tacoma 4WD V6 and I found on a forum somewhere that the shimmy was actually caused by the rear drums. So, I replaced the drum pads and the shimmy when away. I know, it doesn’t make sense, but it worked.

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I could see how rear shoes could cause a shimmy but so could front rotors. Thanks for sharing this.

Thank you for this helpful video! Im about to order oem rotors,pads & shims, and get calipers from napa. One quick question i had was; do you reuse the 17mm caliper bolts off of the 4runner calipers for the tundra calipers?

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you reuse the 17mm bolts. You're very welcome and good luck with the job.

Great video as always. Just wondering if you and Sean can recommend a some brake lines if I were to do this brake upgrade.

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Wheelers Offroad makes some good brake lines. wheelersoffroad.com/shopbyvehicle/4runner/96-02-4runner/performance-brake-lines.html

@andrew203

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman Hi tim. Sorry I forgot to ask....do I purchase tundra brake lines or 4runner brake lines? Or all they all standard connections?

Hey Timmy. do you recall what cv's the owner is using? they look upgraded.I/m from Aus by the way.. my application will be to a toyota prado 90 series but the 3rd gen 4runner shares a lot of similar parts. Also i always put my low brake pad indicator on the leading edge of a rotor. so in this case the other way around to which you had. on some vehicles where the spring sits on one side only this prevents the sequel you hear when braking in reverse due to sticky pistons.. thats why the spring is there. to return the brake pads away from the rotor on the leading edge. Love what you do mate. you've taught me a lot. Thank you

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike, I sent a text to Jay and I'll let you know what he says when he gets back to me. We're glad you like our channel and are learning a lot from our videos. Hearing this always brings a smile to our faces.

Another quality TTT video production.

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brandon. Glad you like it.

Great video, I would recommend you use blue thread lock instead of anti-seize on the caliper mounting bolts for the obvious safety reasons.

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Cool Man A/C & Heating I guess it depends on what part of the country you're in. I think people in the salt belts put antiseize on everything. You do make a valid point but I think if the bolts are torqued to spec, they aren't going anywhere. Glad you like the video.

@leannatrout4940

6 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman i believe they only need threadlocker if the old bolts had threadlocker previously on it or if the manufacturers recommend it..i have seen bolts torqued to spec come loose eventually and they required threadlocker

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Leanna Trout That's a good point.

Goo job but anti seize for the brake carrier is a no no, you should use a medium strength lock tight to keep bolts from getting loose.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Well, I don't know about that. People in the rust belt of the country might disagree with you. Now, we're in sunny California, but I highly doubt those caliper bolts are going to come loose especially since they were torqued to spec. I put some blue loctite on my lower balljoint bolts because people had reported having them come loose and fall out. I don't think I've ever had any fastener fall off of a vehicle I've owned and worked on.

outstanding video of DIY. I think the Runner and T100 has the same cablier. but I wonder if I'll fit the T100 also. who knoes you can also add a manual locking hub to it too. 👍👍👍👍

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Don't know about the T100, but I bet it would work. As long as the caliper bolt holes line up, it would work. You'd still have the same issues with the mod - having to trim the dust shield to allow the caliper to fit and then whether or not your current wheels will fit over the larger calipers. And, maybe the location where the metal brake line connects to the caliper could be a little different so you'd either have to try to manipulate the brake line to work or buy an aftermarket flexible braided line. Manual locking hubs? Hmmm. No clue on that one. Don't know what kind of modification that would require to make that work.

@87MENGER

7 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman I'm sure it will. After all the T100 is the first gen of the tundra. Now I just have to find out if I need the thicker mm or not. thanks buddy

Good stuff, thank you for the video. Is there any reason not to simply cut off the backing plate entirely, rather than the careful trimming you did to it?

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Well Tom, manufacturers put them in for a reason. Supposedly brake dust is corrosive and the shield blocks the dust from ending up getting on other components under your rig. It also helps keep debris out of your disk brakes but disk brakes are suppose to be self-cleaning so who know how important of a feature that is. I think the right call is to trim the brake dust shields rather than eliminating them altogether.

Excellent video, thank you for posting it!

@TimmyTheToolman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. You're very welcome.

Great videos as always. I did this mod years ago, and just yesterday had another thought. Have you EVER heard of anyone using the old front calipers for a rear drum conversion... and if so who may make the brackets so I don’t have to fab them... LOL.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

There's a guy on T4R.org that's got a disk brake conversion for the rear for 3rd Gen 4runners but it uses Ford Mustang calipers.

@cg6089

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen his setup. But I’ve never heard of anyone just rolling the fronts to the rear... to keep it all in the Toyota family.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

@@cg6089 That would be cool.

@cg6089

3 жыл бұрын

So, clearly the reason why this was never done… the fronts have no parking brake. If that’s not an issue for you it would be fine, but that’s the reason for the mustang (or similar).

Every Toyota truck I’ve ever owned had miserable brakes. I just changed out all my rotors, calipers, and pads with OEM parts and did a complete fluid flush. I’ll be lucky if I get a year out of it before the wobble starts again. Been through it enough times to know its inevitable. Mine is a 2012 Tundra Crewmax Platinum. Good luck

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use engine braking Nick? I had gnarly brake wobble when I bought my 2000 4runner over 8 years ago. I got some premium rotors from Napa and some ceramic pads and my brakes have been great ever since. The key is too not overheat the brakes.

Thanks Timmy for this Video. This is a Mod I haven’t done yet but now I’m going to do it soon. Is it necessary to bleed the 2 rear brake lines? Or could you just get away with bleeding the 2 front brake lines since those were the ones you disconnected from the calipers?

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

You could probably get away with just bleeding the front brakes. Be sure to cap off the brake hard lines with a 7/32 vacuum cap to limit the fluid loss.

Great video. Finding your channel has helped me tremendously. New to the Tacoma world and I love doing work myself. Anyone know, Would this upgrade work for a 2009 Tacoma? It’s 17’ rims so i’m assuming the 231 would work just fine. I live in the mountains of Washington and My truck shakes like crazy on these downhill roads.

@TimmyTheToolman

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John. Don't know if this would work for a newer Tacoma. You'd have to find larger calipers that will bolt to the steering knuckles and I don't know if the Tundra calipers will bolt up.

Hey Tim....excellent video...thank you so much. Had a question for you though- Wouldn't greasing up the pins cause road dirt and brake dust to stick to them? Wouldn't it be better to leave them dry?

@TimmyTheToolman

7 ай бұрын

That's a logical thought, but grease is recommended in all caliper and drum brake systems for the moving parts and both develop lots of dirt or debris, mainly from the brake dust. Leaving them dry would cause more drag of the brake pads on the pins leading to a higher chance the pads will stick and not fully relax away from the rotors after pressure is taken off the brake pedal.

Just got a 3rd gen 4runner. First priority, rear axle bearings and seals. I mean there's friggin' gear oil in the rear brakes! And while I'm at it, the Tundra brake upgrade.

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck with both jobs.

Great video!!! Excellent job!!!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to comment. Glad you like our video.

About to do this on my 2002 Tacoma. Got new brake likes and a Callahan CCK11988 kit

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the Sic Mod!

Thanks for the ideas 👍👍👍👍

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Thomas.

Hey Tim, on the 4runner forum they tell you that you can grind a small section of the larger caliper to make it fit the stock wheels. I used the smaller one on mine but probably would do the bigger ones if I did it again.

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Hey John, I have heard this as well. But, is it safe to do this? I don't know. I wonder how much they are shaving off.

@JohnSmith-se8pf

5 жыл бұрын

Hey @@TimmyTheToolman I see they reference you on the forum so I do not think they would mind you referencing them. www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/94923-hard-find-specs-info-measurements-231mm-13wl-tundra-calipers-rotors.html I did not find the thread that I used to do my swap but all was needed was to trim the dust shield and grind a small nub off of the caliper. It would not even get close to removing enough metal that you would have to worry about the fluid busting though. Apparently a service bulletin came out that phased out the 199mm calipers. BTW I painted mine gold to look cool, except that you can barely see them. A little bit of wasted time!

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-se8pf We provide a link to that T4R thread in the video description as well. That's good to know the caliper only requires a slight shaving to fit.

Do the 6 spoke 96-98/ 99-02 sr5 wheels. these are 16 inch rims with the 265-70-R16 tires. I have these wheels and I wold love to have new Toyota tundra trd bead lock rims but cant afford that.

Hey Timmy The Toolman! Love the videos! I'm thinking of doing the 1" master brake cylinder mod after the Tundra Brake Upgrade to make the pedal feel more stiff. (A bit soft now). I also heard it makes sense to do this since the tundra calipers can take more juice than what the stock runner MBC can give it. I'm in Cali, maybe I can come by and shoot a video with you!

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe we could shoot a video of this. Have you done research on how involved the master cylinder swap is? What year 3rd Gen do you have?

@YotaNation

5 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman I am currently doing research. So far, it looks like it's almost a plug and play scenario if you get the mc from the T100 or the fzj80. I have a 1996 4runner.

@georgepascual9173

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Yota Nation and Timmy The Toolman! I Did my TBU last week and change old braided brake line to (Wheelers off road performance brake line) and I thought something is wrong after because pedal is little bit soft, I even did second brake bleed procedure again today and pedal still soft! I even checked everything if theres a leaked into all the lines and connection and find nothing and I also checked brake booster and did the test and its working properly, Do you think brake cylinder upgrade make the brake little stiffer?

My apologies for the gibberish that my Swype put up there...what i was saying is "you mentioned that the stock rims are 16" the stock rims on my 2001 4Runner are 15 " will I need a differerent size rotor or will the 199 work for the 15 in rim as well thank you for this video and the info

Hey Timmy and Sean you guys should do a video where you overhaul older tundra Brakes with the refurbished kit that they make. Thx so much for this video. So if I have 1.5 spacers I can get run 231mm calipers with stock “16 rims?

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Not 100% sure on whether the spacers will do the trick. It might depend on which wheels you have. There's a guy with a channel called Speedy's Garage that did a rebuild of Tundra Calipers. It's pretty good.

This is great, thank you!!

@TimmyTheToolman

5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome!

Fantastic instructional video but a few notes on this video: The video cuts where the rotor was still rubbing and Timmy says "it could be the angle of the axle" they never show how he fixes the free rotation. And what blew my mind was the pad springs. I've done many brake jobs in my day, I've never seen the pad springs that only go on the top of the caliper and not both, top/bottom.

@TimmyTheToolman

Жыл бұрын

It was the droop of the wheel causing the CV axle to bind. If we would havre jacked up under the lower control arm just a little bit, the axle wouldn't have binded anymore. Yes, it is weird there's only 1 anti-rattle spring per caliper. I think it's smart to buy an extra spring so you can have them top and bottom.

@69ChevyGarage

Жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman Have you done a 3rd gen rear disc brake conversion? It is the one disappointment of the gen 3 4Runners. I'd like to see how you do it, as your instructions are clear and to the point.

Nothing related to your forerunner break issues but on my 2007 double cab tundra, I installed an extra set of brake springs on the bottom pad so that way when these springs which are meant to keep the brake pad off of the rotor, will have even outward pressure to push those pads off of the rotors on the top and now the bottom of the pads.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Joe, that's a good idea. Seems like they should come with 2 springs per side to give the pads equal recoil.

@jamram9924

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but once I saw this similar spring system on Nissans, I decided to order an additional brake calipers hardware set from Carlson called the Q series. Teflon coated on the portion where the brake pads slide and rubberized on the back side to reduce shudder/noise. That doesn't apply to the 4Runner/Tacoma/Tundra since they typically have dual pistons/pins. I always recommend jacking up any vehicle once a year for a complete brake check, clean and lubricate all contact points. More frequent in stop/go traffic. I really like that rotor/brake combination. Any long term results/follow-up?

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Sure, I'll keep in touch with Jay and have him keep me updated on how the brakes are working.

@jamram9924

7 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman: I've used Toyota TRD pads (Kevlar/ceramic based) in place of regular ceramic pads on cars. I've had exceptional braking performance, less fade. Have you tried Toyotas TRD pads on any 4 Runners/Tacomas/Tundras? They should be semi-metallic since that's what OE calls for? Thanks for any information...

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Joe, no I haven't tried Toyota TRD pads on any Toyota trucks. I haven't done much brake work on these rigs other than my truck and this recent one for the Tundra Brake Upgrade. You don't have to use semi-metallic. There are benefits to each type of pad. If you want the best stopping performance, semi-metallic is supposedly the best but harder on the rotors. I've been using Napa ceramic pads on my truck for a couple years and they work great. Now I'm wondering if I should have went with semi-metallic, but like I said, my truck has good braking power so I'm not regretting my decision to use ceramic.

I lost the count of the commercials but thanks a lot for the video!

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

We agree the commercials can be annoying but it's how any KZreadr makes money. I guess we could just be totally generous guys and donate dozens and sometimes hundreds of hours of our time every month for zero compensation but I think we deserve to make some money for our efforts. The motor replacement series we recently uploaded was a tremendous amount of work. We spent 4 very full days, wrenching and filming to document the job. After that, it was dozens of hours of editing. In addition to shooting videos, we spend quite a bit of time everyday keeping up with comments and questions on our channel. I don't know if you noticed, but we try to acknowledge every comment and answer every question that comes in. This takes some time. Think about the rate of return for the viewer. Yes, they have to endure some annoying ads while watching one of our videos. But, that's a pretty small price to pay for the information we are sharing that's allowing them to do a job themselves saving them hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars on expensive labor costs at dealerships and independent shops. We don't charge people to access our videos. Anyone across the globe with an internet connection can watch our videos for free. The reason why I spent this much time replying to you is to give you a KZreadr's perspective. We're not some hot girls in bikinis shaking our asses and doing very little effort to attract subscribers and make tons of money because sex sells. We've worked very hard for the subscribers we have attracted to our channel and we work extremely hard for the nominal amount of money we earn. But, I'm glad you appreciate the video and you're very welcome.

Just did this to my 3rd gen. Found a set of nearly new brakes on a junkyard tundra for $100. Rebuilt the calipers for good measure.

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

You scored. That was a good find.

Thank you Timmy! Now that’s it’s been 6 years, how are the brakes holding up?

@TimmyTheToolman

Жыл бұрын

I'm not in contact with Jay anymore but I did the upgrade on my rig and they're doing great.

Awesome video!!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Cool! We're glad you like it.

Especially with all that added weight with the wheels, tires, bumpers etc. it takes more to stop.

That spring you added at 32:33 I installed one on the lower guide pin as well.. i was getting un even wear on my pads on both sides.. adding an extra spring on both sides has stopped it

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

That has been something that others have done including myself when I did the TBU on my 98 4runner. Why the brake pad kits don't come with two springs doesn't make sense.

What about Gen 4 4RNRs? Same basic concept? ABS? Your stuff is gold!

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know if a Tundra or Sequoia caliper will bolt up to the knuckle of a 4th Gen.

Hi Tim & Sean, thank you for the the video that you and Sean are doing top-notch! The tundra brake upgrade on my GEN 3 98’ four runner, I bought Amazon re-man’d Callahan 13 WL Calipers, I went overboard and I got the cryo-treated stop tech slotted discs, I’m using hawk towing truck pads, I am using 17” fn wheels w 35’s mounted. 3” lift f/a. Diff drop + lotus dev trans axles steel spindle/silicone outer boots/ext silicone orange boots. I noticed the other day when I had to come to an abrupt stop right before an intersection, I didn’t get any pulsating from the ABS and I drifted into the intersection without locking up & foot max pedal, fortunately nobody was coming into the intersection, but it shook me up! I was thinking it could be reman’ brand X calipers? Possibly the hawk tow pads are sluggish, but I would think that they would bite well with truck only. I recently had the master cylinder replaced with Toyota OEM & Toyota service flush, that removed an old abs (static) dash light left over from the brake upgrade 2017 w/included the short frame down SS lines. SS lines are front and back. Since more fluid is moving larger pistons/pads, might replacing brand X calipers with Toyota Tundra calipers remedy the situation? Also I read on a tundra forum that they are upgrading their gen 1 tundra’s with FJ calipers/pads/rotors, which makes me wonder how far this might go before parallel performance is achieved? Thanks

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you might have air in your ABS module.

@davidtobey8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman I had the master Toyota service technician who solved my abs light arrival upon tundra 13wl r/c/pads upgrade solve it by installing a new Gen 3 4R Toyota master cylinder. I can’t imagine the whole process being done without the Toyota ABS module being done by the Toyota brake bleader? I’ll check with my tech on Monday. Thanks

@TimmyTheToolman

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidtobey8062 I thought they already replaced the master cylinder. They replaced it again?

@davidtobey8062

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman no, Ron Tonkin Toyota PDX replaced M/C and removed abs light left over from tundra 13wl brake upgrade.

Great video, did you reference the caliper rebuild kit part number? I have a set of oem calipers that need a overhaul. Thanks!

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Villescas No, we don't have a part number for the rebuild kit. I like using Camelback Toyota in Arizona for most of my Toyota parts purchases. Call them and talk to Amanda and tell her what you need. They will most likely have a rebuild kit in stock or they could get it for you. Their prices are very good and they ship quick.

@matthewvillescas7131

6 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman thank you will do.

Solid presentation!

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@adeelcyril3339

6 жыл бұрын

Timmy The Toolman it was least I could do. Have to give where credit where it is due. This is no different to how I would do this project in my own garage. Keep up the good content!

Great video. Just wondering, is it necessary to bleed all 4 corners (5 in my case, since I have LSPV) when doing this upgrade? I just had all brakes bled a month ago. Would I get away with just bleeding the fronts?

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

We didn't show it but we also replaced a rear brake line on Jay's rig so we had to bleed the entire system. If you use a vacuum cap or something similar over the brake line to stop from losing a bunch of brake fluid, I imagine you probably could get away with just bleeding the front brakes only. I like to use a 7/32" vacuum cap and slip it over the flanged part of the brake line to stop it from leaking. The cap doesn't go over the threaded nut, just over the metal line. Now, with that said, I'd still recommend going through the whole bleeding process just to be safe. I know you just had your brakes bled recently but brake fluid is not expensive. Start with the right rear, then left rear, then right front, then left front and finally the Load Sensing Proportioning Valve should be last. Good luck and Happy Wrenching!

Hi Timmy The Toolman I did this TBU few weeks ago, and I read some of your reply to comments about doing this upgrade your brake travel further because it need more fluid for the bigger caliper correct me if i was wrong if thats the exact word but anyways I would like thank you frist for this great video, my TBU went very well and however I feel little spongy when braking and I already did bleeding twice to make sure theres no air on the brake lines and checked the lines and connection if theres leaking but find nothing is leaking!

@georgepascual9173

3 жыл бұрын

brake pedal travel further I mean*

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Hey George, it's normal for the pedal to feel different and it is because you'r adding bigger calipers but keeping the same master cylinder. Even though the pedal feels a little spongy or soft compared to before, your braking should be improved and better than before. It just takes a little getting use to. I regularly switch between two 3rd Gens, one with the TBU and one without so I'm constantly reminded of the difference in pedal feel. But, I don't see it as a big deal. The brakes work well and that's all that counts. If your brakes aren't stopping well, than I'd suspect you might still have air in the lines.

@georgepascual9173

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman thank you so much for this input I’ll keep that in mind! I thought at first there is something wrong

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgepascual9173 No problem George.

Great video! I have now an idea of what to do. What size and types of rotor would you recommend for this? Thank you!

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Clarissa, please read the video description. I have a lot of helpful information in there including what year Tundra and model to use when ordering parts for this modification.

@clarissaigdanes1387

7 жыл бұрын

What is the part number of the upgraded rotor?

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

I don't have a part number because there's different ways you can do this modification. First, you can choose between using 199mm calipers or 231mm calipers. Once you have made that choice, then you have to choose to buy either OEM rotors and calipers from Toyota or you can choose to buy aftermarket rotors and calipers and there's many to choose from. Please read the video description for more information on how to search for the parts for this modification.

Great video, I am going to upgrade my brakes with the 199mm calipers. do you have the part number for the pads for that size??

@TimmyTheToolman

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jake, glad you like the video. For the pads, just use a 2001 Tundra 4x4 V-8 for your search. This was what somebody suggested on a forum that did a lot of research into this mod. I can't 100% vouch though that his research was perfect.

I did the Tundra brake upgrade on my 2000 4Runner with no problems thanks to your video. I have read a lot of posts on the various 4Runner/Toyota forums about the soft pedal/long travel brake pedal after doing the Tundra upgrade (and also with the stock brakes). I also have felt the stock brakes had a relatively soft pedal/long travel and this has persisted post upgrade. Assuming the normal issues (no air in lines, rear brakes adjusted correctly, MC and power brake booster not leaking etc.) have been dealt with the consensus seems to be to replace the MC and brake booster w ones from a circa 1995 1 ton T100 so you can get an OEM 1 1/16 inch bore MC. What are your thoughts on this and if you do think changing to a MC with a bigger bore would help which one(s) would you recommend? All of the posts on this subject are almost 10 years old and I wonder what the current thinking is on this issue. As always, your thoughts are greatly appreciated and thank you for responding to all of the comments.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

with everything we have seen via forum posts & the soft brake peddle, I think having a larger master cylinder bore will help with stopping power if you're experiencing long stopping times but I am not convinced it will solve peddle distance... people have reported a stiffer peddle. It's hard to compare everyones experience because there really isn't a control between all of our vehicles except the fact that it is a 3rd gen 4runner. like you stated, there can be many factors to a soft brake peddle & most would agree there is either air in the lines (sometimes bleeding many times helps with the soft peddle) or the master cylinder is showing signs of its age. when we did the TBU on pour personal rigs we did not experience the brake peddle issues some people report so we had no needs to upgrade anything or troubleshoot but general consensus is getting a larger bore master cylinder.

@mrs1557

4 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman Update. Upon inspection of the rear brakes I found I had about the width of a credit of brake lining left so I replaced the brakes, drums and other hardware (springs etc.). Afterwards I was surprised when my pedal was even softer so I figured moving the drum brake cylinders when I installed the shoes may have dislodged some air in the system. I bled the crap out of the brakes (front & rear) for the third time and my pedal now seems to be pretty much where I want it to be and I now feel no need to do anything else to my brakes. It's only been 400 miles since I had it at the dealer and they said the rear brakes did not need replacing. So I'm thankful that I inspected the rear brakes when trying to solve the soft pedal issue. For all you DIYer's out their with a soft pedal post TBU I would bled the brakes multiple times and definitely check the rear brakes for proper adjustment and I think barring any other issues you will be happy with the pedal feel. I know I am. Thanks again Tim for the video.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrs1557 Good to hear you got your brakes dialed in.

I was going to do this as I tow a 2000lb trailer thru Eisenhower tunnel but after realizing that taking Overdrive off it saves my brakes and slows me down. never had any brake issues either but I have the 02 4runner with the larger capicity resevoir if that even matters.

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, taking overdrive off is the basically the first downshift you can do to slow yourself down and next is shifting into second as long as you're not going too fast. If you really want to crawl down a hill, you can even use 1st. Many people who have automatic transmissions don't understand they can downshift them just like a manual transmission. It's called "Engine Braking" and it works really well. Is this TBU necessary, especially if you know how to utilize engine braking? No, absolutely not. Is it a nice upgrade for your rig? Sure, I think so. If haven't done it to my 3rd Gen but my buddy Sean swears by it saying we would get the "Death Shake" when braking. He got his brakes done because of the Death Shake and shortly after he had the same problem because he regularly drives steep grades. Since doing the TBU, he hasn't had any braking issues. I replaced the rotors and pads on my rig shortly after I bought it because I was also getting the shaking while braking. I still get a little shaking here and there but it's much better than it was before. Will I do this modification one day on my rig? Maybe, if I can get a good deal on a set of rims because my rims won't fit over the 231mm calipers. Thanks for the comment!

Timmy the two-man do you know if this Opry it will work with the 2005 Toyota Tacoma I do some towing with my Tacoma and would like to have more breaking power The tundra break upgrade you did on the forerunner seems like a good idea not sure if he'll work on the 2005 Toyota Tacoma

@TimmyTheToolman

7 жыл бұрын

From another subscriber, Ryan Teegarden, the upgrade will work for 1st Gen Tacomas 1995.5 to 2004 if you install a wheelers brake line upgrade kit. I don't know if it will also work for 2nd Gen Tacomas. I suggest you go on the Tacoma World forum and pose this question there. Hopefully somebody on there could give you some accurate information and other ideas for brake upgrades if this Tundra one won't work for your 2nd Gen Tacoma.

thanks for the video, I'm not clear if adding 17'' 2018 4runner stock wheels 199 or 231's without a spacer ?

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

The 199mm calipers should clear without a spacer but I don't know if the 231's will clear.

The NAPA caliper is the way to go (if you can't find OEM at a junkyard that is or just don't want to, yes NAPA will take the 4Runners back in for core refund), its nicely coated, after 4 years, mine looks brand new still. Also no warping at all like the stock ones. One of the best upgrades for the 3rd gens.

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your suggestion Ian.

Thanks

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Tim.

Timmy thanks for the great video, I just have a question. My 01 4runner is not 4x4 so will the specs your talking about still work for me? I checked the website out and it is pretty much all 4x4 trucks.

@TimmyTheToolman

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it will work.

@BeginnerGardenerZ8B

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for the quick response, I look forward to seeing the rest of your videos.

Awesome, Don't have tundras in Oz any chance of a brake replacement video of stock brakes and maybe brake calibre rebuild 🤙🤙

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

Replacing disk brake pads is pretty straight forward but it is a little weird we haven't made a video of this yet. But, I'm sure you can easily find a KZread video that documents it very well. If you know how to replace disk brake pads on one vehicle, you'll know how to do it on any vehicle. As for a brake caliper rebuild video, there's a guy who's made a good video. He's actually rebuilding a set of Tundra calipers in this video. Here's a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6OFzqOQZKe2nqQ.html

@lukeneave

5 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman the way Youse explain things is unbeatable

@TimmyTheToolman

5 жыл бұрын

@@lukeneave Thanks Luke. I try to explain things as clearly as possible in layman terms so people watching don't get confused. We really should film a disk brake pad replacement video. It's such a common job people need. One of these days I'm going to visit the Land of Oz.

@lukeneave

5 жыл бұрын

@@TimmyTheToolman definitely is confronting the first time for sure, highly recommend Oz for 4x4 Toyota's everywhere

I found the warping to be due to the low carbon content in the steel of the rotors used by most aftermarket manufacturers. I replaced the rotors with high carbon steel units and it took care of the issue. I can't remember which store had the high carbon units, but I am sure it was one of the big chain auto parts store such as Auto Zone, Pep Boys, O'Reilly's, or Napa. It would be interesting to know if this upgrade improved the stopping distance over the stock setup. Does anyone know?

@TimmyTheToolman

6 жыл бұрын

Adam Aguilar I sort of doubt anyone did an actual experiment comparing the stopping distance with the OEM set-up and Tundra Upgrade set-up but everyone I've talked to who's done this upgrade has reported improved braking.