What are your thoughts around this new model? Edit: My overall opinion about the 39mm is it’s beautiful. For all the criticism I give this model line (mainly to do with its change of course compared to the earlier models) I mention at many points how stunning the piece is. It’s obvious. Looking at it again a day later, it’s mind-blowing to think that we’re now seeing a 39mm Pelagos (how will the BB58 survive in the future with a proposition like this?) At its core I believe the Pelagos has always been about professionalism and not flashiness. It’s a watch that deserves to be larger in size, burly and experimental. I feel that the process of removing things has turned this new model line into another addition to the catalogue instead of something that stands out (meshing the lines between the casual Black Bay and the hardcore diver)

@harkonen1000000

Жыл бұрын

IMO, it would have to have polished surfaces to be properly flashy. This way it's really just a good daily wearer, and I don't think there's anything really wrong with it being one. Something in the middle between Black Bay and fully hardcore is what I like about it. I will grant the point that a fully graduated bezel would be better.

@SinnMaster

Жыл бұрын

Professional what? Divers? I don't think any pro divers are using these and from what I understand the MN divers have the option of buying and FXD, it is not even issued equipment. Real divers are using dive computers, so all Tudor watches are fashion pieces (like almost all watches now really) and this one is aimed squarely at the female market.

@lucore18

Жыл бұрын

It’s the spirit of the Pelagos design that is the issue. The idea it is designed around being a tool. Even if we are not going to go 500m deep, why kill the aspiration. The same argument can be made about the Omega Proplof. Not everything needs to be mainstream. Part of the attraction of the Pelagos was that it moved Tudor away from the more flashy direction of the modern Submariner. If the Pelagos line moves too far from its original ethos, it risks to get lost amongst the other divers. Instead of staying in the original formula, what would stop them from extending the line to a two-tone or solid gold Pelagos? You could apply exactly the same narrative of the new Tudor Pelagos promo to either of those variants. And that’s the point where the new variant loses something. It’s still an elegant design though, and if people are rushing to buy it and that is the direction Tudor want for the Pelagos line, then more power and sales dollars for them…

@Nefville

Жыл бұрын

I don't know how to say this without it coming across in a negative way and I certainly don't intend that, but is it possible you don't like this watch because it came after your FXD? If I had bought an FXD and had to compromise with only pass-thru's and with no bracelet, I would be genuinely upset. Not that the FXD isn't amazing on its own.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

@@Nefville Such a great question Nef and I know it might sound like I’m embittered by the whole ordeal, but not at all. I got my 39mm diver with flashy bits and a micro-adjusting clasp (Seamaster 57) years before and wanted a more toolish machine to pair with it (ying and yang). And bracelets on watches, 90% of my watches are always living on straps. It’s hard to put into words how thoroughly the FXD has been thought through. I think with me, I really enjoy the subtitles of things - like how the insert was done, how the bezel teeth are beefier, how to text on the dial was placed, the colour of blue used... I could go on 😆 But thank you for asking brother! 🥃

Sounded like a 9min video of buyer's remorse. They gave us EVERYTHING we wanted. Smaller case, no date, red line text...and yet people will still find a reason to complain. Btw this watch isn't for me, my wrists need a larger size case, but I can still appreciate the appeal and need for the masses. Bravo Tudor

This is easily the most perfect diver out there for me. Perfect dimensions, bang-on bracelet adjustability, no date, etc. it would make sense to rebrand the 42mm the “Pelagos Professional”. The Pelagos 39 will be my next dive watch down the road. With respect, I think you’re over-analyzing this one, IDGuy.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I could easily be Chi-town 😆 I think it's that flashiness of the bezel and dial that did it for me in the end (and the red text). I hope you manage to grab one soon (before the hoards!) 🥃

@joedimaggio3146

Жыл бұрын

@Will Harris Chill Will

@steelsteez6118

Жыл бұрын

And the 39 mm should be named "the pelagos casual", at least according to your logic 😉

@steelsteez6118

Жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the pelagos business and the pelagos urban

@Thomas-vq5pb

Жыл бұрын

How often have I read about new dive watches: - shame it’s too large (42 mm) - shame it’s so thick - shame the date window unbalances the dial - shame it’s too shiny The 39mm Pelagos addresses all these points perfectly. Let’s see how popular it will be, and if it suffers from a lack of “je ne sais quoi”.

It’s not polarizing at all. It’s nearly perfect.

An awesome release from Tudor they actually listened and gave the people what they want . A versatile and aesthetically pleasing and functional timepiece . Great business model

Tudor is in the business of selling watches and the fact that this will sell like hotcakes is the most important pushback to your crits. This time, I think you're being too harsh. Call it Pelly Light if you like, but it opens the door of Pelagos ownership to people who loved the image but found the 42mm version too much watch to wear. Let's be honest, how many "Real Pelagos Owners" have taken their 42mm down even 20 metres underwater?

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Very true Mark. In the end it just kinda bugs me that the lines are now blurred between the models and their respective fields. The Black bays, Rangers and now new Pelagos feel "samey" BUT maybe that's a good thing to keep it all under the same roof 🥃

@markikn3183

Жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy Our modern world, sir.😁 And your FXD is likely still the better piece, but that's another story. Watching out for on-wrist reviews. KBO.

@KeepingWatchUK

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this 👍🏻

@cecaju9516

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100%.

@MiguelRodriguez-up1rt

Жыл бұрын

Agree, I like the Pelagos but I don’t like the 42mm, so I purchased the BB58. The new size is perfect for me. Also, you still have the option to buy a Pelagos with all the great specs you are looking in a diver watch. This new Pelagos is an addition to the family, not a replacement.

I love it, especially the red lettering without a date. It is the chef's kiss! My favorite Pelagos was the FXD, but now it is the 39. This is the Tudor Sub for 2022. Should be a runaway best seller.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Even after all my crits, this is easily in the Top 10 of best watch releases this year. It is stellar 🥃

@uncle_igor

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree. Just because another brand has a red lettering with a date doesn't mean everyone should copy it.

A very smart move by Tudor, making a more compact, thinner version of the great Pelagos that will appeal to a wider audience of watch fans. Having the outstanding in-house COSC movement, essentially from the Tudor BB58, but curious why the MC5400 previously used on exhibition case back models like the 925. Offering a titanium bracelet with the T-Fit clasp and a complimentary rubber strap is a big plus. If they add alternative dial colours to the range this may well give the Omega SM300 Diver a proper run for its money as a more tool-like alternative.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Excellently said Andy and I agree, my main gripe (looking back at this now) is the "flashiness' but seeing this model in other colours will be unreal! 🥃

The new clasp looks incredibly smart to me. One of the things I like most about my 42mm Pelagos ETA is the interaction of the indexes and angled chapter ring. I get that a smaller diameter means they had to do away with this, but for me, this watch has slightly less character.

@RabidMortal1

Жыл бұрын

That stepped chapter ring MADE the Pelagos IMO. This new watch is like the OG Pelagos' younger brother, trying to break free of the older brother's shadow but having no sense of what makes their family special. I agree with IDguy that this new Pelagos will sell, but for me, Tudor is still very much a hit-or-miss kind of watch brand

The 39 Pelagos will be the Tudor “Sub” of their “Sea Dweller” (the 42mm Pelagos). Some of the language is lost because they started with the bigger model. Yes, a bit boring, but a home run in my view. No date is better for the dial’s symmetry and rarely needed in a dive watch. I agree they should have started with this one, but better late than never. I think it’s the go-to watch for anyone thinking the new Rolex Sub or other dive watches too large. I get the “Pro” feel of the 42mm, but show me a Pelagos that used “once” its helium escape valve 😜. Thanks for the video!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

You're a great guy to get an opinion on this (since you have the modern / vintage collection basically 😉) Thank you for sharing Thomas. I think at the end of it all I wanted more of a "spark" somewhere instead of a "greatest hits" album. BUT that's just me associating Tudor with "fun-professionalism" 😆🥃

@omarion07

Жыл бұрын

Since when was a 41mm diameter (on paper) and 12.4 mm diver too large? What do you call the 45.5 mm and 17 mm thick PlanetOcean then?

@Sandouras

Жыл бұрын

Nobody who can own a Sub will get the Tudor because of size. Most Sub owners just want to show they made it anyway and have no idea about watches.

@MJagger89

Жыл бұрын

Yup - exactly!

@mrgee007

Жыл бұрын

Show me a dive watch that's gone deeper than a bath tub! 🤣

This piece is going to be one of the best sellers for Tudor. It's going to give the BB58, which is a great watch to begin with, a run for its money

Was waiting for your video on this! Wooooo!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I hope it doesn't disappoint (much) 😆

sometimes simplicity actually works, this 'stripped-down' version of Pelagos feels like a baby-step up BB58, and I am absolutely love it. if they make it in stainless steel and no sunburst anything, it will sit right next to my 925 asap.

Owner of a recently purchased FXD here, previous owner of a classic Pelagos (ETA version bought in 2013 - sold in 2015), with a long history with vintage Tudor's (94010, 79090). I wouldn't trade my FXD for the 39mm Pelagos, for the same reasons you mentioned, but I find it fantastic nonetheless. And I am strongly considering getting one for my wife, to complement her blue dial Black Bay 36 for her sporting activities (swimming, sailing, hiking). I am surprised people do not see the filiation between this model and the mid-sized (36mm) Tudor Submariners or Mini-Sub's from the 80's and 90's. It's completely in the same spirit. If anything at all, Tudor are very consistent with their history.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Great mention about the mini-subs (totally slipped my mind) Y'know what has stood out to me on the 39mm, they've removed the framing around the plots for full ceramic plots instead and if you compare the FXD (or other models) with the square markers (1,2,4,5 etc) They look decidedly smaller. Maybe that's what threw me off on the dial? It was missing "something" and it could be the framing that was bugging me 😆

@johnnyguitar6697

Жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy Finicky little hobby, isn't it? In other news, I just got a Bonetto Cinturini Zuludiver rubber NATO from Watch Gecko today, and I am happy to report it suits the FXD extremely well. They had the good idea to spring load all the keepers, which allows to turn it into a one layer strap, minimizing the height on the wrist. It is also far more pliable than the OEM rubber strap, meaning it doesn't stick out of the lugs like the OEM does. You should check it out.

It is excellent. Looks great, does hit every mark, amazing value. It works, it is just another extra Pelagos and is desirable. I don't think they have made any mistake releasing this. No date needed. I also prefer my FXD, but the T-Fit does appeal, I liked it on the BB Pro, pity that was too heavy / unbalanced.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Very nicely said Stu and I agree, the value prop, proportions, bracelet all makes for such a compelling piece. I just hope the flashy bezel and pretty bland layout doesn't bug too many people. The FXD has the "X" factor 😉

@mikescott4008

Жыл бұрын

I too wasn't overly impressed with the BB Pro, such a slab of a watch. As soon as I saw one in the flesh I declined.

@stu632

Жыл бұрын

@@mikescott4008 I didn't mind the thickness, somehow it looked okay, but after wearing it for 2 days it was constantly on my mind and not in a good way, so had to sell it. I think it was how it was balanced.

@brandonl6626

Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you said. I also have the FXD and wouldn't trade it for the new 39...but I still want this new one.

Tudor is clearly listening to us. As an owner and daily wearer of the BB58, I do find it very elegant, with its case size, rose gold accents. It’s almost delicate in its design. I suppose, since I work in an office style environment but I also jump in our pool with my daughter right after work it really is the perfect daily wearer. That being said, I take my BB58 on all-day fly fishing trips where I’m casting, getting wet, banging it on rocks… etc and have found myself wanting something less shiny (glare is an enemy in fly fishing) and so started looking at the Omega 300M Bond (the titanium one). I also wanted something slightly less flashy when we travel overseas. Now that I see the 39mm Pelagos on rubber, it would serve as my real tool watch while my BB58 is now my “nicer” watch (even though it’s cheaper!).

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this Oogie. Brilliantly put (and there's no doubt at all that this watch is going to blow so many minds) Still can't actually believe that we're getting a 39mm Pelagos 🥃

@AcmeRocket

9 ай бұрын

You will definitely catch more fish with the Pelagos. 😂😂

@Superdada

9 ай бұрын

@@AcmeRocket my excuse for not catching more is my bb58 😆

Have had the blue Pelagos for 5 years now, I am on the waiting list for this one. stunning piece

@maxp5422

Жыл бұрын

Waiting list hopefully just because it's new

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

You will not be disappointed.

This watch literally addressed ALL issues that held me back buying the Pelagos so far.

I think it's basically perfect. Only thing I would change is to make the bezel and dial matte instead of sunburst/brushed but that's really being picky. This is basically a modern Tudor Sub and honestly something I would consider saving for.

I’ve been hoping Tudor would revive the submariner line (crown-guards design circa 1960’s-1990’s) for a while now. Now you have your choice of aesthetic with Tudor- vintage or modern. If Tudor wants to continue to conquer the world, 1) make these reasonably easy to get at retail; 2) put the t-fit clasp on all models.

I swear to God, your thumbnail render is EXACTLY what Tudor should have made. IDGuy, you are ON IT!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

All Black, full bezel grads and a red date paired with the dial and MATTE. Ah, heavenly... That would kill the diver space dead 🥃

I just acquired a pro a few weeks ago and thought I was all set with my Tudors in the collection. Now I need to start saving for this release. Absolutely love it.The bigger size was the only thing holding me back from the previous versions. I have a feeling this going to be hard to get for a long time, so should help me on the saving money front. Great video and thoughts on this as usual! Really enjoy your videos.

@WestCoastAce27

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you. Wearing my Pro non-stop since I picked it up - now want this as my weekender. 🤞 my name moves up fast enough to get it in Nov/Dec.

My biggest gripe and you mentioned it, was the lack of matte dial and bezel, it's a pelagos, and every other pelagos has these matte features, why would they depart from that?

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I have no idea why they'd get rid of the matte surfaces (that's the whole reason why I chased the Pelagos) Literally zero reflectivity off the case, bezel and dial and it's viewable everywhere. I think it was to add something dynamic to the watch overall... all things considered it was probably the best idea (instead of just another black dial, black bezel) 🥃

@williamcoolidge9884

Жыл бұрын

The lack of a matte dial is why I will buy this Pelagos. If you want a matte dial 39mm Tudor diver get the BB58.

I don’t agree with your criticisms it is an absolute banger. If you want a professional watch get the Pelagos 42 or FXD.

I think it looks like a great watch, definitely top of my buy list. I think the thing that’s “missing” is the fact it’s got mass appeal because there’s nothing quirky or annoying about it!

Everyone wanted the modern day snowflake or submariner and this it is .I always wanted a pelagos buts it’s to big for my 7 inch wrist but this 39mm is perfect for me. Granted some of the tools that made the pelagos so good have been lost buts it’s so much more wearable. Great vid by the way 👌🏻

I think this is about as close to a Tudor submariner as they are willing to go. I’m on the waitlist but I have to see it on my wrist before deciding to buy. Chances are likely I’ll be underwhelmed and just stick to my Submariner and dive computer! Best regards

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly. A Tudor Sub it is, and BTW you will not be disappointed. Im staring t it right now and it is putting a huge smile on my face.

Another YT channel said that the larger Pelagos was never too popular - too big, too thick for most people. I never wanted other Tudor watches as I always thought they were too vanilla. But this watch looks perfect and this is the first Tudor that I want.

It’s more a titanium black bay than a Pelagos. As you said, the Pelagos is Tudor’s Sea Dweller, Planet Ocean, it’s muddied the water. What they have done however, is listened to the thousands of woman that wanted a smaller Pelagos, or the man with ladies wrists.

I don't really agree with your opinion BUT I'm more than happy that you give us your honest opinion with your own thoughts!! So continue like that!!!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Marc I really appreciate that. It's definitely not what people want to hear (but this was my gut reaction) And everything said... what a beautiful watch, holy smokes its hot 🔥

A no date red Sub for 3500 quid I’m all for that and a perfect travel watch for myself personally. Called the AD already apparently there is a “waitlist”.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

There are going to be hoards of people going after these (for good reason). Heaven help the waitlist... it's going to get hairy 😆🥃

The satin sunburst ceramic bezel has a similar shine/shimmer you get on Rolex’s only more subtle. I think parked next to the sub this looks more interesting, more sporty less dressy. I really do like!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing this out Dopey. I think that flashiness is what has turned me off most about the new model 😆 Pedantic? Absolutely.

I, for one, am very pleased with this new 39mm Pelagos. The only thing I will complain about is the loss of date. What's the point of being edgy and experimental if nobody buys the watch? This new model hits all the sweet spots. Now, we just need that blue! 💙

Hi ID Guy. Have a great week. Love your videos

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Always first, always a legend John. Thank you as always sir. Have a superb week! 🥃

I agree with everything you said, but I think you're wrong. This release represents an expansion of the Pelagos line, not a replacement. I think there will always be a hardcore, tool driven, 500m, experimental Pelagos in conjunction with this more everyday line. It is now up to the consumer which world their Pelagos plays in. Another banger vid, cheers.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

It will be absolutely amazing if they keep that "experimentation" going with the Pelagos line over time instead of phasing out the pure tool nature that I believe these have always had about them. It's super interesting though and thank you for sharing this James ( I hope I didn't disappoint too much 😆🥃)

@jimhim585

Жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy You prob have the most interesting and thoughtful watch channel on YT. I love the critical thought + hypothetical renders based on your ID background. I'm sure a lot of people in the industry watch your vids when they are home.

@frosty4peter

Жыл бұрын

Nothing beats the original Pelagos! Which still is the real deal. Next to the Rolex Deepsea it's a real man's watch. This is just another silly BB or Sub wannabee! But offcourse the girly wristsize guys will certainly love it ;)

Great assessment! I think you nailed it!

I'll wait for a blue or green version of this baby.

Great review as always! I always base my decisions off of your input.

It’s wierd how much we agree on things. It’s a lovely watch… which is exactly the issue!!! You’re bang on in that this is too “nice” a watch to retain any of the character of the line. On its own standards, the 39mm is great - beautifully made, filled with awesome tech at a great price with mass-appeal and will sell hugely. Problem is… the Pelagos line offered something truly different. Something decidedly “unmass-appealing” (not a word I know 😂) As I offered in our exchange in your (also bang on) Ranger critique, the Pelagos line and the Heritage Chronos are really for me the only pieces in modern Tudor that have any real interest and personality… everything else is a Rolex homage as a variant of the Bland Bay. This is a massive win for Tudor. The death of what we’ve known to be the Pelagos. Thank god for Breitling and IWC. 😇😉

I was due to pick up an FXD but this has changed my mind! Love the LHD but couldn’t get over the thickness when I tried it on. 39mm is my ideal size.

I think it's brutality handsome! What it trades for professionality it gains in rugged good looks. Love the no date! Tudor is leading the watch industry at this point....

Last pic uff! The LHD red date wheel would have made this a piece perfection imo. Hopefully it’s in the works. Interesting take and great vid once again!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

That red roulette date window is so classy and unique... imagine that corresponding with the text? Ugh... we can dream 🥃

I think you're bang on, agreed with pretty much all your points. The design language here isn't entirely cohesive. I think that fans who have been waiting for a Pelagos in BB58 dimensions are so excited about it finally existing, that they overlook these non-cohesive elements because they are enamoured and almost blinded to the downsides of this VERY hyped new Tudor. What many consider a preferable smaller diameter and thinner case height don't mask the loss of that true, concentrated Pelagos essence. This watch is basically like a slightly watered down Pelagos. It's is the blended whisky to its older sibling's single malt.

You might be overthinking this release. It’s THE Tudor Submariner and the 42 Pelagos models are still in the catalog. BTW, your content is really impressive.

ALL the watches in the Pelagos line look great. There’s literally something for everyone now. And this one, with its unique rubber/titanium endlink strap offers a nice bonus. And if you want the original you can still buy it.

I wouldn't mind having the fully graduated bezel from the FXD on this one, but I think they've done a fairly good job here. They still have the square lume plots and those are essential. I don't think any watch should have snowflake hands without square lume plots. This combination makes sense and gives the watch purpose. And with the new size and sticking to titanium, it's pretty much a killer combo. The red writing.... maybe it's wrong, but it looks good. Also, Omega uses it on it's latest brown no-date Bond Seamaster, so why not on a Tudor?

It's going to sell 50:1 against the standard Pelagos, and will pull additional folks away from even the BB58 who don't want a "vintage feeling" watch. While this one isn't for me, they should have gone with a brushed ceramic bezel, not titanium. I'm not sure how well that'll hold up over the years to scratches. Good size for the vast majority of wearers out there.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

It's a great question about what's going to happen to the BB58 after a launch like this... how the hell could it compete with such a stunning all-rounder?? 😆

@etamarshamoil2739

Жыл бұрын

The bezel is brushed ceramic. Not titanium.

Love the fact that it's non-date. For me, though, 39mm is a wee bit too small for a dive watch.

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

I owned the P42 now the P39 and it is not 39 it is a 40mm at the bezel. It fits just like a Rolex sub 40mm.

Interesting take. Nice video.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Jim 🥃

I found Tudor advertising for this watch to be very confused. Notwithstanding the odd marketing, I love this watch and will be purchasing at the earliest opportunity!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I really scratched my head at those opening lines 😆 Man, this piece is going to be a banger, no doubt 🥃

Great insight and analysis as always! I think this Pelagos 39 is simply stunning! It “fixes” the things I personally don’t like about the Black Bay 58, namely the gilt hands and indeces and the clash of snowflake hands with round indeces. I fully accept I’m very much in the minority by not loving the regular Black Bay 58 but the heart wants what it wants (or doesn’t want in this case 😂). It is essentially the reissue of the Tudor Submariner in all but the titanium case and bracelet and the size surely means it will fly off AD shelves. You do raise a great point in how this watch being part of the Pelagos line is actually quite confusing. As you pointed out, the Pelagos was the professional diver range and the Black Bay represents the more vintage or dressy/desk diver end of the catalogue. Now the Pelagos is a large fully capable, HEV loaded, titanium cased dive watch, a civilian issue version of a watch designed for and with the Marine Nationale and now this 39mm variant which is, as you said shares more in common with the Black Bay line than the Pelagos. It’s similar to what happened to how I internally categorised the Black Bay Pro once Tudor announced the return of the Ranger. Surely the BB Pro would make more sense (at least in comparison to Rolex and the Explorer II it so resembles) if it was the Ranger Pro or Ranger II as opposed to being part of the Black Bay range 🤷‍♂️ Either way, I really want one! 😂

You make such a good point. The Pelagos has always been the quirky Professional Dive Watch. I've owned my Blue Pelagos 42mm since 2015 and it is still my go to watch. This new 39er doesn't meet the standards of the past. Like you I really like this new 39mm but no Ballerina would "Dare to Wear (TM)" my 42mm. I guess now they have their chance at 39mm. Great, off the cuff video. Makes a lot of sense to me but I'm a long time Pelly owner and still in love with it.

Never bothered giving Tudor a chance until this new Pelagos 39 came out. Probably the only Tudor watch I will ever consider getting

They knocked this one out of the park mate, best pelagos to date

As a BB58 owner I never considered the Pelagos, mainly because of its thickness. This new release on other hand, made me very interested in the line and i might be getting one. The large date models are still available for people that don’t like it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

When I initially saw the relase, I was thrilled. When I took a 2nd detailed look, I realized it wasnt the real tool the initial pelagos is, and that was the main reason I wanted to buy it, and I would have if my wrists were just a bit bigger.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

It's a strange thing. I have this connection with the Pelagos as always being that port in the storm, never wavering, always "out there", experimental, different and build as a tool. I get mad that my tool watch is getting flashy 😆

@prowler13prowler

Жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy I loved the utilitarian and professional aspect of it, matte finish, great lume, excellent clasp, He escape valve, blue color...in many ways unconpromising tool watch in a sea of jewelery watches. In that aspect only a few Sinn's were similar, but in a very German way. Pelagos vs U1 ( well, U50 for my wrists ;) ) was the choice.

@joedimaggio3146

Жыл бұрын

@@prowler13prowler I think you're overthinking it

@prowler13prowler

Жыл бұрын

@@joedimaggio3146 maybe, probbably...but this hobby does that to a person sometimes :D

@joedimaggio3146

Жыл бұрын

@@prowler13prowler very true!

Last month I was on a flight from Singapore to Melbourne. I was returning from Greece and I was wearing my Oris Aquis and I struck up a conversation with a fellow passenger who showed me his black Tudor Pelagos. We were then joined by a male airline steward who showed us his Rolex Pepsi GMT and it turned out to be an excellent flight. The following weekend I visited the local Tudor AD in Melbourne to see if I could get my hands on a Pelagos LHD for myself. When I arrived they had just put the new 39mm Ranger on display and I was blown away by its no nonsense black dial. I purchased the Ranger instead with the intention of returning again when the AD could source me a Pelagos LHD. This has turned out to be an excellent decision as I will now be buying the 39mm Pelagos.

@antonytapiero1168

2 ай бұрын

😅😂😢

With all due respect, if you want a 42mm professional diver with a helium escape valve, get a Seamaster. It might be a little weird to turn a professional watch into a sleek everyday watch, but I think this is the ultimate desk diver. There's space for this, the other Pelagos varieties, and the various Black Bays in the Tudor collection.

@atl3630

Жыл бұрын

Good point. As nice as the Pelagos is, it doesn’t compare well to the 300 or PO

Owned the 2 liner pelagos years ago. I really liked that watch but sold it because I couldn't get used to the size. I remember praying for Tudor to release the same thing but sized down. It seems like the DNA has totally changed. I agree 100% with the points you've made. Unfortunately it seems like this is the perspective of a smaller group enthusiasts of the Pelagos line. Props Tudor who they've managed to lure in the masses who see differently. I'll continue to enjoy my BB58 and give this one a pass.

Nice content. Nice video mate. 🥃

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you as always Tim! Hope you're having a great week sir! 🥃

I think you're right to a point. Lets not underestimate the infuence of the Seiko SPB143, it has really impressed with the dark grey dial and bezel insert and I think that Tudor has seen the popularity of this with elements from the original Pelagos and have run with it. I absolutely adore this, but to make it perfect, i'd have it with a date complication and 300m of water resistance. Also, am I right in saying that this replaces the original Pelagos? I think it should complement the 42 mm version. Good review.

Brilliant, honest, and well thought out take on this new watch. It is not as professional as the original, or the FXD. It is definitely more at home on the beaches of Saint-Tropez than diving off a rig in the North Sea. But it has a place and I love it. Especially in these times of over inflated and at times, over rated Rolex’s (value for money) - I never thought I would be saying that 🤣. I think the design has hit a sweet spot. Most of us will never dive beyond 40m, it is attainable, great value, you can wear it anywhere, it still has a tool watch vibe, and I have ordered one 😁 I hope you are well and congratulations on another stunning video 👏🙏🥃

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Mark. I hope it didn't come across like I was bashing the snot out of this piece 😆 It is beautiful... and spare a thought for the poor BB58 and how it'll never be able to compete with a piece like this hahaha! I hope you nab yours before the mania well and truly kicks in (and I'd love to know about it when it arrives) - hell, it's amazing that we're finally all getting Pelagos' on our wrists 😉 Much love sir and hope you've had a great week so far! 🥃

@Mark..P

Жыл бұрын

@@ID-Guy 🙏🥃

A comment completely unrelated to watches - you're the most dutch looking englishman I've ever seen

I think its an amazing looking watch and perfect for myself - I just want one quality watch to do it all!!! I doubt 99% of people who buy these watches would ever go diving over 200m anyway, so I think its a great option by Tudor. Divers can still get the 600m verison if they so wish. I love that they give you two straps to dress up or down.

Love it, never thought I'd willingly end up on a waitlist for a Tudor. For me, it bridges a gap between the BB58 and the 42mm Pelagos that prevented me from actually wanting to own either. With the BB58 I can't get over the faux rivets and lack of adjustable clasp. I prefer the dial of the Pelagos (because I feel square and rectangular indices are more cohesive with "snowflake" hands) and I like its adjustable clasp, but I couldn't get over the size and especially the thickness.

@JLUnit416

Жыл бұрын

Addendum: it's funny how circular the logic of us watch addicts can be. I was on board with the smaller Pelagos, but a few key things happened which made me feel a bit more lukewarm since first posting this: 1. In my impatience, I bought a used Seamaster 2. The Black Bay 54 was announced 3. I actually tried on a full sized Pelagos at my local AD when inquiring about the BB54 and Pelagos 39 Now, I'm beginning to appreciate the "purity" of the full sized Pelagos and am beginning to see the 39mm as too much of a compromise.

I've had mine for about a week and I LOVE it. Despite the bad marketing, it's most special quality is that it's super focused. It oozes quality and capability, but is also understated and subtle. Makes my fancier Rolex pieces look almost like jewelry for playing dress up, ,whereas this is what you'd wear for real life adventures.

I wondered whether you had regrets having bought the fxd, but that question has been answered now. I ‘d prefer a larger size for this Pelagos. 41mm. It has lost its tooly character as well. 200m wr is standard. I expect the fxd to be discontinued soon, next year maybe. Great content of this vid. Red date window it is!

When it comes to dimensions, this watch is small. When you're looking at a watch with a bezel your eyes usually focus on the dial. That is the reason why diving watches that are 40-42mm wear great even on smaller wrists. Black dials also appear smaller. Diving watches have to be a bit chunky for robustness and higher depth rating. It's actually the cool part in buying a diving watch. This watch really looks great but in the end it's not so special. The 42mm PELAGOS (it's actually a bit over 41mm) has much better specs but yet it's only 300 EUR above the 39mm. This actually means that the 39 mm is overpriced. If TUDOR decides to make a 42mm pelagos without a date window and less text on the dial everyone is going to forget about the 39.

I agree with your primary assertion that Tudor has watered down the tool aspects of the Pelagos line. That said I think 42mm case size may have put many off, me included. I love the intensity of the blue dial contrasted with the stark white indices and hands, gorgeous. Its just big. I think this one is, as you might have said, a run at the Sub. My crystal ball tells me we will probably see a 39mm blue dial in the very near future.

Oh snap! Fascinating perspective, and I think I concur.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the popular opinion on this one 😆

A brilliant design with a few forgotten features, but again, perfect doesn't exist in the watch world. I appreciate your commentary and agree with most of things stated, but how many wrist really need a professional pelagos...I'd still love one, but this new release is a welcomed piece. Cheers.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this Craig. A gorgeous machine that lacks something (that I can't put my finger on) 😆

I would have loved to have seen an iteration of the step dial incorporated into the 39mm.

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

The dial face is to small it would look odd.I think they did the right thing, but I agree with you the step dial is a winner.

I love it, and would be receiving mine soon from my AD.

For me, this watch essentially ticks all the right boxes for what I’m looking for. I got very close to buying a BB58 but when I tried one on in person it felt more like a fashion accessory than a genuine tool. While I love the original Pelagos and its professional grade capabilities, it’s too large for my taste and rather chunky on my 6.25” wrist. The smaller proportions are a much welcomed change and although I may not need the 500m water resistance or helium escape valve, 200m is plenty and the G2 titanium will be perfect for the corrosive chemicals I handle at work. I don’t personally take issue with the decreased specs and despite the marketing on Tudor’s part this will still be a very capable watch nonetheless.

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

To me the BB58 is a homage, is a soft elegant classic diver but this pelagos is a total Tudor-Sub.

I have a BB58 and more recently an FXD, tried the 39 Pelagos on this week, decided to take it and will pick up next week, BTW did you have an issue with the original Velcro strap loosing its “stickiness” ? What strap do you have on your FXD? Enjoying your review even if I don’t totally agree 😊

Yeah I did feel that something is missing with the new Pelagos

I just picked one up, I keep forgetting it’s on it is so well done lololol I have smaller wrists, it’s a total home run for me :)

I much prefer the original Pelagos but, I think that this new version will appeal to many people like the Black Bay 58 did. This new Pelagos has the Snowflake dial that the Black Bays have been crying out for. Whether aimed at the ‘Casual Wearer’ or the ‘Worker’ I think that this new version will prove very popular with many who cannot obtain a Submariner. It is a simple daily wearer like you said. How many professional divers still use a Watch alongside their Dive Computer? This new Pelagos could definitely fit the bill for a cheaper budget than a Submariner. Great off the cuff video here Boet. Can’t wait to see the Vintage Chronograph video you’re going to do. ✊

I’m just glad the big watch companies now know that smaller watches are fit better.

Great video, I like it. If you think about it there is never a perfect watch. No matter what the brand or the price there would always be something you would change after wearing a watch for a few months. As a everyday work tool watch and a watch you could wear surfing or up the mountains this new Pelagos ticks a lot of boxes, and being titanium it would be almost unbreakable. Very much liking the other channel 👍

I have a different opinion, this watch is just perfection. We need to give credit to Tudor that they have finally released a very balanced watch; the Pelagos we have been asking for many years. It will become a classic in the years to come. I have the Pelagos LHD and I love it as a technical tool. This is the all round version (same approach from Rolex for the SeaDweller and the Submariner no date). Be sure that Tudor will release a version with the date, a version with the blue dial and on an on in the next years. I will buy this one for sure.

100% with you! I like the new word you invented. Fits right in for this new model. That being said. If Tudor wants to avoid being known mostly for the Black Bay line. This is the right way to do it, IMO. Reminds me of AP's Royal Oak. Who wants a one- trick pony?

When are we getting a 44mm LHD no date Pelagos with 2k WR? 😁

Definitely safe but after seeing it in person, it is great. I believe what sets it apart is also the sunburst dial. It really looks different under the light and even the bezel glistens a bit under the light. I can also appreciate that the bezel is a bit wider than the case as it is roughly 39.8 mm….for someone with a 7.25” wrist, it doesn’t wear too small, especially compared to the Black Bay 58 with it’s much narrower bezel. I agree that I am also not a fan of the marketing but this watch will be a hit. Keep up the great work!

I know a guy who used to own a red sub before he traded it for a vintage Daytona as well as a vintage gmt master (it was a two for one deal) because of this first hand experience, I agree. It's a good start, but it needs a date.

Your criticisms are all valid. However, how many of us take our Pelagos diving? At what point should watch buyers spending thousands of dollars consider wearability and versatility? This watch is something that will actually be worn on the wrist as opposed to collecting dust in a collectors watchbox.

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Great point here J, at the end of it all, the watch on the wrist is all that matters and with a size like this it'll be getting all the wear time 🥃

Thank god I don't own the earlier Pelagoses! Now I will finally get one.

@russellseah2347

Жыл бұрын

When the Sub is all shiny n glossy on bezel and dial , no one complaints.

I think it’s ignoring the fact that the current Pelagos is also very divisive. Many people dislike the thickness, the silly amount of text on the dial and the bracelet design. I had one and sold it pretty quickly and it’s a watch I’ve commonly sold sitting for sale

Got excited thinking it was being sold with the fully graduated minutes bezel like the FXD.

💯 agree with you. We’ve lost the tool in the Pelagos

Have got to say if your render was in a 41mm /42mm it would be absolutely awesome 👌

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

A 41mm or true 40mm would have added a nice USP compared to the usual BB58 sizes that they're going for. Ah well, Tudor always smashes the proportions of the Pelagos. The 42mm FXD is so nicely balanced, it's quite unreal 🥃

Thanks for the analysis - I agree with the general line of the comments ... the Pelagos is a chunky tool watch. Scaling it down takes away from that. I was just hoping for a green or burgundy iteration.

@NeoWahNah

Жыл бұрын

It was a chunky tool watch. 😀

It's missing the Pelagos blue dial and bezel.

Beautiful watch in a great size. I'm hoping the mad rush to buy them will make it easier for me to buy an FXD at a reasonable price.

no doubt is nice and no doubt Tudor is on fire the last years. Most of us will never be 100% happy with anything less than a perfect watch and a perfect watch does not exist, no matter what people say. There is nothing perfect at least at watches. Some pieces are very beautiful ones, designed by people and they tell the time. Now this Pelagos 39, is indeed an amazing release. Simple indeed and that is why I like it more than the old generation. The less is more sometimes. Mainly: The BB Pro and this one, have changed Tudor already. Just check both of them: they are (other than one being chubby - which does not bother me at all..) are simple. No shinny bling blang and luxurious. Just nice design and function. For me at least it works and hits all boxes compared to Breitling and Rolex (or even Omega..).

The best review to date of an important new watch from Tudor. I am a great fan of Tudor watches with a GMT and BB Black but I won’t be on the wait list for this watch. 39mm is too small for me, I tried the BB58 against the larger BBs. I am waiting for a Pelagos FXD and a Panda Chrono perhaps this new launch might speed up my wait. I agree with some of the early comments, it will be a very popular watch with different additions to come.

Would a Pelagos FXD 39 make sense as a future release?

"Black Bayified" is indeed a word, and I couldn't agree more. I really like this watch, and they're gonna sell a ton of them, but it's just not for me. For me personally, any watch under 40mm in titanium just feels too insubstantial in presence and weight. 39mm is a great size, but I'd go for a regular BB58 over this for those reasons. If I ever got a Pelagos, it would have to be the regular 42 or the FXD. The Pelagos is, and should be, a TOOL watch, and this new release is definitely not that. As per usual, I agree with you completely LOL. Great video!

@ID-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Floyd. It's a real pedantic opinion of mine BUT my beloved tool watch, the last bastion of utility-driven-professionalism is now flashy (grumble grumble) 😆

As I'm sure others are saying, I think this will be the no-date Sub for those who can't afford, or can't get (at retail) the Sub.

Good morning Mr Guy, I don't think that Tudor has "Black Bayified" it so much as "Rolexed" it. It's moved away from the hard core tool watch design to the luxury tool watch design, rather like the Sub has done. It's immensely capable but has more of a luxury character. The advertising suggests that it will be marketed as a unisex watch... I like it, but it won't be replacing my Black Bay 58. Thanks for another thought provoking video. 😀

@gito4130

Жыл бұрын

I agree Robert, it is a completely different watch than the BB58. Measurements, color, material, clasp, bracelet, font, indices, weight, bezel, and crystal. The watch looks nothing like a BB58, a complete opposite. One is a dated homage of the 58 and the other one a new experiment with contemporary Tudor-Sub vibes. I'm starring at it right now as it sits on my wrist.

@robertlock6041

Жыл бұрын

@@gito4130 Ah, so you pulled the trigger! You're clearly delighted with it, which is as it should be: it's a fine piece. For me, I would love to have one, but can't justify the expense with the 58 sitting there. Congratulations on your purchase. I hope you didn't have to wait too long... Happy New Year Gito 🎉 🙂