Which of these two 27mm f/2.8 lens would you buy for your Fuji camera?

@50shadesofNV

Жыл бұрын

The TTartisans is on the way, yay

@brianode11

Жыл бұрын

TTartisan for my XT1.

@valdiskrebs566

Жыл бұрын

@@brianode11 Me too.

@mr.b4444

Жыл бұрын

I have the original Fuji 27mm 2.8 and paid $299 for a like new copy. It stays on my camera. I'm very picky about sharpness so I think I would still go with the Fuji if I had to buy one today.

@claudio_salvalaio

Жыл бұрын

TTartisans for sure... it will be my next lens, thanxs to you!!!

This is an excellent, comprehensive review, THANK YOU so much for taking the time & effort ! It's helped me enormously understand the characteristics of this lens, and in particular how it compares to the Fuji equivalent, when it comes to bokeh, minimum focus distance quality and field curvature. Thanks again, Paul.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

hey Paul, glad it was helpful! and thanks for watching :)

@uilifecteau4841

Жыл бұрын

We’ll done Richard, such an in-depth comparison. Go kiwi!

One of the best reviews of these lenses I've seen, my TT arrives today, can't wait to use it this weekend! Cheers to you Richard, you got a subscribe and thumbs up from me! Great work!!!!

@TheRealRichardWong

11 ай бұрын

Thank you Michael!

Thanks Richard. I have just bought the TTArtisans version as a 2022 Christmas present to myself. So far I love it. Great aftersales service from TTArtisans too, as they responded to an email from me asking for help within a couple of hours with the full solution to my problem.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

That's awesome Sorry about the late reply. It is a wonderful lens especially if you consider the price Enjoy!

Excellent and super comprehensive comparison video! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank so much! 🙌🏽🙏🏽

@TheRealRichardWong

11 ай бұрын

Thanks Emily!

Another great and very detailed review Richard! Every time I think of a lens to buy or try, you've already reviewed it!

@TheRealRichardWong

9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Pav! I was at TTArtisan's HQ in Shenzhen yesterday!

@PavSZ

9 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong NICE! I'm not jealous at all

When you said the cats eye would be either a deal-breaker or a deal-maker, I think that’s correct. The somewhat swirling bokeh is the reason I ordered this. In general, I suspect TTArtisans won’t really be able to compete with Fuji or other OEM lenses across an entire lens lineup in terms of sharpness and specs. Where they could compete is in terms of optical character. My dream is that they come out with a 40mm f/2 with a biotar design, to lean into the kind of swirl that a Zeiss Jena or Helios 44 would provide, but with the convenience and usability of modern AF and aperture control. Vintage character with autofocus lenses might be a great niche for a company like TTA.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

yes, some people hate the cats eye, but some would love it for it's character! Let's see if TTArtisan read your comment and maybe it'll give them some idea what to create next :)

@andersdenkend

Жыл бұрын

Yes, yes, yes! I am thinking the same. If they try to compete just with price, they might have a difficult time convincing some people. I'd love for them to make a Helios like "artsy" lens. I'd buy that in a heartbeat. 😂

wow.... Really good review... Love how you specifically focus on the corners... Some reviewers dont do this and they mistake shallowed DOF off focus vs corner sharpness.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Keith!

Good work. Finally someone making informative comparison in different aspects, instead of selling the TT artisian lens..

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Anty! My goal is always to create balanced review for my users to make informative decision on what products to buy. ( or not buy)

Thank you for the review Richard.

That’s a great review of both lenses. I’m considering one of these lenses and after watching this video, I think it’s going to be the ttartisans lens. I don’t mind a bit of vignetting and quite like the sun stars. Thanks

Excellent comparison, thank you!

Excellent, straightforward and rounded comparison, Richard. Thank you 👍

@TheRealRichardWong

9 күн бұрын

Glad you like it John

Great comparison Richard! In the first few clips testing sharpness, the brightness and color rendition appeared to be quite different between the two lenses - can you talk a bit about that? Is the TTArtisan 1/3 stop or so darker? The internal focus mechanism (vs. Fuji’s external) could also be a pretty considerable difference, at least for anybody thinking of adding an anamorphic adapter for example (so the focusing motor doesn’t have to push and pull the extra weight) and theoretically for better sealing, even though the Fuji is WR rated and the TT isn’t.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

hey Jordan, thanks for watching! For brightness, since i took those photos outdoor and there was around 10-20 minutes from the first to last photo shot, the brighness might have changed a bit so i can't say for sure if it's the ambient lighting changed or the lens itself. Re colours, there is some small but noticeable difference as you can see in most photos.

Thank you for a very informative video!

Nice work as always Richard. Watching a lot of these on my TV these days, so not always leaving a comment.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Campbell!

Thank you for this excellent review, the only one we need ! 👍

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard!

Excellent review and well explained. Thank you.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I really like the TTArtisan. For me the difference between them aren’t worth the price difference. If the Fuji was $300 or under I might have considered it but the fact the TTArtisan is only $150 is what sold me. I was very surprised to see that it’s actually an excellent lens with a lot of character and probably worth a lot more than the asking price. I did get the 2022 upgraded version. One of the things I really like is that it has a USB port in the rear cap which makes it easy to upgrade and doesn’t leave an eyesore on the lens by having the port on the lens itself. I think if money is no object the Fuji lens is probably better but if you are on a budget you aren’t really compromising by using the TTArtisan and it’s a very good lens in its own right.

Given that Fuji management seem intent on under supplying the market and driving users away from their products, I'd pay the extra for the Fujinon if I could find one, but after 3 years it's still sold out literally everywhere, so it's not a hard decision because it's not Fujinon vs TTArtisans, it's TT vs no lens.

@robertordonez9242

Ай бұрын

It’s on Amazon for $350

@juzzydee

Ай бұрын

@@robertordonez9242not on any sellers that ship to Australia it isn’t :(

@juzzydee

Ай бұрын

@@robertordonez9242closest was Japan but the shipping gave like a 2 month window.

@robertordonez9242

Ай бұрын

@@juzzydee ah I see. It’s a 4-6 week window here. Assuming it doesn’t get canceled.

I really appreciate the way you discussed the bokeh, specifically not calling one or the other ‘good’ or ‘bad’. Bokeh is a completely subjective thing, and what one person likes, another may dislike, as another comment by theBitterFig illustrates.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

thanks Andy! Yes bokeh is really subjective. Some people may like creamy, super smooth bokeh but some may find it boring

GREAT VIDEO of the shootout between the FUJI & TT ARTISAN 27mm!. I have a FUJI 27MM and I love it. The 27mm is a great little power house of a lens...

thanks for the review. i bought one for my x-t10. now i have a cheap combo, with great image quality, that i can carry everywhere.

@TheRealRichardWong

10 ай бұрын

glad to hear you enjoy it with your x-t10!!

I hope they can make the 18mm F2 as well!

@CaioHungria

Жыл бұрын

A touch sharper with a better AF would be perfection.

@naufalazizferbi4296

Жыл бұрын

Fuji need a fast 40mm+ equiv .. I would rather vote for a 28mm F1.8 or F2 (to keep the lens small of course). But yeah, a cheaper and faster AF 18mm F2 would be perfect as well ~

@dasIDS

Ай бұрын

@@naufalazizferbi4296 25-27mm f2 in the size not bigger than 18mm f2 WR and snappy AF would be a banger!

I am currently considering adding a Fujifilm body to my cameras and just last night I found myself wondering about the TTArtisan. Today I found your channel and watched this EXCELLENT review. Thank-you!!

@TheRealRichardWong

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching Gary

@garysmith7545

4 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong I'm torn between picking up an existing/used Fuji body or waiting to see what the suggested mfg retail is going to be on the X100vi.

@TheRealRichardWong

4 ай бұрын

@@garysmith7545 lots of people are waiting for that! A lot of hype, I am very curious too

@garysmith7545

4 ай бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong I already have several "good" cameras (OM-1, a7Riii) as well as a couple of film cameras and several more mFT bodies. My thought on the X100vi would be a dedicated "fun" camera that I didn't have to think about a lens but with enough MP to allow cropping. >>OR

This was a great video. Thank you!

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!!

Nice comparison video!

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrei!

Really nice work. Congrats. I'm on a low budget, so... TTartisans will works very well for me. Thanxs a lot!!!

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Have fun with the TTArtisan!

Great review, thank you!

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you so much for this video!!

@TheRealRichardWong

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

I wonder if they'll bring this one to other mounts. I'd love to have something that small with both a manual aperture ring and autofocus for Sony.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

maybe! Will have to wait and see

Really nice lens comparison. Thank you. I already own the TTArtisan 27mm, and like it. I lost my lens hood (or it was missing from the box). I'm in the process of trying to locate one.

@TheRealRichardWong

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! From memory there isn't a lens hood comes with the lens.

Very helpful thank you

Kia ora Richard, thank you. Helps me make up my mind on these two lenses

@TheRealRichardWong

7 ай бұрын

Thank you Ray!

How about the older 27mm f2.8 (non WR)? Which one is better?

For the price it's a great little lens. On my XT5 this setup is so small and light, I look forward to take it everywhere with me. I stopped taking my old Canon DSLR when travelling due to size & weight.

@frizzy.j

9 ай бұрын

i just grabbed the fuji xf 27mm f2.8 WR and added it to my brand new x-t5 so we're twinning! How do you like it so far?

@sirdon1232

9 ай бұрын

@@frizzy.j the Fuji version is slightly better but at a 1/3 of the price you can't beat the TTArtisan. Sometimes its the only lens I take with me. Makes my XT5 feel like a compact. Very pleased with it and good results.

@frizzy.j

9 ай бұрын

@@sirdon1232 i just got the lens for $270, so I can’t complain! Do you have any social medias where you post photos? I’d love to see!

@TheAdimel

6 ай бұрын

Can I see the sooc from xt5 with this tt artisan lens

nice review, Which country are you located? Which lens do you recommend?

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

I'm based in New Zealand! Which lens really depends on what you are after/most important to you

I don't have the cats eye but the out of focus is so busy and flat. Fuji is more controlled thus pleasing to the eye.

The flare is a deal breaker for me. Hopefully they make a mark 2 in future to fix it with better glass/coatings.

I've been using the ttartisan on my XE2 for nearly 6 months, and I like a lot how portable my street set up has become, mostly shoot between f5. 6 and f8 so cat eye shaped bokeh is not an issue for me buuut vignetting has started to be consoderably annoying, I mean sometimes it adds certain "character" To the images but i would rather add it in post only when necessary, I regularly shoot the streets at night and the vignette makes everithing look too dark at night , so I'm thinking about buying the fuji, other than that the tt artisan has been really fun to use and has become the permanent lens on that camera.

exactly what i was looking for lol. thx

Nice video, but i think the Ttartisan looks sharper .

I just got the TTArtisans 27mm two weeks ago... Its an amazing lens and the price is incredible for what it does.. One of the best 3rd party lenses ive ever purchased. I highly recommend

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you like the lens

@meiqi4794

Жыл бұрын

Is the lens good for portrait shoots??

@gabequezada2066

Жыл бұрын

@@meiqi4794 Id say 55mm to 85mm is perfect for portraits to be honest and not 27mm

Is there any type of limbs filter you can use to help with the flaring?

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean lens filter? No not really. Lens hood is the best for avoiding lens flare but if you have a light source visible in the frame there isn't much you can do

I don’t think the difference is too much to buy the Fuji over the tt if on a budget. Plus 27mm isn’t my favorite focal length anyway but want something compact for my xe4. Sadly I left my 18 f2.8 in the states. But I have the 18 1.4. I just miss a pancake lens on my xe4 😭

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Pancake is nice! Affordable pancake is double nice!

The Fuji 27mm F 2.8 is on the list of lenses that can take advantage of the 40 megapixel X-Trans 5 HR sensor. Can TTArtisans compete at that level for X-T5 or X-H2 users?

@cradilyz

Жыл бұрын

i saw elsewhere that someone said that ttartisan said yes on social media,

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

The TTartisan's sharpness is quite similar to the fuji. So if Fuji said their 27mm f/2.8 is suitable for the XT5, the TTArtisan should be pretty much the same

@fredschmidt8609

Жыл бұрын

It could be verified by pixel peeping. It is a significant quality to verify for X-Trans 5 HR users who plan on the ability to crop without losing resolution. Many highly respected Fujifilm lenses cannot take advantage of the extra megapixels like the 16mm f1.4 and the 35mm F1.4.

As always a very nice video. Often I can see that the lenses outperforms the photographers

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much @Ulf Jönsson :)

“The explanation gave perfect details abiut the lens..."

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

This lens has a defect, sometimes the rear element is not straight and it prevents any AF / MF. Happened to me and many others on Amazon. To fix it you just have to pull on the rear element a bit and it will go back to normal

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

hey Don Dan, oh I'm not aware of that and my sample is ok), but thanks for sharing this info and how to fix it, it would be useful to other users

@richardhale9664

Жыл бұрын

My copy arrived yesterday. It would not focus on my X-E3. I tried it on my X-T20 and it worked first time. I tried it on my X-T1 and again it worked first time. Tried it back on my X-E3 and it worked. Strange.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Weird. Maybe something wasn't clicking properly? Or loosen during skiipping? But glad to hear it's working fine now?

Please TTartisans make a 23mm f2 pancake? Fuji doesn’t seem interested so the market is yours!

hi, I got this lens for XT30-II but when I put this on my cam, and try to take images it doesn't do anything and the cam doesn't take photos. I think I have to make some setting changes, can anyone help, i. am new to this cam n lense as well

@TheRealRichardWong

4 ай бұрын

Check the connector is clean? Does changing the aperture shows the updated aperture value on your camera? And see if you can update the firmware?

I recently bought the TT Artisan and it seems really good for my purposes so far. My only minor criticism is that USB lens base. Firstly the updates don’t work with any Mac based system. A little annoying if you don’t have a Windows PC handy. Secondly, it adds some bulk on the lens. This little lens is so small that it’s easy to fit in your pocket but the base makes it a little more difficult to carry. A regular Fuji base cap fits on to it but doesn’t lock in place so you really need to carry a spare if you plan to go out with a 2 lens solution. Very minor issues of course, but slightly irritating at times :(

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Good useful feedback

I used your affiliate link for Amazon’s big days!

@TheRealRichardWong

8 ай бұрын

oh thank you so much Jon!

On the newer Fuji Cameras (XT5 or XH2s) the autofocus speed is faster on the TTartisan lens as on the fuji lens.

Good review

@TheRealRichardWong

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Si hay mucha diferencia, y es antipolvo y lluvia. Y eso es tener muchos años la lente. Pago más por ello, sin dudarlo .

Is this lens compatible with the Nikon D5100? A referred me to this lens.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

No it's doesn't it's for Fujifilm only

@cmmbsnyder55

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong An adapter might make it doable. 🤔

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

No it doesn't. Mirrorless camera has shorter flange distance so you cannot adapt a mirrorless lens to DSLR unless you don't need to focus infinity

@cmmbsnyder55

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong Thanks. I just ordered a 35mm Nikon DX lens so I think that will suffice. Thanks for your tips and suggestions.

I like the Fujifilm 27mm but frankly I think it is overpriced for what it is. I have a few questions about the TT Artisans lens. Firstly does the in camera lens corrections correct for vignetting on this lens or is just limited to Fuji lenses? Secondly would a larger third party lens hood help with the flaring problem? Thank you for your review.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Hi Neil, lens profile correction works with the TTartisan lens as well

why one test image looks brighter - was exposure different? you can't present such results to a viewer as valid.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

thanks for the constructive feedback

FYI the firmware can only be updated using Windows. If you use macOS it becomes unusable

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Liam

@LiamPhotoATL

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealRichardWong absolutely the good thing is if you redo the update to the firmware using a Windows machine, it will make the lens usable again

What is the camera in the thumbnail?

@TheRealRichardWong

3 ай бұрын

XT3

I own the TTA 27/2.8, it's subject isolation & bokeh @F2.8 is better, than the Fujinon XF 27/2.8, plus it does add some vintage vibes, in terms of rendering. If you want much better IQ - just get the manual focus Voigtländer Ultron 27/F2 - between them, i can't seriously recommand the Fujifilm for such a high price (439-449 EUR into germany), it's really less good, than the 23mm F2, into contrast. For that high price, even with WR and aperture ring, i'd put a bit money aside, and really get the Ultron, which is the much better lens - into contrast. But if you need a small, pancake-esque AF lens, the TTA is all the way to go ! (I shoot Fujifilm since the original X100) (edit) Be sure - if you own or want to buy the TTArtisans 27/2.8 AF - update to the latest v1.1.1 Firmware (Fujifilm X mount) which is avialable at their homepage. You can use the provided USB dock (rear lens cap with USB-C port to update the firmware via your PC) At the time of writing, this TTA 27/2.8 XF AF goes for ~125 EUR via Aliexpress, i paid really more into 2023 !

Good review! Thanks 🤙 TTA will be a great budget choice for enthusiasts but Fuji is only sensible choice for pros 🎬

Ttartisan please make a 18mm f/2 😩😩😩😩

Fuji 27mm is great but in darker situation, you'll need to focus manually. Focus peaking with this lens is very inaccurate.

The fairest review of the TTartisans yet compared to the Fuji. My copy arrived yesterday and optically in real world use I see precious little difference between it and my original XF 27mm. AF seems about the same if a bit quieter, though it would not work at first on my X-E3. It worked perfectly on my X-T20 and X-T1 and when I put it back on the X-E3 it worked perfectly. Go figure that one! The aperture ring is a welcome addition over the original XF model and on the X-T1 I prefer the slightly larger form factor of the TTArtisans over the XF. I could not care less about WR as it is going to be on my non WR bodies most of the time. Honestly given the price difference between the WR Fuji and the TTartisans, I can't see why most people would not be happy with the latter model.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Richard. Your issue is quite weird but glad it's all working fine now.

the TTartisan got an unacceptable vignetting and bokeh shape and progression for my taste. also don't enjoy the design, I'm very picky when thinking of putting a 3rd party lens on a Fuji body. But hey, where I live it is sold for less than half the price than the fuji 27mm R WR, being on a budget and wanting a light street photography kit you can think of this and match it with maybe a second hand x-e2/3 ot x-t20/30 and that'd be good and cheap.

@empirechen

4 ай бұрын

The firmware update fixed the vignetting

@chdezmtz

3 ай бұрын

​@@empirechenreally? I have been thinking of buying the Fuji just to get rid of that issue, I'll definitely try the new firmware before replacing my ttartisan

@lechewga

2 ай бұрын

@@empirechenhow do you update the firmware?

@TheRealRichardWong

2 ай бұрын

Use the provided rear cap which is a USB dock. Connect it to your computer

@jenythingunderthesun

Ай бұрын

⁠@@chdezmtzno it didn’t. You need to apply the fix in an editing software

zapatistas in new zeland!!! very good!

There is exactly one advantage of the TTartisan: It's cheaper.

just imagine 18mm 1.4 TT artisan

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

That would be cool!

fuji lens is way better, twice the price.

I'm actually surprised, the price difference is greater than the quality difference. I was going to chuck 900bucks in the fuji one, but I might go for the 200bucks TT artisan one, especially since I'll invest in better glass at the 35mm range! Anyway thanks for the review!

@SVNLVN

Жыл бұрын

The Fujifilm lens is $400, not $900

@JonathanAdami

Жыл бұрын

@@SVNLVN let me guess, you're american? unaware of other countries or even other currencies?

@SVNLVN

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanAdami no... I'm Singaporean, but I'm using the USD because that's what the price of most products are based on. If you convert the fujifilm's to your currency ($400 to 900), the Artisian's price is gonna be $360 in your currency. Perhaps learn basic currency conversion before you assume I'm someone who doesn't know what I'm talking about? LOL

@JonathanAdami

Жыл бұрын

@@SVNLVN get real mate, you're correcting me ignoring you could be wrong hence my "assumption" which is more an observation. Currency isn't maths, Import taxes, different markets, in Australia we import from HK, JP, CN and so on... when I commented, I had both in an ebay cart, TTartisan A$239, Fuji A$854, do with that what you want ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@SVNLVN

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanAdami you do know that Fujifilm has local stores in Australia right? You can easily find XF 27s going for under $600 in a bunch of places. If you want to import something from JPN or HK etc, it's just a bad move, because you're not gonna get a local warranty and you're paying way more for import taxes. It's not even a question.

The vignetting on the TTartisan looks terrible!

@toddm6999

10 ай бұрын

I like vignetting and I choke on Fujifilm 27mm price

Fuji all day.. unless that 3rd party can make firmware fixes.. i doubt it will sell much

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

This TTArtisan lens can update firmware and comes with a USB update dock. TTArtisan has provided a few. firmware updates already as well.

Frustrating. Please make real lenses again. Real lenses, not image warpers + correction software crap. Thanks for showing the bad optical compromise to make them tiny.

@TheRealRichardWong

Жыл бұрын

Most of TTArtisan's lenses don't support/rely on any profile correction :)

Dude put lotion for your hands!

Please stop testing cheap lenses on expensive cameras. Test on an XT100 or XT200 instead which is what the target group uses.

@TheRebelBagel

Жыл бұрын

I mean there’s no real proof on that. Also all of their other lines of bodies out sell the XTxxx. I’ve owned the GFX50R and have my XT5 on the way yet I’m still looking at this ttartisan lens.

@KingofStreet3

Жыл бұрын

Me thinking on owning the TTartisans 27mm on my XT5 for quick pocket portability fun. And not my heavier Sony A7iii with a 35m

@TastyPrism

3 ай бұрын

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